Messenger

[Chris Lanier]

There two "Messengers" in Windows XP

The first one "Windows Messenger" is used for chatting
with friends and family. To disable this
-Open Windows Messenger
-Tools>>Options
-Preferences tab
-Uncheck "Run this program when windows starts"
And then there's the messenger service, which can give you
alot of popups ads. To disable this..

You can just enable XP's built in firewall to stop them. -
https://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/proddocs/hnw_enable_firew
all.asp

and you can also disable the service completely if you
wish.

to stop this goto your Control Panel, goto Admin
Tools>>Services>>Scroll down to "Messenger" double click
on it, and select "Disable" instead of Auto. This will
fix it for u

both will work.
>-----Original Message-----
>How can I disable messenger? I am using Windows XP.
>
>Owen
>.
>

[Dan]

The second option is a great tool, but it is only featured in WinXP Pro Ed.

Any firewall or router will do the same for that one if you have WinXP Home
Ed...

"Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
...
> There two "Messengers" in Windows XP
>
> The first one "Windows Messenger" is used for chatting
> with friends and family. To disable this
> -Open Windows Messenger
> -Tools>>Options
> -Preferences tab
> -Uncheck "Run this program when windows starts"
> And then there's the messenger service, which can give you
> alot of popups ads. To disable this..
>
> You can just enable XP's built in firewall to stop them. -
> https://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
> url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/proddocs/hnw_enable_firew
> all.asp
>
> and you can also disable the service completely if you
> wish.
>
> to stop this goto your Control Panel, goto Admin
> Tools>>Services>>Scroll down to "Messenger" double click
> on it, and select "Disable" instead of Auto. This will
> fix it for u
>
> both will work.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >How can I disable messenger? I am using Windows XP.
> >
> >Owen
> >.
> >

[Walter Clayton]

Firewall exists on HE.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> The second option is a great tool, but it is only featured in WinXP Pro
Ed.
>
> Any firewall or router will do the same for that one if you have WinXP
Home
> Ed...
>
> "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> ...
> > There two "Messengers" in Windows XP
> >
> > The first one "Windows Messenger" is used for chatting
> > with friends and family. To disable this
> > -Open Windows Messenger
> > -Tools>>Options
> > -Preferences tab
> > -Uncheck "Run this program when windows starts"
> > And then there's the messenger service, which can give you
> > alot of popups ads. To disable this..
> >
> > You can just enable XP's built in firewall to stop them. -
> > https://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
> > url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/proddocs/hnw_enable_firew
> > all.asp
> >
> > and you can also disable the service completely if you
> > wish.
> >
> > to stop this goto your Control Panel, goto Admin
> > Tools>>Services>>Scroll down to "Messenger" double click
> > on it, and select "Disable" instead of Auto. This will
> > fix it for u
> >
> > both will work.
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >How can I disable messenger? I am using Windows XP.
> > >
> > >Owen
> > >.
> > >
>
>

[Dan]

Where?

If behind a router or using a 3rd party wall, it blocks the messages, but
straight inet connection gets those popups like mad (not to mention is
incredibly non-secure).

I have tried all suggestions, but have found that Home Edition has no inet
connection firewall...

"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
...
> Firewall exists on HE.
>
> --
> Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> http://www.dts-l.org
> http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
>
>
> "Dan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > The second option is a great tool, but it is only featured in WinXP Pro
> Ed.
> >
> > Any firewall or router will do the same for that one if you have WinXP
> Home
> > Ed...
> >
> > "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > There two "Messengers" in Windows XP
> > >
> > > The first one "Windows Messenger" is used for chatting
> > > with friends and family. To disable this
> > > -Open Windows Messenger
> > > -Tools>>Options
> > > -Preferences tab
> > > -Uncheck "Run this program when windows starts"
> > > And then there's the messenger service, which can give you
> > > alot of popups ads. To disable this..
> > >
> > > You can just enable XP's built in firewall to stop them. -
> > > https://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
> > > url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/proddocs/hnw_enable_firew
> > > all.asp
> > >
> > > and you can also disable the service completely if you
> > > wish.
> > >
> > > to stop this goto your Control Panel, goto Admin
> > > Tools>>Services>>Scroll down to "Messenger" double click
> > > on it, and select "Disable" instead of Auto. This will
> > > fix it for u
> > >
> > > both will work.
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >How can I disable messenger? I am using Windows XP.
> > > >
> > > >Owen
> > > >.
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Walter Clayton]

