Windows XP Pro extremely slow (2-4 minutes) shutting down - Startu [Archive]

JWHData

December 2nd 07, 04:43 PM

I have very recently installed a new hard drive and re-installed Windows XP
Pro from scratch. Even after installing all of the Windows updates it takes
2-4 minutes to shut down and after shutting down the computer is slow to
re-boot. This is a new PC with an AMD Athlon 64x2 5200+ proccessor and 4gig
memory. The PC is set up as Triple boot with each operating system (Vista
Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Pro, and Windows 2000) on seperate drives. The
other 2 operating system don't have any issues. After searching this issue on
the internet I have (1) disabled the ClearPageFileAtShutdown option, (2)
Stoped NVIDIA Driver services, and (3)Installed the Windows UPHClean
application. The problem is still there. All suggestions welcomed.

DL

December 2nd 07, 04:45 PM

All win updates? these included drivers?

"JWHData" > wrote in message
...
>I have very recently installed a new hard drive and re-installed Windows XP
> Pro from scratch. Even after installing all of the Windows updates it
> takes
> 2-4 minutes to shut down and after shutting down the computer is slow to
> re-boot. This is a new PC with an AMD Athlon 64x2 5200+ proccessor and
> 4gig
> memory. The PC is set up as Triple boot with each operating system (Vista
> Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Pro, and Windows 2000) on seperate drives. The
> other 2 operating system don't have any issues. After searching this issue
> on
> the internet I have (1) disabled the ClearPageFileAtShutdown option, (2)
> Stoped NVIDIA Driver services, and (3)Installed the Windows UPHClean
> application. The problem is still there. All suggestions welcomed.

JWHData

December 2nd 07, 04:53 PM

NO - I typically don't install Driver updates specially NVIDIA updates as I
have been "bitten" in the past.

"DL" wrote:

> All win updates? these included drivers?
>
> "JWHData" > wrote in message
> ...
> >I have very recently installed a new hard drive and re-installed Windows XP
> > Pro from scratch. Even after installing all of the Windows updates it
> > takes
> > 2-4 minutes to shut down and after shutting down the computer is slow to
> > re-boot. This is a new PC with an AMD Athlon 64x2 5200+ proccessor and
> > 4gig
> > memory. The PC is set up as Triple boot with each operating system (Vista
> > Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Pro, and Windows 2000) on seperate drives. The
> > other 2 operating system don't have any issues. After searching this issue
> > on
> > the internet I have (1) disabled the ClearPageFileAtShutdown option, (2)
> > Stoped NVIDIA Driver services, and (3)Installed the Windows UPHClean
> > application. The problem is still there. All suggestions welcomed.
>
>
>

JWHData

December 2nd 07, 05:05 PM

Just to clarify- I have installed all of the leatest drivers from the
Motherboard producers (ASUS) site. Also when I say "Slow to re-boot" I am
referring to the time between startup and the Boot menu appearing.

"JWHData" wrote:

> NO - I typically don't install Driver updates specially NVIDIA updates as I
> have been "bitten" in the past.
>
> "DL" wrote:
>
> > All win updates? these included drivers?
> >
> > "JWHData" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >I have very recently installed a new hard drive and re-installed Windows XP
> > > Pro from scratch. Even after installing all of the Windows updates it
> > > takes
> > > 2-4 minutes to shut down and after shutting down the computer is slow to
> > > re-boot. This is a new PC with an AMD Athlon 64x2 5200+ proccessor and
> > > 4gig
> > > memory. The PC is set up as Triple boot with each operating system (Vista
> > > Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Pro, and Windows 2000) on seperate drives. The
> > > other 2 operating system don't have any issues. After searching this issue
> > > on
> > > the internet I have (1) disabled the ClearPageFileAtShutdown option, (2)
> > > Stoped NVIDIA Driver services, and (3)Installed the Windows UPHClean
> > > application. The problem is still there. All suggestions welcomed.
> >
> >
> >

