Questions about Nero 8

[PT]

I'm looking for software with which I can easily:

1. duplicate unprotected CD's or DVD's

2. create data file backups.

I was directed to Nero 8. But I found their website confusing. For example
the Nero 8 Ultimate web page describes a program BackItUp, but I'm not clear
whether this is a different program, or just a component of Nero.

In addition, the Nero 8 Ultimate program looks as though its designed for a
variety of tasks far beyond my needs.

I'm not worried about the price, as much as ending up with a highly complex
and hard to use program.

Please advise

--

PT

[Chet]

Of great historical significance to all, "PT" >
declared on Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:24:57 -0700:

> I'm looking for software with which I can easily:
>
> 1. duplicate unprotected CD's or DVD's
>
> 2. create data file backups.
>
> I was directed to Nero 8. But I found their website
> confusing. For example the Nero 8 Ultimate web page
> describes a program BackItUp, but I'm not clear whether this
> is a different program, or just a component of Nero.
>
> In addition, the Nero 8 Ultimate program looks as though its
> designed for a variety of tasks far beyond my needs.
>
> I'm not worried about the price, as much as ending up with a
> highly complex and hard to use program.
>
> Please advise
>
> --
>
> PT
>

You might check out CDBurnerXP
<http://www.cdburnerxp.se/>

I've seen it recommended in these groups before.

Also, even though the name is CDBurner if you check the Features page, it says it does DVDs as well. Plus it free.

hth
--

"I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid."
- Terry Bradshaw -

[sandy58[_3_]]

On Jul 27, 4:24 am, "PT" > wrote:
> I'm looking for software with which I can easily:
>
> 1. duplicate unprotected CD's or DVD's
>
> 2. create data file backups.
>
> I was directed to Nero 8. But I found their website confusing. For example
> the Nero 8 Ultimate web page describes a program BackItUp, but I'm not clear
> whether this is a different program, or just a component of Nero.
>
> In addition, the Nero 8 Ultimate program looks as though its designed for a
> variety of tasks far beyond my needs.
>
> I'm not worried about the price, as much as ending up with a highly complex
> and hard to use program.
>
> Please advise
>
> --
>
> PT

Alcohol120% has the options to over-ride protection devices. ClonyXXL
(freebee) will detect which, if any, device is present on the cd/dvd
and a setting on Alcohol120% will avoid it.

[neutrino]

On Jul 27, 3:24*pm, "PT" > wrote:
> I'm looking for software with which I can easily:
>
> 1. *duplicate unprotected CD's or DVD's
>
> 2. *create data file backups.
>
> I was directed to Nero 8. *But I found their website confusing. *For example
> the Nero 8 Ultimate web page describes a program BackItUp, but I'm not clear
> whether this is a different program, or just a component of Nero.
>
> In addition, the Nero 8 Ultimate program looks as though its designed for a
> variety of tasks far beyond my needs.
>
> I'm not worried about the price, as much as ending up with a highly complex
> and hard to use program.
>
> Please advise
>
> --
>
> PT

"Ashampoo Burning Studio" !!
excellent - easy to use.

[db.·.. >]

just head down to your
local computer store
and get the geek to
show what they have
and explain them to
you.


--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>


"PT" > wrote in message ...
> I'm looking for software with which I can easily:
>
> 1. duplicate unprotected CD's or DVD's
>
> 2. create data file backups.
>
> I was directed to Nero 8. But I found their website confusing. For example the Nero 8 Ultimate web page describes a program
> BackItUp, but I'm not clear whether this is a different program, or just a component of Nero.
>
> In addition, the Nero 8 Ultimate program looks as though its designed for a variety of tasks far beyond my needs.
>
> I'm not worried about the price, as much as ending up with a highly complex and hard to use program.
>
> Please advise
>
> --
>
> PT
>

[Howard]

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:24:57 -0700, "PT" > wrotG:

