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Dave and Rosanna
July 23rd 09, 07:30 PM
Hello all -
I ran this fix today on my xp box to reset the secuity settings.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;313222

This box is fine, but I can no longer access it from a 2nd (Win2k) PC over
the network. The client in the second PC asks for user ID/Password,
I provide it with the my logon credentials on the XP box and it fails.

Shouldn't this work? Is there something I have to do on the 1st box ?

TIA for any info

Pegasus [MVP]
July 23rd 09, 07:36 PM
"Dave and Rosanna" > wrote in message
...
> Hello all -
> I ran this fix today on my xp box to reset the secuity settings.
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;313222
>
> This box is fine, but I can no longer access it from a 2nd (Win2k) PC over
> the network. The client in the second PC asks for user ID/Password,
> I provide it with the my logon credentials on the XP box and it fails.
>
> Shouldn't this work? Is there something I have to do on the 1st box ?
>
> TIA for any info

You need to create an account/password on the Win2000 PC that matches your
account/password on the WinXP machine. You must then use this account when
logging on to the Win2000 machine.

John Wunderlich
July 23rd 09, 08:40 PM
"Dave and Rosanna" > wrote in
:

> Hello all -
> I ran this fix today on my xp box to reset the secuity settings.
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;313222
>
> This box is fine, but I can no longer access it from a 2nd (Win2k)
> PC over the network. The client in the second PC asks for user
> ID/Password, I provide it with the my logon credentials on the XP
> box and it fails.
>
> Shouldn't this work? Is there something I have to do on the 1st
> box ?
>
> TIA for any info
>
>

Is it XP Home or XP Pro?
If it is XP Pro, try enabling "Simple File Sharing"
(Double-click any folder -> Tools -> Folder Options -> View ->
Last checkbox at bottom

HTH,
John

davexnet[_2_]
July 24th 09, 12:42 AM
"John Wunderlich" > wrote in message
0...
> "Dave and Rosanna" > wrote in
> :
>
> > Hello all -
> > I ran this fix today on my xp box to reset the secuity settings.
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;313222
> >
> > This box is fine, but I can no longer access it from a 2nd (Win2k)
> > PC over the network. The client in the second PC asks for user
> > ID/Password, I provide it with the my logon credentials on the XP
> > box and it fails.
> >
> > Shouldn't this work? Is there something I have to do on the 1st
> > box ?
> >
> > TIA for any info
> >
> >
>
> Is it XP Home or XP Pro?
> If it is XP Pro, try enabling "Simple File Sharing"
> (Double-click any folder -> Tools -> Folder Options -> View ->
> Last checkbox at bottom
>
> HTH,
> John
It's PRO and simple file sharing already enabled.

Regarding Pegasus' point - prior to resetting the XP PC's security, Windows
2000 was able to
access the shares on the XP box in the workgroup without a problem.
The account name did not match the XP account name,
but somewhere along the line the client in Win2k had asked for the password,
and I gave it the logon/
password I use when I logon to the XP box. Now I'm trying that again, but
it's not working.

I looked in the event viewer hoping to find some diagnostic message, but
nothing gets logged on
either box. Any other way to gather some more info ?

davexnet[_2_]
July 24th 09, 01:03 AM
More info:
I enabled the Guest account on the XP box, assuming it would allow the win2k
machine to access the PC.
Instead of the Win2k asking for a userid/password, I get this message:

Logon Failure: The user has not been granted the requested logon type
at this computer.

Does it help to identify the problem ?

"davexnet" > wrote in message
...
>
> "John Wunderlich" > wrote in message
> 0...
> > "Dave and Rosanna" > wrote in
> > :
> >
> > > Hello all -
> > > I ran this fix today on my xp box to reset the secuity settings.
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;313222
> > >
> > > This box is fine, but I can no longer access it from a 2nd (Win2k)
> > > PC over the network. The client in the second PC asks for user
> > > ID/Password, I provide it with the my logon credentials on the XP
> > > box and it fails.
> > >
> > > Shouldn't this work? Is there something I have to do on the 1st
> > > box ?
> > >
> > > TIA for any info
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Is it XP Home or XP Pro?
> > If it is XP Pro, try enabling "Simple File Sharing"
> > (Double-click any folder -> Tools -> Folder Options -> View ->
> > Last checkbox at bottom
> >
> > HTH,
> > John
> It's PRO and simple file sharing already enabled.
>
> Regarding Pegasus' point - prior to resetting the XP PC's security,
Windows
> 2000 was able to
> access the shares on the XP box in the workgroup without a problem.
> The account name did not match the XP account name,
> but somewhere along the line the client in Win2k had asked for the
password,
> and I gave it the logon/
> password I use when I logon to the XP box. Now I'm trying that again, but
> it's not working.
>
> I looked in the event viewer hoping to find some diagnostic message, but
> nothing gets logged on
> either box. Any other way to gather some more info ?
>
>

Bruce Chambers
July 24th 09, 01:50 AM
Dave and Rosanna wrote:
> Hello all -
> I ran this fix today on my xp box to reset the secuity settings.
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;313222
>
> This box is fine, but I can no longer access it from a 2nd (Win2k) PC over
> the network. The client in the second PC asks for user ID/Password,
> I provide it with the my logon credentials on the XP box and it fails.
>
> Shouldn't this work? Is there something I have to do on the 1st box ?
>
> TIA for any info
>
>

On each WinXP PC, create local user account(s), with non-blank
password(s), that have the desired access privileges to the desired
shares. Log on to the other PCs using those account(s), and you will be
able to access the designated shares, provided your network is
configured properly. Also, make sure that WinXP's built-in firewall is
disabled on the internal LAN connection.

