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Tinsby
November 14th 09, 03:14 PM
Just built another XP Pro SP3 machine and am having trouble.
More times than I would like to count I go to run an app and I get a
message saying I can't access it because I don't have permission!

I am the sole user and am administrator of course.

To give me access to the app I have to reboot the machine, THEN I can
run the program.

This is a clean install on a brand new drive and I'm having trouble
already I hesitate to add more programs until I get this solved.

My other machine gave up the ghost after 5 years or more of good
reliable service, this thing is making me crazy!

What to do?

Thank you all in advance!

Tinsby

PA Bear [MS MVP]
November 14th 09, 05:09 PM
Did you take care of everything on the following page before otherwise
connecting the machine to the internet or a network and before using a USB
key that isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted?...

5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
www.banthecheck.com

Tinsby wrote:
> Just built another XP Pro SP3 machine and am having trouble.
> More times than I would like to count I go to run an app and I get a
> message saying I can't access it because I don't have permission!
>
> I am the sole user and am administrator of course.
>
> To give me access to the app I have to reboot the machine, THEN I can
> run the program.
>
> This is a clean install on a brand new drive and I'm having trouble
> already I hesitate to add more programs until I get this solved.
>
> My other machine gave up the ghost after 5 years or more of good
> reliable service, this thing is making me crazy!
>
> What to do?
>
> Thank you all in advance!
>
> Tinsby

Tinsby
November 15th 09, 05:38 PM
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:09:26 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> wrote:

>Did you take care of everything on the following page before otherwise
>connecting the machine to the internet or a network and before using a USB
>key that isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted?...
>
> 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx

HI PABear,

Did all of them as a matter of course, except all the many security
patches. I can't believe this is a security issue.


Thanks

Tinsby

PA Bear [MS MVP]
November 16th 09, 03:53 PM
Tinsby wrote:
>> Did you take care of everything on the following page before otherwise
>> connecting the machine to the internet or a network and before using a
>> USB
>> key that isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted?...
>>
>> 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
>
> Did all of them as a matter of course, except all the many security
> patches. I can't believe this is a security issue.

The proof is in the pudding, my friend: "You don't have persmission to
access this file."

Format & reinstall again, then take care of ALL 5 steps.

Tinsby[_2_]
November 18th 09, 06:39 AM
The proof might be in YOUR pudding but it ain't in mine. Even with the 60
odd security
patches the machine is unstable and unuseable.

The patches did nothing to solve the problem and only created more. The
system is
clean of any virus, malware, spyware, Trojans, worms or the like.

BTW I don't even OWN a USB Thumb drive.So say or think what you like but the
problems with this build aren't related to the 5 'MAGIC' solutions from the
boys
at Redmond.

There appears to be some program that is stealing the resources from the
system, I can see
HD activity when nothing should be accessing the drive. The machine has a
minimal amount
of programs on it for test purposes and it can't manage them. I will end up
reformatting the
bleeding thing but it won't be because of not having 60 patches on it. More
like a bad piece
of haggus I'd say.

Thanks for your advice but I'm not buying it.

Cheerio from Ol' Blighty

Tinsby



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Tinsby wrote:
>>> Did you take care of everything on the following page before otherwise
>>> connecting the machine to the internet or a network and before using a
>>> USB
>>> key that isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted?...
>>>
>>> 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
>>
>> Did all of them as a matter of course, except all the many security
>> patches. I can't believe this is a security issue.
>
> The proof is in the pudding, my friend: "You don't have persmission to
> access this file."
>
> Format & reinstall again, then take care of ALL 5 steps.

PA Bear [MS MVP]
November 18th 09, 07:21 AM
Getting the computer fully-patched is only 1 of the 5 steps.

Did you format the HDD & then reinstall Windows (not an image)?


Tinsby wrote:
> The proof might be in YOUR pudding but it ain't in mine. Even with the 60
> odd security
> patches the machine is unstable and unuseable.
>
> The patches did nothing to solve the problem and only created more. The
> system is
> clean of any virus, malware, spyware, Trojans, worms or the like.
>
> BTW I don't even OWN a USB Thumb drive.So say or think what you like but
> the
> problems with this build aren't related to the 5 'MAGIC' solutions from
> the
> boys
> at Redmond.
>
> There appears to be some program that is stealing the resources from the
> system, I can see
> HD activity when nothing should be accessing the drive. The machine has a
> minimal amount
> of programs on it for test purposes and it can't manage them. I will end
> up
> reformatting the
> bleeding thing but it won't be because of not having 60 patches on it.
> More
> like a bad piece
> of haggus I'd say.
>
> Thanks for your advice but I'm not buying it.
>
> Cheerio from Ol' Blighty
>
> Tinsby
>
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Tinsby wrote:
>>>> Did you take care of everything on the following page before otherwise
>>>> connecting the machine to the internet or a network and before using a
>>>> USB
>>>> key that isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted?...
>>>>
>>>> 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
>>>
>>> Did all of them as a matter of course, except all the many security
>>> patches. I can't believe this is a security issue.
>>
>> The proof is in the pudding, my friend: "You don't have persmission to
>> access this file."
>>
>> Format & reinstall again, then take care of ALL 5 steps.