Open network connections. Right click the NIC connectiod and select
properties. Go to advanced tab. Check the box in the top labeled "internet
connection firewall". Depending on your hardware configuration it may be the
only option.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> Where?
>
> If behind a router or using a 3rd party wall, it blocks the messages, but
> straight inet connection gets those popups like mad (not to mention is
> incredibly non-secure).
>
> I have tried all suggestions, but have found that Home Edition has no inet
> connection firewall...
>
> "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Firewall exists on HE.
> >
> > --
> > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> > http://www.dts-l.org
> > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> >
> >
> > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > The second option is a great tool, but it is only featured in WinXP
Pro
> > Ed.
> > >
> > > Any firewall or router will do the same for that one if you have WinXP
> > Home
> > > Ed...
> > >
> > > "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > There two "Messengers" in Windows XP
> > > >
> > > > The first one "Windows Messenger" is used for chatting
> > > > with friends and family. To disable this
> > > > -Open Windows Messenger
> > > > -Tools>>Options
> > > > -Preferences tab
> > > > -Uncheck "Run this program when windows starts"
> > > > And then there's the messenger service, which can give you
> > > > alot of popups ads. To disable this..
> > > >
> > > > You can just enable XP's built in firewall to stop them. -
> > > > https://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
> > > > url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/proddocs/hnw_enable_firew
> > > > all.asp
> > > >
> > > > and you can also disable the service completely if you
> > > > wish.
> > > >
> > > > to stop this goto your Control Panel, goto Admin
> > > > Tools>>Services>>Scroll down to "Messenger" double click
> > > > on it, and select "Disable" instead of Auto. This will
> > > > fix it for u
> > > >
> > > > both will work.
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >How can I disable messenger? I am using Windows XP.
> > > > >
> > > > >Owen
> > > > >.
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Dan]

WinXP Home doesn't have the advanced tab...

I already triewd looking for it several times in all of my NIC
connections...


"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
...
> Open network connections. Right click the NIC connectiod and select
> properties. Go to advanced tab. Check the box in the top labeled "internet
> connection firewall". Depending on your hardware configuration it may be
the
> only option.
>
> --
> Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> http://www.dts-l.org
> http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
>
>
> "Dan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Where?
> >
> > If behind a router or using a 3rd party wall, it blocks the messages,
but
> > straight inet connection gets those popups like mad (not to mention is
> > incredibly non-secure).
> >
> > I have tried all suggestions, but have found that Home Edition has no
inet
> > connection firewall...
> >
> > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Firewall exists on HE.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > The second option is a great tool, but it is only featured in WinXP
> Pro
> > > Ed.
> > > >
> > > > Any firewall or router will do the same for that one if you have
WinXP
> > > Home
> > > > Ed...
> > > >
> > > > "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > There two "Messengers" in Windows XP
> > > > >
> > > > > The first one "Windows Messenger" is used for chatting
> > > > > with friends and family. To disable this
> > > > > -Open Windows Messenger
> > > > > -Tools>>Options
> > > > > -Preferences tab
> > > > > -Uncheck "Run this program when windows starts"
> > > > > And then there's the messenger service, which can give you
> > > > > alot of popups ads. To disable this..
> > > > >
> > > > > You can just enable XP's built in firewall to stop them. -
> > > > > https://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
> > > > > url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/proddocs/hnw_enable_firew
> > > > > all.asp
> > > > >
> > > > > and you can also disable the service completely if you
> > > > > wish.
> > > > >
> > > > > to stop this goto your Control Panel, goto Admin
> > > > > Tools>>Services>>Scroll down to "Messenger" double click
> > > > > on it, and select "Disable" instead of Auto. This will
> > > > > fix it for u
> > > > >
> > > > > both will work.
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >How can I disable messenger? I am using Windows XP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Owen
> > > > > >.
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Frank Saunders, MS-MVP]

"Dan" > wrote in message

> WinXP Home doesn't have the advanced tab...
>
> I already triewd looking for it several times in all of my NIC
> connections...
>

My WinXP Home does.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP
Please respond in Newsgroup. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com

[Joan Archer]

I run XP Home and mine has it.
Joan

"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> WinXP Home doesn't have the advanced tab...
>
> I already triewd looking for it several times in all of my NIC
> connections...
>

[Dan]

hmmm...

is there an ms techie that can help me ?

i am looking at the network connections:
- i use a network bridge, so that is my network connection
- i click it, go to properties
- i see 2 tabs at the top of the new window: general and authentication
- i see the normal properties etc under them
- am i doing something wrong? i can't seem to get the Internet Connection
Firewall

Help please... Thanks in advance...

-- Dan


"Joan Archer" > wrote in message
...
> I run XP Home and mine has it.
> Joan
>
> "Dan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > WinXP Home doesn't have the advanced tab...
> >
> > I already triewd looking for it several times in all of my NIC
> > connections...
> >
>
>

[Unknown]

Tabs are general and ADVANCED on my system. I don't use a network bridge
however so cannot speak for 'authentication'.
"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> hmmm...
>
> is there an ms techie that can help me ?
>
> i am looking at the network connections:
> - i use a network bridge, so that is my network connection
> - i click it, go to properties
> - i see 2 tabs at the top of the new window: general and authentication
> - i see the normal properties etc under them
> - am i doing something wrong? i can't seem to get the Internet
Connection
> Firewall
>
> Help please... Thanks in advance...
>
> -- Dan
>
>
> "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I run XP Home and mine has it.
> > Joan
> >
> > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > WinXP Home doesn't have the advanced tab...
> > >
> > > I already triewd looking for it several times in all of my NIC
> > > connections...
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Dan]

There isn't anything on authentication except the type thereof that you
wanrt windows to use to verify users over the network or somewthing like
that.

