Windows XP Tweaks by email...

[Marc Liron]

I have written a series of emails detailing some excellent
Windows XP Tweaks.

They are FREE and available at:

http://www.updatexp.com

Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"

Regards

Marc Liron

[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

If you have valid tweaks and you are NOT going to use the e-mail addresses
for any other purpose then why require an e-mail address ??
If you are genuine then post your 30 tweaks openly on your web site and do
not expect users to blindly give you their addresses "on faith"


--
Regards,

Mike
--
Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights

Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
Please use these newsgroups

"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
...
> I have written a series of emails detailing some excellent
> Windows XP Tweaks.
>
> They are FREE and available at:
>
> http://www.updatexp.com
>
> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
>
> Regards
>
> Marc Liron

[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

If you have valid tweaks and you are NOT going to use the e-mail addresses
for any other purpose then why require an e-mail address ??
If you are genuine then post your 30 tweaks openly on your web site and do
not expect users to blindly give you their addresses "on faith"


--
Regards,

Mike
--
Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights

Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
Please use these newsgroups

"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
...
> I have written a series of emails detailing some excellent
> Windows XP Tweaks.
>
> They are FREE and available at:
>
> http://www.updatexp.com
>
> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
>
> Regards
>
> Marc Liron

[Harry Ohrn]

I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their e-mail address to
you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document, up it to your site
and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you are not swamped
with email requests and people don't have to give out their address. If you
are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is nothing wrong with that,
then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much spam being sent out.

--

Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
...
> I have written a series of emails detailing some excellent
> Windows XP Tweaks.
>
> They are FREE and available at:
>
> http://www.updatexp.com
>
> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
>
> Regards
>
> Marc Liron

[Harry Ohrn]

I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their e-mail address to
you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document, up it to your site
and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you are not swamped
with email requests and people don't have to give out their address. If you
are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is nothing wrong with that,
then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much spam being sent out.

--

Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
...
> I have written a series of emails detailing some excellent
> Windows XP Tweaks.
>
> They are FREE and available at:
>
> http://www.updatexp.com
>
> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
>
> Regards
>
> Marc Liron

[Marc Liron]

Harry,

Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
as a Spam merchant...

As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
would hardly want to be associated with it...

I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
time the respondent can Opt out.)

I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...

As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
many users of my other websites wanted the information by
email, rather than having to always visit the website for
it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!

If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!

Yours

Marc Liron



>-----Original Message-----
>I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
e-mail address to
>you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
up it to your site
>and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
are not swamped
>with email requests and people don't have to give out
their address. If you
>are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
nothing wrong with that,
>then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
spam being sent out.
>
>--
>
>Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
>www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
>
>
>"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
...
>> I have written a series of emails detailing some
excellent
>> Windows XP Tweaks.
>>
>> They are FREE and available at:
>>
>> http://www.updatexp.com
>>
>> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Marc Liron
>
>
>.
>

[Marc Liron]

Harry,

Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
as a Spam merchant...

As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
would hardly want to be associated with it...

I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
time the respondent can Opt out.)

I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...

As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
many users of my other websites wanted the information by
email, rather than having to always visit the website for
it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!

If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!

Yours

Marc Liron



>-----Original Message-----
>I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
e-mail address to
>you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
up it to your site
>and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
are not swamped
>with email requests and people don't have to give out
their address. If you
>are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
nothing wrong with that,
>then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
spam being sent out.
>
>--
>
>Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
>www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
>
>
>"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
...
>> I have written a series of emails detailing some
excellent
>> Windows XP Tweaks.
>>
>> They are FREE and available at:
>>
>> http://www.updatexp.com
>>
>> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Marc Liron
>
>
>.
>

[Harry Ohrn]

You are taken a back because you draw an inference that I consider you to be
a spammer. After reading your reply to my post I thought well maybe I did
judge the guy harshly so I took the plunge and signed up with a name and
account I use for such purposes. What I received back is thinly veiled spam.
Yes I received a tip however you state in the e-mail that you will only send
me tip a day for the next 29 days because I likely can't handle receiving
all 30 tips at once. So you are setting me up to receive an additional
e-mail daily from you for a month. The website makes no mention of this.
That is spamming. But even more so before I get to read the tip I see that
you place a url link to an advertisement for a Tweaking program you sell.

Excuse me but the way I see it is like this spam by any other name would
smell so ........

--

Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
...
>
> Harry,
>
> Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
> as a Spam merchant...
>
> As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
> Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
> enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
> would hardly want to be associated with it...
>
> I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
> Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
> time the respondent can Opt out.)
>
> I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
> simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...
>
> As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
> many users of my other websites wanted the information by
> email, rather than having to always visit the website for
> it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!
>
> If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!
>
> Yours
>
> Marc Liron
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
> e-mail address to
> >you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
> up it to your site
> >and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
> are not swamped
> >with email requests and people don't have to give out
> their address. If you
> >are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
> nothing wrong with that,
> >then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
> spam being sent out.
> >
> >--
> >
> >Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> >www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> >
> >
> >"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> I have written a series of emails detailing some
> excellent
> >> Windows XP Tweaks.
> >>
> >> They are FREE and available at:
> >>
> >> http://www.updatexp.com
> >>
> >> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Marc Liron
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Harry Ohrn]

You are taken a back because you draw an inference that I consider you to be
a spammer. After reading your reply to my post I thought well maybe I did
judge the guy harshly so I took the plunge and signed up with a name and
account I use for such purposes. What I received back is thinly veiled spam.
Yes I received a tip however you state in the e-mail that you will only send
me tip a day for the next 29 days because I likely can't handle receiving
all 30 tips at once. So you are setting me up to receive an additional
e-mail daily from you for a month. The website makes no mention of this.
That is spamming. But even more so before I get to read the tip I see that
you place a url link to an advertisement for a Tweaking program you sell.

Excuse me but the way I see it is like this spam by any other name would
smell so ........

--

Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
...
>
> Harry,
>
> Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
> as a Spam merchant...
>
> As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
> Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
> enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
> would hardly want to be associated with it...
>
> I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
> Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
> time the respondent can Opt out.)
>
> I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
> simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...
>
> As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
> many users of my other websites wanted the information by
> email, rather than having to always visit the website for
> it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!
>
> If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!
>
> Yours
>
> Marc Liron
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
> e-mail address to
> >you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
> up it to your site
> >and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
> are not swamped
> >with email requests and people don't have to give out
> their address. If you
> >are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
> nothing wrong with that,
> >then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
> spam being sent out.
> >
> >--
> >
> >Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> >www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> >
> >
> >"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> I have written a series of emails detailing some
> excellent
> >> Windows XP Tweaks.
> >>
> >> They are FREE and available at:
> >>
> >> http://www.updatexp.com
> >>
> >> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Marc Liron
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[goldy]

sorry for butting in, just a weird question,
was the tip worth it?

"Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
...
> You are taken a back because you draw an inference that I consider you to
be
> a spammer. After reading your reply to my post I thought well maybe I did
> judge the guy harshly so I took the plunge and signed up with a name and
> account I use for such purposes. What I received back is thinly veiled
spam.
> Yes I received a tip however you state in the e-mail that you will only
send
> me tip a day for the next 29 days because I likely can't handle receiving
> all 30 tips at once. So you are setting me up to receive an additional
> e-mail daily from you for a month. The website makes no mention of this.
> That is spamming. But even more so before I get to read the tip I see that
> you place a url link to an advertisement for a Tweaking program you sell.
>
> Excuse me but the way I see it is like this spam by any other name would
> smell so ........
>
> --
>
> Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
>
>
> "Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Harry,
> >
> > Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
> > as a Spam merchant...
> >
> > As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
> > Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
> > enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
> > would hardly want to be associated with it...
> >
> > I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
> > Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
> > time the respondent can Opt out.)
> >
> > I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
> > simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...
> >
> > As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
> > many users of my other websites wanted the information by
> > email, rather than having to always visit the website for
> > it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!
> >
> > If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!
> >
> > Yours
> >
> > Marc Liron
> >
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
> > e-mail address to
> > >you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
> > up it to your site
> > >and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
> > are not swamped
> > >with email requests and people don't have to give out
> > their address. If you
> > >are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
> > nothing wrong with that,
> > >then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
> > spam being sent out.
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > >www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > >
> > >
> > >"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> I have written a series of emails detailing some
> > excellent
> > >> Windows XP Tweaks.
> > >>
> > >> They are FREE and available at:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.updatexp.com
> > >>
> > >> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Marc Liron
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>

[goldy]

sorry for butting in, just a weird question,
was the tip worth it?

"Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
...
> You are taken a back because you draw an inference that I consider you to
be
> a spammer. After reading your reply to my post I thought well maybe I did
> judge the guy harshly so I took the plunge and signed up with a name and
> account I use for such purposes. What I received back is thinly veiled
spam.
> Yes I received a tip however you state in the e-mail that you will only
send
> me tip a day for the next 29 days because I likely can't handle receiving
> all 30 tips at once. So you are setting me up to receive an additional
> e-mail daily from you for a month. The website makes no mention of this.
> That is spamming. But even more so before I get to read the tip I see that
> you place a url link to an advertisement for a Tweaking program you sell.
>
> Excuse me but the way I see it is like this spam by any other name would
> smell so ........
>
> --
>
> Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
>
>
> "Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Harry,
> >
> > Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
> > as a Spam merchant...
> >
> > As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
> > Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
> > enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
> > would hardly want to be associated with it...
> >
> > I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
> > Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
> > time the respondent can Opt out.)
> >
> > I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
> > simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...
> >
> > As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
> > many users of my other websites wanted the information by
> > email, rather than having to always visit the website for
> > it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!
> >
> > If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!
> >
> > Yours
> >
> > Marc Liron
> >
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
> > e-mail address to
> > >you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
> > up it to your site
> > >and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
> > are not swamped
> > >with email requests and people don't have to give out
> > their address. If you
> > >are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
> > nothing wrong with that,
> > >then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
> > spam being sent out.
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > >www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > >
> > >
> > >"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> I have written a series of emails detailing some
> > excellent
> > >> Windows XP Tweaks.
> > >>
> > >> They are FREE and available at:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.updatexp.com
> > >>
> > >> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Marc Liron
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>

[Doug Knox MS-MVP]

Actually, he does mention the 30 day span, Harry:

I have collected 30 excellent Windows XP Tweaks and put them in a series of
emails delivered over 30 days... Try them out now!
At least the references to the other "software" isn't that bad, just two
links. Will have to see the tips that he's providing..........

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.


"Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
...
> You are taken a back because you draw an inference that I consider you to
> be
> a spammer. After reading your reply to my post I thought well maybe I did
> judge the guy harshly so I took the plunge and signed up with a name and
> account I use for such purposes. What I received back is thinly veiled
> spam.
> Yes I received a tip however you state in the e-mail that you will only
> send
> me tip a day for the next 29 days because I likely can't handle receiving
> all 30 tips at once. So you are setting me up to receive an additional
> e-mail daily from you for a month. The website makes no mention of this.
> That is spamming. But even more so before I get to read the tip I see that
> you place a url link to an advertisement for a Tweaking program you sell.
>
> Excuse me but the way I see it is like this spam by any other name would
> smell so ........
>
> --
>
> Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
>
>
> "Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Harry,
> >
> > Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
> > as a Spam merchant...
> >
> > As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
> > Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
> > enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
> > would hardly want to be associated with it...
> >
> > I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
> > Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
> > time the respondent can Opt out.)
> >
> > I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
> > simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...
> >
> > As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
> > many users of my other websites wanted the information by
> > email, rather than having to always visit the website for
> > it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!
> >
> > If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!
> >
> > Yours
> >
> > Marc Liron
> >
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
> > e-mail address to
> > >you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
> > up it to your site
> > >and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
> > are not swamped
> > >with email requests and people don't have to give out
> > their address. If you
> > >are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
> > nothing wrong with that,
> > >then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
> > spam being sent out.
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > >www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > >
> > >
> > >"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> I have written a series of emails detailing some
> > excellent
> > >> Windows XP Tweaks.
> > >>
> > >> They are FREE and available at:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.updatexp.com
> > >>
> > >> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Marc Liron
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>

[Doug Knox MS-MVP]

Actually, he does mention the 30 day span, Harry:

I have collected 30 excellent Windows XP Tweaks and put them in a series of
emails delivered over 30 days... Try them out now!
At least the references to the other "software" isn't that bad, just two
links. Will have to see the tips that he's providing..........

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.


"Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
...
> You are taken a back because you draw an inference that I consider you to
> be
> a spammer. After reading your reply to my post I thought well maybe I did
> judge the guy harshly so I took the plunge and signed up with a name and
> account I use for such purposes. What I received back is thinly veiled
> spam.
> Yes I received a tip however you state in the e-mail that you will only
> send
> me tip a day for the next 29 days because I likely can't handle receiving
> all 30 tips at once. So you are setting me up to receive an additional
> e-mail daily from you for a month. The website makes no mention of this.
> That is spamming. But even more so before I get to read the tip I see that
> you place a url link to an advertisement for a Tweaking program you sell.
>
> Excuse me but the way I see it is like this spam by any other name would
> smell so ........
>
> --
>
> Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
>
>
> "Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Harry,
> >
> > Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
> > as a Spam merchant...
> >
> > As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
> > Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
> > enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
> > would hardly want to be associated with it...
> >
> > I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
> > Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
> > time the respondent can Opt out.)
> >
> > I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
> > simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...
> >
> > As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
> > many users of my other websites wanted the information by
> > email, rather than having to always visit the website for
> > it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!
> >
> > If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!
> >
> > Yours
> >
> > Marc Liron
> >
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
> > e-mail address to
> > >you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
> > up it to your site
> > >and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
> > are not swamped
> > >with email requests and people don't have to give out
> > their address. If you
> > >are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
> > nothing wrong with that,
> > >then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
> > spam being sent out.
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > >www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > >
> > >
> > >"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> I have written a series of emails detailing some
> > excellent
> > >> Windows XP Tweaks.
> > >>
> > >> They are FREE and available at:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.updatexp.com
> > >>
> > >> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Marc Liron
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>

