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Mr doe
November 1st 09, 10:54 PM
I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself listed
as well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a Welcome screen
without Administrator on it .

Win 7 professional.

Dave-UK[_3_]
November 1st 09, 11:29 PM
"Mr doe" > wrote in message ...
> I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself listed
> as well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a Welcome screen
> without Administrator on it .
>
> Win 7 professional.

Right-click Computer > Manage > Local Users and Groups > Users
Double-click 'Administrator'
Select 'Account is disabled'.
Click 'Apply' , 'OK'.
Reboot/log off

If your account has no password then you should boot to your desktop.

Andy[_12_]
November 2nd 09, 12:02 AM
"Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in
:

>
> "Mr doe" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself
>> listed as well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a
>> Welcome screen without Administrator on it .
>>
>> Win 7 professional.
>
> Right-click Computer > Manage > Local Users and Groups > Users
> Double-click 'Administrator'
> Select 'Account is disabled'.
> Click 'Apply' , 'OK'.
> Reboot/log off
>
> If your account has no password then you should boot to your desktop.


Whoa!

I don't entirely know what you mean but it sounds like some good magic
worth saving!!!

Thanks,

Andy

Gordon
November 2nd 09, 07:16 AM
"Mr doe" > wrote in message
...
> I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself listed as
> well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a Welcome screen
> without Administrator on it .
>
> Win 7 professional.

So how come the Administrator account is there in the first place? This
account is disabled BY DEFAULT in both Vista and Windows 7.
Something happened to make it appear. This /might/ be the action of malware
or a virus.

Dave-UK[_3_]
November 2nd 09, 03:47 PM
"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> "Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> "Mr doe" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself
>>> listed as well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a
>>> Welcome screen without Administrator on it .
>>>
>>> Win 7 professional.
>>
>> Right-click Computer > Manage > Local Users and Groups > Users
>> Double-click 'Administrator'
>> Select 'Account is disabled'.
>> Click 'Apply' , 'OK'.
>> Reboot/log off
>>
>> If your account has no password then you should boot to your desktop.
>
>
> Whoa!
>
> I don't entirely know what you mean but it sounds like some good magic
> worth saving!!!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
>
>

From a book I am currently reading:

In Windows NT, 2000, and XP, there was an account named Administrator
that was, by definition, a Computer Administrator account. You may have
noticed that it's nowhere to be seen in Windows 7.
Actually, it's still there, but hidden. There's a good reason for this.
It's disabled by default and hidden on the Welcome screen and even in Safe Mode.
And it requires no password to log on. This was done to provide a way to recover
if you somehow manage to delete the last (other) Computer Administrator account
from your computer. In this case, Windows will automatically enable the
Administrator account so that you can log on (without having to remember a password)
and re-create one or more Computer Administrator accounts, or turn a Standard User
into an Administrator.
(You would then immediately log off and use the restored regular account.)

Gordon
November 2nd 09, 04:26 PM
"Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
...
>
> From a book I am currently reading:
>
> In Windows NT, 2000, and XP, there was an account named Administrator
> that was, by definition, a Computer Administrator account. You may have
> noticed that it's nowhere to be seen in Windows 7.
> Actually, it's still there, but hidden. There's a good reason for this.
> It's disabled by default and hidden on the Welcome screen and even in Safe
> Mode. And it requires no password to log on. This was done to provide a
> way to recover
> if you somehow manage to delete the last (other) Computer Administrator
> account
> from your computer. In this case, Windows will automatically enable the
> Administrator account so that you can log on (without having to remember a
> password)
> and re-create one or more Computer Administrator accounts, or turn a
> Standard User
> into an Administrator.
> (You would then immediately log off and use the restored regular account.)
>

Correct - so my question to the OP (and still not answered) is, what did he
(or someone or something else) do to enable the Administrator Account in the
first place? If he did nothing, then it sounds like malware or a virus to
me...

Dave-UK[_3_]
November 2nd 09, 05:37 PM
"Gordon" > wrote in message ...
>
> "Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> From a book I am currently reading:
>>
>> In Windows NT, 2000, and XP, there was an account named Administrator
>> that was, by definition, a Computer Administrator account. You may have
>> noticed that it's nowhere to be seen in Windows 7.
>> Actually, it's still there, but hidden. There's a good reason for this.
>> It's disabled by default and hidden on the Welcome screen and even in Safe
>> Mode. And it requires no password to log on. This was done to provide a
>> way to recover
>> if you somehow manage to delete the last (other) Computer Administrator
>> account
>> from your computer. In this case, Windows will automatically enable the
>> Administrator account so that you can log on (without having to remember a
>> password)
>> and re-create one or more Computer Administrator accounts, or turn a
>> Standard User
>> into an Administrator.
>> (You would then immediately log off and use the restored regular account.)
>>
>
> Correct - so my question to the OP (and still not answered) is, what did he
> (or someone or something else) do to enable the Administrator Account in the
> first place? If he did nothing, then it sounds like malware or a virus to
> me...
>

If malware or a virus had managed to manipulate the hidden Administrator
account in Vista\Win7 then I think it would be all over the web before now.