-- Dan

"Unknown" > wrote in message
om...
> Tabs are general and ADVANCED on my system. I don't use a network bridge
> however so cannot speak for 'authentication'.
> "Dan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > hmmm...
> >
> > is there an ms techie that can help me ?
> >
> > i am looking at the network connections:
> > - i use a network bridge, so that is my network connection
> > - i click it, go to properties
> > - i see 2 tabs at the top of the new window: general and authentication
> > - i see the normal properties etc under them
> > - am i doing something wrong? i can't seem to get the Internet
> Connection
> > Firewall
> >
> > Help please... Thanks in advance...
> >
> > -- Dan
> >
> >
> > "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I run XP Home and mine has it.
> > > Joan
> > >
> > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > WinXP Home doesn't have the advanced tab...
> > > >
> > > > I already triewd looking for it several times in all of my NIC
> > > > connections...
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

[Walter Clayton]

Why are you bridging? What are you bridging?

Unless you have a reason to actually bridge, bridging causes all kind of
issues. Unless you have a reason to bridge the first thing you need do is
get rid of the bridge.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.

http://www.dts-l.org


"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> There isn't anything on authentication except the type thereof that you
> wanrt windows to use to verify users over the network or somewthing like
> that.
>
> -- Dan
>
> "Unknown" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Tabs are general and ADVANCED on my system. I don't use a network bridge
> > however so cannot speak for 'authentication'.
> > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > hmmm...
> > >
> > > is there an ms techie that can help me ?
> > >
> > > i am looking at the network connections:
> > > - i use a network bridge, so that is my network connection
> > > - i click it, go to properties
> > > - i see 2 tabs at the top of the new window: general and
authentication
> > > - i see the normal properties etc under them
> > > - am i doing something wrong? i can't seem to get the Internet
> > Connection
> > > Firewall
> > >
> > > Help please... Thanks in advance...
> > >
> > > -- Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I run XP Home and mine has it.
> > > > Joan
> > > >
> > > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > WinXP Home doesn't have the advanced tab...
> > > > >
> > > > > I already triewd looking for it several times in all of my NIC
> > > > > connections...
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

[Dan]

Walter --

I am bridging the connection between my desktop computer and laptop
computer.

I am bridging because this was the product of the "Create new network
connection" wizard.

I tried doing a network by simply assigning the comps the the same
workgroup, but that didn't work well (random disconnections, etc.), so I
used the wizard on WinXp, and the network got set up fine and dandy, all
perfect.

I'm not sure if I did this right, but I am not having any issues with
networking or the messenger popups, since I used the networking wizard, and
I have both Sygate Personal Firewall and Zone Alarm Personal Firewall
installed and working on my systems.

Please let me know
a.) If I did something wrong
b.) If I need to have the ICF enabled
c.) What happens if I don't have the ICF enabled
d.) Anything else that pertains to the subject

Thanks very much for helping me out with this issue!

-- Dan

"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
...
> Why are you bridging? What are you bridging?
>
> Unless you have a reason to actually bridge, bridging causes all kind of
> issues. Unless you have a reason to bridge the first thing you need do is
> get rid of the bridge.
>
> --
> Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
>
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Dan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > There isn't anything on authentication except the type thereof that you
> > wanrt windows to use to verify users over the network or somewthing like
> > that.
> >
> > -- Dan
> >
> > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > Tabs are general and ADVANCED on my system. I don't use a network
bridge
> > > however so cannot speak for 'authentication'.
> > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > hmmm...
> > > >
> > > > is there an ms techie that can help me ?
> > > >
> > > > i am looking at the network connections:
> > > > - i use a network bridge, so that is my network connection
> > > > - i click it, go to properties
> > > > - i see 2 tabs at the top of the new window: general and
> authentication
> > > > - i see the normal properties etc under them
> > > > - am i doing something wrong? i can't seem to get the Internet
> > > Connection
> > > > Firewall
> > > >
> > > > Help please... Thanks in advance...
> > > >
> > > > -- Dan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > I run XP Home and mine has it.
> > > > > Joan
> > > > >
> > > > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > WinXP Home doesn't have the advanced tab...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I already triewd looking for it several times in all of my NIC
> > > > > > connections...
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

[Walter Clayton]

The wizard bridges all network connections by default. That is, if you have
multiple NICS, firewire adapters or even multiple modems the wizard will try
to "clump" them by bridging. This is extremely problematic when dealing with
dockable laptops that are used undocked in one location with one type of
topology and another network with a different topology. What bridging does
is connects two or more physically separate networks into a single network.
Reality is that the only time this occurs is in an enterprise level
environment. The fact that the XP networking wizard bridges by default is,
literally, a nightmare.