Gerry

December 2nd 07, 05:19 PM

http://aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.htm

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JWHData wrote:
> Just to clarify- I have installed all of the leatest drivers from the
> Motherboard producers (ASUS) site. Also when I say "Slow to re-boot"
> I am referring to the time between startup and the Boot menu
> appearing.
>
> "JWHData" wrote:
>
>> NO - I typically don't install Driver updates specially NVIDIA
>> updates as I have been "bitten" in the past.
>>
>> "DL" wrote:
>>
>>> All win updates? these included drivers?
>>>
>>> "JWHData" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I have very recently installed a new hard drive and re-installed
>>>> Windows XP Pro from scratch. Even after installing all of the
>>>> Windows updates it takes
>>>> 2-4 minutes to shut down and after shutting down the computer is
>>>> slow to re-boot. This is a new PC with an AMD Athlon 64x2 5200+
>>>> proccessor and 4gig
>>>> memory. The PC is set up as Triple boot with each operating system
>>>> (Vista Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Pro, and Windows 2000) on
>>>> seperate drives. The other 2 operating system don't have any
>>>> issues. After searching this issue on
>>>> the internet I have (1) disabled the ClearPageFileAtShutdown
>>>> option, (2) Stoped NVIDIA Driver services, and (3)Installed the
>>>> Windows UPHClean application. The problem is still there. All
>>>> suggestions welcomed.

JWHData

December 2nd 07, 06:41 PM

Thanks Gerry - Interesting reading, however no change in behavor

"Gerry" wrote:

> http://aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.htm
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> JWHData wrote:
> > Just to clarify- I have installed all of the leatest drivers from the
> > Motherboard producers (ASUS) site. Also when I say "Slow to re-boot"
> > I am referring to the time between startup and the Boot menu
> > appearing.
> >
> > "JWHData" wrote:
> >
> >> NO - I typically don't install Driver updates specially NVIDIA
> >> updates as I have been "bitten" in the past.
> >>
> >> "DL" wrote:
> >>
> >>> All win updates? these included drivers?
> >>>
> >>> "JWHData" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> I have very recently installed a new hard drive and re-installed
> >>>> Windows XP Pro from scratch. Even after installing all of the
> >>>> Windows updates it takes
> >>>> 2-4 minutes to shut down and after shutting down the computer is
> >>>> slow to re-boot. This is a new PC with an AMD Athlon 64x2 5200+
> >>>> proccessor and 4gig
> >>>> memory. The PC is set up as Triple boot with each operating system
> >>>> (Vista Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Pro, and Windows 2000) on
> >>>> seperate drives. The other 2 operating system don't have any
> >>>> issues. After searching this issue on
> >>>> the internet I have (1) disabled the ClearPageFileAtShutdown
> >>>> option, (2) Stoped NVIDIA Driver services, and (3)Installed the
> >>>> Windows UPHClean application. The problem is still there. All
> >>>> suggestions welcomed.
>
>
>

Gerry

December 2nd 07, 07:39 PM

Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and
click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
Folder and post a copy.

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

You could look at the Error and Warnings in the Application and System
logs in Event Viewer.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools,
Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information
regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427&Product=winxp

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event
Viewer. Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. This will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report
complete with links into the message. Make sure this is the first paste
after exiting from Event Viewer.

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JWHData wrote:
> Thanks Gerry - Interesting reading, however no change in behavor
>
> "Gerry" wrote:
>
>> http://aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.htm
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> JWHData wrote:
>>> Just to clarify- I have installed all of the leatest drivers from
>>> the Motherboard producers (ASUS) site. Also when I say "Slow to
>>> re-boot" I am referring to the time between startup and the Boot
>>> menu appearing.
>>>
>>> "JWHData" wrote:
>>>
>>>> NO - I typically don't install Driver updates specially NVIDIA
>>>> updates as I have been "bitten" in the past.
>>>>
>>>> "DL" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> All win updates? these included drivers?
>>>>>
>>>>> "JWHData" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> I have very recently installed a new hard drive and re-installed
>>>>>> Windows XP Pro from scratch. Even after installing all of the
>>>>>> Windows updates it takes
>>>>>> 2-4 minutes to shut down and after shutting down the computer is
>>>>>> slow to re-boot. This is a new PC with an AMD Athlon 64x2 5200+
>>>>>> proccessor and 4gig
>>>>>> memory. The PC is set up as Triple boot with each operating
>>>>>> system (Vista Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Pro, and Windows 2000)
>>>>>> on seperate drives. The other 2 operating system don't have any
>>>>>> issues. After searching this issue on
>>>>>> the internet I have (1) disabled the ClearPageFileAtShutdown
>>>>>> option, (2) Stoped NVIDIA Driver services, and (3)Installed the
>>>>>> Windows UPHClean application. The problem is still there. All
>>>>>> suggestions welcomed.

