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Tom
December 14th 03, 02:42 AM
I got directories someone created after someone gave R/W
to anonymous FTP, doh. Fixed that issue but i have
directories I can't delete and give me permission denied
or an error if I try and access them. I've read KB article
on MS about Posix commands. They don't work. Can't find
process or returns a 'failed' message. I'm doing this all
via Remote Desktop as server is over 1 hour away. Someone
else said environment variables have to be set.. Hmm, gee
where is that documented as I looked in the Posix
manual... I'd really appreciate it if someone can tell me
how to get rid of these directories. We closed our FTP and
I have checked user rights/groups and stuff, nothing out
of the ordinary. But as Administrator you think I'd just
click on em and delete em...but no.

We are pursuing the hacker in GERMANY. Whoever it is,
trust me, you hacked the wrong site. You're good, but I
have 3 layers of logging on.. I got you tracked biatch!

I'm looking for a utility that can go and delete these
directories or someone who really actually knows how to
use the posix commands to remove the directories.

Mike Brannigan [MSFT]
December 14th 03, 02:42 AM
Tom,

This has nothing to do with POSIX commands.

All you need do is take ownership of the folders/files and then reset the
permissions on them (which you can now do as you re the owner even though
you may not have permissions to begin with).
Give your self Full Control and ensure that they are propagated to all child
files and folders (you will be asked if this is what you want to do).
Then just delete them.

You can do this by mapping a drive to the root of the disk volume which by
default exists as the admin share <drive letter>$ e.g. F$

You should do all of the is under an administrative account.

Taking ownership and resetting file permissions are covered in the online
help for your OS.

--
Regards,

Mike
--
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rights

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Please use these newsgroups

"Tom" > wrote in message
...
> I got directories someone created after someone gave R/W
> to anonymous FTP, doh. Fixed that issue but i have
> directories I can't delete and give me permission denied
> or an error if I try and access them. I've read KB article
> on MS about Posix commands. They don't work. Can't find
> process or returns a 'failed' message. I'm doing this all
> via Remote Desktop as server is over 1 hour away. Someone
> else said environment variables have to be set.. Hmm, gee
> where is that documented as I looked in the Posix
> manual... I'd really appreciate it if someone can tell me
> how to get rid of these directories. We closed our FTP and
> I have checked user rights/groups and stuff, nothing out
> of the ordinary. But as Administrator you think I'd just
> click on em and delete em...but no.
>
> We are pursuing the hacker in GERMANY. Whoever it is,
> trust me, you hacked the wrong site. You're good, but I
> have 3 layers of logging on.. I got you tracked biatch!
>
> I'm looking for a utility that can go and delete these
> directories or someone who really actually knows how to
> use the posix commands to remove the directories.

Tom Valenzuela
December 14th 03, 02:42 AM
ok, questions. Map a drive to root of what? the homepage?
or to the c:\. i have accessed the folder and changed
permission and stuff on it all way down the tree using the
bullets and stuff but still says permission denied, is
this because i didn't map a drive? I assume you meant to
c:\

The directory i am trying to delete in the root of our
homepage is \ \, like that... and in the logs for it this
directory is seen created as \++\.. Even after changing
owner and stuff says permission denied or it craps out
while trying to change the permission somewhere down the
hierarchy of this folder.

I am doing this via remote desktop...

Thanks for your fast response.
Tom

>-----Original Message-----
>Tom,
>
>This has nothing to do with POSIX commands.
>
>All you need do is take ownership of the folders/files
and then reset the
>permissions on them (which you can now do as you re the
owner even though
>you may not have permissions to begin with).
>Give your self Full Control and ensure that they are
propagated to all child
>files and folders (you will be asked if this is what you
want to do).
>Then just delete them.
>
>You can do this by mapping a drive to the root of the
disk volume which by
>default exists as the admin share <drive letter>$ e.g. F$
>
>You should do all of the is under an administrative
account.
>
>Taking ownership and resetting file permissions are
covered in the online
>help for your OS.
>
>--
>Regards,
>
>Mike
>--
>Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no
>rights
>
>Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
>Please use these newsgroups
>
>"Tom" > wrote in message
...
>> I got directories someone created after someone gave R/W
>> to anonymous FTP, doh. Fixed that issue but i have
>> directories I can't delete and give me permission denied
>> or an error if I try and access them. I've read KB
article
>> on MS about Posix commands. They don't work. Can't find
>> process or returns a 'failed' message. I'm doing this
all
>> via Remote Desktop as server is over 1 hour away.
Someone
>> else said environment variables have to be set.. Hmm,
gee
>> where is that documented as I looked in the Posix
>> manual... I'd really appreciate it if someone can tell
me
>> how to get rid of these directories. We closed our FTP
and
>> I have checked user rights/groups and stuff, nothing out
>> of the ordinary. But as Administrator you think I'd just
>> click on em and delete em...but no.
>>
>> We are pursuing the hacker in GERMANY. Whoever it is,
>> trust me, you hacked the wrong site. You're good, but I
>> have 3 layers of logging on.. I got you tracked biatch!
>>
>> I'm looking for a utility that can go and delete these
>> directories or someone who really actually knows how to
>> use the posix commands to remove the directories.
>
>
>.
>

Mike Brannigan [MSFT]
December 14th 03, 02:43 AM
"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in message
...
> ok, questions. Map a drive to root of what?