Before I can say much else though, I need to know what your network topology
is. I can tell you one thing off the bat though and that is you should not
be running multiple firewalls. Of the two I know that the free version of ZA
is problematic with LANs and I've only heard that the free version of Sygate
is workable. I do know that Kerio can be used on a LAN without any issues,
as well as other firewalls that cost. ICF is not appropriate on a LAN. It's
OK to enable ICF on the WAN side of the network, but enabling it on the LAN
can be a nightmare.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.

http://www.dts-l.org


"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> Walter --
>
> I am bridging the connection between my desktop computer and laptop
> computer.
>
> I am bridging because this was the product of the "Create new network
> connection" wizard.
>
> I tried doing a network by simply assigning the comps the the same
> workgroup, but that didn't work well (random disconnections, etc.), so I
> used the wizard on WinXp, and the network got set up fine and dandy, all
> perfect.
>
> I'm not sure if I did this right, but I am not having any issues with
> networking or the messenger popups, since I used the networking wizard,
and
> I have both Sygate Personal Firewall and Zone Alarm Personal Firewall
> installed and working on my systems.
>
> Please let me know
> a.) If I did something wrong
> b.) If I need to have the ICF enabled
> c.) What happens if I don't have the ICF enabled
> d.) Anything else that pertains to the subject
>
> Thanks very much for helping me out with this issue!
>
> -- Dan
>
> "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Why are you bridging? What are you bridging?
> >
> > Unless you have a reason to actually bridge, bridging causes all kind of
> > issues. Unless you have a reason to bridge the first thing you need do
is
> > get rid of the bridge.
> >
> > --
> > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> >
> > http://www.dts-l.org
> >
> >
> > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > There isn't anything on authentication except the type thereof that
you
> > > wanrt windows to use to verify users over the network or somewthing
like
> > > that.
> > >
> > > -- Dan
> > >
> > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > om...
> > > > Tabs are general and ADVANCED on my system. I don't use a network
> bridge
> > > > however so cannot speak for 'authentication'.
> > > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > hmmm...
> > > > >
> > > > > is there an ms techie that can help me ?
> > > > >
> > > > > i am looking at the network connections:
> > > > > - i use a network bridge, so that is my network connection
> > > > > - i click it, go to properties
> > > > > - i see 2 tabs at the top of the new window: general and
> > authentication
> > > > > - i see the normal properties etc under them
> > > > > - am i doing something wrong? i can't seem to get the Internet
> > > > Connection
> > > > > Firewall
> > > > >
> > > > > Help please... Thanks in advance...
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Dan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > I run XP Home and mine has it.
> > > > > > Joan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > WinXP Home doesn't have the advanced tab...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I already triewd looking for it several times in all of my NIC
> > > > > > > connections...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

[Dan]

Walter and All --

Thank you so much for all your help!

So, if I understand what you are saying:
- I don't need the ICF on a LAN, only WAN
- Bridging is a nightmare (which I knew, but just verifying that fact)

Multiple firewalls are working great with my network. I correctly
configured Zone Alarm (free) to work with the LAN, so that was never an
issue. Sygate always worked with the LAN, so never an issue. Both combined
are awesome, because Sygate catches all the intrusions (ZA gets most) and
they do two checks for program security, in case something got past one, the
other catches it.

Notes on config ZA for LAN use:
- Under "Firewall" (Main tab) set Internet zone security to High, set
Trusted zone security to Low
- Under "Program Control" (Main tab) set Program Control to Medium
- These set it up to work beautifully with a LAN

The only thing I am still not sure about is a.) wether to to remove my
bridge and b.) what you meant by topology of my network. Last time I
disabled the bridge, my computer's Inet Connection went completely down, and
I reenabled it ASAP. Any issues/thoughts/comments on this?

Thanks again!

