Windows XP Will Be An Unsupported OS On April 8th, 2014!

[Kevin John Panzke[_2_]]

On April A 8th, 2014, Microsoft Will Discontinue All Support 4 Windows
XP!

[Kevin John Panzke[_2_]]

Now Is The Time 2 Upgrade 2 Either Windows 7, Windows Vista Service
Pack 2, And/Or Open Source Linux Ubuntu!

[Bob I]

You realize that is over FOUR YEARS AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kevin John Panzke wrote:

> On April A 8th, 2014, Microsoft Will Discontinue All Support 4 Windows
> XP!

[Bob I]

Y the rush?

Kevin John Panzke wrote:

> Now Is The Time 2 Upgrade 2 Either Windows 7, Windows Vista Service
> Pack 2, And/Or Open Source Linux Ubuntu!
>

[Bill in Co.]

Kevin John Panzke wrote:
> Now Is The Time 2 Upgrade 2 Either Windows 7, Windows Vista Service
> Pack 2, And/Or Open Source Linux Ubuntu!

Thanks, but no thanks. XP is just fine, thank you. :-)

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Yes, Extended Support for WinXP SP3 (only) ends in 2014, per Windows Life
Cycle policy. Support for WinXP SP2 ends much sooner than that & support
for WinXP SP1 & WinXP Gold ended in 2006.

Kevin John Panzke wrote:
> On April A 8th, 2014, Microsoft Will Discontinue All Support 4 Windows
> XP!

[John Hacker]

That is when we will get the final patch to let us continue using XP without
the need of ACTIVATION should it be necessary to re-install. M$ is
committed to support its customers and keep nutters using ubuntu out.



"Kevin John Panzke" > wrote in message
...
> On April A 8th, 2014, Microsoft Will Discontinue All Support 4 Windows
> XP!

[KEVIN JOHN PANZKE]

John Hacker wrote:
>
> That is when we will get the final patch to let us continue using XP
> without the need of ACTIVATION should it be necessary to re-install. M$
> is committed to support its customers and keep nutters using ubuntu out.
>
>
>
> "Kevin John Panzke" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On April A 8th, 2014, Microsoft Will Discontinue All Support 4 Windows
>> XP!
>
And Just Where Is That Long Over Due Patch 4 Microsoft Money Plus?

Face It People, In 2014 You Will No Longer Be Able 2 Activate XP!

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Bob I" > wrote in message
...
> You realize that is over FOUR YEARS AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Kevin John Panzke wrote:
>
>> On April A 8th, 2014, Microsoft Will Discontinue All Support 4 Windows
>> XP!
>

I think the meds he takes distorts his sense of time and reality :-)

[KEVIN JOHN PANZKE]

P.S. I Now Have My Own Wire-Less ISP Which Does Not Have An Abuse Alias,
Just FYI!

[Kevin]

That's a progress in the 21st century boy!!! People in Timbuktu had
wireless and mobile phones in the 15th century and yanks proved it by
digging in that country and found no wires. Thus a proof that wireless
existed then!!!







KEVIN JOHN PANZKE wrote:

> P.S. I Now Have My Own Wire-Less ISP Which Does Not Have An Abuse Alias,
> Just FYI!

[Terry R.[_2_]]

On 11/16/2009 2:41 PM On a whim, Kevin John Panzke pounded out on the
keyboard

> Now Is The Time 2 Upgrade 2 Either Windows 7, Windows Vista Service
> Pack 2, And/Or Open Source Linux Ubuntu!
>

Why "Now Is The Time"? You do realize you typed 2014, and this is 2009,
right?

An operating system was designed to allow hardware and software to work
together, to allow a user to get work done more easily. MS did a good
job of that with W2K/XP. I haven't had any problems getting
motherboards that that don't come with XP drivers yet.

If someone has to move to a newer OS, it won't be because XP can't do
the job. It will be because hardware and software vendors write
specifically for the newer OS, leaving the old one behind. As long as
hardware and software is written for an OS that allows a user to get
their work done, there will never be a reason to upgrade. Why should we
keep throwing away perfectly good hardware just so these company CEO's
can make their millions?


Terry R.
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[(PeteCresswell)]

Per Bill in Co.:
>
>Thanks, but no thanks. XP is just fine, thank you. :-)

Which begs a question: has anybody found features in 7 that make
an upgrade from XP attractive?