Usually, WinXP's Networking Wizard makes it simple and painless --
almost entirely automatic, in fact. There's a lot of useful,
easy-to-follow information in WinXP's Help & Support files, and here:

Home Networking
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/howto/homenet/default.asp

Networking Information
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/networking.htm

PracticallyNetworked Home
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/index.htm

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm



--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

davexnet[_2_]
July 24th 09, 02:34 AM
"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> Dave and Rosanna wrote:
> > Hello all -
> > I ran this fix today on my xp box to reset the secuity settings.
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;313222
> >
> > This box is fine, but I can no longer access it from a 2nd (Win2k) PC
over
> > the network. The client in the second PC asks for user ID/Password,
> > I provide it with the my logon credentials on the XP box and it fails.
> >
> > Shouldn't this work? Is there something I have to do on the 1st box ?
> >
> > TIA for any info
> >
> >
>
> On each WinXP PC, create local user account(s), with non-blank
> password(s), that have the desired access privileges to the desired
> shares. Log on to the other PCs using those account(s), and you will be
> able to access the designated shares, provided your network is
> configured properly. Also, make sure that WinXP's built-in firewall is
> disabled on the internal LAN connection.
>
> Usually, WinXP's Networking Wizard makes it simple and painless --
> almost entirely automatic, in fact. There's a lot of useful,
> easy-to-follow information in WinXP's Help & Support files, and here:
>
> Home Networking
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/howto/homenet/default.asp
>
> Networking Information
> http://www.onecomputerguy.com/networking.htm
>
> PracticallyNetworked Home
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/index.htm
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot
Bruce,
I'm trying to access the XP box using credentials from my XP account on the
win2k box.
For example, to logon to XP physically, at the XP logon screen, there are
two account icons mine and my son's. My user is DAVEH . I select it and XP
asks for the
password and I enter dave1234 and it lets me in. (I'm the adminstrator)

On the win2k box when I try to access one of the XP shares it pops up a box
where I can enter "connect as" and "password".
I enter DAVEH and dave1234 and it says incorrect password or user name.

From the CMD box, if I enter NET VIEW \\XP-BOX-NAME
I get system error 5 has occurred.

davexnet[_2_]
July 24th 09, 03:01 AM
Bruce,
it turns out file and printer sharing had been disabled.
Once I re-enabled it, no further setup was necessary. That makes sense,
since it was working perfectly well before I reset the security settings.
One of your links provided the clue - the info right on the sharing tab,
and a link to open the wizard. Thanks for your help.
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/networking/xp_network.htm#sharing



"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> Dave and Rosanna wrote:
> > Hello all -
> > I ran this fix today on my xp box to reset the secuity settings.
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;313222
> >
> > This box is fine, but I can no longer access it from a 2nd (Win2k) PC
over
> > the network. The client in the second PC asks for user ID/Password,
> > I provide it with the my logon credentials on the XP box and it fails.
> >
> > Shouldn't this work? Is there something I have to do on the 1st box ?
> >
> > TIA for any info
> >
> >
>
> On each WinXP PC, create local user account(s), with non-blank
> password(s), that have the desired access privileges to the desired
> shares. Log on to the other PCs using those account(s), and you will be
> able to access the designated shares, provided your network is
> configured properly. Also, make sure that WinXP's built-in firewall is
> disabled on the internal LAN connection.
>
> Usually, WinXP's Networking Wizard makes it simple and painless --
> almost entirely automatic, in fact. There's a lot of useful,
> easy-to-follow information in WinXP's Help & Support files, and here:
>
> Home Networking
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/howto/homenet/default.asp
>
> Networking Information
> http://www.onecomputerguy.com/networking.htm
>
> PracticallyNetworked Home
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/index.htm
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot

Bruce Chambers
July 25th 09, 03:29 AM
davexnet wrote:
> Bruce,
> it turns out file and printer sharing had been disabled.
> Once I re-enabled it, no further setup was necessary. That makes sense,
> since it was working perfectly well before I reset the security settings.
> One of your links provided the clue - the info right on the sharing tab,
> and a link to open the wizard. Thanks for your help.
> http://www.onecomputerguy.com/networking/xp_network.htm#sharing
>


You're welcome. Glad you got it sorted.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
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http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

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