-- Dan


"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
...
> The wizard bridges all network connections by default. That is, if you
have
> multiple NICS, firewire adapters or even multiple modems the wizard will
try
> to "clump" them by bridging. This is extremely problematic when dealing
with
> dockable laptops that are used undocked in one location with one type of
> topology and another network with a different topology. What bridging does
> is connects two or more physically separate networks into a single
network.
> Reality is that the only time this occurs is in an enterprise level
> environment. The fact that the XP networking wizard bridges by default is,
> literally, a nightmare.
>
> Before I can say much else though, I need to know what your network
topology
> is. I can tell you one thing off the bat though and that is you should not
> be running multiple firewalls. Of the two I know that the free version of
ZA
> is problematic with LANs and I've only heard that the free version of
Sygate
> is workable. I do know that Kerio can be used on a LAN without any issues,
> as well as other firewalls that cost. ICF is not appropriate on a LAN.
It's
> OK to enable ICF on the WAN side of the network, but enabling it on the
LAN
> can be a nightmare.
>
> --
> Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
>
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Dan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Walter --
> >
> > I am bridging the connection between my desktop computer and laptop
> > computer.
> >
> > I am bridging because this was the product of the "Create new network
> > connection" wizard.
> >
> > I tried doing a network by simply assigning the comps the the same
> > workgroup, but that didn't work well (random disconnections, etc.), so I
> > used the wizard on WinXp, and the network got set up fine and dandy, all
> > perfect.
> >
> > I'm not sure if I did this right, but I am not having any issues with
> > networking or the messenger popups, since I used the networking wizard,
> and
> > I have both Sygate Personal Firewall and Zone Alarm Personal Firewall
> > installed and working on my systems.
> >
> > Please let me know
> > a.) If I did something wrong
> > b.) If I need to have the ICF enabled
> > c.) What happens if I don't have the ICF enabled
> > d.) Anything else that pertains to the subject
> >
> > Thanks very much for helping me out with this issue!
> >
> > -- Dan
> >
> > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Why are you bridging? What are you bridging?
> > >
> > > Unless you have a reason to actually bridge, bridging causes all kind
of
> > > issues. Unless you have a reason to bridge the first thing you need do
> is
> > > get rid of the bridge.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> > >
> > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > There isn't anything on authentication except the type thereof that
> you
> > > > wanrt windows to use to verify users over the network or somewthing
> like
> > > > that.
> > > >
> > > > -- Dan
> > > >
> > > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > > om...
> > > > > Tabs are general and ADVANCED on my system. I don't use a network
> > bridge
> > > > > however so cannot speak for 'authentication'.
> > > > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > hmmm...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > is there an ms techie that can help me ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i am looking at the network connections:
> > > > > > - i use a network bridge, so that is my network connection
> > > > > > - i click it, go to properties
> > > > > > - i see 2 tabs at the top of the new window: general and
> > > authentication
> > > > > > - i see the normal properties etc under them
> > > > > > - am i doing something wrong? i can't seem to get the Internet
> > > > > Connection
> > > > > > Firewall
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Help please... Thanks in advance...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- Dan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > I run XP Home and mine has it.
> > > > > > > Joan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > WinXP Home doesn't have the advanced tab...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I already triewd looking for it several times in all of my
NIC
> > > > > > > > connections...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

[Walter Clayton]

Correctly configured, one and only one firewall will capture all intrusions
without letting anything through to a second firewall. That's why running a
firewall on machines on a LAN behind a router with an SPI firewall doesn't
gain anything. The issue with running two firewalls is that all traffic is
being vetted twice which is literally double the overhead for no additional
security.

And yes, I can actually configure ZA to run in high security on a LAN as
well as a WAN, but it's not a simple process. What you've done with ZA is
open the barn doors which is why Sygate is trapping traffic as well.

Disabling a bridge is not the same thing as deleting it. Disabling a bridge
disables all associated NICs which is a completely different thing.

Setting that aside, lets look at topology. In crude diagrams your
configuration should be something along the lines of one of the following:

[WAN]--->[PC1]-->[PC2]

[WAN]-->[Router]-->[PC1]
-->[PC2]

[WAN]-->[HUB]-->[PC1]
-->[PC2]

Notice on the last two that there is a major difference between the function
of a router and a hub. Also, there are variations on the theme that I have
seen some people attempt. These invariably have a lot of problems.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.