[Harry Ohrn]

Doug I can't see where he mentions the "30 day span" on his website
http://www.updatexp.com/ First you have to supply your name and e-mail addy.
This info is harvested by a third party which then gives you a thank you.
See this page http://www.mr-pdf.com/thanks.htm ) There is never any
reference about 30 tips over 30 days in 30 separate e-mails until you
receive the first e-mail. Then you learn that you will receive one tip per
day for the next 30 days. Whether or not the tips are good is not the point.
While the product might be excellent and the tips good it is still spam. He
protests and says it is not but it is. And trying to get off some of these
mailing lists can be a royal PITA. While he says that the info is not shared
with anyone else I am sceptical given that the info is collected through a
third party.

--

Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
www.webtree.ca/newlife/


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
...
> Actually, he does mention the 30 day span, Harry:
>
> I have collected 30 excellent Windows XP Tweaks and put them in a series
of
> emails delivered over 30 days... Try them out now!
> At least the references to the other "software" isn't that bad, just two
> links. Will have to see the tips that he's providing..........
>
> --
> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> http://www.dougknox.com
> --------------------------------
> Associate Expert
> ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> --------------------------------
> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>
>
> "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> ...
> > You are taken a back because you draw an inference that I consider you
to
> > be
> > a spammer. After reading your reply to my post I thought well maybe I
did
> > judge the guy harshly so I took the plunge and signed up with a name and
> > account I use for such purposes. What I received back is thinly veiled
> > spam.
> > Yes I received a tip however you state in the e-mail that you will only
> > send
> > me tip a day for the next 29 days because I likely can't handle
receiving
> > all 30 tips at once. So you are setting me up to receive an additional
> > e-mail daily from you for a month. The website makes no mention of this.
> > That is spamming. But even more so before I get to read the tip I see
that
> > you place a url link to an advertisement for a Tweaking program you
sell.
> >
> > Excuse me but the way I see it is like this spam by any other name would
> > smell so ........
> >
> > --
> >
> > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> >
> >
> > "Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > Harry,
> > >
> > > Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
> > > as a Spam merchant...
> > >
> > > As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
> > > Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
> > > enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
> > > would hardly want to be associated with it...
> > >
> > > I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
> > > Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
> > > time the respondent can Opt out.)
> > >
> > > I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
> > > simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...
> > >
> > > As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
> > > many users of my other websites wanted the information by
> > > email, rather than having to always visit the website for
> > > it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!
> > >
> > > If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!
> > >
> > > Yours
> > >
> > > Marc Liron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
> > > e-mail address to
> > > >you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
> > > up it to your site
> > > >and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
> > > are not swamped
> > > >with email requests and people don't have to give out
> > > their address. If you
> > > >are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
> > > nothing wrong with that,
> > > >then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
> > > spam being sent out.
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >
> > > >Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > >www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >> I have written a series of emails detailing some
> > > excellent
> > > >> Windows XP Tweaks.
> > > >>
> > > >> They are FREE and available at:
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.updatexp.com
> > > >>
> > > >> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >>
> > > >> Marc Liron
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >.
> > > >
> >
> >
>

[Harry Ohrn]

Doug I can't see where he mentions the "30 day span" on his website
http://www.updatexp.com/ First you have to supply your name and e-mail addy.
This info is harvested by a third party which then gives you a thank you.
See this page http://www.mr-pdf.com/thanks.htm ) There is never any
reference about 30 tips over 30 days in 30 separate e-mails until you
receive the first e-mail. Then you learn that you will receive one tip per
day for the next 30 days. Whether or not the tips are good is not the point.
While the product might be excellent and the tips good it is still spam. He
protests and says it is not but it is. And trying to get off some of these
mailing lists can be a royal PITA. While he says that the info is not shared
with anyone else I am sceptical given that the info is collected through a
third party.

--

Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
www.webtree.ca/newlife/


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
...
> Actually, he does mention the 30 day span, Harry:
>
> I have collected 30 excellent Windows XP Tweaks and put them in a series
of
> emails delivered over 30 days... Try them out now!
> At least the references to the other "software" isn't that bad, just two
> links. Will have to see the tips that he's providing..........
>
> --
> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> http://www.dougknox.com
> --------------------------------
> Associate Expert
> ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> --------------------------------
> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>
>
> "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> ...
> > You are taken a back because you draw an inference that I consider you
to
> > be
> > a spammer. After reading your reply to my post I thought well maybe I
did
> > judge the guy harshly so I took the plunge and signed up with a name and
> > account I use for such purposes. What I received back is thinly veiled
> > spam.
> > Yes I received a tip however you state in the e-mail that you will only
> > send
> > me tip a day for the next 29 days because I likely can't handle
receiving
> > all 30 tips at once. So you are setting me up to receive an additional
> > e-mail daily from you for a month. The website makes no mention of this.
> > That is spamming. But even more so before I get to read the tip I see
that
> > you place a url link to an advertisement for a Tweaking program you
sell.
> >
> > Excuse me but the way I see it is like this spam by any other name would
> > smell so ........
> >
> > --
> >
> > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> >
> >
> > "Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > Harry,
> > >
> > > Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
> > > as a Spam merchant...
> > >
> > > As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
> > > Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
> > > enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
> > > would hardly want to be associated with it...
> > >
> > > I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
> > > Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
> > > time the respondent can Opt out.)
> > >
> > > I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
> > > simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...
> > >
> > > As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
> > > many users of my other websites wanted the information by
> > > email, rather than having to always visit the website for
> > > it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!
> > >
> > > If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!
> > >
> > > Yours
> > >
> > > Marc Liron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
> > > e-mail address to
> > > >you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
> > > up it to your site
> > > >and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
> > > are not swamped
> > > >with email requests and people don't have to give out
> > > their address. If you
> > > >are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
> > > nothing wrong with that,
> > > >then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
> > > spam being sent out.
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >
> > > >Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > >www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >> I have written a series of emails detailing some
> > > excellent
> > > >> Windows XP Tweaks.
> > > >>
> > > >> They are FREE and available at:
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.updatexp.com
> > > >>
> > > >> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >>
> > > >> Marc Liron
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >.
> > > >
> >
> >
>

[Doug Knox MS-MVP]

