Windows .Net Updates and SPs

[Pete B]

I recently installed some Windows XP .Net SPs and updates as provided
through the Windows Update option. How can I tell where (and if) these
updates are actually installed? The reason I ask this is because I am
usinbg an addon removable USB HDD, and after installing thgese updates, I
see these items in some temporary folders (folders with the random-type
character-string names) on the USB drive, and they are takinbg up quite a
lot of space. I was wondering if I can delete these files or not. It seems
like a strange place for Windows to install these updates, since I can just
turn off the power to that drive at any time. Earlier .net updates did not
do anything like this when I installed them, and as well, the earlier ones
show an install date for each item, these latest only show a date for the
whole update package.

The updates are listed in the Add/Remove CPL, but the list does not say
where they are actually at. I would have thought these items would be in
the C:\Windows directories somewhere, not on a removable drive. Is there
any way to check?

I turned off the power to the drive and nothing happened, but then, I don;t
know exactly how I would check to see iuf it made a difference anyway. I
could still, for example, start up VB 8 Express with no problems.

How do I check where these updates are actually installed?

--
Pete B

[Jim[_30_]]

"Pete B" > wrote in message
...
>I recently installed some Windows XP .Net SPs and updates as provided
>through the Windows Update option. How can I tell where (and if) these
>updates are actually installed? The reason I ask this is because I am
>usinbg an addon removable USB HDD, and after installing thgese updates, I
>see these items in some temporary folders (folders with the random-type
>character-string names) on the USB drive, and they are takinbg up quite a
>lot of space. I was wondering if I can delete these files or not. It
>seems like a strange place for Windows to install these updates, since I
>can just turn off the power to that drive at any time. Earlier .net
>updates did not do anything like this when I installed them, and as well,
>the earlier ones show an install date for each item, these latest only show
>a date for the whole update package.
>
> The updates are listed in the Add/Remove CPL, but the list does not say
> where they are actually at. I would have thought these items would be in
> the C:\Windows directories somewhere, not on a removable drive. Is there
> any way to check?
>
> I turned off the power to the drive and nothing happened, but then, I
> don;t know exactly how I would check to see iuf it made a difference
> anyway. I could still, for example, start up VB 8 Express with no
> problems.
>
> How do I check where these updates are actually installed?
>
> --
> Pete B
>
The quickest way to determine where any update may be located is through
using Belarc. On this system, the updates are located in a subfolder of
C:/Windows.

The folders that you found on the USB drives are temporary folders for use
by the installer. The install routine is supposed to delete them, but
sometimes it doesn't. Thus it is not necessary to keep them.

Jim

[JS]

NET Framework - Disk space requirements, Part 2
http://www.pagestart.com/netframeworkpart2.html

NET Framework 3.5 SP1 - Temporary Folder is not deleted
http://www.pagestart.com/netframework35sp1error.html

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com


"Pete B" > wrote in message
...
>I recently installed some Windows XP .Net SPs and updates as provided
>through the Windows Update option. How can I tell where (and if) these
>updates are actually installed? The reason I ask this is because I am
>usinbg an addon removable USB HDD, and after installing thgese updates, I
>see these items in some temporary folders (folders with the random-type
>character-string names) on the USB drive, and they are takinbg up quite a
>lot of space. I was wondering if I can delete these files or not. It
>seems like a strange place for Windows to install these updates, since I
>can just turn off the power to that drive at any time. Earlier .net
>updates did not do anything like this when I installed them, and as well,
>the earlier ones show an install date for each item, these latest only show
>a date for the whole update package.
>
> The updates are listed in the Add/Remove CPL, but the list does not say
> where they are actually at. I would have thought these items would be in
> the C:\Windows directories somewhere, not on a removable drive. Is there
> any way to check?
>
> I turned off the power to the drive and nothing happened, but then, I
> don;t know exactly how I would check to see iuf it made a difference
> anyway. I could still, for example, start up VB 8 Express with no
> problems.
>
> How do I check where these updates are actually installed?
>
> --
> Pete B
>

