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PJF
November 20th 09, 07:21 PM
I have a large collection of OE 6 messages that I'd like to import into a
new PC running Windows 7 Ultimate. Does anyone know of an easy way to do
this?

Thanks and regards,

PJF

Trev[_3_]
November 20th 09, 08:01 PM
"PJF" > wrote in message
m...
> I have a large collection of OE 6 messages that I'd like to import into a
> new PC running Windows 7 Ultimate. Does anyone know of an easy way to do
> this?
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> PJF
>
>

Down load Windows Live Mail Which is the current equivalent of OE. And then
it will be File > Import >Messages> OE 6 Just make sure you have saved them
somewhere save

Ken Blake, MVP
November 20th 09, 08:25 PM
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:21:07 -0500, "PJF" > wrote:

> I have a large collection of OE 6 messages that I'd like to import into a
> new PC running Windows 7 Ultimate. Does anyone know of an easy way to do
> this?


The issue here is not that the new PC runs Windows 7 Ultimate. The
issue is what e-mail client (and/or newsreader, if that's what you
mean) you are running on the new PC.

So tell us what e-mail client and/or newsreader you are running and
that you want to import messages to. After you do that, I or someone
else here can very likely help you.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

PJF
November 20th 09, 08:29 PM
Trev,

Sounds like a plan! Thanks so much.

PJF


"Trev" > wrote in message
...
>
> "PJF" > wrote in message
> m...
> > I have a large collection of OE 6 messages that I'd like to import into
a
> > new PC running Windows 7 Ultimate. Does anyone know of an easy way to
do
> > this?
> >
> > Thanks and regards,
> >
> > PJF
> >
> >
>
> Down load Windows Live Mail Which is the current equivalent of OE. And
then
> it will be File > Import >Messages> OE 6 Just make sure you have saved
them
> somewhere save
>

PJF
November 20th 09, 09:37 PM
Ken,

Many thanks for your reply. I won't take delivery of the new PC until early
December. I agree "Ultimate" is irrelevant. But I understand there is no
mail client (or Internet browser (?)) in any Win 7 version; that these must
be added by the user. I just want to be sure I can find a relatively
painless way to add a mail client/newsreader (as well as a browser) to my
new PC. Trev suggested (see his reply above) D/L'ing Windows Live Mail and
importing the OE6 files to that program from my old PC.

Any further thoughts would be most welcomed.

PJF


"Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:21:07 -0500, "PJF" > wrote:
>
> > I have a large collection of OE 6 messages that I'd like to import into
a
> > new PC running Windows 7 Ultimate. Does anyone know of an easy way to
do
> > this?
>
>
> The issue here is not that the new PC runs Windows 7 Ultimate. The
> issue is what e-mail client (and/or newsreader, if that's what you
> mean) you are running on the new PC.
>
> So tell us what e-mail client and/or newsreader you are running and
> that you want to import messages to. After you do that, I or someone
> else here can very likely help you.
>
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken Blake, MVP
November 20th 09, 10:26 PM
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:37:31 -0500, "PJF" > wrote:

> Ken,
>
> Many thanks for your reply.



You're welcome. Glad to help.


> I won't take delivery of the new PC until early
> December. I agree "Ultimate" is irrelevant. But I understand there is no
> mail client (or Internet browser (?)) in any Win 7 version; that these must
> be added by the user.


That's correct regarding and e-mail client, but it is *not* correct
regarding a browser. Internet Explorer still comes with it.


> I just want to be sure I can find a relatively
> painless way to add a mail client/newsreader



There should be no issue with pain. There are many choices of e-mail
clients and newsreaders, and even combination e-mail clients and
newsreaders. Many of the choices are free, others need to be bought.


> (as well as a browser)


Not necessary.


> to my
> new PC. Trev suggested (see his reply above) D/L'ing Windows Live Mail and
> importing the OE6 files to that program from my old PC.


Windows Live Mail is certainly a choice, and it's a choice that many
people like. But not everybody prefers the same things. I, for
example, prefer Microsoft Outlook 2007 for e-mail, and Forte Agent 6.0
for a newsreader.