The Physical disk on the remote server that holds the offending folders.

Forget about the homepage, FTP or Web side of things - just deal at the
simplest level of the disk folders themselves.

Ok - so you have a remote desktop session to the server. The you do not need
to do any mapping.
Just logon to the remote desktop as the server Administrator and then take
ownership of the folders and then reset the permissions and delete.

--
Regards,

Mike
--
Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights

Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
Please use these newsgroups

"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in message
...
> ok, questions. Map a drive to root of what? the homepage?
> or to the c:\. i have accessed the folder and changed
> permission and stuff on it all way down the tree using the
> bullets and stuff but still says permission denied, is
> this because i didn't map a drive? I assume you meant to
> c:\
>
> The directory i am trying to delete in the root of our
> homepage is \ \, like that... and in the logs for it this
> directory is seen created as \++\.. Even after changing
> owner and stuff says permission denied or it craps out
> while trying to change the permission somewhere down the
> hierarchy of this folder.
>
> I am doing this via remote desktop...
>
> Thanks for your fast response.
> Tom
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Tom,
> >
> >This has nothing to do with POSIX commands.
> >
> >All you need do is take ownership of the folders/files
> and then reset the
> >permissions on them (which you can now do as you re the
> owner even though
> >you may not have permissions to begin with).
> >Give your self Full Control and ensure that they are
> propagated to all child
> >files and folders (you will be asked if this is what you
> want to do).
> >Then just delete them.
> >
> >You can do this by mapping a drive to the root of the
> disk volume which by
> >default exists as the admin share <drive letter>$ e.g. F$
> >
> >You should do all of the is under an administrative
> account.
> >
> >Taking ownership and resetting file permissions are
> covered in the online
> >help for your OS.
> >
> >--
> >Regards,
> >
> >Mike
> >--
> >Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
> >
> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no
> >rights
> >
> >Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
> >Please use these newsgroups
> >
> >"Tom" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> I got directories someone created after someone gave R/W
> >> to anonymous FTP, doh. Fixed that issue but i have
> >> directories I can't delete and give me permission denied
> >> or an error if I try and access them. I've read KB
> article
> >> on MS about Posix commands. They don't work. Can't find
> >> process or returns a 'failed' message. I'm doing this
> all
> >> via Remote Desktop as server is over 1 hour away.
> Someone
> >> else said environment variables have to be set.. Hmm,
> gee
> >> where is that documented as I looked in the Posix
> >> manual... I'd really appreciate it if someone can tell
> me
> >> how to get rid of these directories. We closed our FTP
> and
> >> I have checked user rights/groups and stuff, nothing out
> >> of the ordinary. But as Administrator you think I'd just
> >> click on em and delete em...but no.
> >>
> >> We are pursuing the hacker in GERMANY. Whoever it is,
> >> trust me, you hacked the wrong site. You're good, but I
> >> have 3 layers of logging on.. I got you tracked biatch!
> >>
> >> I'm looking for a utility that can go and delete these
> >> directories or someone who really actually knows how to
> >> use the posix commands to remove the directories.
> >
> >
> >.
> >

Tom Valenzuela
December 14th 03, 02:43 AM
Ya we did that and 'permission denied' still, somewhere
down the tree of the folder it experiences a permissions
error..Unfortunately we are unable to go down the tree of
the directory but I will look closer at the permissions
and owner. Right now it's all administrator as far as I
can see and I made sure to use the checkbox to ensure it
goes down to the childnodes and sub directories.

I will look at it more and see. I was thinking these
directories might have some kind of root somewhere that we
could delete and get rid of them, but as you said, I will
look at it as simply files and folders.

I wish there was a utility out there that could easily do
this for us and just simply nuke the directory..
unfortunately haven't found any.

thanks for your help! I will post again if I meet any
problems, hope you can check on here once in a while for
next day or so...hehehehehe!