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
whether service packs have been applied
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785

Ideally, you'd unplug all USB keys (USB HDDs; Flash drives) before updating
via AU or WU as the install process will seek and use the HDD with the most
free space available. However, whatever's being installed will be installed
on the boot drive.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Pete B wrote:
> I recently installed some Windows XP .Net SPs and updates as provided
> through the Windows Update option. How can I tell where (and if) these
> updates are actually installed? The reason I ask this is because I am
> usinbg an addon removable USB HDD, and after installing thgese updates, I
> see these items in some temporary folders (folders with the random-type
> character-string names) on the USB drive, and they are takinbg up quite a
> lot of space. I was wondering if I can delete these files or not. It
> seems
> like a strange place for Windows to install these updates, since I can
> just
> turn off the power to that drive at any time. Earlier .net updates did
> not
> do anything like this when I installed them, and as well, the earlier ones
> show an install date for each item, these latest only show a date for the
> whole update package.
>
> The updates are listed in the Add/Remove CPL, but the list does not say
> where they are actually at. I would have thought these items would be in
> the C:\Windows directories somewhere, not on a removable drive. Is there
> any way to check?
>
> I turned off the power to the drive and nothing happened, but then, I
> don;t
> know exactly how I would check to see iuf it made a difference anyway. I
> could still, for example, start up VB 8 Express with no problems.
>
> How do I check where these updates are actually installed?

[Pete B]

Thanks. What is Belarc?

--
Pete B

"Jim" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Pete B" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I recently installed some Windows XP .Net SPs and updates as provided
>>through the Windows Update option. How can I tell where (and if) these
>>updates are actually installed? The reason I ask this is because I am
>>usinbg an addon removable USB HDD, and after installing thgese updates, I
>>see these items in some temporary folders (folders with the random-type
>>character-string names) on the USB drive, and they are takinbg up quite a
>>lot of space. I was wondering if I can delete these files or not. It
>>seems like a strange place for Windows to install these updates, since I
>>can just turn off the power to that drive at any time. Earlier .net
>>updates did not do anything like this when I installed them, and as well,
>>the earlier ones show an install date for each item, these latest only
>>show a date for the whole update package.
>>
>> The updates are listed in the Add/Remove CPL, but the list does not say
>> where they are actually at. I would have thought these items would be in
>> the C:\Windows directories somewhere, not on a removable drive. Is there
>> any way to check?
>>
>> I turned off the power to the drive and nothing happened, but then, I
>> don;t know exactly how I would check to see iuf it made a difference
>> anyway. I could still, for example, start up VB 8 Express with no
>> problems.
>>
>> How do I check where these updates are actually installed?
>>
>> --
>> Pete B
>>
> The quickest way to determine where any update may be located is through
> using Belarc. On this system, the updates are located in a subfolder of
> C:/Windows.
>
> The folders that you found on the USB drives are temporary folders for use
> by the installer. The install routine is supposed to delete them, but
> sometimes it doesn't. Thus it is not necessary to keep them.
>
> Jim
>

[Pete B]

Thanks to all of you. I gather I can safely remove the temp folders, that
is what I wanted to know. I will check as you folks suggest to be sure the
actual files are installed before I do so. Those two SPs mentioned are the
particular ones that had this happen.

--
Pete B

"Pete B" > wrote in message
...
>I recently installed some Windows XP .Net SPs and updates as provided
>through the Windows Update option. How can I tell where (and if) these
>updates are actually installed? The reason I ask this is because I am
>usinbg an addon removable USB HDD, and after installing thgese updates, I
>see these items in some temporary folders (folders with the random-type
>character-string names) on the USB drive, and they are takinbg up quite a
>lot of space. I was wondering if I can delete these files or not. It
>seems like a strange place for Windows to install these updates, since I
>can just turn off the power to that drive at any time. Earlier .net
>updates did not do anything like this when I installed them, and as well,
>the earlier ones show an install date for each item, these latest only show
>a date for the whole update package.
>
> The updates are listed in the Add/Remove CPL, but the list does not say
> where they are actually at. I would have thought these items would be in
> the C:\Windows directories somewhere, not on a removable drive. Is there
> any way to check?
>
> I turned off the power to the drive and nothing happened, but then, I
> don;t know exactly how I would check to see iuf it made a difference
> anyway. I could still, for example, start up VB 8 Express with no
> problems.
>
> How do I check where these updates are actually installed?
>
> --
> Pete B
>