I fooled around with my neighbor's Vista box for awhile, got
stuck with Vista on an el-cheapo machine I got for somebody in
the family... but have been unable to find any Vista features
that grabbed me. I'm not saying there aren't any - just that
none jumped out at me when I was fooling around with the boxes.

So... is there something in 7 that one should look in to?
--
PeteCresswell

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per John Hacker:
>That is when we will get the final patch to let us continue using XP without
>the need of ACTIVATION should it be necessary to re-install.

Could somebody put a finer point on that?

Is there going tb a problem doing a fresh install of XP after
some date?
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PeteCresswell

[Terry R.[_2_]]

On 11/16/2009 4:13 PM On a whim, (PeteCresswell) pounded out on the keyboard

> Per Bill in Co.:
>> Thanks, but no thanks. XP is just fine, thank you. :-)
>
> Which begs a question: has anybody found features in 7 that make
> an upgrade from XP attractive?
>
> I fooled around with my neighbor's Vista box for awhile, got
> stuck with Vista on an el-cheapo machine I got for somebody in
> the family... but have been unable to find any Vista features
> that grabbed me. I'm not saying there aren't any - just that
> none jumped out at me when I was fooling around with the boxes.
>
> So... is there something in 7 that one should look in to?

The biggest "feature" I see is using Win7 & WS2008 and "Direct Access",
where you can log in anywhere as if you were in the office. That's
nice, but RDP still works...


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[Terry R.[_2_]]

On 11/16/2009 3:12 PM On a whim, KEVIN JOHN PANZKE pounded out on the
keyboard

> John Hacker wrote:
>> That is when we will get the final patch to let us continue using XP
>> without the need of ACTIVATION should it be necessary to re-install. M$
>> is committed to support its customers and keep nutters using ubuntu out.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kevin John > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On April A 8th, 2014, Microsoft Will Discontinue All Support 4 Windows
>>> XP!
> And Just Where Is That Long Over Due Patch 4 Microsoft Money Plus?
>
> Face It People, In 2014 You Will No Longer Be Able 2 Activate XP!

Write back in 4½ years and let's see if it's an issue...


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[rjk]

"Kevin John Panzke" > wrote in message
...
> On April A 8th, 2014, Microsoft Will Discontinue All Support 4 Windows
> XP!

I stuck with W98se for a few months after XP was released, and my eventual
move to XP platforms was inexorable !
I suspect that the move to Windows 7 will also be unavoidable. (...having
given Vista a compelete miss !!! )

The few machines I've worked on with Vista installed, gave me the impression
that it was simply XP "prettied up a bit" and with security settings wound
up to the highest settings, so that, for example, you couldn't even drop a
new hosts file into the etc directory without making some sort of
"permissioned" "macro" to do it !!!! ...b****y joke if you ask me !!

regards, Richard

[Roy Smith[_7_]]

Kevin John Panzke wrote:
> On April A 8th, 2014, Microsoft Will Discontinue All Support 4 Windows
> XP!


Which is a little over 4 years from now... so your point is??


--

Roy Smith
Windows XP Pro SP3

[Roy Smith[_7_]]

Kevin John Panzke wrote:
> Now Is The Time 2 Upgrade 2 Either Windows 7, Windows Vista Service
> Pack 2, And/Or Open Source Linux Ubuntu!


And what, have to upgrade Ubuntu every 6 months or 2 years for the LTS
release? No thank you. I'll just upgrade when this Laptop dies and has
to be replaced as it does what I want it to right now.


--

Roy Smith
Windows XP Pro SP3

[Electro Lytes]

"Bob I" > wrote in message
...
> You realize that is over FOUR YEARS AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He doesn't have the grasp on the "time" concept. He hasn't taken his MEDS
today.


>
> Kevin John Panzke wrote:
>
>> On April A 8th, 2014, Microsoft Will Discontinue All Support 4 Windows
>> XP!
>

[Electro Lytes]

"KEVIN JOHN PANZKE" > wrote in message
...
> P.S. I Now Have My Own Wire-Less ISP Which Does Not Have An Abuse Alias,
> Just FYI!

You ARE the abuse with your ill informed posts. Better speak with your
doctor and make sure you are taking the correct medication.

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per Terry R.:
>
>The biggest "feature" I see is using Win7 & WS2008 and "Direct Access",
>where you can log in anywhere as if you were in the office. That's
>nice, but RDP still works...

I call that a killer feature. Doesn't do me any good at home
bc I have a WSH box that facilitates the same thing.