http://www.dts-l.org


"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> Walter and All --
>
> Thank you so much for all your help!
>
> So, if I understand what you are saying:
> - I don't need the ICF on a LAN, only WAN
> - Bridging is a nightmare (which I knew, but just verifying that fact)
>
> Multiple firewalls are working great with my network. I correctly
> configured Zone Alarm (free) to work with the LAN, so that was never an
> issue. Sygate always worked with the LAN, so never an issue. Both
combined
> are awesome, because Sygate catches all the intrusions (ZA gets most) and
> they do two checks for program security, in case something got past one,
the
> other catches it.
>
> Notes on config ZA for LAN use:
> - Under "Firewall" (Main tab) set Internet zone security to High, set
> Trusted zone security to Low
> - Under "Program Control" (Main tab) set Program Control to Medium
> - These set it up to work beautifully with a LAN
>
> The only thing I am still not sure about is a.) wether to to remove my
> bridge and b.) what you meant by topology of my network. Last time I
> disabled the bridge, my computer's Inet Connection went completely down,
and
> I reenabled it ASAP. Any issues/thoughts/comments on this?
>
> Thanks again!
>
> -- Dan
>
>
> "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > The wizard bridges all network connections by default. That is, if you
> have
> > multiple NICS, firewire adapters or even multiple modems the wizard will
> try
> > to "clump" them by bridging. This is extremely problematic when dealing
> with
> > dockable laptops that are used undocked in one location with one type of
> > topology and another network with a different topology. What bridging
does
> > is connects two or more physically separate networks into a single
> network.
> > Reality is that the only time this occurs is in an enterprise level
> > environment. The fact that the XP networking wizard bridges by default
is,
> > literally, a nightmare.
> >
> > Before I can say much else though, I need to know what your network
> topology
> > is. I can tell you one thing off the bat though and that is you should
not
> > be running multiple firewalls. Of the two I know that the free version
of
> ZA
> > is problematic with LANs and I've only heard that the free version of
> Sygate
> > is workable. I do know that Kerio can be used on a LAN without any
issues,
> > as well as other firewalls that cost. ICF is not appropriate on a LAN.
> It's
> > OK to enable ICF on the WAN side of the network, but enabling it on the
> LAN
> > can be a nightmare.
> >
> > --
> > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> >
> > http://www.dts-l.org
> >
> >
> > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Walter --
> > >
> > > I am bridging the connection between my desktop computer and laptop
> > > computer.
> > >
> > > I am bridging because this was the product of the "Create new network
> > > connection" wizard.
> > >
> > > I tried doing a network by simply assigning the comps the the same
> > > workgroup, but that didn't work well (random disconnections, etc.), so
I
> > > used the wizard on WinXp, and the network got set up fine and dandy,
all
> > > perfect.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if I did this right, but I am not having any issues with
> > > networking or the messenger popups, since I used the networking
wizard,
> > and
> > > I have both Sygate Personal Firewall and Zone Alarm Personal Firewall
> > > installed and working on my systems.
> > >
> > > Please let me know
> > > a.) If I did something wrong
> > > b.) If I need to have the ICF enabled
> > > c.) What happens if I don't have the ICF enabled
> > > d.) Anything else that pertains to the subject
> > >
> > > Thanks very much for helping me out with this issue!
> > >
> > > -- Dan
> > >
> > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Why are you bridging? What are you bridging?
> > > >
> > > > Unless you have a reason to actually bridge, bridging causes all
kind
> of
> > > > issues. Unless you have a reason to bridge the first thing you need
do
> > is
> > > > get rid of the bridge.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
advanced.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > There isn't anything on authentication except the type thereof
that
> > you
> > > > > wanrt windows to use to verify users over the network or
somewthing
> > like
> > > > > that.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Dan
> > > > >
> > > > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > > > om...
> > > > > > Tabs are general and ADVANCED on my system. I don't use a
network
> > > bridge
> > > > > > however so cannot speak for 'authentication'.
> > > > > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > hmmm...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > is there an ms techie that can help me ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i am looking at the network connections:
> > > > > > > - i use a network bridge, so that is my network connection
> > > > > > > - i click it, go to properties
> > > > > > > - i see 2 tabs at the top of the new window: general and
> > > > authentication
> > > > > > > - i see the normal properties etc under them
> > > > > > > - am i doing something wrong? i can't seem to get the
Internet
> > > > > > Connection
> > > > > > > Firewall
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Help please... Thanks in advance...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -- Dan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > I run XP Home and mine has it.
> > > > > > > > Joan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > WinXP Home doesn't have the advanced tab...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I already triewd looking for it several times in all of my
> NIC
> > > > > > > > > connections...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

[Dan]

I am running a server, so that is my reason for running firewalls on the
computer even though its behind a router.

Both Zone Alarm and Sygate catch the same intrusions and programs, so I
think maybe I can delete Zone Alarm (?) since Sygate actually shows attack
ip's, times, types, etc. and is (in my opinion) better than ZA.

The Topology of my Lan:

[WAN] --> [Router] --> [PC1 - Win98]
--> [Server - WinXP]

