Yea almost

[Terry]

I reformated my PC XP SP3. First problem was required logins, including
ADMINISTRATOR. Lots of suggestions from the newsgroup which almost got me
there. Some suggested 3rd party software (why do/did I need s/w to fix
something that wasn't broken before) and finally someone suggested Tweak UI
( unsupported MS s/w). But UI worked. Again why did even need to do
something after setting my PC back to where it was in the start place. Now I
just hope my laptop can see this PC.

So here is my almost. I now get a window open upon starting. It is a
folder ( in my day a directory) called Microsoft and the only in it is
another folder called Office Live. I assume it is because I installed
Office 2007. I've looked in all the start folders I have found and can't
figure out how to stop that autoload. Any suggestions?

PS - I'm old. I started with computers when programers wrote code that could
be run on 64K. Now 64K won't even handle a period symbol (that requires a
DLL of 64MB)!!!

Terry

[VanguardLH[_2_]]

Terry wrote:

> I reformated my PC XP SP3. First problem was required logins, including
> ADMINISTRATOR. Lots of suggestions from the newsgroup which almost got me
> there. Some suggested 3rd party software (why do/did I need s/w to fix
> something that wasn't broken before) and finally someone suggested Tweak UI
> ( unsupported MS s/w). But UI worked. Again why did even need to do
> something after setting my PC back to where it was in the start place. Now I
> just hope my laptop can see this PC.
>
> So here is my almost. I now get a window open upon starting. It is a
> folder ( in my day a directory) called Microsoft and the only in it is
> another folder called Office Live. I assume it is because I installed
> Office 2007. I've looked in all the start folders I have found and can't
> figure out how to stop that autoload. Any suggestions?
>
> PS - I'm old. I started with computers when programers wrote code that could
> be run on 64K. Now 64K won't even handle a period symbol (that requires a
> DLL of 64MB)!!!
>
> Terry

Subject: Yea almost.
Answer: Nowhere close (to a good Subject header).

You might be the only one that knows what you are talking about. You
certainly didn't tell anyone WHAT were the problems. Age is not an
excuse. If you are having multiple problems, start a separate thread
for each one.

ALWAYS REVIEW your message before submitting it. You want someone ELSE
to understand your post other than just yourself.

Usually you get one chance per potential respondent to elicit a reply
from them. If they skip your post because you gave them nothing to go
on (no details, no versions, no context), usually they will just move on
to the next post and never return to yours. Go read:

What is Usenet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroups
http://www.masonicinfo.com/newsgroups.htm
http://www.mcfedries.com/Ramblings/usenet-primer.asp

How to post to newsgroups:
http://66.39.69.143/goodpost.htm
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
http://users.tpg.com.au/bzyhjr/liszt.html
http://www.mugsy.org/asa_faq/getting_along/usenet.shtml

Regarding error messages:
- Do NOT describe an error message.
- Do NOT summarize an error message.
- Do NOT paraphrase an error message.
- Do NOT truncate an error message.
- Do show the ENTIRE message (but munge/star out personal info,
like your username).

[Jim[_30_]]

"Terry" > wrote in message
...
>I reformated my PC XP SP3. First problem was required logins, including
>ADMINISTRATOR. Lots of suggestions from the newsgroup which almost got me
>there. Some suggested 3rd party software (why do/did I need s/w to fix
>something that wasn't broken before) and finally someone suggested Tweak UI
>( unsupported MS s/w). But UI worked. Again why did even need to do
>something after setting my PC back to where it was in the start place. Now
>I just hope my laptop can see this PC.
>
> So here is my almost. I now get a window open upon starting. It is a
> folder ( in my day a directory) called Microsoft and the only in it is
> another folder called Office Live. I assume it is because I installed
> Office 2007. I've looked in all the start folders I have found and can't
> figure out how to stop that autoload. Any suggestions?
>
> PS - I'm old. I started with computers when programers wrote code that
> could be run on 64K. Now 64K won't even handle a period symbol (that
> requires a DLL of 64MB)!!!
>
> Terry
>
This is an interestingt tale, but it is a little short on details...
When you "reformat my PC XP SP3" (which I interpret as a clean install), all
of the previous information has been blown to bits.

First of all, the administrator account is built in and really should not
need further changes.
XP does not require any additional accounts, but for everyday use it is
advisable to create such additional accounts (as user accounts) as are
needed. No additional software of any kind is needed for this task.
Tweak UI is a rather comprehensive tool, but you certainly should not need
its services for the mundane task of creating accounts.

Your laptop will not see this computer until after you have the networking
setup. This setup is not performed during installation. In other words,
you have to setup the networking component yourself.

What you should see when your computer finishes booting is either a screen
with the various accounts listed or a view of the desktop. I can't explain
why you are seeing what you are seeing, but it certainly does look odd to
me.

And, PPs - the first computer I ever saw was an IBM 704. It had no such
thing as an operating system. There was a facility called IBJOB for the
709, but most people seem to think that OS/360 was the first real operating
system.

