Check disk error

[jc]

Hi

I have checked one of my hard disk and I have found this error in log:

"Cleaning up 439 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9."

Googling it gives no useful result, just some generic advice (backup
data, or ignore it) and some link to the MS Technet article as usual
correct in theory but with no practical meaning.

There is a way to tell if some file is corrupted and lost or not? And
which file, with precision? Why do not they write something
understandable in that log?


Thank you.

[Bernd]

-------- Original-Nachricht --------

> Hi
>
> I have checked one of my hard disk and I have found this error in log:
>
> "Cleaning up 439 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9."
>
> Googling it gives no useful result, just some generic advice (backup
> data, or ignore it) and some link to the MS Technet article as usual
> correct in theory but with no practical meaning.
>
> There is a way to tell if some file is corrupted and lost or not? And
> which file, with precision? Why do not they write something
> understandable in that log?
>
>
> Thank you.

Seems normal. Look here (under "typical result"):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHKDSK

Look here, for explanation (last paragraph):

http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs-permissions-security-descriptor.htm

By the way: all found with Google ;-)

Bernd

[jc]

Bernd wrote:
>
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have checked one of my hard disk and I have found this error in log:
>>
>> "Cleaning up 439 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9."
>>
>> Googling it gives no useful result, just some generic advice (backup
>> data, or ignore it) and some link to the MS Technet article as usual
>> correct in theory but with no practical meaning.
>>
>> There is a way to tell if some file is corrupted and lost or not? And
>> which file, with precision? Why do not they write something
>> understandable in that log?
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>
> Seems normal. Look here (under "typical result"):
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHKDSK
>
> Look here, for explanation (last paragraph):
>
> http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs-permissions-security-descriptor.htm
>
> By the way: all found with Google ;-)
>
> Bernd

Exactly what I said.

The first link is "generic and useless info" (I already read it).

The second is "correct in theory but with no pratical use".

Anyone else about this problem?

Thanks.

[1PW[_4_]]

jc wrote:
> Bernd wrote:
>>
>>
>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have checked one of my hard disk and I have found this error in log:
>>>
>>> "Cleaning up 439 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9."
>>>
>>> Googling it gives no useful result, just some generic advice (backup
>>> data, or ignore it) and some link to the MS Technet article as usual
>>> correct in theory but with no practical meaning.
>>>
>>> There is a way to tell if some file is corrupted and lost or not? And
>>> which file, with precision? Why do not they write something
>>> understandable in that log?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>
>> Seems normal. Look here (under "typical result"):
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHKDSK
>>
>> Look here, for explanation (last paragraph):
>>
>> http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs-permissions-security-descriptor.htm
>>
>> By the way: all found with Google ;-)
>>
>> Bernd
>
> Exactly what I said.
>
> The first link is "generic and useless info" (I already read it).
>
> The second is "correct in theory but with no practical use".
>
> Anyone else about this problem?
>
> Thanks.

Hello jc:

I hope I understand your obvious frustration. The source, and how its
manifested itself, will probably never be known. If your system
suffered a sudden power loss or other like disturbance, that may be
related.

It's likely your hard disk drive (HDD) has the S.M.A.R.T. feature and
you would do well to interrogate your HDD and possibly run a
diagnostic to establish its condition now.

If you establish that your HDD is satisfactory, you might wish to
perform an image backup, reformat and restore. Of course this has the
added benefit of re-establishing a general health baseline.

If your HDD fails to establish your confidence through diagnostics, a
replacement HDD is probably in your future.

HTH

--
1PW

[Rey Santos]

Windows 2000 Chkdsk Reports Cleaning Unused Security Descriptors
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255008/EN-US/

The CHKDSK utility incorrectly identifies and deletes in-use security
descriptors
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/831374

If you search for the word security decriptors in your Help and Support you
may find information:

Windows 2000 Chkdsk Reports Cleaning Unused Security Descriptors
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255008
Cause: This problem occurs because if Chkdsk is run against an NTFS volume,
Chkdsk.exe may report that security descriptors are in the database that are
no longer referenced by any file or folder and that it is removing them.
However, Chkdsk.exe just reclaims the unused security descriptors as a
housekeeping activity, and it does not actually fix any kind of problem.