JWHData

December 2nd 07, 09:17 PM

No Errors or Warnings

Total: 282384
Limit: 5302820
Peak: 477136

Volume (C:)
Volume size = 38.28 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 9.47 GB
Free space = 28.82 GB
Percent free space = 75 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 2 %
File fragmentation = 4 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 37,993
Average file size = 317 KB
Total fragmented files = 1,022
Total excess fragments = 8,964
Average fragments per file = 1.23

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 2.00 GB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 2,681
Fragmented folders = 32
Excess folder fragments = 680

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 49 MB
MFT record count = 40,787
Percent MFT in use = 81 %
Total MFT fragments = 2

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
201 4 MB \Documents and Settings\John W Holt\Local
Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
187 1 KB \WINDOWS\system32\config\system.LOG
137 9 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP17\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
137 9 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP16\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
137 9 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP15\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
137 9 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP14\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
136 9 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP13\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
136 9 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP12\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
136 8 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP11\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
136 8 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP10\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
136 8 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP9\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
136 8 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP8\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
136 8 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP7\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
136 8 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP6\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
136 8 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP5\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
136 8 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP4\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
134 8 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP3\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
131 8 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP2\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
127 8 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP18\A0002470.dll
127 8 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP1\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
86 5 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP17\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
86 5 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP16\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
86 5 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP15\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
86 5 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP14\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
86 5 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP13\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
86 5 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP12\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
86 5 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP11\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
86 5 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP10\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
86 5 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP9\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.D ATA
86 5 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP8\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.D ATA

"Gerry" wrote:

> Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and
> click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
> Folder and post a copy.
>
> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
> Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?
>
> You could look at the Error and Warnings in the Application and System
> logs in Event Viewer.
>
> You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools,
> Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information
> regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important.
>
> HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427&Product=winxp
>
> A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
> click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
> button resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event
> Viewer. Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
> the message. This will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report
> complete with links into the message. Make sure this is the first paste
> after exiting from Event Viewer.
>
> --
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
>
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> JWHData wrote:
> > Thanks Gerry - Interesting reading, however no change in behavor
> >
> > "Gerry" wrote:
> >
> >> http://aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~
> >> FCA
> >> Stourport, England
> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> JWHData wrote:
> >>> Just to clarify- I have installed all of the leatest drivers from
> >>> the Motherboard producers (ASUS) site. Also when I say "Slow to
> >>> re-boot" I am referring to the time between startup and the Boot
> >>> menu appearing.
> >>>
> >>> "JWHData" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> NO - I typically don't install Driver updates specially NVIDIA
> >>>> updates as I have been "bitten" in the past.
> >>>>
> >>>> "DL" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> All win updates? these included drivers?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "JWHData" > wrote in message
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>>> I have very recently installed a new hard drive and re-installed
> >>>>>> Windows XP Pro from scratch. Even after installing all of the
> >>>>>> Windows updates it takes
> >>>>>> 2-4 minutes to shut down and after shutting down the computer is
> >>>>>> slow to re-boot. This is a new PC with an AMD Athlon 64x2 5200+
> >>>>>> proccessor and 4gig
> >>>>>> memory. The PC is set up as Triple boot with each operating
> >>>>>> system (Vista Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Pro, and Windows 2000)
> >>>>>> on seperate drives. The other 2 operating system don't have any
> >>>>>> issues. After searching this issue on
> >>>>>> the internet I have (1) disabled the ClearPageFileAtShutdown
> >>>>>> option, (2) Stoped NVIDIA Driver services, and (3)Installed the
> >>>>>> Windows UPHClean application. The problem is still there. All
> >>>>>> suggestions welcomed.
>
>
>

JWHData

December 2nd 07, 10:26 PM

UPDATE

After furthur checking it appears that the ShutDown problem is related to my
Canon CanoScan 4200F scanner. If I unplug the USB cable to the scanner
Windows XP Pro shuts down in less than 45 seconds.