Tom


>-----Original Message-----
>"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in message
...
>> ok, questions. Map a drive to root of what?
>
>The Physical disk on the remote server that holds the
offending folders.
>
>Forget about the homepage, FTP or Web side of things -
just deal at the
>simplest level of the disk folders themselves.
>
>Ok - so you have a remote desktop session to the server.
The you do not need
>to do any mapping.
>Just logon to the remote desktop as the server
Administrator and then take
>ownership of the folders and then reset the permissions
and delete.
>
>--
>Regards,
>
>Mike
>--
>Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no
>rights
>
>Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
>Please use these newsgroups
>
>"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in message
...
>> ok, questions. Map a drive to root of what? the
homepage?
>> or to the c:\. i have accessed the folder and changed
>> permission and stuff on it all way down the tree using
the
>> bullets and stuff but still says permission denied, is
>> this because i didn't map a drive? I assume you meant to
>> c:\
>>
>> The directory i am trying to delete in the root of our
>> homepage is \ \, like that... and in the logs for it
this
>> directory is seen created as \++\.. Even after changing
>> owner and stuff says permission denied or it craps out
>> while trying to change the permission somewhere down the
>> hierarchy of this folder.
>>
>> I am doing this via remote desktop...
>>
>> Thanks for your fast response.
>> Tom
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Tom,
>> >
>> >This has nothing to do with POSIX commands.
>> >
>> >All you need do is take ownership of the folders/files
>> and then reset the
>> >permissions on them (which you can now do as you re the
>> owner even though
>> >you may not have permissions to begin with).
>> >Give your self Full Control and ensure that they are
>> propagated to all child
>> >files and folders (you will be asked if this is what
you
>> want to do).
>> >Then just delete them.
>> >
>> >You can do this by mapping a drive to the root of the
>> disk volume which by
>> >default exists as the admin share <drive letter>$
e.g. F$
>> >
>> >You should do all of the is under an administrative
>> account.
>> >
>> >Taking ownership and resetting file permissions are
>> covered in the online
>> >help for your OS.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >--
>> >Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>> >
>> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
>> confers no
>> >rights
>> >
>> >Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
>> >Please use these newsgroups
>> >
>> >"Tom" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> I got directories someone created after someone gave
R/W
>> >> to anonymous FTP, doh. Fixed that issue but i have
>> >> directories I can't delete and give me permission
denied
>> >> or an error if I try and access them. I've read KB
>> article
>> >> on MS about Posix commands. They don't work. Can't
find
>> >> process or returns a 'failed' message. I'm doing this
>> all
>> >> via Remote Desktop as server is over 1 hour away.
>> Someone
>> >> else said environment variables have to be set.. Hmm,
>> gee
>> >> where is that documented as I looked in the Posix
>> >> manual... I'd really appreciate it if someone can
tell
>> me
>> >> how to get rid of these directories. We closed our
FTP
>> and
>> >> I have checked user rights/groups and stuff, nothing
out
>> >> of the ordinary. But as Administrator you think I'd
just
>> >> click on em and delete em...but no.
>> >>
>> >> We are pursuing the hacker in GERMANY. Whoever it is,
>> >> trust me, you hacked the wrong site. You're good,
but I
>> >> have 3 layers of logging on.. I got you tracked
biatch!
>> >>
>> >> I'm looking for a utility that can go and delete
these
>> >> directories or someone who really actually knows how
to
>> >> use the posix commands to remove the directories.
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

Mike Brannigan [MSFT]
December 14th 03, 02:43 AM
If you are getting issues with deleting folders even though you have
permissions then you may be forced to stop any service that might be holding
a lock on those folders - such as a web or FTP service.


--
Regards,

Mike
--
Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights

Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
Please use these newsgroups