Tinsby[_2_]
November 18th 09, 03:58 PM
I intend to reformat the drive and start over.This drive was new right out
of the box, but I did see that some of the same WD SATA drives of this size
(500GB) were DOA from the vendor's site.

I am beginning to think that this drive is suspect, the MB, RAM etc. are all
under warranty. I do not use image software at all for just that reason, why
save a copy that's as troublesome as the one you already have?

Don't think that the 5 tips are lost on me, they surely aren't I am most
careful when putting a new machine in harm's way IE: the internet.

Currently I am running only the bare minimum of programs just to see if the
machine will work and of course as we know it won't.
Another thing its doing is not filling in the taskbar on boot up, at times I
have to reboot it multiple times to get the taskbar to fill in. Other times
I can click
on any icon on the desktop and nothing happens at all, no warmings no
anything. The almost a minute later every icon I have clicked on will open
the
appropriate program!Right now I can't get either IE or Firefox to open, they
try to run but the window snaps shut each time.

This sounds to me like data isn't being written to the drive properly, or at
the very least accessed properly.
today I will reformat the drive and start over I only wish I hadn't wasted
registering the OS with this fiasco.

Regards,

Tinsby


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Getting the computer fully-patched is only 1 of the 5 steps.
>
> Did you format the HDD & then reinstall Windows (not an image)?
>
>
> Tinsby wrote:
>> The proof might be in YOUR pudding but it ain't in mine. Even with the 60
>> odd security
>> patches the machine is unstable and unuseable.
>>
>> The patches did nothing to solve the problem and only created more. The
>> system is
>> clean of any virus, malware, spyware, Trojans, worms or the like.
>>
>> BTW I don't even OWN a USB Thumb drive.So say or think what you like but
>> the
>> problems with this build aren't related to the 5 'MAGIC' solutions from
>> the
>> boys
>> at Redmond.
>>
>> There appears to be some program that is stealing the resources from the
>> system, I can see
>> HD activity when nothing should be accessing the drive. The machine has a
>> minimal amount
>> of programs on it for test purposes and it can't manage them. I will end
>> up
>> reformatting the
>> bleeding thing but it won't be because of not having 60 patches on it.
>> More
>> like a bad piece
>> of haggus I'd say.
>>
>> Thanks for your advice but I'm not buying it.
>>
>> Cheerio from Ol' Blighty
>>
>> Tinsby
>>
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Tinsby wrote:
>>>>> Did you take care of everything on the following page before otherwise
>>>>> connecting the machine to the internet or a network and before using a
>>>>> USB
>>>>> key that isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted?...
>>>>>
>>>>> 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
>>>>
>>>> Did all of them as a matter of course, except all the many security
>>>> patches. I can't believe this is a security issue.
>>>
>>> The proof is in the pudding, my friend: "You don't have persmission to
>>> access this file."
>>>
>>> Format & reinstall again, then take care of ALL 5 steps.
>

PA Bear [MS MVP]
November 18th 09, 04:38 PM
> I am beginning to think that this drive is suspect

Could be but it'd be unusual for it to cause "access denied" errors. That's
usually a sure sign of hijackware. Good luck!


Tinsby wrote:
> I intend to reformat the drive and start over.This drive was new right out
> of the box, but I did see that some of the same WD SATA drives of this
> size
> (500GB) were DOA from the vendor's site.
>
> I am beginning to think that this drive is suspect, the MB, RAM etc. are
> all
> under warranty. I do not use image software at all for just that reason,
> why
> save a copy that's as troublesome as the one you already have?
>
> Don't think that the 5 tips are lost on me, they surely aren't I am most
> careful when putting a new machine in harm's way IE: the internet.
>
> Currently I am running only the bare minimum of programs just to see if
> the
> machine will work and of course as we know it won't.
> Another thing its doing is not filling in the taskbar on boot up, at times
> I
> have to reboot it multiple times to get the taskbar to fill in. Other
> times
> I can click
> on any icon on the desktop and nothing happens at all, no warmings no
> anything. The almost a minute later every icon I have clicked on will open
> the
> appropriate program!Right now I can't get either IE or Firefox to open,
> they
> try to run but the window snaps shut each time.
>
> This sounds to me like data isn't being written to the drive properly, or
> at
> the very least accessed properly.
> today I will reformat the drive and start over I only wish I hadn't wasted
> registering the OS with this fiasco.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tinsby
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Getting the computer fully-patched is only 1 of the 5 steps.
>>
>> Did you format the HDD & then reinstall Windows (not an image)?
>>
>>
>> Tinsby wrote:
>>> The proof might be in YOUR pudding but it ain't in mine. Even with the
>>> 60
>>> odd security
>>> patches the machine is unstable and unuseable.
>>>
>>> The patches did nothing to solve the problem and only created more. The
>>> system is
>>> clean of any virus, malware, spyware, Trojans, worms or the like.
>>>
>>> BTW I don't even OWN a USB Thumb drive.So say or think what you like but
>>> the
>>> problems with this build aren't related to the 5 'MAGIC' solutions from
>>> the
>>> boys
>>> at Redmond.
>>>
>>> There appears to be some program that is stealing the resources from the
>>> system, I can see
>>> HD activity when nothing should be accessing the drive. The machine has
>>> a
>>> minimal amount
>>> of programs on it for test purposes and it can't manage them. I will end
>>> up
>>> reformatting the
>>> bleeding thing but it won't be because of not having 60 patches on it.
>>> More
>>> like a bad piece
>>> of haggus I'd say.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your advice but I'm not buying it.
>>>
>>> Cheerio from Ol' Blighty
>>>
>>> Tinsby
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Tinsby wrote:
>>>>>> Did you take care of everything on the following page before
>>>>>> otherwise
>>>>>> connecting the machine to the internet or a network and before using
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> USB
>>>>>> key that isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted?...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
>>>>>
>>>>> Did all of them as a matter of course, except all the many security
>>>>> patches. I can't believe this is a security issue.
>>>>
>>>> The proof is in the pudding, my friend: "You don't have persmission to
>>>> access this file."
>>>>
>>>> Format & reinstall again, then take care of ALL 5 steps.