"JWHData" wrote:

> No Errors or Warnings
>
> Total: 282384
> Limit: 5302820
> Peak: 477136
>
> Volume (C:)
> Volume size = 38.28 GB
> Cluster size = 4 KB
> Used space = 9.47 GB
> Free space = 28.82 GB
> Percent free space = 75 %
>
> Volume fragmentation
> Total fragmentation = 2 %
> File fragmentation = 4 %
> Free space fragmentation = 0 %
>
> File fragmentation
> Total files = 37,993
> Average file size = 317 KB
> Total fragmented files = 1,022
> Total excess fragments = 8,964
> Average fragments per file = 1.23
>
> Pagefile fragmentation
> Pagefile size = 2.00 GB
> Total fragments = 1
>
> Folder fragmentation
> Total folders = 2,681
> Fragmented folders = 32
> Excess folder fragments = 680
>
> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> Total MFT size = 49 MB
> MFT record count = 40,787
> Percent MFT in use = 81 %
> Total MFT fragments = 2
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
> 201 4 MB \Documents and Settings\John W Holt\Local
> Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
> 187 1 KB \WINDOWS\system32\config\system.LOG
> 137 9 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP17\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
> 137 9 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP16\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
> 137 9 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP15\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
> 137 9 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP14\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
> 136 9 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP13\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
> 136 9 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP12\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
> 136 8 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP11\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
> 136 8 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP10\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
> 136 8 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP9\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> 136 8 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP8\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> 136 8 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP7\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> 136 8 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP6\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> 136 8 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP5\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> 136 8 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP4\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> 134 8 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP3\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> 131 8 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP2\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> 127 8 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP18\A0002470.dll
> 127 8 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP1\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP17\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP16\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP15\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP14\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP13\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP12\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP11\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP10\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP9\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.D ATA
> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP8\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.D ATA
>
>
>
>
> "Gerry" wrote:
>
> > Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and
> > click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
> > Folder and post a copy.
> >
> > Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
> > Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?
> >
> > You could look at the Error and Warnings in the Application and System
> > logs in Event Viewer.
> >
> > You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools,
> > Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information
> > regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important.
> >
> > HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427&Product=winxp
> >
> > A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
> > click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
> > button resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event
> > Viewer. Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
> > the message. This will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report
> > complete with links into the message. Make sure this is the first paste
> > after exiting from Event Viewer.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Gerry
> > ~~~~
> > FCA
> > Stourport, England
> >
> > Enquire, plan and execute
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> > JWHData wrote:
> > > Thanks Gerry - Interesting reading, however no change in behavor
> > >
> > > "Gerry" wrote:
> > >
> > >> http://aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.htm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hope this helps.
> > >>
> > >> Gerry
> > >> ~~~~
> > >> FCA
> > >> Stourport, England
> > >> Enquire, plan and execute
> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >>
> > >> JWHData wrote:
> > >>> Just to clarify- I have installed all of the leatest drivers from
> > >>> the Motherboard producers (ASUS) site. Also when I say "Slow to
> > >>> re-boot" I am referring to the time between startup and the Boot
> > >>> menu appearing.
> > >>>
> > >>> "JWHData" wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> NO - I typically don't install Driver updates specially NVIDIA
> > >>>> updates as I have been "bitten" in the past.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> "DL" wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> All win updates? these included drivers?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> "JWHData" > wrote in message
> > >>>>> ...
> > >>>>>> I have very recently installed a new hard drive and re-installed
> > >>>>>> Windows XP Pro from scratch. Even after installing all of the
> > >>>>>> Windows updates it takes
> > >>>>>> 2-4 minutes to shut down and after shutting down the computer is
> > >>>>>> slow to re-boot. This is a new PC with an AMD Athlon 64x2 5200+
> > >>>>>> proccessor and 4gig
> > >>>>>> memory. The PC is set up as Triple boot with each operating
> > >>>>>> system (Vista Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Pro, and Windows 2000)
> > >>>>>> on seperate drives. The other 2 operating system don't have any
> > >>>>>> issues. After searching this issue on
> > >>>>>> the internet I have (1) disabled the ClearPageFileAtShutdown
> > >>>>>> option, (2) Stoped NVIDIA Driver services, and (3)Installed the
> > >>>>>> Windows UPHClean application. The problem is still there. All
> > >>>>>> suggestions welcomed.
> >
> >
> >

Gerry

December 2nd 07, 11:41 PM

Have a look here for updated drivers:
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&tabact=DownloadDetailTabAct&fcategoryid=351&modelid=10445

You are keeping over many System Restore points.

