Need expert help - must disable 'stand by' option in shutdown menu

[kmurdock]

First, thank you for taking the time to offer advice and
help, I do appreciate it. However, that was not the
solution I need.

As for the power management (and MMC, and registry), I
already had it set to not go into standby on its own, and
the User rights to adjust the settings disabled. That is
not what I am trying to do.

**I am trying to physically remove the 'stand by' choice
from the shutdown menu.**

Basically, I need to be able to go 'Start - Shut Down',
then at the 'Shut Down Windows' dialogue box, I want it to
only say 'shut down' and 'restart' in the drop-down menu.
I already killed 'log off' and 'hibernate', but the 'stand
by' option persists.

Try it, it is not as easy as you would think. I can't seem
to force the option to go away no matter what the setings.

again, thanks in advance...



>-----Original Message-----
>In Power Mgmt or Desktop or the MMC for that matter, you
>designate that the defaults are "never" for the schemes.
>Remember to click on the advance tab and select "do
>nothing" for sleep key. Then configure the desktop,
>within the MMC, so only the administrator can change the
>settings.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I work as network support at UGA, and I am trying to
>>upgrade some computer labs to XP Pro (Netware 5
>environ).
>>I need to remove the 'stand by' option from the shutdown
>>menu. I have went through the power settings, policy
>>settings, registry, even tried decompiling a copy of
>>msgina.dll to attempt to kill this option in the
>menu...to
>>no avail. Surely there must be plenty others out there
>who
>>want to remove the user's ability to put the machine on
>>stand by (this is an undergrad lab...can you imagine
>>having to manually check 80+ machines throughout the day
>>to make sure that blank screen on all the machines is
>>because the system is off or monitor sleeping instead of
>>put in 'stand by' mode?)
>>
>>I have tried the usual haunts (kelley's corner, several
>>other tweak sites, Google sites and groups), and have
>seen
>>this question posed a few times by others in my
>situation,
>>but have yet to see a reply other that "I would think
>you
>>should be able to do that in the power managemant
>>settings". Trust me, you can't...this is definately a
>more
>>advanced problem.
>>
>>Help!
>>
>>please
>>.
>>
>.
>

[Another Steve]

I'd be very keep to know the answer as well. I guess the simple truth is
that there isn't one.

I've thought of disabling ACPI in the BIOS, but I haven't tried it and
anyway we then get irritated users who have to manually turn off their
computers, plus bigger power bills.

I'd be quite happy to have the entire "Shut down" option removed from the
start menu. The Novell GINA is perfect - no Stand by option!

Steve

kmurdock wrote:
> First, thank you for taking the time to offer advice and
> help, I do appreciate it. However, that was not the
> solution I need.
>
> As for the power management (and MMC, and registry), I
> already had it set to not go into standby on its own, and
> the User rights to adjust the settings disabled. That is
> not what I am trying to do.
>
> **I am trying to physically remove the 'stand by' choice
> from the shutdown menu.**
>
> Basically, I need to be able to go 'Start - Shut Down',
> then at the 'Shut Down Windows' dialogue box, I want it to
> only say 'shut down' and 'restart' in the drop-down menu.
> I already killed 'log off' and 'hibernate', but the 'stand
> by' option persists.
>
> Try it, it is not as easy as you would think. I can't seem
> to force the option to go away no matter what the setings.
>
> again, thanks in advance...
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> In Power Mgmt or Desktop or the MMC for that matter, you
>> designate that the defaults are "never" for the schemes.
>> Remember to click on the advance tab and select "do
>> nothing" for sleep key. Then configure the desktop,
>> within the MMC, so only the administrator can change the
>> settings.
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> I work as network support at UGA, and I am trying to
>>> upgrade some computer labs to XP Pro (Netware 5 environ).
>>> I need to remove the 'stand by' option from the shutdown
>>> menu. I have went through the power settings, policy
>>> settings, registry, even tried decompiling a copy of
>>> msgina.dll to attempt to kill this option in the menu...to
>>> no avail. Surely there must be plenty others out there who
>>> want to remove the user's ability to put the machine on
>>> stand by (this is an undergrad lab...can you imagine
>>> having to manually check 80+ machines throughout the day
>>> to make sure that blank screen on all the machines is
>>> because the system is off or monitor sleeping instead of
>>> put in 'stand by' mode?)
>>>
>>> I have tried the usual haunts (kelley's corner, several
>>> other tweak sites, Google sites and groups), and have seen
>>> this question posed a few times by others in my situation,
>>> but have yet to see a reply other that "I would think you
>>> should be able to do that in the power managemant
>>> settings". Trust me, you can't...this is definately a more
>>> advanced problem.
>>>
>>> Help!
>>>
>>> please
>>> .
>>>
>> .