Its not mentioned on the main page, but it is mentioned on the XP Tweaks
page

http://www.updatexp.com/windowsxptweaks.html

in the Conclusion section. And I agree with you about the difficulty
getting off of mailing lists, and what others you'll wind up on. I used an
address that I don't use for much else, so if I start getting spam from
other sources, I'll know.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
...
> Doug I can't see where he mentions the "30 day span" on his website
> http://www.updatexp.com/ First you have to supply your name and e-mail
> addy.
> This info is harvested by a third party which then gives you a thank you.
> See this page http://www.mr-pdf.com/thanks.htm ) There is never any
> reference about 30 tips over 30 days in 30 separate e-mails until you
> receive the first e-mail. Then you learn that you will receive one tip per
> day for the next 30 days. Whether or not the tips are good is not the
> point.
> While the product might be excellent and the tips good it is still spam.
> He
> protests and says it is not but it is. And trying to get off some of these
> mailing lists can be a royal PITA. While he says that the info is not
> shared
> with anyone else I am sceptical given that the info is collected through a
> third party.
>
> --
>
> Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
> www.webtree.ca/newlife/
>
>
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Actually, he does mention the 30 day span, Harry:
> >
> > I have collected 30 excellent Windows XP Tweaks and put them in a series
> of
> > emails delivered over 30 days... Try them out now!
> > At least the references to the other "software" isn't that bad, just two
> > links. Will have to see the tips that he's providing..........
> >
> > --
> > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> > http://www.dougknox.com
> > --------------------------------
> > Associate Expert
> > ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > --------------------------------
> > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >
> >
> > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > You are taken a back because you draw an inference that I consider you
> to
> > > be
> > > a spammer. After reading your reply to my post I thought well maybe I
> did
> > > judge the guy harshly so I took the plunge and signed up with a name
> > > and
> > > account I use for such purposes. What I received back is thinly veiled
> > > spam.
> > > Yes I received a tip however you state in the e-mail that you will
> > > only
> > > send
> > > me tip a day for the next 29 days because I likely can't handle
> receiving
> > > all 30 tips at once. So you are setting me up to receive an additional
> > > e-mail daily from you for a month. The website makes no mention of
> > > this.
> > > That is spamming. But even more so before I get to read the tip I see
> that
> > > you place a url link to an advertisement for a Tweaking program you
> sell.
> > >
> > > Excuse me but the way I see it is like this spam by any other name
> > > would
> > > smell so ........
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > >
> > >
> > > "Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > Harry,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
> > > > as a Spam merchant...
> > > >
> > > > As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
> > > > Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
> > > > enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
> > > > would hardly want to be associated with it...
> > > >
> > > > I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
> > > > Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
> > > > time the respondent can Opt out.)
> > > >
> > > > I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
> > > > simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...
> > > >
> > > > As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
> > > > many users of my other websites wanted the information by
> > > > email, rather than having to always visit the website for
> > > > it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!
> > > >
> > > > If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!
> > > >
> > > > Yours
> > > >
> > > > Marc Liron
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
> > > > e-mail address to
> > > > >you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
> > > > up it to your site
> > > > >and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
> > > > are not swamped
> > > > >with email requests and people don't have to give out
> > > > their address. If you
> > > > >are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
> > > > nothing wrong with that,
> > > > >then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
> > > > spam being sent out.
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >
> > > > >Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > >www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > >> I have written a series of emails detailing some
> > > > excellent
> > > > >> Windows XP Tweaks.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> They are FREE and available at:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://www.updatexp.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Marc Liron
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >.
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

[Doug Knox MS-MVP]

Its not mentioned on the main page, but it is mentioned on the XP Tweaks
page

http://www.updatexp.com/windowsxptweaks.html

in the Conclusion section. And I agree with you about the difficulty
getting off of mailing lists, and what others you'll wind up on. I used an
address that I don't use for much else, so if I start getting spam from
other sources, I'll know.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
...
> Doug I can't see where he mentions the "30 day span" on his website
> http://www.updatexp.com/ First you have to supply your name and e-mail
> addy.
> This info is harvested by a third party which then gives you a thank you.
> See this page http://www.mr-pdf.com/thanks.htm ) There is never any
> reference about 30 tips over 30 days in 30 separate e-mails until you
> receive the first e-mail. Then you learn that you will receive one tip per
> day for the next 30 days. Whether or not the tips are good is not the
> point.
> While the product might be excellent and the tips good it is still spam.
> He
> protests and says it is not but it is. And trying to get off some of these
> mailing lists can be a royal PITA. While he says that the info is not
> shared
> with anyone else I am sceptical given that the info is collected through a
> third party.
>
> --
>
> Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
> www.webtree.ca/newlife/
>
>
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Actually, he does mention the 30 day span, Harry:
> >
> > I have collected 30 excellent Windows XP Tweaks and put them in a series
> of
> > emails delivered over 30 days... Try them out now!
> > At least the references to the other "software" isn't that bad, just two
> > links. Will have to see the tips that he's providing..........
> >
> > --
> > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> > http://www.dougknox.com
> > --------------------------------
> > Associate Expert
> > ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > --------------------------------
> > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >
> >
> > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > You are taken a back because you draw an inference that I consider you
> to
> > > be
> > > a spammer. After reading your reply to my post I thought well maybe I
> did
> > > judge the guy harshly so I took the plunge and signed up with a name
> > > and
> > > account I use for such purposes. What I received back is thinly veiled
> > > spam.
> > > Yes I received a tip however you state in the e-mail that you will
> > > only
> > > send
> > > me tip a day for the next 29 days because I likely can't handle
> receiving
> > > all 30 tips at once. So you are setting me up to receive an additional
> > > e-mail daily from you for a month. The website makes no mention of
> > > this.
> > > That is spamming. But even more so before I get to read the tip I see
> that
> > > you place a url link to an advertisement for a Tweaking program you
> sell.
> > >
> > > Excuse me but the way I see it is like this spam by any other name
> > > would
> > > smell so ........
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > >
> > >
> > > "Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > Harry,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
> > > > as a Spam merchant...
> > > >
> > > > As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
> > > > Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
> > > > enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
> > > > would hardly want to be associated with it...
> > > >
> > > > I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
> > > > Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
> > > > time the respondent can Opt out.)
> > > >
> > > > I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
> > > > simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...
> > > >
> > > > As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
> > > > many users of my other websites wanted the information by
> > > > email, rather than having to always visit the website for
> > > > it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!
> > > >
> > > > If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!
> > > >
> > > > Yours
> > > >
> > > > Marc Liron
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
> > > > e-mail address to
> > > > >you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
> > > > up it to your site
> > > > >and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
> > > > are not swamped
> > > > >with email requests and people don't have to give out
> > > > their address. If you
> > > > >are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
> > > > nothing wrong with that,
> > > > >then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
> > > > spam being sent out.
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >
> > > > >Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > >www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > >> I have written a series of emails detailing some
> > > > excellent
> > > > >> Windows XP Tweaks.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> They are FREE and available at:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://www.updatexp.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Marc Liron
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >.
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

[Harry Ohrn]

Thanks Doug. I think he should place the same info on the Home Page. And I
resent his rationale that people can't absorb 30 tips all at once so he
sends one out per day. Give me a break. I also used a new account. I'll see
what happens with it but I won't be surprised to see even more info coming
in from this guy.