It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System Restore
on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this time
find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit.
When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit.

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JWHData wrote:
> UPDATE
>
> After furthur checking it appears that the ShutDown problem is
> related to my Canon CanoScan 4200F scanner. If I unplug the USB cable
> to the scanner Windows XP Pro shuts down in less than 45 seconds.
>
> "JWHData" wrote:
>
>> No Errors or Warnings
>>
>> Total: 282384
>> Limit: 5302820
>> Peak: 477136
>>
>> Volume (C:)
>> Volume size = 38.28 GB
>> Cluster size = 4 KB
>> Used space = 9.47 GB
>> Free space = 28.82 GB
>> Percent free space = 75 %
>>
>> Volume fragmentation
>> Total fragmentation = 2 %
>> File fragmentation = 4 %
>> Free space fragmentation = 0 %
>>
>> File fragmentation
>> Total files = 37,993
>> Average file size = 317 KB
>> Total fragmented files = 1,022
>> Total excess fragments = 8,964
>> Average fragments per file = 1.23
>>
>> Pagefile fragmentation
>> Pagefile size = 2.00 GB
>> Total fragments = 1
>>
>> Folder fragmentation
>> Total folders = 2,681
>> Fragmented folders = 32
>> Excess folder fragments = 680
>>
>> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
>> Total MFT size = 49 MB
>> MFT record count = 40,787
>> Percent MFT in use = 81 %
>> Total MFT fragments = 2
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
>> 201 4 MB \Documents and Settings\John W
>> Holt\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
>> 187 1 KB \WINDOWS\system32\config\system.LOG
>> 137 9 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP17\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
>> 137 9 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP16\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
>> 137 9 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP15\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
>> 137 9 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP14\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
>> 136 9 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP13\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
>> 136 9 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP12\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
>> 136 8 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP11\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
>> 136 8 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP10\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
>> 136 8 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP9\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>> 136 8 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP8\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>> 136 8 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP7\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>> 136 8 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP6\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>> 136 8 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP5\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>> 136 8 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP4\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>> 134 8 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP3\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>> 131 8 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP2\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>> 127 8 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP18\A0002470.dll
>> 127 8 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP1\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP17\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP16\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP15\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP14\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP13\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP12\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP11\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP10\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP9\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.D ATA
>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP8\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.D ATA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gerry" wrote:
>>
>>> Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and
>>> click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
>>> Folder and post a copy.
>>>
>>> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
>>> Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?
>>>
>>> You could look at the Error and Warnings in the Application and
>>> System logs in Event Viewer.
>>>
>>> You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative
>>> Tools, Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error,
>>> information regarding Event ID, Source and Description are
>>> important.
>>>
>>> HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427&Product=winxp
>>>
>>> A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
>>> double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
>>> appears is a button resembling two pages. Double click the button
>>> and close Event Viewer. Now start your message (email) and do a
>>> paste into the body of the message. This will paste the info from
>>> the Event Viewer Error Report complete with links into the message.
>>> Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event Viewer.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>> ~~~~
>>> FCA
>>> Stourport, England
>>>
>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> JWHData wrote:
>>>> Thanks Gerry - Interesting reading, however no change in behavor
>>>>
>>>> "Gerry" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gerry
>>>>> ~~~~
>>>>> FCA
>>>>> Stourport, England
>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>> JWHData wrote:
>>>>>> Just to clarify- I have installed all of the leatest drivers from
>>>>>> the Motherboard producers (ASUS) site. Also when I say "Slow to
>>>>>> re-boot" I am referring to the time between startup and the Boot
>>>>>> menu appearing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "JWHData" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NO - I typically don't install Driver updates specially NVIDIA
>>>>>>> updates as I have been "bitten" in the past.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "DL" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All win updates? these included drivers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "JWHData" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> I have very recently installed a new hard drive and
>>>>>>>>> re-installed Windows XP Pro from scratch. Even after
>>>>>>>>> installing all of the Windows updates it takes
>>>>>>>>> 2-4 minutes to shut down and after shutting down the computer
>>>>>>>>> is slow to re-boot. This is a new PC with an AMD Athlon 64x2
>>>>>>>>> 5200+ proccessor and 4gig
>>>>>>>>> memory. The PC is set up as Triple boot with each operating
>>>>>>>>> system (Vista Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Pro, and Windows
>>>>>>>>> 2000) on seperate drives. The other 2 operating system don't
>>>>>>>>> have any issues. After searching this issue on
>>>>>>>>> the internet I have (1) disabled the ClearPageFileAtShutdown
>>>>>>>>> option, (2) Stoped NVIDIA Driver services, and (3)Installed
>>>>>>>>> the Windows UPHClean application. The problem is still there.
>>>>>>>>> All suggestions welcomed.

