Backup in Win7

[Walter R.[_2_]]

I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image. Acronis
creates complete drive images that can be restored in the future.

Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 make Acronis redundant? Can
Win 7 actually create storable and retrievable disk images of my C drive,
that will restore my system at a later date ?

That would be great.

Thanks for any input

--
Walter
www.rationality.net
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[m]

Walter R. wrote:
> I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image. Acronis
> creates complete drive images that can be restored in the future.
>
> Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 make Acronis redundant? Can
> Win 7 actually create storable and retrievable disk images of my C drive,
> that will restore my system at a later date ?
>
> That would be great.
>
> Thanks for any input
>

Why don't you try it and find out?

M

[Walter R.[_2_]]

"M" > wrote in message ...
> Walter R. wrote:
>> I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image. Acronis
>> creates complete drive images that can be restored in the future.
>>
>> Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 make Acronis redundant? Can
>> Win 7 actually create storable and retrievable disk images of my C drive,
>> that will restore my system at a later date ?
>>
>> That would be great.
>>
>> Thanks for any input
>>
>
> Why don't you try it and find out?
>
> M


Because I am just getting ready to install Win 7.

[m]

Walter R. wrote:
> "M" > wrote in message ...
>> Walter R. wrote:
>>> I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image. Acronis
>>> creates complete drive images that can be restored in the future.
>>>
>>> Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 make Acronis redundant? Can
>>> Win 7 actually create storable and retrievable disk images of my C drive,
>>> that will restore my system at a later date ?
>>>
>>> That would be great.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any input
>>>
>> Why don't you try it and find out?
>>
>> M
>
>
> Because I am just getting ready to install Win 7.
>
>

Perfect time. Install it and then make an image and see if it works.

M

[Dave-UK[_3_]]

"Walter R." > wrote in message ...
> I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image. Acronis
> creates complete drive images that can be restored in the future.
>
> Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 make Acronis redundant? Can
> Win 7 actually create storable and retrievable disk images of my C drive,
> that will restore my system at a later date ?
>
> That would be great.
>
> Thanks for any input
>
> --
> Walter
> www.rationality.net
> -
>
>

Yes it will, I have tried it with an external hard disk in a usb enclosure.
When you create the backup image Win7 will prompt you to make a
Repair disk. If you haven't done so already create the Repair disk and
burn to cd/DVD (120 M/B).
To restore the image boot from the Repair disk, select your language,
select 'Repair your computer' and select 'Windows Complete Restore'.
It will scan for backup images and list them.
My backup image of 22 G/B took 25 mins to complete.

I haven't been able to backup to DVD so I don't know if that works.

[Walter R.[_2_]]

"M" > wrote in message ...
> Walter R. wrote:
>> "M" > wrote in message ...
>>> Walter R. wrote:
>>>> I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image.
>>>> Acronis creates complete drive images that can be restored in the
>>>> future.
>>>>
>>>> Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 make Acronis redundant?
>>>> Can Win 7 actually create storable and retrievable disk images of my C
>>>> drive, that will restore my system at a later date ?
>>>>
>>>> That would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any input
>>>>
>>> Why don't you try it and find out?
>>>
>>> M
>>
>>
>> Because I am just getting ready to install Win 7.
>
> Perfect time. Install it and then make an image and see if it works.
>
> M


You must be a little dense. Why should I pay $ 50 for a new Acronis program,
necessary for Win 7, if Win 7 has the same facility built in. Dugh

[Walter R.[_2_]]

Thank you, Dave. You just saved me $ 49.95 for a new Acronis program.

--
Walter
www.rationality.net
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"Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
...
>
> "Walter R." > wrote in message
> ...
>> I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image. Acronis
>> creates complete drive images that can be restored in the future.
>>
>> Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 make Acronis redundant? Can
>> Win 7 actually create storable and retrievable disk images of my C drive,
>> that will restore my system at a later date ?
>>
>> That would be great.
>>
>> Thanks for any input
>>
>> --
>> Walter
>> www.rationality.net
>> -
>
> Yes it will, I have tried it with an external hard disk in a usb
> enclosure.
> When you create the backup image Win7 will prompt you to make a Repair
> disk. If you haven't done so already create the Repair disk and burn to
> cd/DVD (120 M/B).
> To restore the image boot from the Repair disk, select your language,
> select 'Repair your computer' and select 'Windows Complete Restore'.
> It will scan for backup images and list them.
> My backup image of 22 G/B took 25 mins to complete.
>
> I haven't been able to backup to DVD so I don't know if that works.
>
>
>
>