"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in message
...
> Ya we did that and 'permission denied' still, somewhere
> down the tree of the folder it experiences a permissions
> error..Unfortunately we are unable to go down the tree of
> the directory but I will look closer at the permissions
> and owner. Right now it's all administrator as far as I
> can see and I made sure to use the checkbox to ensure it
> goes down to the childnodes and sub directories.
>
> I will look at it more and see. I was thinking these
> directories might have some kind of root somewhere that we
> could delete and get rid of them, but as you said, I will
> look at it as simply files and folders.
>
> I wish there was a utility out there that could easily do
> this for us and just simply nuke the directory..
> unfortunately haven't found any.
>
> thanks for your help! I will post again if I meet any
> problems, hope you can check on here once in a while for
> next day or so...hehehehehe!
>
> Tom
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> ok, questions. Map a drive to root of what?
> >
> >The Physical disk on the remote server that holds the
> offending folders.
> >
> >Forget about the homepage, FTP or Web side of things -
> just deal at the
> >simplest level of the disk folders themselves.
> >
> >Ok - so you have a remote desktop session to the server.
> The you do not need
> >to do any mapping.
> >Just logon to the remote desktop as the server
> Administrator and then take
> >ownership of the folders and then reset the permissions
> and delete.
> >
> >--
> >Regards,
> >
> >Mike
> >--
> >Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
> >
> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no
> >rights
> >
> >Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
> >Please use these newsgroups
> >
> >"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> ok, questions. Map a drive to root of what? the
> homepage?
> >> or to the c:\. i have accessed the folder and changed
> >> permission and stuff on it all way down the tree using
> the
> >> bullets and stuff but still says permission denied, is
> >> this because i didn't map a drive? I assume you meant to
> >> c:\
> >>
> >> The directory i am trying to delete in the root of our
> >> homepage is \ \, like that... and in the logs for it
> this
> >> directory is seen created as \++\.. Even after changing
> >> owner and stuff says permission denied or it craps out
> >> while trying to change the permission somewhere down the
> >> hierarchy of this folder.
> >>
> >> I am doing this via remote desktop...
> >>
> >> Thanks for your fast response.
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Tom,
> >> >
> >> >This has nothing to do with POSIX commands.
> >> >
> >> >All you need do is take ownership of the folders/files
> >> and then reset the
> >> >permissions on them (which you can now do as you re the
> >> owner even though
> >> >you may not have permissions to begin with).
> >> >Give your self Full Control and ensure that they are
> >> propagated to all child
> >> >files and folders (you will be asked if this is what
> you
> >> want to do).
> >> >Then just delete them.
> >> >
> >> >You can do this by mapping a drive to the root of the
> >> disk volume which by
> >> >default exists as the admin share <drive letter>$
> e.g. F$
> >> >
> >> >You should do all of the is under an administrative
> >> account.
> >> >
> >> >Taking ownership and resetting file permissions are
> >> covered in the online
> >> >help for your OS.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Regards,
> >> >
> >> >Mike
> >> >--
> >> >Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
> >> >
> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
> and
> >> confers no
> >> >rights
> >> >
> >> >Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
> >> >Please use these newsgroups
> >> >
> >> >"Tom" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> I got directories someone created after someone gave
> R/W
> >> >> to anonymous FTP, doh. Fixed that issue but i have
> >> >> directories I can't delete and give me permission
> denied
> >> >> or an error if I try and access them. I've read KB
> >> article
> >> >> on MS about Posix commands. They don't work. Can't
> find
> >> >> process or returns a 'failed' message. I'm doing this
> >> all
> >> >> via Remote Desktop as server is over 1 hour away.
> >> Someone
> >> >> else said environment variables have to be set.. Hmm,
> >> gee
> >> >> where is that documented as I looked in the Posix
> >> >> manual... I'd really appreciate it if someone can
> tell
> >> me
> >> >> how to get rid of these directories. We closed our
> FTP
> >> and
> >> >> I have checked user rights/groups and stuff, nothing
> out
> >> >> of the ordinary. But as Administrator you think I'd
> just
> >> >> click on em and delete em...but no.
> >> >>
> >> >> We are pursuing the hacker in GERMANY. Whoever it is,
> >> >> trust me, you hacked the wrong site. You're good,
> but I
> >> >> have 3 layers of logging on.. I got you tracked
> biatch!
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm looking for a utility that can go and delete
> these
> >> >> directories or someone who really actually knows how
> to
> >> >> use the posix commands to remove the directories.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >

Tom Valenzuela
December 14th 03, 02:43 AM
Well this helped. I turned off IIS, ensure administrator
had the rights and began removing directories, all that
remain now that don't delete are the following... As you
will see they are not owned by BUILTIN

04/22/2003 05:09p <DIR> 00TAGG~1 ---
00tagged
05/11/2003 09:43p <DIR> ^33945~1 ---
^ 33945

Any ideas??? Tried all commands, Access Denied and there
is no Security tab when you right click the folder...
unlike the other ones I was able to delete... Interesting
to say the least.

In the end, Microsoft, you should have a tool to remove
such things. It's a shame your OS has such vulnerability
and very little tools to fix them.