JWHData

December 3rd 07, 02:32 AM

Thanks Gerry,

Actually I have the latest driver installed. The problem turned out to be
associated with the "Events" associated with the scanner buttons. Once I
deleted the Events and restored them everything started to work OK. The
system now shuts down in less than 45seconds.

"Gerry" wrote:

> Have a look here for updated drivers:
> http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&tabact=DownloadDetailTabAct&fcategoryid=351&modelid=10445
>
> You are keeping over many System Restore points.
>
> It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System Restore
> on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb.
> Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
> Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this time
> find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit.
> When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit.
>
> Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
> Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
> select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
> More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
> Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> JWHData wrote:
> > UPDATE
> >
> > After furthur checking it appears that the ShutDown problem is
> > related to my Canon CanoScan 4200F scanner. If I unplug the USB cable
> > to the scanner Windows XP Pro shuts down in less than 45 seconds.
> >
> > "JWHData" wrote:
> >
> >> No Errors or Warnings
> >>
> >> Total: 282384
> >> Limit: 5302820
> >> Peak: 477136
> >>
> >> Volume (C:)
> >> Volume size = 38.28 GB
> >> Cluster size = 4 KB
> >> Used space = 9.47 GB
> >> Free space = 28.82 GB
> >> Percent free space = 75 %
> >>
> >> Volume fragmentation
> >> Total fragmentation = 2 %
> >> File fragmentation = 4 %
> >> Free space fragmentation = 0 %
> >>
> >> File fragmentation
> >> Total files = 37,993
> >> Average file size = 317 KB
> >> Total fragmented files = 1,022
> >> Total excess fragments = 8,964
> >> Average fragments per file = 1.23
> >>
> >> Pagefile fragmentation
> >> Pagefile size = 2.00 GB
> >> Total fragments = 1
> >>
> >> Folder fragmentation
> >> Total folders = 2,681
> >> Fragmented folders = 32
> >> Excess folder fragments = 680
> >>
> >> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> >> Total MFT size = 49 MB
> >> MFT record count = 40,787
> >> Percent MFT in use = 81 %
> >> Total MFT fragments = 2
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
> >> 201 4 MB \Documents and Settings\John W
> >> Holt\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
> >> 187 1 KB \WINDOWS\system32\config\system.LOG
> >> 137 9 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP17\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
> >> 137 9 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP16\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
> >> 137 9 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP15\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
> >> 137 9 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP14\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
> >> 136 9 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP13\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
> >> 136 9 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP12\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
> >> 136 8 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP11\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
> >> 136 8 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP10\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
> >> 136 8 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP9\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> >> 136 8 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP8\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> >> 136 8 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP7\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> >> 136 8 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP6\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> >> 136 8 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP5\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> >> 136 8 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP4\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> >> 134 8 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP3\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> >> 131 8 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP2\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> >> 127 8 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP18\A0002470.dll
> >> 127 8 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP1\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
> >> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP17\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
> >> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP16\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
> >> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP15\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
> >> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP14\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
> >> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP13\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
> >> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP12\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
> >> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP11\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
> >> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP10\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
> >> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP9\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.D ATA
> >> 86 5 MB \System Volume
> >> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP8\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.D ATA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Gerry" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and
> >>> click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
> >>> Folder and post a copy.
> >>>
> >>> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
> >>> Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?
> >>>
> >>> You could look at the Error and Warnings in the Application and
> >>> System logs in Event Viewer.
> >>>
> >>> You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative
> >>> Tools, Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error,
> >>> information regarding Event ID, Source and Description are
> >>> important.
> >>>
> >>> HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427&Product=winxp
> >>>
> >>> A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
> >>> double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
> >>> appears is a button resembling two pages. Double click the button
> >>> and close Event Viewer. Now start your message (email) and do a
> >>> paste into the body of the message. This will paste the info from
> >>> the Event Viewer Error Report complete with links into the message.
> >>> Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event Viewer.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Hope this helps.
> >>>
> >>> Gerry
> >>> ~~~~
> >>> FCA
> >>> Stourport, England
> >>>
> >>> Enquire, plan and execute
> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> JWHData wrote:
> >>>> Thanks Gerry - Interesting reading, however no change in behavor
> >>>>
> >>>> "Gerry" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> http://aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gerry
> >>>>> ~~~~
> >>>>> FCA
> >>>>> Stourport, England
> >>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>>
> >>>>> JWHData wrote:
> >>>>>> Just to clarify- I have installed all of the leatest drivers from
> >>>>>> the Motherboard producers (ASUS) site. Also when I say "Slow to
> >>>>>> re-boot" I am referring to the time between startup and the Boot
> >>>>>> menu appearing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "JWHData" wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> NO - I typically don't install Driver updates specially NVIDIA
> >>>>>>> updates as I have been "bitten" in the past.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "DL" wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> All win updates? these included drivers?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "JWHData" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>> I have very recently installed a new hard drive and
> >>>>>>>>> re-installed Windows XP Pro from scratch. Even after
> >>>>>>>>> installing all of the Windows updates it takes
> >>>>>>>>> 2-4 minutes to shut down and after shutting down the computer
> >>>>>>>>> is slow to re-boot. This is a new PC with an AMD Athlon 64x2
> >>>>>>>>> 5200+ proccessor and 4gig
> >>>>>>>>> memory. The PC is set up as Triple boot with each operating
> >>>>>>>>> system (Vista Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Pro, and Windows
> >>>>>>>>> 2000) on seperate drives. The other 2 operating system don't
> >>>>>>>>> have any issues. After searching this issue on
> >>>>>>>>> the internet I have (1) disabled the ClearPageFileAtShutdown
> >>>>>>>>> option, (2) Stoped NVIDIA Driver services, and (3)Installed
> >>>>>>>>> the Windows UPHClean application. The problem is still there.
> >>>>>>>>> All suggestions welcomed.
>
>
>