My recommendation is that you ignore both what Trev likes best and
what I do. You should decide for yourself which program (or programs)
that *you* like best. What works best for you depends on what you do
and how you use the programs. To mention a single example, one of the
difference between newsreaders is whether they handle binary
newsgroups at all, or if so how well. I don't do binary newsgroups at
all, so that doesn't matter to me, but if you do, it would be an
important feature to you. I don't know whether Windows Live Mail does
binary newsgroups well, but I do know that prior versions of outlook
express did not do them well.

So my recommendation to you is that you start out by downloading and
trying several of the freeware and shareware products available, and
determining for yourself how well they work for you. And you can do
those trials now, under whatever version of Windows you are currently
using. You don't have to wait until you get your new Windows7 PC.

And regarding importing old messages, as I intimated in my previous
message, almost all of these products will let you do that easily.


> Any further thoughts would be most welcomed.
>
> PJF
>
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:21:07 -0500, "PJF" > wrote:
> >
> > > I have a large collection of OE 6 messages that I'd like to import into
> a
> > > new PC running Windows 7 Ultimate. Does anyone know of an easy way to
> do
> > > this?
> >
> >
> > The issue here is not that the new PC runs Windows 7 Ultimate. The
> > issue is what e-mail client (and/or newsreader, if that's what you
> > mean) you are running on the new PC.
> >
> > So tell us what e-mail client and/or newsreader you are running and
> > that you want to import messages to. After you do that, I or someone
> > else here can very likely help you.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Trev[_3_]
November 20th 09, 11:33 PM
"Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:37:31 -0500, "PJF" > wrote:
>
>> Ken,
>>
>> Many thanks for your reply.
>
>
>
> You're welcome. Glad to help.
>
>
>> I won't take delivery of the new PC until early
>> December. I agree "Ultimate" is irrelevant. But I understand there is no
>> mail client (or Internet browser (?)) in any Win 7 version; that these
>> must
>> be added by the user.
>
>
> That's correct regarding and e-mail client, but it is *not* correct
> regarding a browser. Internet Explorer still comes with it.
>
>
>> I just want to be sure I can find a relatively
>> painless way to add a mail client/newsreader
>
>
>
> There should be no issue with pain. There are many choices of e-mail
> clients and newsreaders, and even combination e-mail clients and
> newsreaders. Many of the choices are free, others need to be bought.
>
>
>> (as well as a browser)
>
>
> Not necessary.
>
>
>> to my
>> new PC. Trev suggested (see his reply above) D/L'ing Windows Live Mail
>> and
>> importing the OE6 files to that program from my old PC.
>
>
> Windows Live Mail is certainly a choice, and it's a choice that many
> people like. But not everybody prefers the same things. I, for
> example, prefer Microsoft Outlook 2007 for e-mail, and Forte Agent 6.0
> for a newsreader.
>
> My recommendation is that you ignore both what Trev likes best and
> what I do. You should decide for yourself which program (or programs)
> that *you* like best. What works best for you depends on what you do
> and how you use the programs. To mention a single example, one of the
> difference between newsreaders is whether they handle binary
> newsgroups at all, or if so how well. I don't do binary newsgroups at
> all, so that doesn't matter to me, but if you do, it would be an
> important feature to you. I don't know whether Windows Live Mail does
> binary newsgroups well, but I do know that prior versions of outlook
> express did not do them well.


Trev likes Outlook too But is sticking with Outlook 2003. But uses Live mail
for Newsgroups LOl


>
> So my recommendation to you is that you start out by downloading and
> trying several of the freeware and shareware products available, and
> determining for yourself how well they work for you. And you can do
> those trials now, under whatever version of Windows you are currently
> using. You don't have to wait until you get your new Windows7 PC.
>
> And regarding importing old messages, as I intimated in my previous
> message, almost all of these products will let you do that easily.
>
>
>> Any further thoughts would be most welcomed.
>>
>> PJF
>>
>>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:21:07 -0500, "PJF" > wrote:
>> >
>> > > I have a large collection of OE 6 messages that I'd like to import
>> > > into
>> a
>> > > new PC running Windows 7 Ultimate. Does anyone know of an easy way
>> > > to
>> do
>> > > this?
>> >
>> >
>> > The issue here is not that the new PC runs Windows 7 Ultimate. The
>> > issue is what e-mail client (and/or newsreader, if that's what you
>> > mean) you are running on the new PC.
>> >
>> > So tell us what e-mail client and/or newsreader you are running and
>> > that you want to import messages to. After you do that, I or someone
>> > else here can very likely help you.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
>> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>>
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