>I'm looking for software with which I can easily:
>
>1. duplicate unprotected CD's or DVD's
>
>2. create data file backups.
>
>I was directed to Nero 8. But I found their website confusing. For example
>the Nero 8 Ultimate web page describes a program BackItUp, but I'm not clear
>whether this is a different program, or just a component of Nero.
>
>In addition, the Nero 8 Ultimate program looks as though its designed for a
>variety of tasks far beyond my needs.
>
>I'm not worried about the price, as much as ending up with a highly complex
>and hard to use program.
>
>Please advise

Nero 8 will create copies of unprotected CDs and DVDs. It will not be
able to copy commercial DVDs because of the copy protection used on
them unless you have additional software to bypass the encryption.
Nero 8 will also allow you to select folders and/or files and copy
them to a data DVD. The basic Nero Burning Rom component does this.
If you want to do something fancier, such as creating an image of your
boot disk for restore purposes or doing an automatic backup, then Nero
is not the product you should use.

I am running Nero 7 and recommend it over Nero 8. The user interface
on 7 is much easier to deal with than 8. Roxio is an alternative to
Nero and pretty much does the same thing. I also have Alcohol and do
not recommend it for your purposes. Alcohol is good for decoding
certain compressed DVD images and creating a virtual drive to view the
image.

On both Nero and Roxio if all you really want to do is the two things
you posted, save yourself some money and look on the web for the older
versions. The new versions are more complex and have features to deal
with high definition and ipods and such. Do a google search for Nero
7 and you will find some really cheap deals on the older versions.

-- Howard

[John John (MVP)]

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[Doug W.]

It is possible that he is handicapped and has to use a stylus to
key in the postings. If that is the case, I guess that we can
forgive the short line length.

Doug W.
-

"John John (MVP)" > wrote in message
...
> g
> e
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>
> y
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> u
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>
> l
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>
>
> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
>
>> just head down to your
>> local computer store
>> and get the geek to
>> show what they have
>> and explain them to
>> you.
>>

[Bill in Co.]

He has never admited to that, though. So I'm not so sure.

Doug W. wrote:
> It is possible that he is handicapped and has to use a stylus to
> key in the postings. If that is the case, I guess that we can
> forgive the short line length.
>
> Doug W.
> -
>
> "John John (MVP)" > wrote in message
> ...
>> g
>> e
>> e,
>>
>> y
>> o
>> u
>> r
>>
>> l
>> i
>> n
>> e
>> s
>>
>> a
>> r
>> e
>>
>> g
>> e
>> t
>> t
>> i
>> n
>> g
>>
>> s
>> h
>> o
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>> r
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>> a
>> n
>> d
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>> s
>> h
>> o
>> r
>> t
>> e
>> r.
>>
>>
>> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
>>
>>> just head down to your
>>> local computer store
>>> and get the geek to
>>> show what they have
>>> and explain them to
>>> you.

[Bill in Co.]

L
O
L

John John (MVP) wrote:
> g
> e
> e,
>
> y
> o
> u
> r
>
> l
> i
> n
> e
> s
>
> a
> r
> e
>
> g
> e
> t
> t
> i
> n
> g
>
> s
> h
> o
> r
> t
> e
> r
>
> a
> n
> d
>
> s
> h
> o
> r
> t
> e
> r.
>
>
> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
>
>> just head down to your
>> local computer store
>> and get the geek to
>> show what they have
>> and explain them to
>> you.

[db.·.. >]

the time you have taken to
provide a sense of
understanding is appreciated.

however, after a number of
years here, i recommend to
reserve your time, compassion
and explanations for those
who are in need of assistance.

for cases such as these
involving mvp's who are not
qualified as professionals, it
is simply better not to
patronize their
unprofessionalism and
unwarranted remarks - no need
to feed them.

you see my friend, MVP is
really a Microsoft Volunteer
Program. MVP is not a
credential. it is simply a
general ledger account where
microsoft can calculate the
cost's they saved from not
paying for customer service.

i too could become a Microsoft
Volunteer and have a phony
credential provided, that is
if i wanted.