Gordon
November 2nd 09, 05:42 PM
"Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
...
>
> If malware or a virus had managed to manipulate the hidden Administrator
> account in Vista\Win7 then I think it would be all over the web before
> now.
>

Well something has happened - it's not overly straightforward to enable the
built-in Administrator account either in Vista or Win 7...

Mr doe
November 2nd 09, 06:49 PM
Mr doe wrote:
> Gordon wrote:
>>
>> "Mr doe" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself
>>> listed as well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a Welcome
>>> screen without Administrator on it .
>>>
>>> Win 7 professional.
>>
>> So how come the Administrator account is there in the first place? This
>> account is disabled BY DEFAULT in both Vista and Windows 7.
>> Something happened to make it appear. This /might/ be the action of
>> malware or a virus.
> This is a New install.. NEWly formatted Drive . Windows 7 professional.
> The Malware Has to be on Microsofts Win7 DVD if there were one...
>
> Same installation , But Now Both of my DVD burners ( NEW) have
> disappeared from win 7... Bios Shows they are reconised . But win7 says
> that the driver CDROM.SYS is Corrupted . And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let
> me Replace CDROM.SYS Even tho I am the administrator .
I created a Restore point last night before Bed time.

I start up the computer this afternoon and The Optical Drives are not
responding. Win7 Statem says that cdrom.sys is corrupted . Don't know
how this could happeb when the power was shut off to the computer for 13
hours .
I did the restore point I made last night and BOTH OPTICAL drives are
now working .
Win 7 is a nightmare . I feel I should put the Win7 cd Thru my Cd
Shreader and go back to Winxp

Now I know Why There is No Microsoft window 7 newsgroups. The Donot
want The Truth being told to prospective Buyers .

Mr doe
November 2nd 09, 07:01 PM
Gordon wrote:
>
> "Mr doe" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself
>> listed as well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a Welcome
>> screen without Administrator on it .
>>
>> Win 7 professional.
>
> So how come the Administrator account is there in the first place? This
> account is disabled BY DEFAULT in both Vista and Windows 7.
> Something happened to make it appear. This /might/ be the action of
> malware or a virus.
This is a New install.. NEWly formatted Drive . Windows 7 professional.
The Malware Has to be on Microsofts Win7 DVD if there were one...

Same installation , But Now Both of my DVD burners ( NEW) have
disappeared from win 7... Bios Shows they are reconised . But win7 says
that the driver CDROM.SYS is Corrupted . And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let
me Replace CDROM.SYS Even tho I am the administrator .

Dave-UK[_3_]
November 2nd 09, 09:35 PM
"Mr doe" > wrote in message ...
> Mr doe wrote:
>> Gordon wrote:
>>>
>>> "Mr doe" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself
>>>> listed as well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a Welcome
>>>> screen without Administrator on it .
>>>>
>>>> Win 7 professional.
>>>
>>> So how come the Administrator account is there in the first place? This
>>> account is disabled BY DEFAULT in both Vista and Windows 7.
>>> Something happened to make it appear. This /might/ be the action of
>>> malware or a virus.
>> This is a New install.. NEWly formatted Drive . Windows 7 professional.
>> The Malware Has to be on Microsofts Win7 DVD if there were one...
>>
>> Same installation , But Now Both of my DVD burners ( NEW) have
>> disappeared from win 7... Bios Shows they are reconised . But win7 says
>> that the driver CDROM.SYS is Corrupted . And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let
>> me Replace CDROM.SYS Even tho I am the administrator .
> I created a Restore point last night before Bed time.
>
> I start up the computer this afternoon and The Optical Drives are not
> responding. Win7 Statem says that cdrom.sys is corrupted . Don't know
> how this could happeb when the power was shut off to the computer for 13
> hours .
> I did the restore point I made last night and BOTH OPTICAL drives are
> now working .
> Win 7 is a nightmare . I feel I should put the Win7 cd Thru my Cd
> Shreader and go back to Winxp
>
> Now I know Why There is No Microsoft window 7 newsgroups. The Donot
> want The Truth being told to prospective Buyers .

But have you removed the Administrator's account from the welcome screen ?