Thanks

-- Dan


"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
...
> Correctly configured, one and only one firewall will capture all
intrusions
> without letting anything through to a second firewall. That's why running
a
> firewall on machines on a LAN behind a router with an SPI firewall doesn't
> gain anything. The issue with running two firewalls is that all traffic is
> being vetted twice which is literally double the overhead for no
additional
> security.
>
> And yes, I can actually configure ZA to run in high security on a LAN as
> well as a WAN, but it's not a simple process. What you've done with ZA is
> open the barn doors which is why Sygate is trapping traffic as well.
>
> Disabling a bridge is not the same thing as deleting it. Disabling a
bridge
> disables all associated NICs which is a completely different thing.
>
> Setting that aside, lets look at topology. In crude diagrams your
> configuration should be something along the lines of one of the following:
>
> [WAN]--->[PC1]-->[PC2]
>
> [WAN]-->[Router]-->[PC1]
> -->[PC2]
>
> [WAN]-->[HUB]-->[PC1]
> -->[PC2]
>
> Notice on the last two that there is a major difference between the
function
> of a router and a hub. Also, there are variations on the theme that I have
> seen some people attempt. These invariably have a lot of problems.
>
> --
> Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
>
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Dan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Walter and All --
> >
> > Thank you so much for all your help!
> >
> > So, if I understand what you are saying:
> > - I don't need the ICF on a LAN, only WAN
> > - Bridging is a nightmare (which I knew, but just verifying that fact)
> >
> > Multiple firewalls are working great with my network. I correctly
> > configured Zone Alarm (free) to work with the LAN, so that was never an
> > issue. Sygate always worked with the LAN, so never an issue. Both
> combined
> > are awesome, because Sygate catches all the intrusions (ZA gets most)
and
> > they do two checks for program security, in case something got past one,
> the
> > other catches it.
> >
> > Notes on config ZA for LAN use:
> > - Under "Firewall" (Main tab) set Internet zone security to High, set
> > Trusted zone security to Low
> > - Under "Program Control" (Main tab) set Program Control to Medium
> > - These set it up to work beautifully with a LAN
> >
> > The only thing I am still not sure about is a.) wether to to remove my
> > bridge and b.) what you meant by topology of my network. Last time I
> > disabled the bridge, my computer's Inet Connection went completely down,
> and
> > I reenabled it ASAP. Any issues/thoughts/comments on this?
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> > -- Dan
> >
> >
> > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > The wizard bridges all network connections by default. That is, if you
> > have
> > > multiple NICS, firewire adapters or even multiple modems the wizard
will
> > try
> > > to "clump" them by bridging. This is extremely problematic when
dealing
> > with
> > > dockable laptops that are used undocked in one location with one type
of
> > > topology and another network with a different topology. What bridging
> does
> > > is connects two or more physically separate networks into a single
> > network.
> > > Reality is that the only time this occurs is in an enterprise level
> > > environment. The fact that the XP networking wizard bridges by default
> is,
> > > literally, a nightmare.
> > >
> > > Before I can say much else though, I need to know what your network
> > topology
> > > is. I can tell you one thing off the bat though and that is you should
> not
> > > be running multiple firewalls. Of the two I know that the free version
> of
> > ZA
> > > is problematic with LANs and I've only heard that the free version of
> > Sygate
> > > is workable. I do know that Kerio can be used on a LAN without any
> issues,
> > > as well as other firewalls that cost. ICF is not appropriate on a LAN.
> > It's
> > > OK to enable ICF on the WAN side of the network, but enabling it on
the
> > LAN
> > > can be a nightmare.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> > >
> > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Walter --
> > > >
> > > > I am bridging the connection between my desktop computer and laptop
> > > > computer.
> > > >
> > > > I am bridging because this was the product of the "Create new
network
> > > > connection" wizard.
> > > >
> > > > I tried doing a network by simply assigning the comps the the same
> > > > workgroup, but that didn't work well (random disconnections, etc.),
so
> I
> > > > used the wizard on WinXp, and the network got set up fine and dandy,
> all
> > > > perfect.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure if I did this right, but I am not having any issues
with
> > > > networking or the messenger popups, since I used the networking
> wizard,
> > > and
> > > > I have both Sygate Personal Firewall and Zone Alarm Personal
Firewall
> > > > installed and working on my systems.
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know
> > > > a.) If I did something wrong
> > > > b.) If I need to have the ICF enabled
> > > > c.) What happens if I don't have the ICF enabled
> > > > d.) Anything else that pertains to the subject
> > > >
> > > > Thanks very much for helping me out with this issue!
> > > >
> > > > -- Dan
> > > >
> > > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Why are you bridging? What are you bridging?
> > > > >
> > > > > Unless you have a reason to actually bridge, bridging causes all
> kind
> > of
> > > > > issues. Unless you have a reason to bridge the first thing you
need
> do
> > > is
> > > > > get rid of the bridge.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
> advanced.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > There isn't anything on authentication except the type thereof
> that
> > > you
> > > > > > wanrt windows to use to verify users over the network or
> somewthing
> > > like
> > > > > > that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- Dan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > > > > om...
> > > > > > > Tabs are general and ADVANCED on my system. I don't use a
> network
> > > > bridge
> > > > > > > however so cannot speak for 'authentication'.
> > > > > > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > hmmm...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > is there an ms techie that can help me ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > i am looking at the network connections:
> > > > > > > > - i use a network bridge, so that is my network connection
> > > > > > > > - i click it, go to properties
> > > > > > > > - i see 2 tabs at the top of the new window: general and
> > > > > authentication
> > > > > > > > - i see the normal properties etc under them
> > > > > > > > - am i doing something wrong? i can't seem to get the
> Internet
> > > > > > > Connection
> > > > > > > > Firewall
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Help please... Thanks in advance...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -- Dan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > I run XP Home and mine has it.
> > > > > > > > > Joan
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > WinXP Home doesn't have the advanced tab...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I already triewd looking for it several times in all of
my
> > NIC
> > > > > > > > > > connections...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

[Walter Clayton]

OK. Delete the bridge. Each machine has a single connection and that
connection is to the router.
And yes, uninstall ZA.