but i wouldn't take part in an
organization that allows and
permits the use of fear
mongering, manipulation and
antagonization. you may not
be aware but a few years ago,
bad MVP's group together like
a pack of dogs and verbally
attack people. today it is
much better now a days.

however, i do enjoy helping
people for free, during my
free time and without an ego
to serve.

you might enjoy this newsgroup
experience by simply placing
these mvp's and any others who
are just as antagonizing,
manipulative and egoistical on
your kill file.

in doing so you will not miss
anything of value from these
people and you will really
enjoy the q&a here.

in closing, as i have told
other mvp's, they are welcome
to tell the mvp administrators
to have the newsgroup rules
modified because of my
postings. i have
communicated with the MVP
program directors as well and
we seem to communicate quite
well.

until then i am within the
rules and regulations here,
unfortunately for the these so
called professionals.



--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

"Doug W." <stand@attention>
wrote in message
...
> It is possible that he is
> handicapped and has to use a
> stylus to key in the
> postings. If that is the
> case, I guess that we can
> forgive the short line
> length.
>
> Doug W.
> -
>
> "John John (MVP)"
> >
> wrote in message
> ...
>> g
>> e
>> e,
>>
>> y
>> o
>> u
>> r
>>
>> l
>> i
>> n
>> e
>> s
>>
>> a
>> r
>> e
>>
>> g
>> e
>> t
>> t
>> i
>> n
>> g
>>
>> s
>> h
>> o
>> r
>> t
>> e
>> r
>>
>> a
>> n
>> d
>>
>> s
>> h
>> o
>> r
>> t
>> e
>> r.
>>
>>
>> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. .
>> wrote:
>>
>>> just head down to your
>>> local computer store
>>> and get the geek to
>>> show what they have
>>> and explain them to
>>> you.
>>>

[db.·.. >]

btw: i should have mentioned
that there are a number of
knowledgeable professionals
who post on these newsgroups
and some of them "are" mvp's
whom i know would assist even
without an ego to feed.

--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

"Doug W." <stand@attention>
wrote in message
...
> It is possible that he is
> handicapped and has to use a
> stylus to key in the
> postings. If that is the
> case, I guess that we can
> forgive the short line
> length.
>
> Doug W.
> -
>
> "John John (MVP)"
> >
> wrote in message
> ...
>> g
>> e
>> e,
>>
>> y
>> o
>> u
>> r
>>
>> l
>> i
>> n
>> e
>> s
>>
>> a
>> r
>> e
>>
>> g
>> e
>> t
>> t
>> i
>> n
>> g
>>
>> s
>> h
>> o
>> r
>> t
>> e
>> r
>>
>> a
>> n
>> d
>>
>> s
>> h
>> o
>> r
>> t
>> e
>> r.
>>
>>
>> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. .
>> wrote:
>>
>>> just head down to your
>>> local computer store
>>> and get the geek to
>>> show what they have
>>> and explain them to
>>> you.
>>>

[Bill in Co.]

This takes the cake for being egotistical, but not too surprisingly, though.
(Usually the ones who "doth protest too much" .. have something else to
worry about (like: a bit of projection, and missing their own reflection)

'nuff said.