[Spamcop User]

PA Bear,

Getting quite a list of rubbish under your name I see

MVP - answer a few questions in a newsgroup
Supporting Windows since XP
And a member of 2 websites
Maybe you should put a member of Gmail too :))

I have been supporting Windows since 3.1, have a MCP (XP), MCSE (2003),
MSAD (.NET Apps) & so on. These are recognised qualifications unlike your
website memberships.

Ever thought abour removing that rubbish from under your newsgroup name?
--
SPAMCOP User


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
> whether service packs have been applied
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
>
> Ideally, you'd unplug all USB keys (USB HDDs; Flash drives) before
> updating via AU or WU as the install process will seek and use the HDD
> with the most free space available. However, whatever's being installed
> will be installed on the boot drive.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> Pete B wrote:
>> I recently installed some Windows XP .Net SPs and updates as provided
>> through the Windows Update option. How can I tell where (and if) these
>> updates are actually installed? The reason I ask this is because I am
>> usinbg an addon removable USB HDD, and after installing thgese updates, I
>> see these items in some temporary folders (folders with the random-type
>> character-string names) on the USB drive, and they are takinbg up quite a
>> lot of space. I was wondering if I can delete these files or not. It
>> seems
>> like a strange place for Windows to install these updates, since I can
>> just
>> turn off the power to that drive at any time. Earlier .net updates did
>> not
>> do anything like this when I installed them, and as well, the earlier
>> ones
>> show an install date for each item, these latest only show a date for the
>> whole update package.
>>
>> The updates are listed in the Add/Remove CPL, but the list does not say
>> where they are actually at. I would have thought these items would be in
>> the C:\Windows directories somewhere, not on a removable drive. Is there
>> any way to check?
>>
>> I turned off the power to the drive and nothing happened, but then, I
>> don;t
>> know exactly how I would check to see iuf it made a difference anyway. I
>> could still, for example, start up VB 8 Express with no problems.
>>
>> How do I check where these updates are actually installed?
>

[farid]