Before I go much further, I need to know what you use the server for in
general terms. Are you running a server for internet access by others or is
it strictly for LAN access only? Do you use it as a work station at the same
time to access the internet?

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org


"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> I am running a server, so that is my reason for running firewalls on the
> computer even though its behind a router.
>
> Both Zone Alarm and Sygate catch the same intrusions and programs, so I
> think maybe I can delete Zone Alarm (?) since Sygate actually shows attack
> ip's, times, types, etc. and is (in my opinion) better than ZA.
>
> The Topology of my Lan:
>
> [WAN] --> [Router] --> [PC1 - Win98]
> --> [Server - WinXP]
>
> Thanks
>
> -- Dan
>
>

[Dan]

My Server's Use:
- Mail Server (POP3, SMTP)
- FTP Server
- HTTP Server (Apache)
- MySQL Server

Basically, its a full-fledged, all-purpose server.
My server is a workstation and accesses the internet at the same time.

-- Dan

"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
...
> OK. Delete the bridge. Each machine has a single connection and that
> connection is to the router.
> And yes, uninstall ZA.
>
> Before I go much further, I need to know what you use the server for in
> general terms. Are you running a server for internet access by others or
is
> it strictly for LAN access only? Do you use it as a work station at the
same
> time to access the internet?
>
> --
> Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Dan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I am running a server, so that is my reason for running firewalls on the
> > computer even though its behind a router.
> >
> > Both Zone Alarm and Sygate catch the same intrusions and programs, so I
> > think maybe I can delete Zone Alarm (?) since Sygate actually shows
attack
> > ip's, times, types, etc. and is (in my opinion) better than ZA.
> >
> > The Topology of my Lan:
> >
> > [WAN] --> [Router] --> [PC1 - Win98]
> > --> [Server - WinXP]
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > -- Dan
> >
> >
>

[Dan]

Sorry, I didn't specify LAN / Internet in the previous response.

It is intended for use over the internet, which it fulfils rather well.

-- Dan

"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
...
> OK. Delete the bridge. Each machine has a single connection and that
> connection is to the router.
> And yes, uninstall ZA.
>
> Before I go much further, I need to know what you use the server for in
> general terms. Are you running a server for internet access by others or
is
> it strictly for LAN access only? Do you use it as a work station at the
same
> time to access the internet?
>
> --
> Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Dan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I am running a server, so that is my reason for running firewalls on the
> > computer even though its behind a router.
> >
> > Both Zone Alarm and Sygate catch the same intrusions and programs, so I
> > think maybe I can delete Zone Alarm (?) since Sygate actually shows
attack
> > ip's, times, types, etc. and is (in my opinion) better than ZA.
> >
> > The Topology of my Lan:
> >
> > [WAN] --> [Router] --> [PC1 - Win98]
> > --> [Server - WinXP]
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > -- Dan
> >
> >
>

[Walter Clayton]

Sorry for the delay getting back. I'm still recovering from an oh-oh
involving 50G of stuff that wasn't backed up when one of my HDs decided it
was going to throw a hissy.

Regardless. In the configuration you have, unless you replace the router
with something that has an integrated firewall or simply add a dedicated
firewall upstream between the WAN and router, it won't hurt to run a
firewall on each machine. The problem, as you've seen, is getting the
firewall to do what's needed with regard blocking unwanted WAN traffic while
allowing unrestricted LAN access. Sygate, Kerio and others are more
appropriate than the free version of ZA or ICF. Personally I'd opt for the
external dedicated firewall just to minimize exposure on the LAN. That'll
take a bit of doing though since you'll have to configure an external
firewall to port forward so as not to break the desired exposure of the
server to the WAN.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org


"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> Sorry, I didn't specify LAN / Internet in the previous response.
>
> It is intended for use over the internet, which it fulfils rather well.
>
> -- Dan
>
> "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > OK. Delete the bridge. Each machine has a single connection and that
> > connection is to the router.
> > And yes, uninstall ZA.
> >
> > Before I go much further, I need to know what you use the server for in
> > general terms. Are you running a server for internet access by others or
> is
> > it strictly for LAN access only? Do you use it as a work station at the
> same
> > time to access the internet?
> >
> > --
> > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> > http://www.dts-l.org
> >
> >
> > "Dan" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I am running a server, so that is my reason for running firewalls on
the
> > > computer even though its behind a router.
> > >
> > > Both Zone Alarm and Sygate catch the same intrusions and programs, so
I
> > > think maybe I can delete Zone Alarm (?) since Sygate actually shows
> attack
> > > ip's, times, types, etc. and is (in my opinion) better than ZA.
> > >
> > > The Topology of my Lan:
> > >
> > > [WAN] --> [Router] --> [PC1 - Win98]
> > > --> [Server - WinXP]
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > -- Dan
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>