> the time you have taken to
> provide a sense of
> understanding is appreciated.
>
> however, after a number of
> years here, i recommend to
> reserve your time, compassion
> and explanations for those
> who are in need of assistance.
>
> for cases such as these
> involving mvp's who are not
> qualified as professionals, it
> is simply better not to
> patronize their
> unprofessionalism and
> unwarranted remarks - no need
> to feed them.
>
> you see my friend, MVP is
> really a Microsoft Volunteer
> Program. MVP is not a
> credential. it is simply a
> general ledger account where
> microsoft can calculate the
> cost's they saved from not
> paying for customer service.
>
> i too could become a Microsoft
> Volunteer and have a phony
> credential provided, that is
> if i wanted.
>
> but i wouldn't take part in an
> organization that allows and
> permits the use of fear
> mongering, manipulation and
> antagonization. you may not
> be aware but a few years ago,
> bad MVP's group together like
> a pack of dogs and verbally
> attack people. today it is
> much better now a days.
>
> however, i do enjoy helping
> people for free, during my
> free time and without an ego
> to serve.
>
> you might enjoy this newsgroup
> experience by simply placing
> these mvp's and any others who
> are just as antagonizing,
> manipulative and egoistical on
> your kill file.
>
> in doing so you will not miss
> anything of value from these
> people and you will really
> enjoy the q&a here.
>
> in closing, as i have told
> other mvp's, they are welcome
> to tell the mvp administrators
> to have the newsgroup rules
> modified because of my
> postings. i have
> communicated with the MVP
> program directors as well and
> we seem to communicate quite
> well.
>
> until then i am within the
> rules and regulations here,
> unfortunately for the these so
> called professionals.
>
>
>
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>
> "Doug W." <stand@attention>
> wrote in message
> ...
>> It is possible that he is
>> handicapped and has to use a
>> stylus to key in the
>> postings. If that is the
>> case, I guess that we can
>> forgive the short line
>> length.
>>
>> Doug W.
>> -
>>
>> "John John (MVP)"
>> >
>> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> g
>>> e
>>> e,
>>>
>>> y
>>> o
>>> u
>>> r
>>>
>>> l
>>> i
>>> n
>>> e
>>> s
>>>
>>> a
>>> r
>>> e
>>>
>>> g
>>> e
>>> t
>>> t
>>> i
>>> n
>>> g
>>>
>>> s
>>> h
>>> o
>>> r
>>> t
>>> e
>>> r
>>>
>>> a
>>> n
>>> d
>>>
>>> s
>>> h
>>> o
>>> r
>>> t
>>> e
>>> r.
>>>
>>>
>>> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. .
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> just head down to your
>>>> local computer store
>>>> and get the geek to
>>>> show what they have
>>>> and explain them to
>>>> you.

[Bill in Co.]

"Doug W." <stand@attention>
> wrote in message
> ...
> It is possible that he is
> handicapped and has to use a
> stylus to key in the
> postings. If that is the
> case, I guess that we can
> forgive the short line
> length.
>
> Doug W.

THAT has NEVER been established (or much less, even acknowledged), by the
OP, Doug. So you're just speculating.

IF it were indeed the case, HE would have the courage to admit it when asked
about it (in which case, it would be understandable). But the FACT is, he
has never admitted that. So, I think that pretty well addresses the
validity of such a speculation.

[Twayne[_2_]]

Idiotic x-post & waste of ether removed.
If it bothers you, don't read it. I normally ignore him (and you)
but occasionally if I have the time to waste I'll take a look at them
just for the entertainment value.
But no one is forcing you to read anything here; give it a pass and
go on; don't just engage your own bit of projection and ego at least.