[kmurdock]

There's always an way...if it was made from code, it can
be un-made/modified...it's just beyond my current scope of
knowledge. I can't believe they thought to give you
options to restrict who can undock a pc (and even more
obscure options), shutdown, or even logoff a machine in
the Group Policy, but they didn't think to add this in
somewhere. Very frustrating.

A thought did occur to me last night while I was busy
thinking over this instead of sleeping (heh)...is there a
way (there HAS to be) of changing/adding a script to
the 'Start - Shut Down' button that would call the
nwgina 'shut down' box instead of the MS one? The box you
get after 'Ctrl-Alt-Del - shut down' would be perfect. I
wonder if there is a way to simply find and copy the part
of the code that calls the Novell shutdown options box
from the 'Ctrl-Alt-Del - shut down' and make the 'Start -
Shut Down' button use the same command/scripts/call
(whatever it is)? I would be a very happy man if I could
figure that one out...preferably in the next 8 hours, as I
have a deadline from above to have this model ready for
ghosting Monday morning.

Ideas?

Thanks again all...


>-----Original Message-----
>I'd be very keep to know the answer as well. I guess the
simple truth is
>that there isn't one.
>
>I've thought of disabling ACPI in the BIOS, but I haven't
tried it and
>anyway we then get irritated users who have to manually
turn off their
>computers, plus bigger power bills.
>
>I'd be quite happy to have the entire "Shut down" option
removed from the
>start menu. The Novell GINA is perfect - no Stand by
option!
>
>Steve
>
>kmurdock wrote:
>> First, thank you for taking the time to offer advice and
>> help, I do appreciate it. However, that was not the
>> solution I need.
>>
>> As for the power management (and MMC, and registry), I
>> already had it set to not go into standby on its own,
and
>> the User rights to adjust the settings disabled. That is
>> not what I am trying to do.
>>
>> **I am trying to physically remove the 'stand by' choice
>> from the shutdown menu.**
>>
>> Basically, I need to be able to go 'Start - Shut Down',
>> then at the 'Shut Down Windows' dialogue box, I want it
to
>> only say 'shut down' and 'restart' in the drop-down
menu.
>> I already killed 'log off' and 'hibernate', but
the 'stand
>> by' option persists.
>>
>> Try it, it is not as easy as you would think. I can't
seem
>> to force the option to go away no matter what the
setings.
>>
>> again, thanks in advance...
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> In Power Mgmt or Desktop or the MMC for that matter,
you
>>> designate that the defaults are "never" for the
schemes.
>>> Remember to click on the advance tab and select "do
>>> nothing" for sleep key. Then configure the desktop,
>>> within the MMC, so only the administrator can change
the
>>> settings.
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> I work as network support at UGA, and I am trying to
>>>> upgrade some computer labs to XP Pro (Netware 5
environ).
>>>> I need to remove the 'stand by' option from the
shutdown
>>>> menu. I have went through the power settings, policy
>>>> settings, registry, even tried decompiling a copy of
>>>> msgina.dll to attempt to kill this option in the
menu...to
>>>> no avail. Surely there must be plenty others out
there who
>>>> want to remove the user's ability to put the machine
on
>>>> stand by (this is an undergrad lab...can you imagine
>>>> having to manually check 80+ machines throughout the
day
>>>> to make sure that blank screen on all the machines is
>>>> because the system is off or monitor sleeping instead
of
>>>> put in 'stand by' mode?)
>>>>
>>>> I have tried the usual haunts (kelley's corner,
several
>>>> other tweak sites, Google sites and groups), and have
seen
>>>> this question posed a few times by others in my
situation,
>>>> but have yet to see a reply other that "I would think
you
>>>> should be able to do that in the power managemant
>>>> settings". Trust me, you can't...this is definately a
more
>>>> advanced problem.
>>>>
>>>> Help!
>>>>
>>>> please
>>>> .
>>>>
>>> .
>
>
>.
>