[Anthony Buckland]

"Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
...
>
> "Walter R." > wrote in message
> ...
>> I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image. Acronis
>> creates complete drive images that can be restored in the future.
>>
>> Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 make Acronis redundant? Can
>> Win 7 actually create storable and retrievable disk images of my C drive,
>> that will restore my system at a later date ?
>>
>> That would be great.
>>
>> Thanks for any input
>>
>> --
>> Walter
>> www.rationality.net
>> -
>
> Yes it will, I have tried it with an external hard disk in a usb
> enclosure.
> When you create the backup image Win7 will prompt you to make a Repair
> disk. If you haven't done so already create the Repair disk and burn to
> cd/DVD (120 M/B).
> To restore the image boot from the Repair disk, select your language,
> select 'Repair your computer' and select 'Windows Complete Restore'.
> It will scan for backup images and list them.
> My backup image of 22 G/B took 25 mins to complete.
>
> I haven't been able to backup to DVD so I don't know if that works.

I'm not clear whether you actually applied the restore procedure
and successfully restored your image. Did you, if so did your system
function properly after restoring, and (again if so) how long did the
restore take (in this case, knowing your processor and R/W speeds
would help). Thanks, from a long-time Acronis user who expects
sooner or later to face this choice.

[Dave-UK[_3_]]

"Anthony Buckland" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message ...
>>
>> "Walter R." > wrote in message ...
>>> I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image. Acronis creates complete drive images that can be
>>> restored in the future.
>>>
>>> Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 make Acronis redundant? Can Win 7 actually create storable and
>>> retrievable disk images of my C drive, that will restore my system at a later date ?
>>>
>>> That would be great.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any input
>>>
>>> --
>>> Walter
>>> www.rationality.net
>>> -
>>
>> Yes it will, I have tried it with an external hard disk in a usb enclosure.
>> When you create the backup image Win7 will prompt you to make a Repair disk. If you haven't done so already create
>> the Repair disk and burn to cd/DVD (120 M/B).
>> To restore the image boot from the Repair disk, select your language,
>> select 'Repair your computer' and select 'Windows Complete Restore'.
>> It will scan for backup images and list them.
>> My backup image of 22 G/B took 25 mins to complete.
>>
>> I haven't been able to backup to DVD so I don't know if that works.
>
> I'm not clear whether you actually applied the restore procedure
> and successfully restored your image. Did you, if so did your system
> function properly after restoring, and (again if so) how long did the
> restore take (in this case, knowing your processor and R/W speeds
> would help). Thanks, from a long-time Acronis user who expects
> sooner or later to face this choice.
>

I created a system image with Win7 some weeks ago.
I created a repair disk at the same time.
I booted from the repair disk about an hour ago and restored
the image I had created some weeks ago.
When the restore was finished the system rebooted.
I then had a system that was some weeks old but fully functional.
The image was 22 G/B and took 25 minutes to complete.

To bring my system back to today's state I booted my BartPE disk
and restored from my DriveImage XML (freeware) backup which I
prefer as I have used that system for years and it works every time.

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Walter R." > wrote in message ...
>
>
> "M" > wrote in message ...
>> Walter R. wrote:
>>> "M" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Walter R. wrote:
>>>>> I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image.
>>>>> Acronis creates complete drive images that can be restored in the
>>>>> future.
>>>>>
>>>>> Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 make Acronis redundant?
>>>>> Can Win 7 actually create storable and retrievable disk images of my C
>>>>> drive, that will restore my system at a later date ?
>>>>>
>>>>> That would be great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any input
>>>>>
>>>> Why don't you try it and find out?
>>>>
>>>> M
>>>
>>>
>>> Because I am just getting ready to install Win 7.
>>
>> Perfect time. Install it and then make an image and see if it works.
>>
>> M
>
>
> You must be a little dense. Why should I pay $ 50 for a new Acronis
> program, necessary for Win 7, if Win 7 has the same facility built in.
> Dugh
>

You led us to believe from your first line that you already owned ATI. Does
the version you have not work with Win7?