> This takes the cake for being egotistical, but not too surprisingly,
> though. (Usually the ones who "doth protest too much" .. have
> something else to worry about (like: a bit of projection, and missing
> their own reflection)
> 'nuff said.
>
>> the time you have taken to
>> provide a sense of
>> understanding is appreciated.
>>
>> however, after a number of
>> years here, i recommend to
>> reserve your time, compassion
>> and explanations for those
>> who are in need of assistance.
>>
>> for cases such as these
>> involving mvp's who are not
>> qualified as professionals, it
>> is simply better not to
>> patronize their
>> unprofessionalism and
>> unwarranted remarks - no need
>> to feed them.
>>
>> you see my friend, MVP is
>> really a Microsoft Volunteer
>> Program. MVP is not a
>> credential. it is simply a
>> general ledger account where
>> microsoft can calculate the
>> cost's they saved from not
>> paying for customer service.
>>
>> i too could become a Microsoft
>> Volunteer and have a phony
>> credential provided, that is
>> if i wanted.
>>
>> but i wouldn't take part in an
>> organization that allows and
>> permits the use of fear
>> mongering, manipulation and
>> antagonization. you may not
>> be aware but a few years ago,
>> bad MVP's group together like
>> a pack of dogs and verbally
>> attack people. today it is
>> much better now a days.
>>
>> however, i do enjoy helping
>> people for free, during my
>> free time and without an ego
>> to serve.
>>
>> you might enjoy this newsgroup
>> experience by simply placing
>> these mvp's and any others who
>> are just as antagonizing,
>> manipulative and egoistical on
>> your kill file.
>>
>> in doing so you will not miss
>> anything of value from these
>> people and you will really
>> enjoy the q&a here.
>>
>> in closing, as i have told
>> other mvp's, they are welcome
>> to tell the mvp administrators
>> to have the newsgroup rules
>> modified because of my
>> postings. i have
>> communicated with the MVP
>> program directors as well and
>> we seem to communicate quite
>> well.
>>
>> until then i am within the
>> rules and regulations here,
>> unfortunately for the these so
>> called professionals.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>>
>> "Doug W." <stand@attention>
>> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> It is possible that he is
>>> handicapped and has to use a
>>> stylus to key in the
>>> postings. If that is the
>>> case, I guess that we can
>>> forgive the short line
>>> length.
>>>
>>> Doug W.
>>> -
>>>
>>> "John John (MVP)"
>>> >
>>> wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> g
>>>> e
>>>> e,
>>>>
>>>> y
>>>> o
>>>> u
>>>> r
>>>>
>>>> l
>>>> i
>>>> n
>>>> e
>>>> s
>>>>
>>>> a
>>>> r
>>>> e
>>>>
>>>> g
>>>> e
>>>> t
>>>> t
>>>> i
>>>> n
>>>> g
>>>>
>>>> s
>>>> h
>>>> o
>>>> r
>>>> t
>>>> e
>>>> r
>>>>
>>>> a
>>>> n
>>>> d
>>>>
>>>> s
>>>> h
>>>> o
>>>> r
>>>> t
>>>> e
>>>> r.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. .
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> just head down to your
>>>>> local computer store
>>>>> and get the geek to
>>>>> show what they have
>>>>> and explain them to
>>>>> you.

[Doug W.]

"Bill in Co." > wrote in message
...
> "Doug W." <stand@attention>
>> wrote in message
>> ...
>> It is possible that he is
>> handicapped and has to use a
>> stylus to key in the
>> postings. If that is the
>> case, I guess that we can
>> forgive the short line
>> length.
>>
>> Doug W.
>
> THAT has NEVER been established (or much less, even
> acknowledged), by the OP, Doug. So you're just speculating.
>
> IF it were indeed the case, HE would have the courage to admit
> it when asked about it (in which case, it would be
> understandable). But the FACT is, he has never admitted
> that. So, I think that pretty well addresses the validity of
> such a speculation.
>
Perhaps, if he set his line length on his outgoing messages to
at least 64 characters and use his SHIFT key to capitalize at
least one or two or three of the "i"s that he frequently uses,
we would recognize that his ability to communicate was slightly
above the newbie level.
-
Doug W.
-

[WindPipe[_3_]]

"Bill in Co." > wrote in message
...
> "Doug W." <stand@attention>
>> wrote in message
>> ...
>> It is possible that he is
>> handicapped and has to use a
>> stylus to key in the
>> postings. If that is the
>> case, I guess that we can
>> forgive the short line
>> length.
>>
>> Doug W.
>
> THAT has NEVER been established (or much less, even acknowledged), by the
> OP, Doug. So you're just speculating.
>
> IF it were indeed the case, HE would have the courage to admit it when
> asked about it (in which case, it would be understandable). But the FACT
> is, he has never admitted that. So, I think that pretty well addresses
> the validity of such a speculation.
>

In that case I guess it would be OK to call him 'The Scroll', I do more of
that reading his posts than actual reading. Plus I can't pronounce his name
(moniker, tag, ...).

- WindPipe

[WindPipe[_3_]]

but, ... but, ... you are giving more to an organisation by buying it's
products than you are by assisting volunteers of that organisation. The
everyday, or day to day Windows XP users (consumers?) would gain as much as
Microsoft would by the assistance the MVPs here provide.

