Second computer

[John[_62_]]

If you have a second computer e.g. a laptop or netbook as a portable
system to your main desktop at home, are you allowed to use the Office
discs you bought for your main system on your laptop or do you have to
buy another copy? Does the license cover you to use it on a laptop as
well?

I believe that you can do this with the Photoshop stuff (Adobe CS4)
that it is permitted and the license covers one user with also a
portable system like a laptop, but that there may be issues if you
have both connected to the internet at the same time? I was just
wondering about Microsoft Office as well though.

Thanks for your advice.

John

[Leythos[_2_]]

In article >,
says...
> If you have a second computer e.g. a laptop or netbook as a portable
> system to your main desktop at home, are you allowed to use the Office
> discs you bought for your main system on your laptop or do you have to
> buy another copy? Does the license cover you to use it on a laptop as
> well?
>
> I believe that you can do this with the Photoshop stuff (Adobe CS4)
> that it is permitted and the license covers one user with also a
> portable system like a laptop, but that there may be issues if you
> have both connected to the internet at the same time? I was just
> wondering about Microsoft Office as well though.

Adobe does not allow this with PS/CS, you can verify that yourself.

Retail Office 2003 permitted Home/Office installs, but not Home/Home
installs. The idea is that you can't do it if you are able to use both
computers at the same time.

OEM licenses are not licensed for Home/Office installs.

Volume license products should be checked with the person that made your
VL purchase.

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[DDW[_2_]]

On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:31:13 +0000, John > wrote:

>If you have a second computer e.g. a laptop or netbook as a portable
>system to your main desktop at home, are you allowed to use the Office
>discs you bought for your main system on your laptop or do you have to
>buy another copy? Does the license cover you to use it on a laptop as
>well?

Not the newest versions. 2003 and earlier, I believe.

>I believe that you can do this with the Photoshop stuff (Adobe CS4)
>that it is permitted and the license covers one user with also a
>portable system like a laptop, but that there may be issues if you
>have both connected to the internet at the same time?

Definitely NOT Adobe CS4.


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[DL]

It depends on the version of Office
In general a retail version of Office 2007 can be installed on 1 desktop &
portable device for use by the same user.
The EULA will tell you, any way nothing to do with Win

"John" > wrote in message
...
> If you have a second computer e.g. a laptop or netbook as a portable
> system to your main desktop at home, are you allowed to use the Office
> discs you bought for your main system on your laptop or do you have to
> buy another copy? Does the license cover you to use it on a laptop as
> well?
>
> I believe that you can do this with the Photoshop stuff (Adobe CS4)
> that it is permitted and the license covers one user with also a
> portable system like a laptop, but that there may be issues if you
> have both connected to the internet at the same time? I was just
> wondering about Microsoft Office as well though.
>
> Thanks for your advice.
>
> John
>
>

[Leythos[_2_]]

In article >, WaIIy@
(nft).invalid says...
> Office 2007 Home and Student allows three home use computers on one
> license.
>

Thanks for the info - I've never used Student Editions because of the
limitations.

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[roger]

Your best choice is OpenOffice. It's free and fully compatible with MS
Office.

John wrote:
> If you have a second computer e.g. a laptop or netbook as a portable
> system to your main desktop at home, are you allowed to use the Office
> discs you bought for your main system on your laptop or do you have to
> buy another copy? Does the license cover you to use it on a laptop as
> well?
>
> I believe that you can do this with the Photoshop stuff (Adobe CS4)
> that it is permitted and the license covers one user with also a
> portable system like a laptop, but that there may be issues if you
> have both connected to the internet at the same time? I was just
> wondering about Microsoft Office as well though.
>
> Thanks for your advice.
>
> John
>
>

[Shenan Stanley]

John wrote:
> If you have a second computer e.g. a laptop or netbook as a portable
> system to your main desktop at home, are you allowed to use the
> Office discs you bought for your main system on your laptop or do
> you have to buy another copy? Does the license cover you to use it
> on a laptop as well?
>
> I believe that you can do this with the Photoshop stuff (Adobe CS4)
> that it is permitted and the license covers one user with also a
> portable system like a laptop, but that there may be issues if you
> have both connected to the internet at the same time? I was just
> wondering about Microsoft Office as well though.