Mr doe
November 2nd 09, 09:49 PM
Dave-UK wrote:
>
> "Mr doe" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Mr doe wrote:
>>> Gordon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Mr doe" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself
>>>>> listed as well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a Welcome
>>>>> screen without Administrator on it .
>>>>>
>>>>> Win 7 professional.
>>>>
>>>> So how come the Administrator account is there in the first place? This
>>>> account is disabled BY DEFAULT in both Vista and Windows 7.
>>>> Something happened to make it appear. This /might/ be the action of
>>>> malware or a virus.
>>> This is a New install.. NEWly formatted Drive . Windows 7 professional.
>>> The Malware Has to be on Microsofts Win7 DVD if there were one...
>>>
>>> Same installation , But Now Both of my DVD burners ( NEW) have
>>> disappeared from win 7... Bios Shows they are reconised . But win7 says
>>> that the driver CDROM.SYS is Corrupted . And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let
>>> me Replace CDROM.SYS Even tho I am the administrator .
>> I created a Restore point last night before Bed time.
>>
>> I start up the computer this afternoon and The Optical Drives are not
>> responding. Win7 Statem says that cdrom.sys is corrupted . Don't know
>> how this could happeb when the power was shut off to the computer for
>> 13 hours .
>> I did the restore point I made last night and BOTH OPTICAL drives are
>> now working .
>> Win 7 is a nightmare . I feel I should put the Win7 cd Thru my Cd
>> Shreader and go back to Winxp
>>
>> Now I know Why There is No Microsoft window 7 newsgroups. The Donot
>> want The Truth being told to prospective Buyers .
>
> But have you removed the Administrator's account from the welcome screen ?
>
>
>
>
Before .... I had to remove the administrator again after I did the Restore

Gordon
November 2nd 09, 09:50 PM
"Mr doe" > wrote in message
...
>> And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let me Replace CDROM.SYS

What is "trustinstaller"?

Mr doe
November 2nd 09, 10:24 PM
Gordon wrote:
>
> "Mr doe" > wrote in message
> ...
>>> And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let me Replace CDROM.SYS
>
> What is "trustinstaller"?
Go to windows/system32/drivers and just try to Delete or Rename
Cdrom.sys and u will get the Trustinstaller Error .

I did find the setting for trustinstaller Via Help and it has the same
menu's similar to administration rights.. But it was Greek to me .

Mr doe
November 2nd 09, 10:28 PM
Mr doe wrote:
> Gordon wrote:
>>
>> "Mr doe" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>> And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let me Replace CDROM.SYS
>>
>> What is "trustinstaller"?
> Go to windows/system32/drivers and just try to Delete or Rename
> Cdrom.sys and u will get the Trustinstaller Error .
>
> I did find the setting for trustinstaller Via Help and it has the same
> menu's similar to administration rights.. But it was Greek to me .
here is an example .. but still looking over microsoft.com site for the
site I mentioned

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/itprovistasp/thread/e041f288-5331-4fe3-a3f4-cfac2eb9f6d4/

Mr doe
November 2nd 09, 10:29 PM
Mr doe wrote:
> Gordon wrote:
>>
>> "Mr doe" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>> And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let me Replace CDROM.SYS
>>
>> What is "trustinstaller"?
> Go to windows/system32/drivers and just try to Delete or Rename
> Cdrom.sys and u will get the Trustinstaller Error .
>
> I did find the setting for trustinstaller Via Help and it has the same
> menu's similar to administration rights.. But it was Greek to me .
http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?form=MSHOME&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&q=trustinstaller

Mr doe
November 2nd 09, 10:40 PM
Mr doe wrote:
> Mr doe wrote:
>> Gordon wrote:
>>>
>>> "Mr doe" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>> And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let me Replace CDROM.SYS
>>>
>>> What is "trustinstaller"?
>> Go to windows/system32/drivers and just try to Delete or Rename
>> Cdrom.sys and u will get the Trustinstaller Error .
>>
>> I did find the setting for trustinstaller Via Help and it has the same
>> menu's similar to administration rights.. But it was Greek to me .
> http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?form=MSHOME&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&q=trustinstaller
>
>
right click on cdrom.sys Choose properties And ther trustinstaller has
ownership of the file .

Gordon
November 3rd 09, 07:54 AM
"Gordon" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Mr doe" > wrote in message
> ...
>>> And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let me Replace CDROM.SYS
>

And how are you trying to replace this file? Sounds to me like you're not
doing it the right way.

Dave-UK[_3_]
November 3rd 09, 09:32 AM
"Gordon" > wrote in message ...
>
> "Mr doe" > wrote in message
> ...
>>> And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let me Replace CDROM.SYS
>
> What is "trustinstaller"?
>

It's TrustedInstaller.

In the hierarchy of Vista\Win7 security TrustedInstaller is the top.
The levels are something like:
Guest
User
Administrators
The Administrator
System
TrustedInstaller

Most of the system files are owned by TrustedInstaller and you
change permissions at your peril! You could easily crash the
system. I think that's why the 'Take Ownership' option was
removed from the right-click menu in the final Win7 release.

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