Also, "...ego is not a dirty word..." - Skyhooks.

- WindPipe

" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote
in message ...
> the time you have taken to provide a sense of understanding is
> appreciated.
>
> however, after a number of years here, i recommend to reserve your time,
> compassion and explanations for those
> who are in need of assistance.
>
> for cases such as these involving mvp's who are not qualified as
> professionals, it is simply better not to patronize their
> unprofessionalism and unwarranted remarks - no need to feed them.
>
> you see my friend, MVP is really a Microsoft Volunteer Program. MVP is
> not a credential. it is simply a general ledger account where microsoft
> can calculate the cost's they saved from not paying for customer service.
>
> i too could become a Microsoft Volunteer and have a phony credential
> provided, that is if i wanted.
>
> but i wouldn't take part in an organization that allows and permits the
> use of fear mongering, manipulation and antagonization. you may not be
> aware but a few years ago, bad MVP's group together like a pack of dogs
> and verbally attack people. today it is much better now a days.
>
> however, i do enjoy helping people for free, during my free time and
> without an ego to serve.
>
> you might enjoy this newsgroup experience by simply placing these mvp's
> and any others who are just as antagonizing, manipulative and egoistical
> on your kill file.
>
> in doing so you will not miss anything of value from these people and you
> will really enjoy the q&a here.
>
> in closing, as i have told other mvp's, they are welcome to tell the mvp
> administrators to have the newsgroup rules modified because of my
> postings. i have communicated with the MVP program directors as well and
> we seem to communicate quite well.
>
> until then i am within the rules and regulations here, unfortunately for
> the these so called professionals.
>
>
>
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>
> "Doug W." <stand@attention> wrote in message
> ...
>> It is possible that he is handicapped and has to use a stylus to key in
>> the postings. If that is the case, I guess that we can forgive the short
>> line length.
>>
>> Doug W.
>> -
>>
>> "John John (MVP)" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> g
>>> e
>>> e,
>>>
>>> y
>>> o
>>> u
>>> r
>>>
>>> l
>>> i
>>> n
>>> e
>>> s
>>>
>>> a
>>> r
>>> e
>>>
>>> g
>>> e
>>> t
>>> t
>>> i
>>> n
>>> g
>>>
>>> s
>>> h
>>> o
>>> r
>>> t
>>> e
>>> r
>>>
>>> a
>>> n
>>> d
>>>
>>> s
>>> h
>>> o
>>> r
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>>> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
>>>
>>>> just head down to your
>>>> local computer store
>>>> and get the geek to
>>>> show what they have
>>>> and explain them to
>>>> you.
>>>>
>

[Lil' Dave]

"PT" > wrote in message
...
> I'm looking for software with which I can easily:
>
> 1. duplicate unprotected CD's or DVD's
>

This, I suggest you mean, is any commercial CD or DVD that is NOT a game be
it PC, or whatever; or commerical pressed DVD movie. Typically its a
pressed CD or DVD written in ISO 9660 format, or perhaps a home made video
or movie. For instance, backing up your retail Office installation CD. Or
those with a boot agenda, with remainder in ISO 9660 format that you would
want to copy. For instance, backing up your retail or oem generic XP
installation CD.

> 2. create data file backups.

As long as they fit on the CD or DVD media, don't see a problem.

>
> I was directed to Nero 8. But I found their website confusing. For
> example the Nero 8 Ultimate web page describes a program BackItUp, but I'm
> not clear whether this is a different program, or just a component of
> Nero.
>
> In addition, the Nero 8 Ultimate program looks as though its designed for
> a variety of tasks far beyond my needs.
>
> I'm not worried about the price, as much as ending up with a highly
> complex and hard to use program.
>
> Please advise
>
> --
>
> PT
>

Nero was getting too complicated at version 5 for those 2 only needs you
address here. And, they've added alot along the way to make it more
difficult for the first time user with only a couple of basic needs when
using version 8.
--
Dave