SC Tom[_3_]
November 20th 09, 11:41 PM
I agree with Ken that you should try a few email and/or newsreaders and make
up your own mind. But if you liked OE6 in XP or Windows Mail in Vista, I
think you'll like and be very comfortable with Live Mail. It is almost the
same interface as its 2 predecessors and, for me at least, has a very low
learning curve. I exported all my messages and my address book from OE6 and
imported them right into Live Mail. When I opened it on my Win7 Home Premium
notebook after importing, all my contacts and messages were there, just like
it was in OE.
Of course, that's just my opinion, and yours and others' may vary.

SC Tom


"PJF" > wrote in message
...
> Ken,
>
> Many thanks for your reply. I won't take delivery of the new PC until
> early
> December. I agree "Ultimate" is irrelevant. But I understand there is no
> mail client (or Internet browser (?)) in any Win 7 version; that these
> must
> be added by the user. I just want to be sure I can find a relatively
> painless way to add a mail client/newsreader (as well as a browser) to my
> new PC. Trev suggested (see his reply above) D/L'ing Windows Live Mail and
> importing the OE6 files to that program from my old PC.
>
> Any further thoughts would be most welcomed.
>
> PJF
>
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:21:07 -0500, "PJF" > wrote:
>>
>> > I have a large collection of OE 6 messages that I'd like to import into
> a
>> > new PC running Windows 7 Ultimate. Does anyone know of an easy way to
> do
>> > this?
>>
>>
>> The issue here is not that the new PC runs Windows 7 Ultimate. The
>> issue is what e-mail client (and/or newsreader, if that's what you
>> mean) you are running on the new PC.
>>
>> So tell us what e-mail client and/or newsreader you are running and
>> that you want to import messages to. After you do that, I or someone
>> else here can very likely help you.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
>

PJF
November 21st 09, 12:15 AM
Thanks, Ken for the follow up. I'm encouraged by the suggestions and
thoughtful advice you and the other responders have offered.

Kindest regards and happy Thanksgiving!

PJF


"Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:37:31 -0500, "PJF" > wrote:
>
> > Ken,
> >
> > Many thanks for your reply.
>
>
>
> You're welcome. Glad to help.
>
>
> > I won't take delivery of the new PC until early
> > December. I agree "Ultimate" is irrelevant. But I understand there is
no
> > mail client (or Internet browser (?)) in any Win 7 version; that these
must
> > be added by the user.
>
>
> That's correct regarding and e-mail client, but it is *not* correct
> regarding a browser. Internet Explorer still comes with it.
>
>
> > I just want to be sure I can find a relatively
> > painless way to add a mail client/newsreader
>
>
>
> There should be no issue with pain. There are many choices of e-mail
> clients and newsreaders, and even combination e-mail clients and
> newsreaders. Many of the choices are free, others need to be bought.
>
>
> > (as well as a browser)
>
>
> Not necessary.
>
>
> > to my
> > new PC. Trev suggested (see his reply above) D/L'ing Windows Live Mail
and
> > importing the OE6 files to that program from my old PC.
>
>
> Windows Live Mail is certainly a choice, and it's a choice that many
> people like. But not everybody prefers the same things. I, for
> example, prefer Microsoft Outlook 2007 for e-mail, and Forte Agent 6.0
> for a newsreader.
>
> My recommendation is that you ignore both what Trev likes best and
> what I do. You should decide for yourself which program (or programs)
> that *you* like best. What works best for you depends on what you do
> and how you use the programs. To mention a single example, one of the
> difference between newsreaders is whether they handle binary
> newsgroups at all, or if so how well. I don't do binary newsgroups at
> all, so that doesn't matter to me, but if you do, it would be an
> important feature to you. I don't know whether Windows Live Mail does
> binary newsgroups well, but I do know that prior versions of outlook
> express did not do them well.
>
> So my recommendation to you is that you start out by downloading and
> trying several of the freeware and shareware products available, and
> determining for yourself how well they work for you. And you can do
> those trials now, under whatever version of Windows you are currently
> using. You don't have to wait until you get your new Windows7 PC.
>
> And regarding importing old messages, as I intimated in my previous
> message, almost all of these products will let you do that easily.
>
>
> > Any further thoughts would be most welcomed.
> >
> > PJF
> >
> >
> > "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:21:07 -0500, "PJF" > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have a large collection of OE 6 messages that I'd like to import
into
> > a
> > > > new PC running Windows 7 Ultimate. Does anyone know of an easy way
to
> > do
> > > > this?
> > >
> > >
> > > The issue here is not that the new PC runs Windows 7 Ultimate. The
> > > issue is what e-mail client (and/or newsreader, if that's what you
> > > mean) you are running on the new PC.
> > >
> > > So tell us what e-mail client and/or newsreader you are running and
> > > that you want to import messages to. After you do that, I or someone
> > > else here can very likely help you.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