> Belarc is a small programme which tell you all about your system. It's
> free for home use and can be obtained from www.belarc.com. Full details
> of hardware and software ire displayed by the Belarc Advisor. All updates
> and antivirus status is also shown.
> Cheers.
> Farid
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pete B" >
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 11:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Windows .Net Updates and SPs
>
>
>> Thanks. What is Belarc?
>>
>> --
>> Pete B
>>
>> "Jim" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Pete B" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>I recently installed some Windows XP .Net SPs and updates as provided
>>>>through the Windows Update option. How can I tell where (and if) these
>>>>updates are actually installed? The reason I ask this is because I am
>>>>usinbg an addon removable USB HDD, and after installing thgese updates,
>>>>I see these items in some temporary folders (folders with the
>>>>random-type character-string names) on the USB drive, and they are
>>>>takinbg up quite a lot of space. I was wondering if I can delete these
>>>>files or not. It seems like a strange place for Windows to install
>>>>these updates, since I can just turn off the power to that drive at any
>>>>time. Earlier .net updates did not do anything like this when I
>>>>installed them, and as well, the earlier ones show an install date for
>>>>each item, these latest only show a date for the whole update package.
>>>>
>>>> The updates are listed in the Add/Remove CPL, but the list does not say
>>>> where they are actually at. I would have thought these items would be
>>>> in the C:\Windows directories somewhere, not on a removable drive. Is
>>>> there any way to check?
>>>>
>>>> I turned off the power to the drive and nothing happened, but then, I
>>>> don;t know exactly how I would check to see iuf it made a difference
>>>> anyway. I could still, for example, start up VB 8 Express with no
>>>> problems.
>>>>
>>>> How do I check where these updates are actually installed?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Pete B
>>>>
>>> The quickest way to determine where any update may be located is through
>>> using Belarc. On this system, the updates are located in a subfolder
>>> of C:/Windows.
>>>
>>> The folders that you found on the USB drives are temporary folders for
>>> use by the installer. The install routine is supposed to delete them,
>>> but sometimes it doesn't. Thus it is not necessary to keep them.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
"Pete B" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks. What is Belarc?
>
> --
> Pete B
>
> "Jim" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Pete B" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I recently installed some Windows XP .Net SPs and updates as provided
>>>through the Windows Update option. How can I tell where (and if) these
>>>updates are actually installed? The reason I ask this is because I am
>>>usinbg an addon removable USB HDD, and after installing thgese updates, I
>>>see these items in some temporary folders (folders with the random-type
>>>character-string names) on the USB drive, and they are takinbg up quite a
>>>lot of space. I was wondering if I can delete these files or not. It
>>>seems like a strange place for Windows to install these updates, since I
>>>can just turn off the power to that drive at any time. Earlier .net
>>>updates did not do anything like this when I installed them, and as well,
>>>the earlier ones show an install date for each item, these latest only
>>>show a date for the whole update package.
>>>
>>> The updates are listed in the Add/Remove CPL, but the list does not say
>>> where they are actually at. I would have thought these items would be
>>> in the C:\Windows directories somewhere, not on a removable drive. Is
>>> there any way to check?
>>>
>>> I turned off the power to the drive and nothing happened, but then, I
>>> don;t know exactly how I would check to see iuf it made a difference
>>> anyway. I could still, for example, start up VB 8 Express with no
>>> problems.
>>>
>>> How do I check where these updates are actually installed?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Pete B
>>>
>> The quickest way to determine where any update may be located is through
>> using Belarc. On this system, the updates are located in a subfolder of
>> C:/Windows.
>>
>> The folders that you found on the USB drives are temporary folders for
>> use by the installer. The install routine is supposed to delete them,
>> but sometimes it doesn't. Thus it is not necessary to keep them.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>
>

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

<bite me>

SPAMCOP User wrote:
> PA Bear,
>
> Getting quite a list of rubbish under your name I see
>
> MVP - answer a few questions in a newsgroup
> Supporting Windows since XP
> And a member of 2 websites
> Maybe you should put a member of Gmail too :))
>
> I have been supporting Windows since 3.1, have a MCP (XP), MCSE (2003),
> MSAD (.NET Apps) & so on. These are recognised qualifications unlike your
> website memberships.
>
> Ever thought abour removing that rubbish from under your newsgroup name?
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
>> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
>> whether service packs have been applied
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
>>
>> Ideally, you'd unplug all USB keys (USB HDDs; Flash drives) before
>> updating via AU or WU as the install process will seek and use the HDD
>> with the most free space available. However, whatever's being installed
>> will be installed on the boot drive.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>>
>> Pete B wrote:
>>> I recently installed some Windows XP .Net SPs and updates as provided
>>> through the Windows Update option. How can I tell where (and if) these
>>> updates are actually installed? The reason I ask this is because I am
>>> usinbg an addon removable USB HDD, and after installing thgese updates,
>>> I
>>> see these items in some temporary folders (folders with the random-type
>>> character-string names) on the USB drive, and they are takinbg up quite
>>> a
>>> lot of space. I was wondering if I can delete these files or not. It
>>> seems
>>> like a strange place for Windows to install these updates, since I can
>>> just
>>> turn off the power to that drive at any time. Earlier .net updates did
>>> not
>>> do anything like this when I installed them, and as well, the earlier
>>> ones
>>> show an install date for each item, these latest only show a date for
>>> the
>>> whole update package.
>>>
>>> The updates are listed in the Add/Remove CPL, but the list does not say
>>> where they are actually at. I would have thought these items would be
>>> in
>>> the C:\Windows directories somewhere, not on a removable drive. Is
>>> there
>>> any way to check?
>>>
>>> I turned off the power to the drive and nothing happened, but then, I
>>> don;t
>>> know exactly how I would check to see iuf it made a difference anyway.
>>> I
>>> could still, for example, start up VB 8 Express with no problems.
>>>
>>> How do I check where these updates are actually installed?