Regards,
Tom


Tom
>-----Original Message-----
>If you are getting issues with deleting folders even
though you have
>permissions then you may be forced to stop any service
that might be holding
>a lock on those folders - such as a web or FTP service.
>
>
>--
>Regards,
>
>Mike
>--
>Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no
>rights
>
>Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
>Please use these newsgroups
>
>"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in
message
...
>> Ya we did that and 'permission denied' still, somewhere
>> down the tree of the folder it experiences a
permissions
>> error..Unfortunately we are unable to go down the tree
of
>> the directory but I will look closer at the permissions
>> and owner. Right now it's all administrator as far as I
>> can see and I made sure to use the checkbox to ensure
it
>> goes down to the childnodes and sub directories.
>>
>> I will look at it more and see. I was thinking these
>> directories might have some kind of root somewhere
that we
>> could delete and get rid of them, but as you said, I
will
>> look at it as simply files and folders.
>>
>> I wish there was a utility out there that could easily
do
>> this for us and just simply nuke the directory..
>> unfortunately haven't found any.
>>
>> thanks for your help! I will post again if I meet any
>> problems, hope you can check on here once in a while
for
>> next day or so...hehehehehe!
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in
message
>> ...
>> >> ok, questions. Map a drive to root of what?
>> >
>> >The Physical disk on the remote server that holds the
>> offending folders.
>> >
>> >Forget about the homepage, FTP or Web side of things -
>> just deal at the
>> >simplest level of the disk folders themselves.
>> >
>> >Ok - so you have a remote desktop session to the
server.
>> The you do not need
>> >to do any mapping.
>> >Just logon to the remote desktop as the server
>> Administrator and then take
>> >ownership of the folders and then reset the
permissions
>> and delete.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >--
>> >Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>> >
>> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
>> confers no
>> >rights
>> >
>> >Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
>> >Please use these newsgroups
>> >
>> >"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in
message
>> ...
>> >> ok, questions. Map a drive to root of what? the
>> homepage?
>> >> or to the c:\. i have accessed the folder and
changed
>> >> permission and stuff on it all way down the tree
using
>> the
>> >> bullets and stuff but still says permission denied,
is
>> >> this because i didn't map a drive? I assume you
meant to
>> >> c:\
>> >>
>> >> The directory i am trying to delete in the root of
our
>> >> homepage is \ \, like that... and in the logs for
it
>> this
>> >> directory is seen created as \++\.. Even after
changing
>> >> owner and stuff says permission denied or it craps
out
>> >> while trying to change the permission somewhere
down the
>> >> hierarchy of this folder.
>> >>
>> >> I am doing this via remote desktop...
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your fast response.
>> >> Tom
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >Tom,
>> >> >
>> >> >This has nothing to do with POSIX commands.
>> >> >
>> >> >All you need do is take ownership of the
folders/files
>> >> and then reset the
>> >> >permissions on them (which you can now do as you
re the
>> >> owner even though
>> >> >you may not have permissions to begin with).
>> >> >Give your self Full Control and ensure that they
are
>> >> propagated to all child
>> >> >files and folders (you will be asked if this is
what
>> you
>> >> want to do).
>> >> >Then just delete them.
>> >> >
>> >> >You can do this by mapping a drive to the root of
the
>> >> disk volume which by
>> >> >default exists as the admin share <drive letter>$
>> e.g. F$
>> >> >
>> >> >You should do all of the is under an administrative
>> >> account.
>> >> >
>> >> >Taking ownership and resetting file permissions are
>> >> covered in the online
>> >> >help for your OS.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> >Mike
>> >> >--
>> >> >Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>> >> >
>> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties,
>> and
>> >> confers no
>> >> >rights
>> >> >
>> >> >Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
>> >> >Please use these newsgroups
>> >> >
>> >> >"Tom" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> I got directories someone created after someone
gave
>> R/W
>> >> >> to anonymous FTP, doh. Fixed that issue but i
have
>> >> >> directories I can't delete and give me permission
>> denied
>> >> >> or an error if I try and access them. I've read
KB
>> >> article
>> >> >> on MS about Posix commands. They don't work.
Can't
>> find
>> >> >> process or returns a 'failed' message. I'm doing
this
>> >> all
>> >> >> via Remote Desktop as server is over 1 hour away.
>> >> Someone
>> >> >> else said environment variables have to be set..
Hmm,
>> >> gee
>> >> >> where is that documented as I looked in the Posix
>> >> >> manual... I'd really appreciate it if someone can
>> tell
>> >> me
>> >> >> how to get rid of these directories. We closed
our
>> FTP
>> >> and
>> >> >> I have checked user rights/groups and stuff,
nothing
>> out
>> >> >> of the ordinary. But as Administrator you think
I'd
>> just
>> >> >> click on em and delete em...but no.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We are pursuing the hacker in GERMANY. Whoever
it is,
>> >> >> trust me, you hacked the wrong site. You're good,
>> but I
>> >> >> have 3 layers of logging on.. I got you tracked
>> biatch!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm looking for a utility that can go and delete
>> these
>> >> >> directories or someone who really actually knows
how
>> to
>> >> >> use the posix commands to remove the directories.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

Mike Brannigan [MSFT]
December 14th 03, 02:44 AM
Tom,

Have a look at the FSUTIL command and see if the folders you are dealing
with are hard linked anywhere.
Try taking ownership of the individual folders.

Ultimately you may be forced to visit the server and bring it up in single
either recovery console or repair mode and try it that way.


As regards this all being our fault due to a" vulnerability in our OS", I
believe in your original pots you admitted that it was due to someone giving
anonymous FTP RW access. This is a security configuration issue and not an
OS vulnerability. Remember - leave the front door to you house open and you
may just get robbed.

We could never release a tool that would circumvent he built in security
protection, you can obviously see the inherent danger in that. In most
cases the inbuilt tools are sufficient coupled with the other systems of
ownership and the take ownership rights etc.