But tb able to connect to my #2 daughter's machine when she's
having problems 90 miles away.... Now *that* gets me thinking
about 7. Any idea if both machines have tb 7 or just the one
being connected to?
--
PeteCresswell

[Terry R.[_2_]]

On 11/17/2009 1:25 PM On a whim, (PeteCresswell) pounded out on the keyboard

> Per Terry R.:
>> The biggest "feature" I see is using Win7& WS2008 and "Direct Access",
>> where you can log in anywhere as if you were in the office. That's
>> nice, but RDP still works...
>
> I call that a killer feature. Doesn't do me any good at home
> bc I have a WSH box that facilitates the same thing.
>
> But tb able to connect to my #2 daughter's machine when she's
> having problems 90 miles away.... Now *that* gets me thinking
> about 7. Any idea if both machines have tb 7 or just the one
> being connected to?

You misunderstood. It doesn't work between workstations, but between
Win7 workstations and Windows Server 2008.

You can still connect to your daughter's machine using VNC & DynamicDNS
or something similar.


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[Rick]

(PeteCresswell) wrote:
> Per Bill in Co.:
>> Thanks, but no thanks. XP is just fine, thank you. :-)
>
> Which begs a question: has anybody found features in 7 that make
> an upgrade from XP attractive?
>
> I fooled around with my neighbor's Vista box for awhile, got
> stuck with Vista on an el-cheapo machine I got for somebody in
> the family... but have been unable to find any Vista features
> that grabbed me. I'm not saying there aren't any - just that
> none jumped out at me when I was fooling around with the boxes.
>
> So... is there something in 7 that one should look in to?
I had the same experience. Win7 can wait as far as I am concerned. It
seems to me that XP is one of the best OS's MS has ever released.

[[email protected] net]

"(PeteCresswell)" > wrote in message
...
> Per John Hacker:
>>That is when we will get the final patch to let us continue using XP
>>without
>>the need of ACTIVATION should it be necessary to re-install.
>
> Could somebody put a finer point on that?
>
> Is there going tb a problem doing a fresh install of XP after
> some date?
> --
> PeteCresswell

There's a problem now with activation of XP. After my recent fresh
reformat/reinstall, my XP says "you have activated too many times", so I
listen to the lady go on and on, then finally she says "let's get started".
So I do what she says, get up to the last group of numbers, and she says she
can't understand me, I say continue, she says you'll have to talk to
someone, I say continue, she says she can't make out what I'm saying, so I
get to talk to a fellow in India, or a lady in Okinawa, not sure which it
was this last time, it's usually India, and they ask how many computers this
sytems is on, I say only one, it's illegal to put it on more than one and I
just reinstalled due to a virus, and they have to go through all 60 numbers
again because the automatic lady used different numbers than they have. It
actually took a long longer to accomplish than it took just now to write it
down.

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

And what does this have to do with the topic at hand and why have you had to
format/reinstall so many times anyway?

net wrote:
> There's a problem now with activation of XP. After my recent fresh
> reformat/reinstall, my XP says "you have activated too many times", so I
> listen to the lady go on and on, then finally she says "let's get
> started".
> So I do what she says, get up to the last group of numbers, and she says
> she
> can't understand me, I say continue, she says you'll have to talk to
> someone, I say continue, she says she can't make out what I'm saying, so I
> get to talk to a fellow in India, or a lady in Okinawa, not sure which it
> was this last time, it's usually India, and they ask how many computers
> this
> sytems is on, I say only one, it's illegal to put it on more than one and
> I
> just reinstalled due to a virus, and they have to go through all 60
> numbers
> again because the automatic lady used different numbers than they have.
> It
> actually took a long longer to accomplish than it took just now to write
> it
> down.

[[email protected] net]

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> And what does this have to do with the topic at hand and why have you had
> to format/reinstall so many times anyway?
>
> net wrote:
>> There's a problem now with activation of XP. After my recent fresh
>> reformat/reinstall, my XP says "you have activated too many times", so I
>> listen to the lady go on and on, then finally she says "let's get
>> started".
>> So I do what she says, get up to the last group of numbers, and she says
>> she
>> can't understand me, I say continue, she says you'll have to talk to
>> someone, I say continue, she says she can't make out what I'm saying, so
>> I
>> get to talk to a fellow in India, or a lady in Okinawa, not sure which it
>> was this last time, it's usually India, and they ask how many computers
>> this
>> sytems is on, I say only one, it's illegal to put it on more than one and
>> I
>> just reinstalled due to a virus, and they have to go through all 60
>> numbers
>> again because the automatic lady used different numbers than they have.
>> It
>> actually took a long longer to accomplish than it took just now to write
>> it
>> down.