Tinsby
November 18th 09, 08:24 PM
If in fact it was hijackware I'd expect the problem to be there all
the time and it isn't. I can't predict when it will occur and when it
won't that's the hell of it.

Tinsby



On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:38:28 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> wrote:

>> I am beginning to think that this drive is suspect
>
>Could be but it'd be unusual for it to cause "access denied" errors. That's
>usually a sure sign of hijackware. Good luck!
>
>
>Tinsby wrote:
>> I intend to reformat the drive and start over.This drive was new right out
>> of the box, but I did see that some of the same WD SATA drives of this
>> size
>> (500GB) were DOA from the vendor's site.
>>
>> I am beginning to think that this drive is suspect, the MB, RAM etc. are
>> all
>> under warranty. I do not use image software at all for just that reason,
>> why
>> save a copy that's as troublesome as the one you already have?
>>
>> Don't think that the 5 tips are lost on me, they surely aren't I am most
>> careful when putting a new machine in harm's way IE: the internet.
>>
>> Currently I am running only the bare minimum of programs just to see if
>> the
>> machine will work and of course as we know it won't.
>> Another thing its doing is not filling in the taskbar on boot up, at times
>> I
>> have to reboot it multiple times to get the taskbar to fill in. Other
>> times
>> I can click
>> on any icon on the desktop and nothing happens at all, no warmings no
>> anything. The almost a minute later every icon I have clicked on will open
>> the
>> appropriate program!Right now I can't get either IE or Firefox to open,
>> they
>> try to run but the window snaps shut each time.
>>
>> This sounds to me like data isn't being written to the drive properly, or
>> at
>> the very least accessed properly.
>> today I will reformat the drive and start over I only wish I hadn't wasted
>> registering the OS with this fiasco.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tinsby
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Getting the computer fully-patched is only 1 of the 5 steps.
>>>
>>> Did you format the HDD & then reinstall Windows (not an image)?
>>>
>>>
>>> Tinsby wrote:
>>>> The proof might be in YOUR pudding but it ain't in mine. Even with the
>>>> 60
>>>> odd security
>>>> patches the machine is unstable and unuseable.
>>>>
>>>> The patches did nothing to solve the problem and only created more. The
>>>> system is
>>>> clean of any virus, malware, spyware, Trojans, worms or the like.
>>>>
>>>> BTW I don't even OWN a USB Thumb drive.So say or think what you like but
>>>> the
>>>> problems with this build aren't related to the 5 'MAGIC' solutions from
>>>> the
>>>> boys
>>>> at Redmond.
>>>>
>>>> There appears to be some program that is stealing the resources from the
>>>> system, I can see
>>>> HD activity when nothing should be accessing the drive. The machine has
>>>> a
>>>> minimal amount
>>>> of programs on it for test purposes and it can't manage them. I will end
>>>> up
>>>> reformatting the
>>>> bleeding thing but it won't be because of not having 60 patches on it.
>>>> More
>>>> like a bad piece
>>>> of haggus I'd say.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your advice but I'm not buying it.
>>>>
>>>> Cheerio from Ol' Blighty
>>>>
>>>> Tinsby
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Tinsby wrote:
>>>>>>> Did you take care of everything on the following page before
>>>>>>> otherwise
>>>>>>> connecting the machine to the internet or a network and before using
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> USB
>>>>>>> key that isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted?...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
>>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did all of them as a matter of course, except all the many security
>>>>>> patches. I can't believe this is a security issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> The proof is in the pudding, my friend: "You don't have persmission to
>>>>> access this file."
>>>>>
>>>>> Format & reinstall again, then take care of ALL 5 steps.

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