Roger wrote:
> Your best choice is OpenOffice. It's free and fully compatible
> with MS Office.

I have *nothing* against OpenOffice; however Roger's second statement is not
completely accurate.

I believe you can open Microsoft Office 2007's documents - but you cannot
save in native Microsoft Office 2007 formats. Also - Open Office (I
believe) has similar issues to using the Microsoft Compatibility pack on
older versions of Microsoft Office (2003/XP) and opening Microsoft Office
2007 documents with the formatting being 'sometimes off'.

Having said that - there is nothing wrong with exclusively using OpenOffice,
it really is a great application considering that it is free to use. Just
know you may run into little issues here and there if trading
documents/spreadsheets/presentations with those using Microsoft Office 2007
native format.

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[Leythos[_2_]]

In article >,
says...
> Your best choice is OpenOffice. It's free and fully compatible with MS
> Office.

If the person is using MS Office then Open Office is not viable for more
than just crude documents.

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[Alias[_28_]]

Leythos wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>> Your best choice is OpenOffice. It's free and fully compatible with MS
>> Office.
>
> If the person is using MS Office then Open Office is not viable for more
> than just crude documents.
>

Off topic and reported.

Alias

[Alias[_28_]]

John wrote:
> If you have a second computer e.g. a laptop or netbook as a portable
> system to your main desktop at home, are you allowed to use the Office
> discs you bought for your main system on your laptop or do you have to
> buy another copy? Does the license cover you to use it on a laptop as
> well?
>
> I believe that you can do this with the Photoshop stuff (Adobe CS4)
> that it is permitted and the license covers one user with also a
> portable system like a laptop, but that there may be issues if you
> have both connected to the internet at the same time? I was just
> wondering about Microsoft Office as well though.
>
> Thanks for your advice.
>
> John
>
>

To find out the real answer, read the EULA that came with your version
of Office. You can find the EULA by opening any office program and going
to Help/About.

Alias

[Leythos[_2_]]

In article >,
says...
> Leythos wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >> Your best choice is OpenOffice. It's free and fully compatible with MS
> >> Office.
> >
> > If the person is using MS Office then Open Office is not viable for more
> > than just crude documents.
> >
>
> Off topic and reported.

The comment that sourced my reply was off-topic, not mine.

As you can see, my reply indicated that Open Office is not a good
replacement for MS Office, while is clearly on topic.

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[Alias[_28_]]

Leythos wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>> Leythos wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>> Your best choice is OpenOffice. It's free and fully compatible with MS
>>>> Office.
>>> If the person is using MS Office then Open Office is not viable for more
>>> than just crude documents.
>>>
>> Off topic and reported.
>
> The comment that sourced my reply was off-topic, not mine.
>
> As you can see, my reply indicated that Open Office is not a good
> replacement for MS Office, while is clearly on topic.
>

In an XP group? Dance, Leythos, dance.

Alias

[Ian D]

"Leythos" > wrote in message
om...
> In article >, WaIIy@
> (nft).invalid says...
>> Office 2007 Home and Student allows three home use computers on one
>> license.
>>
>
> Thanks for the info - I've never used Student Editions because of the
> limitations.
>
> --
> - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
> - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
> drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
> (remove 999 for proper email address)

The 2007 Home & Student version is not just for students. It's for
any non-commercial use. The only limitation is that it no longer
includes Outlook., but it does have One-Note. There's even a
Que book for Office 2007 H&S.