--
Regards,

Mike
--
Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights

Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
Please use these newsgroups

"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in message
...
> Well this helped. I turned off IIS, ensure administrator
> had the rights and began removing directories, all that
> remain now that don't delete are the following... As you
> will see they are not owned by BUILTIN
>
> 04/22/2003 05:09p <DIR> 00TAGG~1 ---
> 00tagged
> 05/11/2003 09:43p <DIR> ^33945~1 ---
> ^ 33945
>
> Any ideas??? Tried all commands, Access Denied and there
> is no Security tab when you right click the folder...
> unlike the other ones I was able to delete... Interesting
> to say the least.
>
> In the end, Microsoft, you should have a tool to remove
> such things. It's a shame your OS has such vulnerability
> and very little tools to fix them.
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>
>
> Tom
> >-----Original Message-----
> >If you are getting issues with deleting folders even
> though you have
> >permissions then you may be forced to stop any service
> that might be holding
> >a lock on those folders - such as a web or FTP service.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Regards,
> >
> >Mike
> >--
> >Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
> >
> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no
> >rights
> >
> >Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
> >Please use these newsgroups
> >
> >"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in
> message
> ...
> >> Ya we did that and 'permission denied' still, somewhere
> >> down the tree of the folder it experiences a
> permissions
> >> error..Unfortunately we are unable to go down the tree
> of
> >> the directory but I will look closer at the permissions
> >> and owner. Right now it's all administrator as far as I
> >> can see and I made sure to use the checkbox to ensure
> it
> >> goes down to the childnodes and sub directories.
> >>
> >> I will look at it more and see. I was thinking these
> >> directories might have some kind of root somewhere
> that we
> >> could delete and get rid of them, but as you said, I
> will
> >> look at it as simply files and folders.
> >>
> >> I wish there was a utility out there that could easily
> do
> >> this for us and just simply nuke the directory..
> >> unfortunately haven't found any.
> >>
> >> thanks for your help! I will post again if I meet any
> >> problems, hope you can check on here once in a while
> for
> >> next day or so...hehehehehe!
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in
> message
> >> ...
> >> >> ok, questions. Map a drive to root of what?
> >> >
> >> >The Physical disk on the remote server that holds the
> >> offending folders.
> >> >
> >> >Forget about the homepage, FTP or Web side of things -
> >> just deal at the
> >> >simplest level of the disk folders themselves.
> >> >
> >> >Ok - so you have a remote desktop session to the
> server.
> >> The you do not need
> >> >to do any mapping.
> >> >Just logon to the remote desktop as the server
> >> Administrator and then take
> >> >ownership of the folders and then reset the
> permissions
> >> and delete.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Regards,
> >> >
> >> >Mike
> >> >--
> >> >Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
> >> >
> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
> and
> >> confers no
> >> >rights
> >> >
> >> >Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
> >> >Please use these newsgroups
> >> >
> >> >"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in
> message
> >> ...
> >> >> ok, questions. Map a drive to root of what? the
> >> homepage?
> >> >> or to the c:\. i have accessed the folder and
> changed
> >> >> permission and stuff on it all way down the tree
> using
> >> the
> >> >> bullets and stuff but still says permission denied,
> is
> >> >> this because i didn't map a drive? I assume you
> meant to
> >> >> c:\
> >> >>
> >> >> The directory i am trying to delete in the root of
> our
> >> >> homepage is \ \, like that... and in the logs for
> it
> >> this
> >> >> directory is seen created as \++\.. Even after
> changing
> >> >> owner and stuff says permission denied or it craps
> out
> >> >> while trying to change the permission somewhere
> down the
> >> >> hierarchy of this folder.
> >> >>
> >> >> I am doing this via remote desktop...
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for your fast response.
> >> >> Tom
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >Tom,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >This has nothing to do with POSIX commands.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >All you need do is take ownership of the
> folders/files
> >> >> and then reset the
> >> >> >permissions on them (which you can now do as you
> re the
> >> >> owner even though
> >> >> >you may not have permissions to begin with).
> >> >> >Give your self Full Control and ensure that they
> are
> >> >> propagated to all child
> >> >> >files and folders (you will be asked if this is
> what
> >> you
> >> >> want to do).
> >> >> >Then just delete them.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You can do this by mapping a drive to the root of
> the
> >> >> disk volume which by
> >> >> >default exists as the admin share <drive letter>$
> >> e.g. F$
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You should do all of the is under an administrative
> >> >> account.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Taking ownership and resetting file permissions are
> >> >> covered in the online
> >> >> >help for your OS.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >Regards,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Mike
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
> >> >> >
> >> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
> warranties,
> >> and
> >> >> confers no
> >> >> >rights
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
> >> >> >Please use these newsgroups
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Tom" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> I got directories someone created after someone
> gave
> >> R/W
> >> >> >> to anonymous FTP, doh. Fixed that issue but i
> have
> >> >> >> directories I can't delete and give me permission
> >> denied
> >> >> >> or an error if I try and access them. I've read
> KB
> >> >> article
> >> >> >> on MS about Posix commands. They don't work.
> Can't
> >> find
> >> >> >> process or returns a 'failed' message. I'm doing
> this
> >> >> all
> >> >> >> via Remote Desktop as server is over 1 hour away.
> >> >> Someone
> >> >> >> else said environment variables have to be set..
> Hmm,
> >> >> gee
> >> >> >> where is that documented as I looked in the Posix
> >> >> >> manual... I'd really appreciate it if someone can
> >> tell
> >> >> me
> >> >> >> how to get rid of these directories. We closed
> our
> >> FTP
> >> >> and
> >> >> >> I have checked user rights/groups and stuff,
> nothing
> >> out
> >> >> >> of the ordinary. But as Administrator you think
> I'd
> >> just
> >> >> >> click on em and delete em...but no.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> We are pursuing the hacker in GERMANY. Whoever
> it is,
> >> >> >> trust me, you hacked the wrong site. You're good,
> >> but I
> >> >> >> have 3 layers of logging on.. I got you tracked
> >> biatch!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I'm looking for a utility that can go and delete
> >> these
> >> >> >> directories or someone who really actually knows
> how
> >> to
> >> >> >> use the posix commands to remove the directories.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >

Tom Valenzuela
December 14th 03, 02:44 AM
You are correct but I cannot ascertain it was someone
allowed anonymous to write. As expected, nobody remembers
if they did such a thing.

The only problem here Mike is that I am running 2000
advanced server(yes, i posted accidentally in xp group)
and the command you gave is for XP. =(


Tom
>-----Original Message-----
>Tom,
>
>Have a look at the FSUTIL command and see if the folders
you are dealing
>with are hard linked anywhere.
>Try taking ownership of the individual folders.
>
>Ultimately you may be forced to visit the server and
bring it up in single
>either recovery console or repair mode and try it that
way.
>
>
>As regards this all being our fault due to a"
vulnerability in our OS", I
>believe in your original pots you admitted that it was
due to someone giving
>anonymous FTP RW access. This is a security
configuration issue and not an
>OS vulnerability. Remember - leave the front door to
you house open and you
>may just get robbed.
>
>We could never release a tool that would circumvent he
built in security
>protection, you can obviously see the inherent danger
in that. In most
>cases the inbuilt tools are sufficient coupled with the
other systems of
>ownership and the take ownership rights etc.
>
>--
>Regards,
>
>Mike
>--
>Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no
>rights
>
>Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
>Please use these newsgroups
>
>"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in
message
...
>> Well this helped. I turned off IIS, ensure
administrator
>> had the rights and began removing directories, all that
>> remain now that don't delete are the following... As
you
>> will see they are not owned by BUILTIN
>>
>> 04/22/2003 05:09p <DIR>
00TAGG~1 ---
>> 00tagged
>> 05/11/2003 09:43p <DIR>
^33945~1 ---
>> ^ 33945
>>
>> Any ideas??? Tried all commands, Access Denied and
there
>> is no Security tab when you right click the folder...
>> unlike the other ones I was able to delete...
Interesting
>> to say the least.
>>
>> In the end, Microsoft, you should have a tool to remove
>> such things. It's a shame your OS has such
vulnerability
>> and very little tools to fix them.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> Tom
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >If you are getting issues with deleting folders even
>> though you have
>> >permissions then you may be forced to stop any service
>> that might be holding
>> >a lock on those folders - such as a web or FTP
service.
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >--
>> >Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>> >
>> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
>> confers no
>> >rights
>> >
>> >Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
>> >Please use these newsgroups
>> >
>> >"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in
>> message
>> ...
>> >> Ya we did that and 'permission denied' still,
somewhere
>> >> down the tree of the folder it experiences a
>> permissions
>> >> error..Unfortunately we are unable to go down the
tree
>> of
>> >> the directory but I will look closer at the
permissions
>> >> and owner. Right now it's all administrator as far
as I
>> >> can see and I made sure to use the checkbox to
ensure
>> it
>> >> goes down to the childnodes and sub directories.
>> >>
>> >> I will look at it more and see. I was thinking these
>> >> directories might have some kind of root somewhere
>> that we
>> >> could delete and get rid of them, but as you said, I
>> will
>> >> look at it as simply files and folders.
>> >>
>> >> I wish there was a utility out there that could
easily
>> do
>> >> this for us and just simply nuke the directory..
>> >> unfortunately haven't found any.
>> >>
>> >> thanks for your help! I will post again if I meet
any
>> >> problems, hope you can check on here once in a while
>> for
>> >> next day or so...hehehehehe!
>> >>
>> >> Tom
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in
>> message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> ok, questions. Map a drive to root of what?
>> >> >
>> >> >The Physical disk on the remote server that holds
the
>> >> offending folders.
>> >> >
>> >> >Forget about the homepage, FTP or Web side of
things -
>> >> just deal at the
>> >> >simplest level of the disk folders themselves.
>> >> >
>> >> >Ok - so you have a remote desktop session to the
>> server.
>> >> The you do not need
>> >> >to do any mapping.
>> >> >Just logon to the remote desktop as the server
>> >> Administrator and then take
>> >> >ownership of the folders and then reset the
>> permissions
>> >> and delete.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> >Mike
>> >> >--
>> >> >Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>> >> >
>> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties,
>> and
>> >> confers no
>> >> >rights
>> >> >
>> >> >Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
