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Shab[_2_]
November 17th 09, 01:06 AM
From "MAD" magazine, January 2010 (yes, that's right, 2010)

The Fast Five

5 reasons why Microsoft thinks you'll love Windows 7

1. It includes even more useful features stolen from Apple.

2. Your computer will run much faster because you won't be able to load
most of your old programs

3. Less use of the word "Vista" means less instances of involuntary
twitching amongst PC users everywhere.

4. Newly designed front screen is cleaner, so it's much easier to read
Fatal Error messages.

5. PC users will enjoy a "virus_free feeling" for two weeks while hackers
prepare major security breaches for Windows 7.

Get your Windows 7 today!

philo
November 17th 09, 01:29 AM
Shab wrote:
> From "MAD" magazine, January 2010 (yes, that's right, 2010)
>
> The Fast Five
>
> 5 reasons why Microsoft thinks you'll love Windows 7
>
> 1. It includes even more useful features stolen from Apple.
>
> 2. Your computer will run much faster because you won't be able to load
> most of your old programs
>
> 3. Less use of the word "Vista" means less instances of involuntary
> twitching amongst PC users everywhere.
>
> 4. Newly designed front screen is cleaner, so it's much easier to read
> Fatal Error messages.
>
> 5. PC users will enjoy a "virus_free feeling" for two weeks while hackers
> prepare major security breaches for Windows 7.
>
> Get your Windows 7 today!
>
>
>
>
>
Nice to heard MAD magazine is still around

used to read it when I was kid *many* years ago!

VanguardLH[_2_]
November 17th 09, 09:30 AM
Shab wrote:

> From "MAD" magazine, January 2010 (yes, that's right, 2010)
>
> The Fast Five
>
> 5 reasons why Microsoft thinks you'll love Windows 7
>
> 1. It includes even more useful features stolen from Apple.
>
> 2. Your computer will run much faster because you won't be able to load
> most of your old programs
>
> 3. Less use of the word "Vista" means less instances of involuntary
> twitching amongst PC users everywhere.
>
> 4. Newly designed front screen is cleaner, so it's much easier to read
> Fatal Error messages.
>
> 5. PC users will enjoy a "virus_free feeling" for two weeks while hackers
> prepare major security breaches for Windows 7.
>
> Get your Windows 7 today!

This newsgroup discusses Windows *XP*. For where to discuss Windows 7,
go to:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/category/w7itpro

JohnO[_2_]
November 18th 09, 02:07 PM
Trying to catch up here...I take it the Win 7 groups don't/won't have nntp??

-JohnO

"VanguardLH" > wrote in message
...
> Shab wrote:
>
>> From "MAD" magazine, January 2010 (yes, that's right, 2010)
>>
>> The Fast Five
>>
>> 5 reasons why Microsoft thinks you'll love Windows 7
>>
>> 1. It includes even more useful features stolen from Apple.
>>
>> 2. Your computer will run much faster because you won't be able to load
>> most of your old programs
>>
>> 3. Less use of the word "Vista" means less instances of involuntary
>> twitching amongst PC users everywhere.
>>
>> 4. Newly designed front screen is cleaner, so it's much easier to read
>> Fatal Error messages.
>>
>> 5. PC users will enjoy a "virus_free feeling" for two weeks while
>> hackers
>> prepare major security breaches for Windows 7.
>>
>> Get your Windows 7 today!
>
> This newsgroup discusses Windows *XP*. For where to discuss Windows 7,
> go to:
>
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/category/w7itpro

Gordon
November 18th 09, 02:19 PM
"JohnO" > wrote in message
...
> Trying to catch up here...I take it the Win 7 groups don't/won't have
> nntp??
>

correct - I suspect mainly due to the idiots in the Vista General group....

JohnO[_2_]
November 18th 09, 02:27 PM
>> Trying to catch up here...I take it the Win 7 groups don't/won't have
>> nntp??
>>
>
> correct - I suspect mainly due to the idiots in the Vista General
> group....

Thanks. That interface blows.

Tim Slattery
November 18th 09, 05:26 PM
"JohnO" > wrote:

>Trying to catch up here...I take it the Win 7 groups don't/won't have nntp??