Jim

[Terry]

OK - I see the errors of my ways. The real question after all my ills, is
When I start the PC, I get an open folder called Microsoft with a folder
called Office Live. I want to stop having that folder open when I start.
I've looked at all the start folders I can find, but none of those have the
Microsoft folder as a startup option.

Thanks to all who are willing to help.



"Terry" > wrote in message
...
>I reformated my PC XP SP3. First problem was required logins, including
>ADMINISTRATOR. Lots of suggestions from the newsgroup which almost got me
>there. Some suggested 3rd party software (why do/did I need s/w to fix
>something that wasn't broken before) and finally someone suggested Tweak UI
>( unsupported MS s/w). But UI worked. Again why did even need to do
>something after setting my PC back to where it was in the start place. Now
>I just hope my laptop can see this PC.
>
> So here is my almost. I now get a window open upon starting. It is a
> folder ( in my day a directory) called Microsoft and the only in it is
> another folder called Office Live. I assume it is because I installed
> Office 2007. I've looked in all the start folders I have found and can't
> figure out how to stop that autoload. Any suggestions?
>
> PS - I'm old. I started with computers when programers wrote code that
> could be run on 64K. Now 64K won't even handle a period symbol (that
> requires a DLL of 64MB)!!!
>
> Terry
>

[Brian A.[_2_]]

"Terry" > wrote in message
...
> OK - I see the errors of my ways. The real question after all my ills, is
> When I start the PC, I get an open folder called Microsoft with a folder
> called Office Live. I want to stop having that folder open when I start.
> I've looked at all the start folders I can find, but none of those have
> the Microsoft folder as a startup option.
>
> Thanks to all who are willing to help.
>

If you want to stop programs from loading on boot there are several ways
to accomplish it:
You should only use msconfig for troubleshooting problems, although it
could be used for stubborn programs until you find a way to disable them
otherwise.
Click Start > Run, type in: msconfig and hit enter.
Click on the Startup tab and uncheck the program you wish to disable.

Click Ok and reboot if prompted.
Or

Right click on the programs icon in the Notification Area (formally known as
the Systray in earlier OS's) to see if there is an option to disable it from
loading on boot.
Or
Open the program/s in question and check their options to see if there is a
way to disable it from loading on boot.
Or
Remove any entries from the Startup folder that you do not want to load on
boot.
Or
Look in the Registry under these keys to either remove the entry or comment
it out to disable it from loading on boot:
Start > Run, type in: regedit and hit enter. Navigate to the following keys:
hkey_current_user\software\microsoft\windows\curre nt version\run
hkey_current_user\software\microsoft\windows\curre nt version\RunOnce
hkey_local_machine\software\microsoft\windows\curr ent version\run
hkey_local_machine\software\microsoft\windows\curr ent version\RunOnce
hkey_local_machine\software\microsoft\windows\curr ent version\RunOnceEx
hkey_local_machine\software\microsoft\windows\curr ent version\RunServices
hkey_local_machine\software\microsoft\windows\curr ent
version\RunServicesOnce


Remove the entire entry in a key by right clicking in the right pane on the
data name in the Name column, click Delete in the popup menu, confirm
deletion and close regedit.
Always backup the registry or any key before making any changes so that you
may import the keys back in should anything go wrong. Haphazardly removing
keys in the registry is very dangerous and can render your system useless.
Be 100% sure of what you are doing and what you remove can be done safely.

How to back up, edit, and restore the registry in Windows XP and Windows
Server 2003

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322756/en-us

Description of the Microsoft Windows registry
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/256986/en-us
--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop Experience }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

[VanguardLH[_2_]]

Terry wrote:

> When I start the PC, I get an open folder called Microsoft with a
> folder called Office Live. I want to stop having that folder open
> when I start. I've looked at all the start folders I can find, but
> none of those have the Microsoft folder as a startup option.

Did you recently install or uninstall some software after which this
folder appears (which I presume means you see Windows Explorer open and
navigate to a specific folder that is the same one each time you boot)?
Did you recently attempt to disinfect your host of malware? Either can
result in an incomplete entry in the registry. It might've supposed to
look like:

<path>\<someprogram> <somefolder>

But got truncated by an incomplete install, incomplete uninstall, some
registry cleaner, or malware disinfection to now look like:

<somefolder>

Since just the folder is now specified, Windows Explorer loads to show
it. There are many startup locations in the registry, logon scripts,
and even scheduled tasks (that run on login) where this problem could
exist. Does this problem still exist if you boot Windows' into its Safe
Mode?

msconfig.exe shows some of the common startup locations. You could look
there for what appears to be an incomplete command line (i.e., no
program is specified, just a path which used to be a parameter). If it
isn't evident which one is the truncated entry, just disable them and
reboot Windows into its normal mode. If the problem went away, one of
those disabled items is at fault.

SysInternals' (acquired by Microsoft but http://www.sysinternals.com/
still works) has their AutoRuns utility that shows all the startup
locations (and, I believe, you could even do a search on the folder
name).

[Twayne[_2_]]

Brian A. wrote:
> "Terry" > wrote in message
> ...
....