--

Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
www.webtree.ca/newlife/


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
...
> Its not mentioned on the main page, but it is mentioned on the XP Tweaks
> page
>
> http://www.updatexp.com/windowsxptweaks.html
>
> in the Conclusion section. And I agree with you about the difficulty
> getting off of mailing lists, and what others you'll wind up on. I used
an
> address that I don't use for much else, so if I start getting spam from
> other sources, I'll know.
>
> --
> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> http://www.dougknox.com
> --------------------------------
> Associate Expert
> ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> --------------------------------
> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>
> "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Doug I can't see where he mentions the "30 day span" on his website
> > http://www.updatexp.com/ First you have to supply your name and e-mail
> > addy.
> > This info is harvested by a third party which then gives you a thank
you.
> > See this page http://www.mr-pdf.com/thanks.htm ) There is never any
> > reference about 30 tips over 30 days in 30 separate e-mails until you
> > receive the first e-mail. Then you learn that you will receive one tip
per
> > day for the next 30 days. Whether or not the tips are good is not the
> > point.
> > While the product might be excellent and the tips good it is still spam.

> > He
> > protests and says it is not but it is. And trying to get off some of
these
> > mailing lists can be a royal PITA. While he says that the info is not
> > shared
> > with anyone else I am sceptical given that the info is collected through
a
> > third party.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
> > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
> > www.webtree.ca/newlife/
> >
> >
> > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Actually, he does mention the 30 day span, Harry:
> > >
> > > I have collected 30 excellent Windows XP Tweaks and put them in a
series
> > of
> > > emails delivered over 30 days... Try them out now!
> > > At least the references to the other "software" isn't that bad, just
two
> > > links. Will have to see the tips that he's providing..........
> > >
> > > --
> > > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> > > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> > > http://www.dougknox.com
> > > --------------------------------
> > > Associate Expert
> > > ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > --------------------------------
> > > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> > > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > You are taken a back because you draw an inference that I consider
you
> > to
> > > > be
> > > > a spammer. After reading your reply to my post I thought well maybe
I
> > did
> > > > judge the guy harshly so I took the plunge and signed up with a name
> > > > and
> > > > account I use for such purposes. What I received back is thinly
veiled
> > > > spam.
> > > > Yes I received a tip however you state in the e-mail that you will
> > > > only
> > > > send
> > > > me tip a day for the next 29 days because I likely can't handle
> > receiving
> > > > all 30 tips at once. So you are setting me up to receive an
additional
> > > > e-mail daily from you for a month. The website makes no mention of
> > > > this.
> > > > That is spamming. But even more so before I get to read the tip I
see
> > that
> > > > you place a url link to an advertisement for a Tweaking program you
> > sell.
> > > >
> > > > Excuse me but the way I see it is like this spam by any other name
> > > > would
> > > > smell so ........
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Harry,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
> > > > > as a Spam merchant...
> > > > >
> > > > > As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
> > > > > Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
> > > > > enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
> > > > > would hardly want to be associated with it...
> > > > >
> > > > > I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
> > > > > Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
> > > > > time the respondent can Opt out.)
> > > > >
> > > > > I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
> > > > > simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...
> > > > >
> > > > > As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
> > > > > many users of my other websites wanted the information by
> > > > > email, rather than having to always visit the website for
> > > > > it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!
> > > > >
> > > > > If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!
> > > > >
> > > > > Yours
> > > > >
> > > > > Marc Liron
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
> > > > > e-mail address to
> > > > > >you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
> > > > > up it to your site
> > > > > >and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
> > > > > are not swamped
> > > > > >with email requests and people don't have to give out
> > > > > their address. If you
> > > > > >are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
> > > > > nothing wrong with that,
> > > > > >then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
> > > > > spam being sent out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > > >www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > >> I have written a series of emails detailing some
> > > > > excellent
> > > > > >> Windows XP Tweaks.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> They are FREE and available at:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> http://www.updatexp.com
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regards
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Marc Liron
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >.
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

[Harry Ohrn]

Thanks Doug. I think he should place the same info on the Home Page. And I
resent his rationale that people can't absorb 30 tips all at once so he
sends one out per day. Give me a break. I also used a new account. I'll see
what happens with it but I won't be surprised to see even more info coming
in from this guy.

--

Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
www.webtree.ca/newlife/


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
...
> Its not mentioned on the main page, but it is mentioned on the XP Tweaks
> page
>
> http://www.updatexp.com/windowsxptweaks.html
>
> in the Conclusion section. And I agree with you about the difficulty
> getting off of mailing lists, and what others you'll wind up on. I used
an
> address that I don't use for much else, so if I start getting spam from
> other sources, I'll know.
>
> --
> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> http://www.dougknox.com
> --------------------------------
> Associate Expert
> ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> --------------------------------
> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>
> "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Doug I can't see where he mentions the "30 day span" on his website
> > http://www.updatexp.com/ First you have to supply your name and e-mail
> > addy.
> > This info is harvested by a third party which then gives you a thank
you.
> > See this page http://www.mr-pdf.com/thanks.htm ) There is never any
> > reference about 30 tips over 30 days in 30 separate e-mails until you
> > receive the first e-mail. Then you learn that you will receive one tip
per
> > day for the next 30 days. Whether or not the tips are good is not the
> > point.
> > While the product might be excellent and the tips good it is still spam.