Not directly. But MS is working on what they call a "bridge". A piece
of software that will read the forums and then act as an NNTP server
that you can aim your newsreader at to read from and post to the
groups. At this point it's in beta and I haven't used it, so I'm not
recommending for or against. It's available here:
https://connect.microsoft.com/site/sitehome.aspx?SiteID=927

--
Tim Slattery

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

milt
November 18th 09, 10:51 PM
JohnO wrote:
> Trying to catch up here...I take it the Win 7 groups don't/won't have nntp??
>
> -JohnO
>

Nope, it does not look like Microsoft will make newsgroups on this
server for Windows 7.

Bruce Chambers
November 19th 09, 01:46 AM
Tim Slattery wrote:
> "JohnO" > wrote:
>
>> Trying to catch up here...I take it the Win 7 groups don't/won't have nntp??
>
> Not directly. But MS is working on what they call a "bridge". A piece
> of software that will read the forums and then act as an NNTP server
> that you can aim your newsreader at to read from and post to the
> groups. At this point it's in beta and I haven't used it, so I'm not
> recommending for or against. It's available here:
> https://connect.microsoft.com/site/sitehome.aspx?SiteID=927
>


I'll chime in to say that the Beta 2 of the NNTP Bridge works fairly
well for me, using Win7 Ultimate and Thunderbird as a news reader, but
it is noticeably slower to download posts than a real NNTP connection.
(But not so slow that I'd ever consider accessing those forums any other
way!)


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

John E. Carty
November 19th 09, 02:42 AM
"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> Tim Slattery wrote:
>> "JohnO" > wrote:
>>
>>> Trying to catch up here...I take it the Win 7 groups don't/won't have
>>> nntp??
>>
>> Not directly. But MS is working on what they call a "bridge". A piece
>> of software that will read the forums and then act as an NNTP server
>> that you can aim your newsreader at to read from and post to the
>> groups. At this point it's in beta and I haven't used it, so I'm not
>> recommending for or against. It's available here:
>> https://connect.microsoft.com/site/sitehome.aspx?SiteID=927
>
>
> I'll chime in to say that the Beta 2 of the NNTP Bridge works fairly well
> for me, using Win7 Ultimate and Thunderbird as a news reader, but it is
> noticeably slower to download posts than a real NNTP connection. (But not
> so slow that I'd ever consider accessing those forums any other way!)

Do you have any problems posting to the forums? I can pull down all the
postings using Windows Live Mail (and yes it is really slow) but cannot
reply as it just sits forever trying to post my replies :-(


>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
> Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot

Gordon
November 19th 09, 08:04 AM
"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
>
> I'll chime in to say that the Beta 2 of the NNTP Bridge works fairly well
> for me, using Win7 Ultimate and Thunderbird as a news reader, but it is
> noticeably slower to download posts than a real NNTP connection. (But not
> so slow that I'd ever consider accessing those forums any other way!)
>

How does it cope with the people who write a whole page in what ought to be
the "subject" line?

Geordie
November 19th 09, 08:35 AM
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:04:32 -0000, "Gordon" >
compiled the following:

>
>"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> I'll chime in to say that the Beta 2 of the NNTP Bridge works fairly well
>> for me, using Win7 Ultimate and Thunderbird as a news reader, but it is
>> noticeably slower to download posts than a real NNTP connection. (But not
>> so slow that I'd ever consider accessing those forums any other way!)
>>
>
>How does it cope with the people who write a whole page in what ought to be
>the "subject" line?

I use it with Gpg4win (Claws Mail) and that puts up a rectangular
bubble with the full subject when you hover over the subject line of
the post.
It also allows you to post into the forums too.
As "Bruce Chambers" mentioned, it is a tad slower at d/l the messages,
but it is still OK to use.
--
Geordie
Usenet, how to post info:
http://www.dickgaughan.co.uk/usenet/guide/faq08-topp.html
http://www.i-hate-computers.demon.co.uk/quote.html

