viewing updates before install

[tg]

I've searched google but I can't find a solution to this anywhere. On a
windows XP SP3 machine if I do start/turn off the box shows a line
saying: 'Click here to turn off without installing updates'. Problem is
I want to see what updates it's going to install before allowing the
updates as there are certain updates I don't want, but there's no-where
I can find to make windows display the updates. That pesky little yellow
shield is no-where to be found when you want it. In the security
settings I've always had a dot in 'Notify me but don't automatically
download or install them'. How do I invoke the yellow shield and make
windows display the updates?

[VanguardLH[_2_]]

tg wrote:

> I've searched google but I can't find a solution to this anywhere. On a
> windows XP SP3 machine if I do start/turn off the box shows a line
> saying: 'Click here to turn off without installing updates'. Problem is
> I want to see what updates it's going to install before allowing the
> updates as there are certain updates I don't want, but there's no-where
> I can find to make windows display the updates. That pesky little yellow
> shield is no-where to be found when you want it. In the security
> settings I've always had a dot in 'Notify me but don't automatically
> download or install them'. How do I invoke the yellow shield and make
> windows display the updates?

The configure Automatic Updates to NOT download and install updates.
Configure it to prompt you that there are new updates. You can have it
prompt without downloading the updates or prompt after downloading the
updates. It's up to you how you want AU to work. If you choose to be
prompted, then they aren't applied if you say no. They are if you say
yes, so you already know what updates you allowed when prompted when you
later exit Windows which then wants to complete the installation of
those item (if you said yes to the prompt).

Control Panel -> Automatic Updates
Do not select the Automatic setting. Select either "Download for me but
let me choose" or "Notify me" to get prompted.

It probably isn't possible to back out of a shutdown when processes are
getting terminated to then get back to the desktop to show you what
updates are included in the pending list that you allowed before
(whether it was automatic or you said yes to the prompt).

Personally I select the "Notify me" option for AU. The download may not
be that small and the disk activity to store the updates could interfere
with your current work or generate a jerkiness in response of your host
if you use the "Download but let me choose" option. Using Automatic
mode means you relinquish control over the state of you host and let
Microsoft decide when to change that state and how to change it, and
since it is automatic means you don't get told what changes will get
made.

[bobnrobin]

"tg" wrote:

> I've searched google but I can't find a solution to this anywhere. On a
> windows XP SP3 machine if I do start/turn off the box shows a line
> saying: 'Click here to turn off without installing updates'. Problem is
> I want to see what updates it's going to install before allowing the
> updates as there are certain updates I don't want, but there's no-where
> I can find to make windows display the updates. That pesky little yellow
> shield is no-where to be found when you want it. In the security
> settings I've always had a dot in 'Notify me but don't automatically
> download or install them'. How do I invoke the yellow shield and make
> windows display the updates?
>
>Hello,
This works for me - maybe for you ? Mine is set to DL but notify before
install. When the yellow shield indicates DL's are ready, go to the update
site, run Custom, show other updates. It will then show you the list. Click
on the DL's to get the description and if it says "0 kb, DL'd ready to
install" you will then know what has been DL'd and can install or not as you
see fit.
Hope this helps.
bobnrobin
>
>

[Robert Aldwinckle]

"tg" > wrote in message ...
> I've searched google but I can't find a solution to this anywhere.