> > He
> > protests and says it is not but it is. And trying to get off some of
these
> > mailing lists can be a royal PITA. While he says that the info is not
> > shared
> > with anyone else I am sceptical given that the info is collected through
a
> > third party.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
> > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
> > www.webtree.ca/newlife/
> >
> >
> > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Actually, he does mention the 30 day span, Harry:
> > >
> > > I have collected 30 excellent Windows XP Tweaks and put them in a
series
> > of
> > > emails delivered over 30 days... Try them out now!
> > > At least the references to the other "software" isn't that bad, just
two
> > > links. Will have to see the tips that he's providing..........
> > >
> > > --
> > > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> > > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> > > http://www.dougknox.com
> > > --------------------------------
> > > Associate Expert
> > > ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > --------------------------------
> > > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> > > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > You are taken a back because you draw an inference that I consider
you
> > to
> > > > be
> > > > a spammer. After reading your reply to my post I thought well maybe
I
> > did
> > > > judge the guy harshly so I took the plunge and signed up with a name
> > > > and
> > > > account I use for such purposes. What I received back is thinly
veiled
> > > > spam.
> > > > Yes I received a tip however you state in the e-mail that you will
> > > > only
> > > > send
> > > > me tip a day for the next 29 days because I likely can't handle
> > receiving
> > > > all 30 tips at once. So you are setting me up to receive an
additional
> > > > e-mail daily from you for a month. The website makes no mention of
> > > > this.
> > > > That is spamming. But even more so before I get to read the tip I
see
> > that
> > > > you place a url link to an advertisement for a Tweaking program you
> > sell.
> > > >
> > > > Excuse me but the way I see it is like this spam by any other name
> > > > would
> > > > smell so ........
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Harry,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
> > > > > as a Spam merchant...
> > > > >
> > > > > As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
> > > > > Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
> > > > > enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
> > > > > would hardly want to be associated with it...
> > > > >
> > > > > I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
> > > > > Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
> > > > > time the respondent can Opt out.)
> > > > >
> > > > > I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
> > > > > simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...
> > > > >
> > > > > As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
> > > > > many users of my other websites wanted the information by
> > > > > email, rather than having to always visit the website for
> > > > > it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!
> > > > >
> > > > > If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!
> > > > >
> > > > > Yours
> > > > >
> > > > > Marc Liron
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
> > > > > e-mail address to
> > > > > >you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
> > > > > up it to your site
> > > > > >and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
> > > > > are not swamped
> > > > > >with email requests and people don't have to give out
> > > > > their address. If you
> > > > > >are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
> > > > > nothing wrong with that,
> > > > > >then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
> > > > > spam being sent out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > > >www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > >> I have written a series of emails detailing some
> > > > > excellent
> > > > > >> Windows XP Tweaks.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> They are FREE and available at:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> http://www.updatexp.com
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regards
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Marc Liron
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >.
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

[David Candy]

Really think you'll see something new?

--=20
http://www.g2mil.com/Apr2003.htm
http://prorev.com/forbesrussia.htm
---------------------------------------------------------------
David Candy
http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
---------------------------------------------------------------
"Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message =
...
> Thanks Doug. I think he should place the same info on the Home Page. =
And I
> resent his rationale that people can't absorb 30 tips all at once so =
he
> sends one out per day. Give me a break. I also used a new account. =
I'll see
> what happens with it but I won't be surprised to see even more info =
coming
> in from this guy.
>=20
> --
>=20
> Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
> www.webtree.ca/newlife/
>=20
>=20
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Its not mentioned on the main page, but it is mentioned on the XP =
Tweaks
> > page
> >
> > http://www.updatexp.com/windowsxptweaks.html
> >
> > in the Conclusion section. And I agree with you about the =
difficulty
> > getting off of mailing lists, and what others you'll wind up on. I =
used
> an
> > address that I don't use for much else, so if I start getting spam =
from
> > other sources, I'll know.
> >
> > --
> > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> > http://www.dougknox.com
> > --------------------------------
> > Associate Expert
> > ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > --------------------------------
> > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >
> > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Doug I can't see where he mentions the "30 day span" on his =
website
> > > http://www.updatexp.com/ First you have to supply your name and =
e-mail
> > > addy.
> > > This info is harvested by a third party which then gives you a =
thank
> you.
> > > See this page http://www.mr-pdf.com/thanks.htm ) There is never =
any
> > > reference about 30 tips over 30 days in 30 separate e-mails until =
you
> > > receive the first e-mail. Then you learn that you will receive one =
tip
> per
> > > day for the next 30 days. Whether or not the tips are good is not =
the
> > > point.
> > > While the product might be excellent and the tips good it is still =
spam.
>=20
> > > He
> > > protests and says it is not but it is. And trying to get off some =
of
> these
> > > mailing lists can be a royal PITA. While he says that the info is =
not
> > > shared
> > > with anyone else I am sceptical given that the info is collected =
through
> a
> > > third party.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
> > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
> > > www.webtree.ca/newlife/
> > >
> > >
> > > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Actually, he does mention the 30 day span, Harry:
> > > >
> > > > I have collected 30 excellent Windows XP Tweaks and put them in =
a
> series
> > > of
> > > > emails delivered over 30 days... Try them out now!
> > > > At least the references to the other "software" isn't that bad, =
just
> two
> > > > links. Will have to see the tips that he's providing..........
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> > > > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> > > > http://www.dougknox.com
> > > > --------------------------------
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > --------------------------------
> > > > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> > > > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > You are taken a back because you draw an inference that I =
consider
> you
> > > to
> > > > > be
> > > > > a spammer. After reading your reply to my post I thought well =
maybe
> I
> > > did
> > > > > judge the guy harshly so I took the plunge and signed up with =
a name
> > > > > and
> > > > > account I use for such purposes. What I received back is =
thinly
> veiled
> > > > > spam.
> > > > > Yes I received a tip however you state in the e-mail that you =
will
> > > > > only
> > > > > send
> > > > > me tip a day for the next 29 days because I likely can't =
handle
> > > receiving
> > > > > all 30 tips at once. So you are setting me up to receive an
> additional
> > > > > e-mail daily from you for a month. The website makes no =
mention of
> > > > > this.
> > > > > That is spamming. But even more so before I get to read the =
tip I
> see
> > > that
> > > > > you place a url link to an advertisement for a Tweaking =
program you
> > > sell.
> > > > >
> > > > > Excuse me but the way I see it is like this spam by any other =
name
> > > > > would
> > > > > smell so ........
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harry,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
> > > > > > as a Spam merchant...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
> > > > > > Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
> > > > > > enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
> > > > > > would hardly want to be associated with it...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
> > > > > > Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
> > > > > > time the respondent can Opt out.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
> > > > > > simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
> > > > > > many users of my other websites wanted the information by
> > > > > > email, rather than having to always visit the website for
> > > > > > it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yours
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marc Liron
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
> > > > > > e-mail address to
> > > > > > >you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
> > > > > > up it to your site
> > > > > > >and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
> > > > > > are not swamped
> > > > > > >with email requests and people don't have to give out
> > > > > > their address. If you
> > > > > > >are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
> > > > > > nothing wrong with that,
> > > > > > >then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
> > > > > > spam being sent out.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >--
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > > > >www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > >> I have written a series of emails detailing some
> > > > > > excellent
> > > > > > >> Windows XP Tweaks.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> They are FREE and available at:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> http://www.updatexp.com
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Regards
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Marc Liron
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >.
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>=20
>=20

[David Candy]

Really think you'll see something new?