Gerry

December 3rd 07, 09:47 AM

Glad it is sorted.

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JWHData wrote:
> Thanks Gerry,
>
> Actually I have the latest driver installed. The problem turned out
> to be associated with the "Events" associated with the scanner
> buttons. Once I deleted the Events and restored them everything
> started to work OK. The system now shuts down in less than 45seconds.
>
>
> "Gerry" wrote:
>
>> Have a look here for updated drivers:
>> http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&tabact=DownloadDetailTabAct&fcategoryid=351&modelid=10445
>>
>> You are keeping over many System Restore points.
>>
>> It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System
>> Restore on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce
>> it to 700 mb. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and
>> select System Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select
>> Settings but this time find the slider and drag it to the left until
>> it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click
>> on Apply and OK and exit.
>>
>> Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp
>> to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
>> select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
>> More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
>> Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> JWHData wrote:
>>> UPDATE
>>>
>>> After furthur checking it appears that the ShutDown problem is
>>> related to my Canon CanoScan 4200F scanner. If I unplug the USB
>>> cable to the scanner Windows XP Pro shuts down in less than 45
>>> seconds.
>>>
>>> "JWHData" wrote:
>>>
>>>> No Errors or Warnings
>>>>
>>>> Total: 282384
>>>> Limit: 5302820
>>>> Peak: 477136
>>>>
>>>> Volume (C:)
>>>> Volume size = 38.28 GB
>>>> Cluster size = 4 KB
>>>> Used space = 9.47 GB
>>>> Free space = 28.82 GB
>>>> Percent free space = 75 %
>>>>
>>>> Volume fragmentation
>>>> Total fragmentation = 2 %
>>>> File fragmentation = 4 %
>>>> Free space fragmentation = 0 %
>>>>
>>>> File fragmentation
>>>> Total files = 37,993
>>>> Average file size = 317 KB
>>>> Total fragmented files = 1,022
>>>> Total excess fragments = 8,964
>>>> Average fragments per file = 1.23
>>>>
>>>> Pagefile fragmentation
>>>> Pagefile size = 2.00 GB
>>>> Total fragments = 1
>>>>
>>>> Folder fragmentation
>>>> Total folders = 2,681
>>>> Fragmented folders = 32
>>>> Excess folder fragments = 680
>>>>
>>>> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
>>>> Total MFT size = 49 MB
>>>> MFT record count = 40,787
>>>> Percent MFT in use = 81 %
>>>> Total MFT fragments = 2
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
>>>> 201 4 MB \Documents and Settings\John W
>>>> Holt\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
>>>> 187 1 KB \WINDOWS\system32\config\system.LOG
>>>> 137 9 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP17\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
>>>> 137 9 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP16\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
>>>> 137 9 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP15\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
>>>> 137 9 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP14\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
>>>> 136 9 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP13\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
>>>> 136 9 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP12\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
>>>> 136 8 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP11\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
>>>> 136 8 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP10\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFT WARE
>>>> 136 8 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP9\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>>>> 136 8 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP8\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>>>> 136 8 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP7\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>>>> 136 8 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP6\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>>>> 136 8 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP5\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>>>> 136 8 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP4\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>>>> 134 8 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP3\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>>>> 131 8 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP2\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>>>> 127 8 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP18\A0002470.dll