[Leythos[_2_]]

In article >,
says...
>
> "Leythos" > wrote in message
> om...
> > In article >, WaIIy@
> > (nft).invalid says...
> >> Office 2007 Home and Student allows three home use computers on one
> >> license.
> >>
> >
> > Thanks for the info - I've never used Student Editions because of the
> > limitations.
> >
>
> The 2007 Home & Student version is not just for students. It's for
> any non-commercial use. The only limitation is that it no longer
> includes Outlook., but it does have One-Note. There's even a
> Que book for Office 2007 H&S.

I can't imagine not having the power of MS Outlook, but at a savings of
$100 I guess I can understand it vs Standard OEM - the extra
licenses/installs tend to seem to make it worth it.

So, office 2007 HS (Word, PP, Excel) for $150 retail and the ability to
install on 3 computers, doesn't look bad except for the home/non-
commercial use limit.

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[DDW[_2_]]

On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:46:52 -0600, DDW
> wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:31:13 +0000, John > wrote:
>
>>If you have a second computer e.g. a laptop or netbook as a portable
>>system to your main desktop at home, are you allowed to use the Office
>>discs you bought for your main system on your laptop or do you have to
>>buy another copy? Does the license cover you to use it on a laptop as
>>well?
>
>Not the newest versions. 2003 and earlier, I believe.

CORRECTION: one can install ver. 2007 on two computers - presumably
one being a desktop the other a notebook.

>>I believe that you can do this with the Photoshop stuff (Adobe CS4)
>>that it is permitted and the license covers one user with also a
>>portable system like a laptop, but that there may be issues if you
>>have both connected to the internet at the same time?
>
>Definitely NOT Adobe CS4.
>
>
>DDW

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[Frank-FL]

"John" > wrote in message
...
> If you have a second computer e.g. a laptop or netbook as
> a portable
> system to your main desktop at home, are you allowed to
> use the Office
> discs you bought for your main system on your laptop or do
> you have to
> buy another copy? Does the license cover you to use it on
> a laptop as
> well?
>
> I believe that you can do this with the Photoshop stuff
> (Adobe CS4)
> that it is permitted and the license covers one user with
> also a
> portable system like a laptop, but that there may be
> issues if you
> have both connected to the internet at the same time? I
> was just
> wondering about Microsoft Office as well though.
>
> Thanks for your advice.
>
> John

This is what my Office users license states for home and
student. Look for your license agreement.

2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. Before you use the
software under a license, you must assign that license to a
device. That device is a "licensed device." A hardware
partition or blade is considered to be a separate device.
a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the
software on three licensed devices in your household for use
by people who reside there. The software is not licensed
for use in any commercial, non-profit, or revenue-generating
business activities.
b. Separation of Components. The components of the software
are licensed as a single unit. You may not separate the
components and install them on different devices.

[John[_62_]]

Thanks for the advice.

I believe it is 2003 version of Office that I have so that is useful
to know and saves me a bit of money!

CS4 though it looks like it will just have to go on the laptop. I was
advised differently on DP Review some time ago and had been under the
impression that you could do it as long as both systems weren't on at
the same time or connected to the net at the same time, but I'm just
going to stick it on the laptop anyway.

[John[_62_]]

On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 04:03:11 +0000, John > wrote:

>Thanks for the advice.
>
>I believe it is 2003 version of Office that I have so that is useful
>to know and saves me a bit of money!
>
>CS4 though it looks like it will just have to go on the laptop. I was
>advised differently on DP Review some time ago and had been under the
>impression that you could do it as long as both systems weren't on at
>the same time or connected to the net at the same time, but I'm just
>going to stick it on the laptop anyway.

Just been installing Adobe CS4 Design Premium on the Laptop and
reading the EULA it looks like you can have it on Laptop and Desktop
for home users as long as both are not in use at the same time its all
in section 2.4:

2.4 Portable or Home Computers Use. Subject to the important
restrictions set forth in section 2.5, the primary user of the
computer on which the software is installed under section 2.1
("Primary User") may install a second copy of the software for his or
her exclusive use on either a portable computer or a computer located
at his or her home, provided that the software on the portable or home
computer is not used at the same time as the software on the primary
computer. You may be required to contact Adobe in order to make a
second copy.