>> >> >Please use these newsgroups
>> >> >
>> >> >"Tom Valenzuela" > wrote in
>> message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> ok, questions. Map a drive to root of what? the
>> >> homepage?
>> >> >> or to the c:\. i have accessed the folder and
>> changed
>> >> >> permission and stuff on it all way down the tree
>> using
>> >> the
>> >> >> bullets and stuff but still says permission
denied,
>> is
>> >> >> this because i didn't map a drive? I assume you
>> meant to
>> >> >> c:\
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The directory i am trying to delete in the root
of
>> our
>> >> >> homepage is \ \, like that... and in the logs
for
>> it
>> >> this
>> >> >> directory is seen created as \++\.. Even after
>> changing
>> >> >> owner and stuff says permission denied or it
craps
>> out
>> >> >> while trying to change the permission somewhere
>> down the
>> >> >> hierarchy of this folder.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am doing this via remote desktop...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for your fast response.
>> >> >> Tom
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >Tom,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >This has nothing to do with POSIX commands.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >All you need do is take ownership of the
>> folders/files
>> >> >> and then reset the
>> >> >> >permissions on them (which you can now do as you
>> re the
>> >> >> owner even though
>> >> >> >you may not have permissions to begin with).
>> >> >> >Give your self Full Control and ensure that they
>> are
>> >> >> propagated to all child
>> >> >> >files and folders (you will be asked if this is
>> what
>> >> you
>> >> >> want to do).
>> >> >> >Then just delete them.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >You can do this by mapping a drive to the root
of
>> the
>> >> >> disk volume which by
>> >> >> >default exists as the admin share <drive
letter>$
>> >> e.g. F$
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >You should do all of the is under an
administrative
>> >> >> account.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Taking ownership and resetting file permissions
are
>> >> >> covered in the online
>> >> >> >help for your OS.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >Regards,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Mike
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
>> warranties,
>> >> and
>> >> >> confers no
>> >> >> >rights
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed
questions.
>> >> >> >Please use these newsgroups
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Tom" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> I got directories someone created after
someone
>> gave
>> >> R/W
>> >> >> >> to anonymous FTP, doh. Fixed that issue but i
>> have
>> >> >> >> directories I can't delete and give me
permission
>> >> denied
>> >> >> >> or an error if I try and access them. I've
read
>> KB
>> >> >> article
>> >> >> >> on MS about Posix commands. They don't work.
>> Can't
>> >> find
>> >> >> >> process or returns a 'failed' message. I'm
doing
>> this
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> via Remote Desktop as server is over 1 hour
away.
>> >> >> Someone
>> >> >> >> else said environment variables have to be
set..
>> Hmm,
>> >> >> gee
>> >> >> >> where is that documented as I looked in the
Posix
>> >> >> >> manual... I'd really appreciate it if someone
can
>> >> tell
>> >> >> me
>> >> >> >> how to get rid of these directories. We closed
>> our
>> >> FTP
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> I have checked user rights/groups and stuff,
>> nothing
>> >> out
>> >> >> >> of the ordinary. But as Administrator you
think
>> I'd
>> >> just
>> >> >> >> click on em and delete em...but no.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> We are pursuing the hacker in GERMANY. Whoever
>> it is,
>> >> >> >> trust me, you hacked the wrong site. You're
good,
>> >> but I
>> >> >> >> have 3 layers of logging on.. I got you
tracked
>> >> biatch!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I'm looking for a utility that can go and
delete
>> >> these
>> >> >> >> directories or someone who really actually
knows
>> how
>> >> to
>> >> >> >> use the posix commands to remove the
directories.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

Mark
December 14th 03, 07:48 AM
To remove uncleanable directories I used these 2 commands (at command
prompt):

del \\.\c:\somedir\baddir /s /q /f

rmdir \\.\c:\somedir\baddir /s /q

During rmdir I received an error: a directory was in use. The solution
is simple: you have to copy the directory name, then edit your
autoexec.bat or autoexec.nt or winstart.bat etc... and put a del
<dirname> command into it, then reboot and relaunch the rmdir
(remember to remove this command after you used it).

I hope it helps :)

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