> Or
> Look in the Registry under these keys to either remove the entry or
> *comment it out* to disable it from loading on boot:

....
Brian,

You mentioned something I'm curious about: How do you "comment out" a
key in the Registry? I wasn't aware it could be done.

Regards,

Twayne

[Brian A.[_2_]]

"Twayne" > wrote in message
...
> Brian A. wrote:
>> "Terry" > wrote in message
>> ...
> ...
>
>> Or
>> Look in the Registry under these keys to either remove the entry or
>> *comment it out* to disable it from loading on boot:
>
> ...
> Brian,
>
> You mentioned something I'm curious about: How do you "comment out" a key
> in the Registry? I wasn't aware it could be done.
>
> Regards,
>
> Twayne
>
>

That is from my Win98 days and I haven't tried it on XP although I will
just to see. I missed seeing it and failed to remove/delete it from my
standard blurb when I edited it for XP.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop Experience }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

[Bill in Co.]

Twayne wrote:
> Brian A. wrote:
>> "Terry" > wrote in message
>> ...
> ...
>
>> Or
>> Look in the Registry under these keys to either remove the entry or
>> *comment it out* to disable it from loading on boot:
>
> ...
> Brian,
>
> You mentioned something I'm curious about: How do you "comment out" a
> key in the Registry? I wasn't aware it could be done.
>
> Regards,
>
> Twayne

I've done something which effectively accomplishes the same purpose: rename
the key to something I can flag (but obviously then deactivates it).

[Kelly]

Check here:
http://blogs.technet.com/arykhus/archive/2009/01/26/get-started-with-office-live-add-in-window-keeps-popping-up-after-first-startup-of-word-excel-powerpoint-2007.aspx

--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Terry" > wrote in message
...
> OK - I see the errors of my ways. The real question after all my ills, is
> When I start the PC, I get an open folder called Microsoft with a folder
> called Office Live. I want to stop having that folder open when I start.
> I've looked at all the start folders I can find, but none of those have
> the Microsoft folder as a startup option.
>
> Thanks to all who are willing to help.
>
>
>
> "Terry" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I reformated my PC XP SP3. First problem was required logins, including
>>ADMINISTRATOR. Lots of suggestions from the newsgroup which almost got me
>>there. Some suggested 3rd party software (why do/did I need s/w to fix
>>something that wasn't broken before) and finally someone suggested Tweak
>>UI ( unsupported MS s/w). But UI worked. Again why did even need to do
>>something after setting my PC back to where it was in the start place. Now
>>I just hope my laptop can see this PC.
>>
>> So here is my almost. I now get a window open upon starting. It is a
>> folder ( in my day a directory) called Microsoft and the only in it is
>> another folder called Office Live. I assume it is because I installed
>> Office 2007. I've looked in all the start folders I have found and can't
>> figure out how to stop that autoload. Any suggestions?
>>
>> PS - I'm old. I started with computers when programers wrote code that
>> could be run on 64K. Now 64K won't even handle a period symbol (that
>> requires a DLL of 64MB)!!!
>>
>> Terry
>>
>
>

[Terry]

I looked at the registry as suggested by other responses, but didn't see
anything that caught my eye. And yes the folder does open even in Safe
Mode. Went to www.sysinternals.com as suggested but didn't really see which
application might help. When I get the chance I'll register with their
forum. As for new software, I think Office 2007 was the last.

Thanks for trying to help. For now I'll just close the window after
startup.


"VanguardLH" > wrote in message
...
> Terry wrote:
>
>> When I start the PC, I get an open folder called Microsoft with a
>> folder called Office Live. I want to stop having that folder open
>> when I start. I've looked at all the start folders I can find, but
>> none of those have the Microsoft folder as a startup option.
>
> Did you recently install or uninstall some software after which this
> folder appears (which I presume means you see Windows Explorer open and
> navigate to a specific folder that is the same one each time you boot)?
> Did you recently attempt to disinfect your host of malware? Either can
> result in an incomplete entry in the registry. It might've supposed to
> look like:
>
> <path>\<someprogram> <somefolder>
>
> But got truncated by an incomplete install, incomplete uninstall, some
> registry cleaner, or malware disinfection to now look like:
>
> <somefolder>
>
> Since just the folder is now specified, Windows Explorer loads to show
> it. There are many startup locations in the registry, logon scripts,
> and even scheduled tasks (that run on login) where this problem could
> exist. Does this problem still exist if you boot Windows' into its Safe
> Mode?
>
> msconfig.exe shows some of the common startup locations. You could look
> there for what appears to be an incomplete command line (i.e., no
> program is specified, just a path which used to be a parameter). If it
> isn't evident which one is the truncated entry, just disable them and
> reboot Windows into its normal mode. If the problem went away, one of
> those disabled items is at fault.
>
> SysInternals' (acquired by Microsoft but http://www.sysinternals.com/
> still works) has their AutoRuns utility that shows all the startup
> locations (and, I believe, you could even do a search on the folder
> name).