There actually 15 Knowledge Base results telling you of the same things.

--
Rey


"jc" wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have checked one of my hard disk and I have found this error in log:
>
> "Cleaning up 439 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9."
>
> Googling it gives no useful result, just some generic advice (backup
> data, or ignore it) and some link to the MS Technet article as usual
> correct in theory but with no practical meaning.
>
> There is a way to tell if some file is corrupted and lost or not? And
> which file, with precision? Why do not they write something
> understandable in that log?
>
>
> Thank you.
>

[jc]

> Hello jc:
>
> I hope I understand your obvious frustration. The source, and how its
> manifested itself, will probably never be known. If your system
> suffered a sudden power loss or other like disturbance, that may be
> related.

That's what I was afraid of, with all the progress they tell us is in
place, we are reduced to diagnose problems almost by calling the
Ghostbusters.

> It's likely your hard disk drive (HDD) has the S.M.A.R.T. feature and
> you would do well to interrogate your HDD and possibly run a
> diagnostic to establish its condition now.

I will try this, thanks.

Do you know some free program checking it?

[jc]

Rey Santos wrote:
> Windows 2000 Chkdsk Reports Cleaning Unused Security Descriptors
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255008/EN-US/
>

Thanks for your answer but I have XP as this forum is for.

[BillW50]

In ,
jc typed on Sat, 26 Sep 2009 20:27:11 +0200:
> Rey Santos wrote:
>> Windows 2000 Chkdsk Reports Cleaning Unused Security Descriptors
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255008/EN-US/
>>
>
> Thanks for your answer but I have XP as this forum is for.

Advice to fix Windows 2000 problems usually also applies to fixing the
same problems under Windows XP. Most of the time anyway. As they share
many of the same files in fact.

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2

[BillW50]

In ,
jc typed on Sat, 26 Sep 2009 20:25:41 +0200:
>> Hello jc:
>>
>> I hope I understand your obvious frustration. The source, and how
>> its manifested itself, will probably never be known. If your system
>> suffered a sudden power loss or other like disturbance, that may be
>> related.
>
> That's what I was afraid of, with all the progress they tell us is in
> place, we are reduced to diagnose problems almost by calling the
> Ghostbusters.
>
>> It's likely your hard disk drive (HDD) has the S.M.A.R.T. feature and
>> you would do well to interrogate your HDD and possibly run a
>> diagnostic to establish its condition now.
>
> I will try this, thanks.
>
> Do you know some free program checking it?

HD Sentinel is excellent. You don't have to pay or register it (so it is
free) unless you want the extra paid for features to be available.

http://www.hdsentinel.com/

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2

[Johnw]

jc pretended :
>> Hello jc:
>>
>> I hope I understand your obvious frustration. The source, and how its
>> manifested itself, will probably never be known. If your system
>> suffered a sudden power loss or other like disturbance, that may be
>> related.
>
> That's what I was afraid of, with all the progress they tell us is in place,
> we are reduced to diagnose problems almost by calling the Ghostbusters.
>
>> It's likely your hard disk drive (HDD) has the S.M.A.R.T. feature and
>> you would do well to interrogate your HDD and possibly run a
>> diagnostic to establish its condition now.
>
> I will try this, thanks.
>
> Do you know some free program checking it?

"we are reduced to diagnose problems almost by calling the
Ghostbusters"
Not quite right, it's called Googling.

SMART and Simple for NT/2000/XP
http://www.beyondlogic.org/solutions/smart/smart.htm

[Rey Santos]

On your Help and Support (Start) if you type "Security Decriptors" on the
search, at the bottom of the search result there are 15 Knowledge Base
results which includes the references I gave.

--
Rey


"jc" wrote:

> Rey Santos wrote:
> > Windows 2000 Chkdsk Reports Cleaning Unused Security Descriptors
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255008/EN-US/
> >
>
> Thanks for your answer but I have XP as this forum is for.
>