SC Tom

[Gordon]

On 2009-11-12, Walter R. > wrote:
>
>
> "M" > wrote in message ...
>> Walter R. wrote:
>>> "M" > wrote in message ...
>>>> Walter R. wrote:
>>>>> I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image.
>>>>> Acronis creates complete drive images that can be restored in the
>>>>> future.
>>>>>
>>>>> Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 make Acronis redundant?
>>>>> Can Win 7 actually create storable and retrievable disk images of my C
>>>>> drive, that will restore my system at a later date ?
>>>>>
>>>>> That would be great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any input
>>>>>
>>>> Why don't you try it and find out?
>>>>
>>>> M
>>>
>>>
>>> Because I am just getting ready to install Win 7.
>>
>> Perfect time. Install it and then make an image and see if it works.
>>
>> M
>
>
> You must be a little dense. Why should I pay $ 50 for a new Acronis program,
> necessary for Win 7, if Win 7 has the same facility built in. Dugh
>
>
Duh? Install Ms Windows 7. Do a backup image, wipe the HD and see if you
can restore from the image? Then you will know if you wish to shell out for
Acronis. Yes?

[Christian Barmala]

"Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote:
>>> "Walter R." > wrote:
>>>> I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image.
>>>> Acronis creates complete drive images that can be restored in the
>>>> future. Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 ... actually
>>>> create storable and retrievable disk images of my C drive, that will
>>>> restore my system at a later date ?
>
> I booted from the repair disk about an hour ago and restored the image I
> had created some weeks ago. When the restore was finished the system
> rebooted. I then had a system that was some weeks old but fully
> functional.

Did you have to reactivate Windows 7 or did it recognize that the hardware
is still the same after restore?

Christian

[Dave-UK[_3_]]

"Christian Barmala" > wrote in message ...
>
>
> "Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote:
>>>> "Walter R." > wrote:
>>>>> I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image.
>>>>> Acronis creates complete drive images that can be restored in the
>>>>> future. Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 ... actually
>>>>> create storable and retrievable disk images of my C drive, that will
>>>>> restore my system at a later date ?
>>
>> I booted from the repair disk about an hour ago and restored the image I
>> had created some weeks ago. When the restore was finished the system
>> rebooted. I then had a system that was some weeks old but fully
>> functional.
>
> Did you have to reactivate Windows 7 or did it recognize that the hardware
> is still the same after restore?
>
> Christian
>

No, I didn't have to reactivate Windows 7.

[Bigguy]

Walter R. wrote:
> I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image. Acronis
> creates complete drive images that can be restored in the future.
>
> Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 make Acronis redundant? Can
> Win 7 actually create storable and retrievable disk images of my C drive,
> that will restore my system at a later date ?
>
> That would be great.
>
> Thanks for any input
>
Yes it works.

I used it when I replaced/upgraded the HDD in my Laptop.

Win 7 backup to external USD HDD image.

In with new HDD, boot from restore CD.

Image copied back to new HDD - all present and fully working, just like
with Acronis.

Approx 45min to restore 22GB image.

Happy me.



Guy

[Sparky[_2_]]

"Bigguy" > wrote in message
...
> Walter R. wrote:
>> I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image. Acronis
>> creates complete drive images that can be restored in the future.
>>
>> Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 make Acronis redundant? Can
>> Win 7 actually create storable and retrievable disk images of my C drive,
>> that will restore my system at a later date ?
>>
>> That would be great.
>>
>> Thanks for any input
>>
> Yes it works.
>
> I used it when I replaced/upgraded the HDD in my Laptop.
>
> Win 7 backup to external USD HDD image.
>
> In with new HDD, boot from restore CD.
>
> Image copied back to new HDD - all present and fully working, just like
> with Acronis.
>
> Approx 45min to restore 22GB image.
>
> Happy me.
>
>
>
> Guy

Great Discussion , I was just wondering about all this myself.
It looks like the image to external works , does it provide an option for
creating a partition for the images ?
If not , is it possible to save the image to an existing partition ?
Thanks

[Dave-UK[_3_]]