>>>> 127 8 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP1\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTW ARE
>>>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP17\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
>>>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP16\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
>>>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP15\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
>>>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP14\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
>>>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP13\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
>>>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP12\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
>>>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP11\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
>>>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP10\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS. DATA
>>>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP9\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.D ATA
>>>> 86 5 MB \System Volume
>>>> Information\_restore{17C54C33-1B50-410E-AA84-B335F0C94D12}\RP8\snapshot\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.D ATA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gerry" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report
>>>>> and click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My
>>>>> Documents Folder and post a copy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the
>>>>> Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit
>>>>> and the Peak?
>>>>>
>>>>> You could look at the Error and Warnings in the Application and
>>>>> System logs in Event Viewer.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative
>>>>> Tools, Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error,
>>>>> information regarding Event ID, Source and Description are
>>>>> important.
>>>>>
>>>>> HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427&Product=winxp
>>>>>
>>>>> A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
>>>>> double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
>>>>> appears is a button resembling two pages. Double click the button
>>>>> and close Event Viewer. Now start your message (email) and do a
>>>>> paste into the body of the message. This will paste the info from
>>>>> the Event Viewer Error Report complete with links into the
>>>>> message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
>>>>> Event Viewer.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gerry
>>>>> ~~~~
>>>>> FCA
>>>>> Stourport, England
>>>>>
>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> JWHData wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks Gerry - Interesting reading, however no change in behavor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gerry" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>> ~~~~
>>>>>>> FCA
>>>>>>> Stourport, England
>>>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JWHData wrote:
>>>>>>>> Just to clarify- I have installed all of the leatest drivers
>>>>>>>> from the Motherboard producers (ASUS) site. Also when I say
>>>>>>>> "Slow to re-boot" I am referring to the time between startup
>>>>>>>> and the Boot menu appearing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "JWHData" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> NO - I typically don't install Driver updates specially NVIDIA
>>>>>>>>> updates as I have been "bitten" in the past.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "DL" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All win updates? these included drivers?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "JWHData" > wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> I have very recently installed a new hard drive and
>>>>>>>>>>> re-installed Windows XP Pro from scratch. Even after
>>>>>>>>>>> installing all of the Windows updates it takes
>>>>>>>>>>> 2-4 minutes to shut down and after shutting down the
>>>>>>>>>>> computer is slow to re-boot. This is a new PC with an AMD
>>>>>>>>>>> Athlon 64x2 5200+ proccessor and 4gig
>>>>>>>>>>> memory. The PC is set up as Triple boot with each operating
>>>>>>>>>>> system (Vista Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Pro, and Windows
>>>>>>>>>>> 2000) on seperate drives. The other 2 operating system don't
>>>>>>>>>>> have any issues. After searching this issue on
>>>>>>>>>>> the internet I have (1) disabled the ClearPageFileAtShutdown
>>>>>>>>>>> option, (2) Stoped NVIDIA Driver services, and (3)Installed
>>>>>>>>>>> the Windows UPHClean application. The problem is still
>>>>>>>>>>> there. All suggestions welcomed.