[Pete B]

FYI this gentleman Pa Bear has helped me with other problems in the past, as
well as this incidence. He has impressed me as a very knowledgeable person
on these topics to which he responds. Your comments are an insult to him
and an unwarranted, unwelcome and unsolicited interjection of your rude
behavior into this thread.

If you have nothing helpful to say, then please keep your comments to
yourself.

--
Pete B

"SPAMCOP User" > wrote in message
...
> PA Bear,
>
> Getting quite a list of rubbish under your name I see
>
> MVP - answer a few questions in a newsgroup
> Supporting Windows since XP
> And a member of 2 websites
> Maybe you should put a member of Gmail too :))
>
> I have been supporting Windows since 3.1, have a MCP (XP), MCSE (2003),
> MSAD (.NET Apps) & so on. These are recognised qualifications unlike your
> website memberships.
>
> Ever thought abour removing that rubbish from under your newsgroup name?
> --
> SPAMCOP User
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
>> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
>> whether service packs have been applied
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
>>
>> Ideally, you'd unplug all USB keys (USB HDDs; Flash drives) before
>> updating via AU or WU as the install process will seek and use the HDD
>> with the most free space available. However, whatever's being installed
>> will be installed on the boot drive.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>>
>> Pete B wrote:
>>> I recently installed some Windows XP .Net SPs and updates as provided
>>> through the Windows Update option. How can I tell where (and if) these
>>> updates are actually installed? The reason I ask this is because I am
>>> usinbg an addon removable USB HDD, and after installing thgese updates,
>>> I
>>> see these items in some temporary folders (folders with the random-type
>>> character-string names) on the USB drive, and they are takinbg up quite
>>> a
>>> lot of space. I was wondering if I can delete these files or not. It
>>> seems
>>> like a strange place for Windows to install these updates, since I can
>>> just
>>> turn off the power to that drive at any time. Earlier .net updates did
>>> not
>>> do anything like this when I installed them, and as well, the earlier
>>> ones
>>> show an install date for each item, these latest only show a date for
>>> the
>>> whole update package.
>>>
>>> The updates are listed in the Add/Remove CPL, but the list does not say
>>> where they are actually at. I would have thought these items would be
>>> in
>>> the C:\Windows directories somewhere, not on a removable drive. Is
>>> there
>>> any way to check?
>>>
>>> I turned off the power to the drive and nothing happened, but then, I
>>> don;t
>>> know exactly how I would check to see iuf it made a difference anyway.
>>> I
>>> could still, for example, start up VB 8 Express with no problems.
>>>
>>> How do I check where these updates are actually installed?
>>
>

[Bill in Co.]

Pete B wrote:
> FYI this gentleman Pa Bear has helped me with other problems in the past,
> as
> well as this incidence. He has impressed me as a very knowledgeable
> person
> on these topics to which he responds. Your comments are an insult to him
> and an unwarranted, unwelcome and unsolicited interjection of your rude
> behavior into this thread.
>
> If you have nothing helpful to say, then please keep your comments to
> yourself.
>
> --
> Pete B

Hear! Hear!

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Bill in Co. wrote:
> Pete B wrote:
>> FYI this gentleman Pa Bear has helped me with other problems in the past,
>> as
>> well as this incidence. He has impressed me as a very knowledgeable
>> person
>> on these topics to which he responds. Your comments are an insult to him
>> and an unwarranted, unwelcome and unsolicited interjection of your rude
>> behavior into this thread.
>>
>> If you have nothing helpful to say, then please keep your comments to
>> yourself.
>
> Hear! Hear!

As Lawrence Welk used to say, "Thank you, /boyce/ !" <w>