--=20
http://www.g2mil.com/Apr2003.htm
http://prorev.com/forbesrussia.htm
---------------------------------------------------------------
David Candy
http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
---------------------------------------------------------------
"Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message =
...
> Thanks Doug. I think he should place the same info on the Home Page. =
And I
> resent his rationale that people can't absorb 30 tips all at once so =
he
> sends one out per day. Give me a break. I also used a new account. =
I'll see
> what happens with it but I won't be surprised to see even more info =
coming
> in from this guy.
>=20
> --
>=20
> Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
> www.webtree.ca/newlife/
>=20
>=20
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Its not mentioned on the main page, but it is mentioned on the XP =
Tweaks
> > page
> >
> > http://www.updatexp.com/windowsxptweaks.html
> >
> > in the Conclusion section. And I agree with you about the =
difficulty
> > getting off of mailing lists, and what others you'll wind up on. I =
used
> an
> > address that I don't use for much else, so if I start getting spam =
from
> > other sources, I'll know.
> >
> > --
> > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> > http://www.dougknox.com
> > --------------------------------
> > Associate Expert
> > ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > --------------------------------
> > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >
> > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Doug I can't see where he mentions the "30 day span" on his =
website
> > > http://www.updatexp.com/ First you have to supply your name and =
e-mail
> > > addy.
> > > This info is harvested by a third party which then gives you a =
thank
> you.
> > > See this page http://www.mr-pdf.com/thanks.htm ) There is never =
any
> > > reference about 30 tips over 30 days in 30 separate e-mails until =
you
> > > receive the first e-mail. Then you learn that you will receive one =
tip
> per
> > > day for the next 30 days. Whether or not the tips are good is not =
the
> > > point.
> > > While the product might be excellent and the tips good it is still =
spam.
>=20
> > > He
> > > protests and says it is not but it is. And trying to get off some =
of
> these
> > > mailing lists can be a royal PITA. While he says that the info is =
not
> > > shared
> > > with anyone else I am sceptical given that the info is collected =
through
> a
> > > third party.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
> > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
> > > www.webtree.ca/newlife/
> > >
> > >
> > > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Actually, he does mention the 30 day span, Harry:
> > > >
> > > > I have collected 30 excellent Windows XP Tweaks and put them in =
a
> series
> > > of
> > > > emails delivered over 30 days... Try them out now!
> > > > At least the references to the other "software" isn't that bad, =
just
> two
> > > > links. Will have to see the tips that he's providing..........
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> > > > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> > > > http://www.dougknox.com
> > > > --------------------------------
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > --------------------------------
> > > > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> > > > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > You are taken a back because you draw an inference that I =
consider
> you
> > > to
> > > > > be
> > > > > a spammer. After reading your reply to my post I thought well =
maybe
> I
> > > did
> > > > > judge the guy harshly so I took the plunge and signed up with =
a name
> > > > > and
> > > > > account I use for such purposes. What I received back is =
thinly
> veiled
> > > > > spam.
> > > > > Yes I received a tip however you state in the e-mail that you =
will
> > > > > only
> > > > > send
> > > > > me tip a day for the next 29 days because I likely can't =
handle
> > > receiving
> > > > > all 30 tips at once. So you are setting me up to receive an
> additional
> > > > > e-mail daily from you for a month. The website makes no =
mention of
> > > > > this.
> > > > > That is spamming. But even more so before I get to read the =
tip I
> see
> > > that
> > > > > you place a url link to an advertisement for a Tweaking =
program you
> > > sell.
> > > > >
> > > > > Excuse me but the way I see it is like this spam by any other =
name
> > > > > would
> > > > > smell so ........
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harry,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
> > > > > > as a Spam merchant...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
> > > > > > Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
> > > > > > enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
> > > > > > would hardly want to be associated with it...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
> > > > > > Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
> > > > > > time the respondent can Opt out.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
> > > > > > simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
> > > > > > many users of my other websites wanted the information by
> > > > > > email, rather than having to always visit the website for
> > > > > > it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yours
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marc Liron
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
> > > > > > e-mail address to
> > > > > > >you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
> > > > > > up it to your site
> > > > > > >and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
> > > > > > are not swamped
> > > > > > >with email requests and people don't have to give out
> > > > > > their address. If you
> > > > > > >are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
> > > > > > nothing wrong with that,
> > > > > > >then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
> > > > > > spam being sent out.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >--
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > > > >www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > >> I have written a series of emails detailing some
> > > > > > excellent
> > > > > > >> Windows XP Tweaks.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> They are FREE and available at:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> http://www.updatexp.com
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Regards
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Marc Liron
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >.
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>=20
>=20

[Harry Ohrn]

LOL. Not likely David.

--

Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
www.webtree.ca/newlife/


"David Candy" > wrote in message
...
Really think you'll see something new?

--
http://www.g2mil.com/Apr2003.htm
http://prorev.com/forbesrussia.htm
---------------------------------------------------------------
David Candy
http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
---------------------------------------------------------------
"Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Doug. I think he should place the same info on the Home Page. And I
> resent his rationale that people can't absorb 30 tips all at once so he
> sends one out per day. Give me a break. I also used a new account. I'll
see
> what happens with it but I won't be surprised to see even more info coming
> in from this guy.
>
> --
>
> Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
> www.webtree.ca/newlife/
>
>
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Its not mentioned on the main page, but it is mentioned on the XP Tweaks
> > page
> >
> > http://www.updatexp.com/windowsxptweaks.html
> >
> > in the Conclusion section. And I agree with you about the difficulty
> > getting off of mailing lists, and what others you'll wind up on. I used
> an
> > address that I don't use for much else, so if I start getting spam from
> > other sources, I'll know.
> >
> > --
> > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> > http://www.dougknox.com
> > --------------------------------
> > Associate Expert
> > ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > --------------------------------
> > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >
> > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Doug I can't see where he mentions the "30 day span" on his website
> > > http://www.updatexp.com/ First you have to supply your name and e-mail
> > > addy.
> > > This info is harvested by a third party which then gives you a thank
> you.
> > > See this page http://www.mr-pdf.com/thanks.htm ) There is never any
> > > reference about 30 tips over 30 days in 30 separate e-mails until you
> > > receive the first e-mail. Then you learn that you will receive one tip
> per
> > > day for the next 30 days. Whether or not the tips are good is not the
> > > point.
> > > While the product might be excellent and the tips good it is still
spam.
>
> > > He
> > > protests and says it is not but it is. And trying to get off some of
> these
> > > mailing lists can be a royal PITA. While he says that the info is not
> > > shared
> > > with anyone else I am sceptical given that the info is collected
through
> a
> > > third party.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
> > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
> > > www.webtree.ca/newlife/
> > >
> > >
> > > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Actually, he does mention the 30 day span, Harry:
> > > >
> > > > I have collected 30 excellent Windows XP Tweaks and put them in a
> series
> > > of
> > > > emails delivered over 30 days... Try them out now!
> > > > At least the references to the other "software" isn't that bad, just
> two
> > > > links. Will have to see the tips that he's providing..........
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> > > > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> > > > http://www.dougknox.com
> > > > --------------------------------
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > --------------------------------
> > > > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> > > > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > You are taken a back because you draw an inference that I consider
> you
> > > to
> > > > > be
> > > > > a spammer. After reading your reply to my post I thought well
maybe
> I
> > > did
> > > > > judge the guy harshly so I took the plunge and signed up with a
name
> > > > > and
> > > > > account I use for such purposes. What I received back is thinly
> veiled
> > > > > spam.
> > > > > Yes I received a tip however you state in the e-mail that you will
> > > > > only
> > > > > send
> > > > > me tip a day for the next 29 days because I likely can't handle
> > > receiving
> > > > > all 30 tips at once. So you are setting me up to receive an
> additional
> > > > > e-mail daily from you for a month. The website makes no mention of
> > > > > this.
> > > > > That is spamming. But even more so before I get to read the tip I
> see
> > > that
> > > > > you place a url link to an advertisement for a Tweaking program
you
> > > sell.
> > > > >
> > > > > Excuse me but the way I see it is like this spam by any other name
> > > > > would
> > > > > smell so ........
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harry,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
> > > > > > as a Spam merchant...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
> > > > > > Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
> > > > > > enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
> > > > > > would hardly want to be associated with it...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
> > > > > > Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
> > > > > > time the respondent can Opt out.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
> > > > > > simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
> > > > > > many users of my other websites wanted the information by
> > > > > > email, rather than having to always visit the website for
> > > > > > it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yours
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marc Liron
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
> > > > > > e-mail address to
> > > > > > >you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
> > > > > > up it to your site
> > > > > > >and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
> > > > > > are not swamped
> > > > > > >with email requests and people don't have to give out
> > > > > > their address. If you
> > > > > > >are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
> > > > > > nothing wrong with that,
> > > > > > >then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
> > > > > > spam being sent out.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >--
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > > > >www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > >> I have written a series of emails detailing some
> > > > > > excellent
> > > > > > >> Windows XP Tweaks.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> They are FREE and available at:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> http://www.updatexp.com
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Regards
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Marc Liron
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >.
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