Excuse me if I made an error, but I thought the topic of this thread was
support for WinXP. To my way of thinking, said support includes the
requirement for Microsoft to 'activate' the operating system whenever
required on a legitimate system. If we can get past this concern of yours,
perhaps we can get to the meat of the problem, which is, as I suggested, the
requirement for Microsoft to activate the operating system on a legitimate
system. I would really appreciate knowing what the 'magic' number of
activations is that prompts the operating system to say 'you've activated
too many times'. I've asked Microsoft tech support and Microsoft customer
service that questions by all means possible, except of course paying for
the opportunity to talk to them, which is now apparently required, and now
one seems to know the answer. Does anyone know?

Kernel32

[ANONYMOUS[_2_]]

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

> why have you had to format/reinstall so many times anyway?
>
>
So that he can ask you a question or keep you busy by making you post a
message even if it has nothing to do with you. Is that OK?

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

net wrote:
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
>> And what does this have to do with the topic at hand and why have you had
>> to format/reinstall so many times anyway?
>>
>> net wrote:
>>> There's a problem now with activation of XP. After my recent fresh
>>> reformat/reinstall, my XP says "you have activated too many times", so I
>>> listen to the lady go on and on, then finally she says "let's get
>>> started".
>>> So I do what she says, get up to the last group of numbers, and she says
>>> she
>>> can't understand me, I say continue, she says you'll have to talk to
>>> someone, I say continue, she says she can't make out what I'm saying, so
>>> I
>>> get to talk to a fellow in India, or a lady in Okinawa, not sure which
>>> it
>>> was this last time, it's usually India, and they ask how many computers
>>> this
>>> sytems is on, I say only one, it's illegal to put it on more than one
>>> and
>>> I
>>> just reinstalled due to a virus, and they have to go through all 60
>>> numbers
>>> again because the automatic lady used different numbers than they have.
>>> It
>>> actually took a long longer to accomplish than it took just now to write
>>> it
>>> down.
>
>
> Excuse me if I made an error, but I thought the topic of this thread was
> support for WinXP. To my way of thinking, said support includes the
> requirement for Microsoft to 'activate' the operating system whenever
> required on a legitimate system. If we can get past this concern of
> yours,
> perhaps we can get to the meat of the problem, which is, as I suggested,
> the
> requirement for Microsoft to activate the operating system on a legitimate
> system. I would really appreciate knowing what the 'magic' number of
> activations is that prompts the operating system to say 'you've activated
> too many times'. I've asked Microsoft tech support and Microsoft customer
> service that questions by all means possible, except of course paying for
> the opportunity to talk to them, which is now apparently required, and now
> one seems to know the answer. Does anyone know?

OK, we'll bottom-post.

The topic of this thread is simply "Windows XP Will Be An Unsupported OS On
April 8th, 2014!" (which is totally BS).

Your activation issues are not germane to the topic at-hand. That being
said, if you're having problems Activating (again)...

Please visit http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/ and click on the Validate
Windows and/or Validate Office button then restart your computer.

If you weren't able to Validate, proceed as follows:

1. Download this diagnostic tool, saving it to your desktop:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=56062

=> WinXP: Double-click on the executable to run the tool.

=> Vista & Win7: Right-click on the executable and select Run as
Administrator to run the tool.

2. After running the tool, click on the Windows and/or Office tab as
appropriate and then click on Copy to Clipboard.

NB: You may want to open a new Notepad file, paste the contents of your
clipboard into it & save for future reference.

3. Begin a new post in the appropriate Microsoft Genine Advantage forum and
paste the results of the WGA Diagnostic Data in a detailed post:
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/genuine

4. A troubleshooting specialist will analyze the data and recommend an
appropriate solution.

[HeyBub]

(PeteCresswell) wrote:
> Per Terry R.:
>>
>> The biggest "feature" I see is using Win7 & WS2008 and "Direct
>> Access", where you can log in anywhere as if you were in the office.
>> That's nice, but RDP still works...
>
> I call that a killer feature. Doesn't do me any good at home
> bc I have a WSH box that facilitates the same thing.
>
> But tb able to connect to my #2 daughter's machine when she's
> having problems 90 miles away.... Now *that* gets me thinking
> about 7. Any idea if both machines have tb 7 or just the one
> being connected to?