This was discussed a few weeks ago... Oh. A few months ago?
(Time flies when you're having fun. <w>)

Here's sumary suggestion and a redirect:

http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsupdate&mid=98bbb8c5-5fcf-4d8c-81f0-76f725eae6e8&sloc=en-us

(WU Communities search for
"AU icon" "shut down"
)


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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> On a
> windows XP SP3 machine if I do start/turn off the box shows a line
> saying: 'Click here to turn off without installing updates'. Problem is
> I want to see what updates it's going to install before allowing the
> updates as there are certain updates I don't want, but there's no-where
> I can find to make windows display the updates. That pesky little yellow
> shield is no-where to be found when you want it. In the security
> settings I've always had a dot in 'Notify me but don't automatically download or install them'. How do I invoke the yellow shield
> and make windows display the updates?
>
>
>

[tg]

"Robert Aldwinckle" > wrote in message
...
>
> "tg" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I've searched google but I can't find a solution to this anywhere.
>
> This was discussed a few weeks ago... Oh. A few months ago?
> (Time flies when you're having fun. <w>)
>
> Here's sumary suggestion and a redirect:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsupdate&mid=98bbb8c5-5fcf-4d8c-81f0-76f725eae6e8&sloc=en-us


thanks for your response Rubert. After reading your link it seems there
isn't a clear fix for this, you just have to wait until windows throws
up the yellow shield again. How long that takes is anybody's guess.

[tg]

"bobnrobin" > wrote in message
...

read my post again, properly this time. I've already done what you said.

[tg]

"VanguardLH" > wrote in message
...
> tg wrote:

read my post again, properly this time. I've already done what you said.

[Terry R.[_2_]]

The date and time was Friday, March 27, 2009 7:48:00 AM, and on a whim,
tg pounded out on the keyboard:

> "Robert Aldwinckle" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "tg" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I've searched google but I can't find a solution to this anywhere.
>> This was discussed a few weeks ago... Oh. A few months ago?
>> (Time flies when you're having fun. <w>)
>>
>> Here's sumary suggestion and a redirect:
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsupdate&mid=98bbb8c5-5fcf-4d8c-81f0-76f725eae6e8&sloc=en-us
>
>
> thanks for your response Rubert. After reading your link it seems there
> isn't a clear fix for this, you just have to wait until windows throws
> up the yellow shield again. How long that takes is anybody's guess.
>
>

Hi TG,

If you click on the Windows Update icon in All Programs, that will bring
up the web update. You can check on which updates you have installed.

Also, if you download an update directly from WU, that will force the
shield to pop up to let you know that updates are now available (duh,
I'm already doing that...). So you can initiate an update without
waiting for the shield to inform you. You can also select which ones to
download or ignore from the site.

And if your settings are on "Notify me...", when the shield pops up,
click it and choose "Custom". From there you can uncheck any updates you
don't want. I believe you can choose Custom from the download window
and the install window, so you have two opportunities to deselect an update.


Terry R.
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[tg]

"Terry R." > wrote in message
...
> The date and time was Friday, March 27, 2009 7:48:00 AM, and on a
> whim, tg pounded out on the keyboard:

ok Terry thanks for this advice.

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

If you go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com, select CUSTOM & scan, you
should be offered the updates that haven't downloaded yet. After you
install them, you will not see that prompt at shutdown.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

tg wrote:
<snip>
> thanks for your response Rubert. After reading your link it seems there
> isn't a clear fix for this, you just have to wait until windows throws
> up the yellow shield again. How long that takes is anybody's guess.

[VanguardLH[_2_]]

tg wrote:

> "VanguardLH" > wrote in message
> ...
>> tg wrote:
>
> read my post again, properly this time. I've already done what you said.

I focused on the dialog appearing when you were shutting down Windows
telling you about completing the installation of updates. I only
addressed the first problem in the two problems that you mention.

For the yellow shield icon, and since you use notify with no download,
it won't show until the Automatic Updates service does another query
(when you are online). I don't see a user configuration option in the
Automatic Updates service to specify how often or when to check for
updates.

Might it be possible that the icon is being hidden? Right-click on [an
unused area of] the system tray, Customize Notifications, and make sure
you did not set this icon to "Always hidden" or "Hidden when inactive".
Of course, you can't change the display mode of an icon unless it is
present in the system tray. You could look in the list of Past Items to
see if it was set to hide. So, for awhile, configure the system tray to
NOT hide any inactive icons.