Roy Smith[_7_]
November 20th 09, 12:26 PM
John E. Carty wrote:
>
>
> "Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Tim Slattery wrote:
>>> "JohnO" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Trying to catch up here...I take it the Win 7 groups don't/won't
>>>> have nntp??
>>>
>>> Not directly. But MS is working on what they call a "bridge". A piece
>>> of software that will read the forums and then act as an NNTP server
>>> that you can aim your newsreader at to read from and post to the
>>> groups. At this point it's in beta and I haven't used it, so I'm not
>>> recommending for or against. It's available here:
>>> https://connect.microsoft.com/site/sitehome.aspx?SiteID=927
>>
>>
>> I'll chime in to say that the Beta 2 of the NNTP Bridge works fairly
>> well for me, using Win7 Ultimate and Thunderbird as a news reader, but
>> it is noticeably slower to download posts than a real NNTP connection.
>> (But not so slow that I'd ever consider accessing those forums any
>> other way!)
>
> Do you have any problems posting to the forums? I can pull down all the
> postings using Windows Live Mail (and yes it is really slow) but cannot
> reply as it just sits forever trying to post my replies :-(
>
>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Chambers
>>
>> Help us help you:
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>>
>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>>
>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
>> Russell
>>
>> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
>> killed a great many philosophers.


No I don't have any problems posting to the forums. I'm using the NNTP
Bridge with Thunderbird on this WinXP Pro box. This program is a really
nifty idea. Now if they can make it work with other non-Microsoft
forums it would be even better.


--

Roy Smith
Windows XP Pro SP3

Tim Slattery
November 20th 09, 01:35 PM
Roy Smith > wrote:


>No I don't have any problems posting to the forums. I'm using the NNTP
>Bridge with Thunderbird on this WinXP Pro box. This program is a really
>nifty idea. Now if they can make it work with other non-Microsoft
>forums it would be even better.

And THAT is one of the problems with forums. There are many
incompatible proprietary systems. No overarching standard as with
NNTP. You can't use single reader for any group (your browser, of
course, but each proprietary forum will operate differently).

Not to mention that the posts become the forum owners property,
maintained only on their servers. If the owner decides to stop
offering the forum, the posts will probably vanish. If the owner
decides to free disk space, the posts can vanish. With the wide open
NNTP system, you can go to news.google.groups and find lots of things.
It's not perfect, I know, but will you ever be able to search a system
like that to find information in multiple web forums?

--
Tim Slattery

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

Bruce Chambers
November 20th 09, 04:35 PM
John E. Carty wrote:
>
>
>
> Do you have any problems posting to the forums? I can pull down all the
> postings using Windows Live Mail (and yes it is really slow) but cannot
> reply as it just sits forever trying to post my replies :-(
>

I did get an error message initially when I tried to reply to a couple
of posts, but those went away after I learned to have Thunderbird
already open before I started the NNTP Bridge. And, of course, it is a
beta, so I wasn't to surprised to experience some glitches.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

Bruce Chambers
November 20th 09, 04:39 PM
Gordon wrote:
>

>
> How does it cope with the people who write a whole page in what ought to
> be the "subject" line?


Those posts show up the same way, and are annoying. I simply cannot
understand how the posters can possibly be so inept. I just move on to
read the posts that are properly made. If people want help, they can at
least make the effort to post correctly. I figure that if they can't
manage such a simple task, they're not going to be able to follow any
advice I might offer, anyway.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

deejaydee
November 20th 09, 10:21 PM
is it so hard to respond correctly when a person needs help

"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> John E. Carty wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you have any problems posting to the forums? I can pull down all the
>> postings using Windows Live Mail (and yes it is really slow) but cannot
>> reply as it just sits forever trying to post my replies :-(
>>
>
> I did get an error message initially when I tried to reply to a couple of
> posts, but those went away after I learned to have Thunderbird already
> open before I started the NNTP Bridge. And, of course, it is a beta, so I
> wasn't to surprised to experience some glitches.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
> Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot

ANONYMOUS[_2_]
November 20th 09, 11:22 PM
deejaydee wrote:

>is it so hard to respond correctly when a person needs help
>
>
>
>
>
YES especially if you are a member of the elite group of pigs AKA
MVPs. When posting, always exclude specifically anybody calling
themselves MVPs after their name. This way you are likely to get
correct reply from someone who is currently working with Microsoft
technologies. MVPs are a bunch of retired geriatrics who have no clue
how current businesses operate in the current market conditions.

hope this was helpful.

ANONYMOUS[_2_]
November 20th 09, 11:25 PM
Bruce Chambers wrote:

> I just move on to read the posts that are properly made.

Is this the only way to get rid of you and your fellow pigs from
annoying Microsoft customers on these newsgroups?

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