[Harry Ohrn]

LOL. Not likely David.

--

Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
www.webtree.ca/newlife/


"David Candy" > wrote in message
...
Really think you'll see something new?

--
http://www.g2mil.com/Apr2003.htm
http://prorev.com/forbesrussia.htm
---------------------------------------------------------------
David Candy
http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
---------------------------------------------------------------
"Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Doug. I think he should place the same info on the Home Page. And I
> resent his rationale that people can't absorb 30 tips all at once so he
> sends one out per day. Give me a break. I also used a new account. I'll
see
> what happens with it but I won't be surprised to see even more info coming
> in from this guy.
>
> --
>
> Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
> www.webtree.ca/newlife/
>
>
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Its not mentioned on the main page, but it is mentioned on the XP Tweaks
> > page
> >
> > http://www.updatexp.com/windowsxptweaks.html
> >
> > in the Conclusion section. And I agree with you about the difficulty
> > getting off of mailing lists, and what others you'll wind up on. I used
> an
> > address that I don't use for much else, so if I start getting spam from
> > other sources, I'll know.
> >
> > --
> > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> > http://www.dougknox.com
> > --------------------------------
> > Associate Expert
> > ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > --------------------------------
> > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >
> > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Doug I can't see where he mentions the "30 day span" on his website
> > > http://www.updatexp.com/ First you have to supply your name and e-mail
> > > addy.
> > > This info is harvested by a third party which then gives you a thank
> you.
> > > See this page http://www.mr-pdf.com/thanks.htm ) There is never any
> > > reference about 30 tips over 30 days in 30 separate e-mails until you
> > > receive the first e-mail. Then you learn that you will receive one tip
> per
> > > day for the next 30 days. Whether or not the tips are good is not the
> > > point.
> > > While the product might be excellent and the tips good it is still
spam.
>
> > > He
> > > protests and says it is not but it is. And trying to get off some of
> these
> > > mailing lists can be a royal PITA. While he says that the info is not
> > > shared
> > > with anyone else I am sceptical given that the info is collected
through
> a
> > > third party.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
> > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
> > > www.webtree.ca/newlife/
> > >
> > >
> > > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Actually, he does mention the 30 day span, Harry:
> > > >
> > > > I have collected 30 excellent Windows XP Tweaks and put them in a
> series
> > > of
> > > > emails delivered over 30 days... Try them out now!
> > > > At least the references to the other "software" isn't that bad, just
> two
> > > > links. Will have to see the tips that he's providing..........
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> > > > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> > > > http://www.dougknox.com
> > > > --------------------------------
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > --------------------------------
> > > > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> > > > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > You are taken a back because you draw an inference that I consider
> you
> > > to
> > > > > be
> > > > > a spammer. After reading your reply to my post I thought well
maybe
> I
> > > did
> > > > > judge the guy harshly so I took the plunge and signed up with a
name
> > > > > and
> > > > > account I use for such purposes. What I received back is thinly
> veiled
> > > > > spam.
> > > > > Yes I received a tip however you state in the e-mail that you will
> > > > > only
> > > > > send
> > > > > me tip a day for the next 29 days because I likely can't handle
> > > receiving
> > > > > all 30 tips at once. So you are setting me up to receive an
> additional
> > > > > e-mail daily from you for a month. The website makes no mention of
> > > > > this.
> > > > > That is spamming. But even more so before I get to read the tip I
> see
> > > that
> > > > > you place a url link to an advertisement for a Tweaking program
you
> > > sell.
> > > > >
> > > > > Excuse me but the way I see it is like this spam by any other name
> > > > > would
> > > > > smell so ........
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harry,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks you for you post. However I do object to being cast
> > > > > > as a Spam merchant...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As an IT Manager I have gained much experience with
> > > > > > Microsoft XP, in both enterprise and small business
> > > > > > enviroments. One of the "Pains" of my life is Spam - so I
> > > > > > would hardly want to be associated with it...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have several servers, one of which uses commercial
> > > > > > Autoresponder software that is Fully Opt-In (and at any
> > > > > > time the respondent can Opt out.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I use this method, as opposed to PDF downloads as it
> > > > > > simply uses less bandwidth and server processes...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for loading as HTML I used to do this, but found that
> > > > > > many users of my other websites wanted the information by
> > > > > > email, rather than having to always visit the website for
> > > > > > it. I know therfore offer a mix of both!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I have upset you guys it was certainly NOT intended!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yours
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marc Liron
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >I agree with Mike. Why do you want people to supply their
> > > > > > e-mail address to
> > > > > > >you? You can simply create a TXT, HTML, or PDF document,
> > > > > > up it to your site
> > > > > > >and place a link to make it downloadable. In this way you
> > > > > > are not swamped
> > > > > > >with email requests and people don't have to give out
> > > > > > their address. If you
> > > > > > >are wanting to be paid for your work, and there is
> > > > > > nothing wrong with that,
> > > > > > >then setup a PayPal account. There is already too much
> > > > > > spam being sent out.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >--
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > > > >www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >"Marc Liron" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > >> I have written a series of emails detailing some
> > > > > > excellent
> > > > > > >> Windows XP Tweaks.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> They are FREE and available at:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> http://www.updatexp.com
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Look for the section: "Windows XP 30 Tips"
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Regards
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Marc Liron
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >.
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>