Consider TeamViewer. Dirt simple. Your daughter runs a small executable (can
be from USB stick), she tells you via 'phone or email what the access code
is, and her screen, mouse, and keyboard are translated to your machine.

[Mark Adams[_2_]]

net" wrote:

>
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > And what does this have to do with the topic at hand and why have you had
> > to format/reinstall so many times anyway?
> >
> > net wrote:
> >> There's a problem now with activation of XP. After my recent fresh
> >> reformat/reinstall, my XP says "you have activated too many times", so I
> >> listen to the lady go on and on, then finally she says "let's get
> >> started".
> >> So I do what she says, get up to the last group of numbers, and she says
> >> she
> >> can't understand me, I say continue, she says you'll have to talk to
> >> someone, I say continue, she says she can't make out what I'm saying, so
> >> I
> >> get to talk to a fellow in India, or a lady in Okinawa, not sure which it
> >> was this last time, it's usually India, and they ask how many computers
> >> this
> >> sytems is on, I say only one, it's illegal to put it on more than one and
> >> I
> >> just reinstalled due to a virus, and they have to go through all 60
> >> numbers
> >> again because the automatic lady used different numbers than they have.
> >> It
> >> actually took a long longer to accomplish than it took just now to write
> >> it
> >> down.
>
>
> Excuse me if I made an error, but I thought the topic of this thread was
> support for WinXP. To my way of thinking, said support includes the
> requirement for Microsoft to 'activate' the operating system whenever
> required on a legitimate system. If we can get past this concern of yours,
> perhaps we can get to the meat of the problem, which is, as I suggested, the
> requirement for Microsoft to activate the operating system on a legitimate
> system. I would really appreciate knowing what the 'magic' number of
> activations is that prompts the operating system to say 'you've activated
> too many times'. I've asked Microsoft tech support and Microsoft customer
> service that questions by all means possible, except of course paying for
> the opportunity to talk to them, which is now apparently required, and now
> one seems to know the answer. Does anyone know?
>
> Kernel32
>
>
> .
>

See the following KB article for a description of Product Activation:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302806

The "Magic Number" of activations is one (1). If activation thinks you have
used your Product Key on more than one computer, you will get that warning.
The Product Activation process is not infallable; that's why phone activation
is provided. This allows a live person to override the automated activation
if there is an error.

The first paragraph under "More Information" states (copy/paste) "you are
allowed to reinstall and activate the software on the same computer an
unlimited number of times."

The "hash" referred to in the article is how Windows keeps track of hardware
changes you make on your computer. Make a few changes and you might be
required to reactivate. Most of the time activation proceeds without
incident. If enough changes are made that activation thinks your product key
has been used on a second computer; you'll get that message.

The bottom line is that you CAN reactivate an unlimited number of times on
the SAME computer; but you may have to make a phone call to do it. How many
changes constitutes a "different" computer is up to the maker of the computer
to decide, not Microsoft. If you are the builder of the computer, then you
get to decide if it's the "same" computer or not. "I've got my great
grandpa's axe. Been in the family a long time. Of course the head has been
changed twice, and the handle five times; but it's the same axe."

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per HeyBub:
>
>Consider TeamViewer. Dirt simple. Your daughter runs a small executable (can
>be from USB stick), she tells you via 'phone or email what the access code
>is, and her screen, mouse, and keyboard are translated to your machine.

Holy Shimoley!!!!

Now *that* is a nice piece of work.

Installed it on my itty-bitty laptop.
Installed it on my backup PC.
Typed in ID/PW.
Bingo!

Thanks!!!

BTW, just to prove that no good deed goes unpunished, could you
comment on the advisability/necessity of using VPN along with it?

I don't even know if it works across the Internet w/o VPN - and I
don't even know if XP can function as a VPN server... but if it
does work without VPN is it a mistake to use it that way?
--
PeteCresswell

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per (PeteCresswell):
>Now *that* is a nice piece of work.

In the nit-picking department: this is the first application I've
seen where the developers seem to have put some thought into the
ergonomics of presentation of long numbers.

For instance, if an ID is 123456789, they present it as
123 456 789 and accept that representation as well as the
contiguous chars.
--
PeteCresswell

[Bill Sharpe]

Kevin John Panzke wrote:
> On April A 8th, 2014, Microsoft Will Discontinue All Support 4 Windows
> XP!
....and this bit of information requires an explanation point at the end?

Bill