"Sparky" > wrote in message ...
>
> "Bigguy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Walter R. wrote:
>>> I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image. Acronis
>>> creates complete drive images that can be restored in the future.
>>>
>>> Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 make Acronis redundant? Can
>>> Win 7 actually create storable and retrievable disk images of my C drive,
>>> that will restore my system at a later date ?
>>>
>>> That would be great.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any input
>>>
>> Yes it works.
>>
>> I used it when I replaced/upgraded the HDD in my Laptop.
>>
>> Win 7 backup to external USD HDD image.
>>
>> In with new HDD, boot from restore CD.
>>
>> Image copied back to new HDD - all present and fully working, just like
>> with Acronis.
>>
>> Approx 45min to restore 22GB image.
>>
>> Happy me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Guy
>
> Great Discussion , I was just wondering about all this myself.
> It looks like the image to external works , does it provide an option for
> creating a partition for the images ?
> If not , is it possible to save the image to an existing partition ?
> Thanks
>

There's no option for creating partitions, it's just a basic imaging facility.
Here's the operation from start to finish:
http://www.admin1.myzen.co.uk/Win7BackUP.htm

[Sparky[_2_]]

"Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
...
>
> "Sparky" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Bigguy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Walter R. wrote:
>>>> I have been using Win XP in conjunction with Acronis Home Image.
>>>> Acronis creates complete drive images that can be restored in the
>>>> future.
>>>>
>>>> Will the new backup facility built into Win 7 make Acronis redundant?
>>>> Can Win 7 actually create storable and retrievable disk images of my C
>>>> drive, that will restore my system at a later date ?
>>>>
>>>> That would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any input
>>>>
>>> Yes it works.
>>>
>>> I used it when I replaced/upgraded the HDD in my Laptop.
>>>
>>> Win 7 backup to external USD HDD image.
>>>
>>> In with new HDD, boot from restore CD.
>>>
>>> Image copied back to new HDD - all present and fully working, just like
>>> with Acronis.
>>>
>>> Approx 45min to restore 22GB image.
>>>
>>> Happy me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Guy
>>
>> Great Discussion , I was just wondering about all this myself.
>> It looks like the image to external works , does it provide an option for
>> creating a partition for the images ?
>> If not , is it possible to save the image to an existing partition ?
>> Thanks
>
> There's no option for creating partitions, it's just a basic imaging
> facility.
> Here's the operation from start to finish:
> http://www.admin1.myzen.co.uk/Win7BackUP.htm
>
>
>
>Many thanks ! Looking forward to trying it out in the near future...

[Anthony Buckland]

"Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
...
>
> "Anthony Buckland" > wrote in message
> ...
> ...
>> I'm not clear whether you actually applied the restore procedure
>> and successfully restored your image. Did you, if so did your system
>> function properly after restoring, and (again if so) how long did the
>> restore take (in this case, knowing your processor and R/W speeds
>> would help). Thanks, from a long-time Acronis user who expects
>> sooner or later to face this choice.
>>
>
> I created a system image with Win7 some weeks ago.
> I created a repair disk at the same time.
> I booted from the repair disk about an hour ago and restored
> the image I had created some weeks ago.
> When the restore was finished the system rebooted.
> I then had a system that was some weeks old but fully functional.
> The image was 22 G/B and took 25 minutes to complete.
>
> To bring my system back to today's state I booted my BartPE disk
> and restored from my DriveImage XML (freeware) backup which I
> prefer as I have used that system for years and it works every time.


Thanks, just what I wanted to know.

[Anthony Buckland]

"Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
...
>
> "Christian Barmala" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
...
>>> I booted from the repair disk about an hour ago and restored the image I
>>> had created some weeks ago. When the restore was finished the system
>>> rebooted. I then had a system that was some weeks old but fully
>>> functional.
>>
>> Did you have to reactivate Windows 7 or did it recognize that the
>> hardware is still the same after restore?
>>
>> Christian
>
> No, I didn't have to reactivate Windows 7.

That's the thing about images, the entire contents of the
partition are restored, down to the last bit. If W7 knew
about anything when the image was made, it will still
know exactly the same after restoration. The only
things I've ever had to deal with that represent a change
is that such things as the antivirus database are suddenly
out of date, and changes to data have been lost.