PJF
November 21st 09, 12:21 AM
Thanks, Tom for your input. While there may be more capable mail clients
available, Live Mail seems to be exactly what I need. When I get my new PC,
I think my best course is to D/L and install Live Mail, especially in view
of your narrative of how well it worked for you.

Regards,

PJF


"SC Tom" > wrote in message
...
> I agree with Ken that you should try a few email and/or newsreaders and
make
> up your own mind. But if you liked OE6 in XP or Windows Mail in Vista, I
> think you'll like and be very comfortable with Live Mail. It is almost the
> same interface as its 2 predecessors and, for me at least, has a very low
> learning curve. I exported all my messages and my address book from OE6
and
> imported them right into Live Mail. When I opened it on my Win7 Home
Premium
> notebook after importing, all my contacts and messages were there, just
like
> it was in OE.
> Of course, that's just my opinion, and yours and others' may vary.
>
> SC Tom
>
>
> "PJF" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ken,
> >
> > Many thanks for your reply. I won't take delivery of the new PC until
> > early
> > December. I agree "Ultimate" is irrelevant. But I understand there is
no
> > mail client (or Internet browser (?)) in any Win 7 version; that these
> > must
> > be added by the user. I just want to be sure I can find a relatively
> > painless way to add a mail client/newsreader (as well as a browser) to
my
> > new PC. Trev suggested (see his reply above) D/L'ing Windows Live Mail
and
> > importing the OE6 files to that program from my old PC.
> >
> > Any further thoughts would be most welcomed.
> >
> > PJF
> >
> >
> > "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:21:07 -0500, "PJF" > wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have a large collection of OE 6 messages that I'd like to import
into
> > a
> >> > new PC running Windows 7 Ultimate. Does anyone know of an easy way
to
> > do
> >> > this?
> >>
> >>
> >> The issue here is not that the new PC runs Windows 7 Ultimate. The
> >> issue is what e-mail client (and/or newsreader, if that's what you
> >> mean) you are running on the new PC.
> >>
> >> So tell us what e-mail client and/or newsreader you are running and
> >> that you want to import messages to. After you do that, I or someone
> >> else here can very likely help you.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >
> >
>

Ken Blake, MVP
November 21st 09, 01:22 AM
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:33:17 -0000, "Trev"
> wrote:

>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:37:31 -0500, "PJF" > wrote:
> >
> >> Ken,
> >>
> >> Many thanks for your reply.
> >
> >
> >
> > You're welcome. Glad to help.
> >
> >
> >> I won't take delivery of the new PC until early
> >> December. I agree "Ultimate" is irrelevant. But I understand there is no
> >> mail client (or Internet browser (?)) in any Win 7 version; that these
> >> must
> >> be added by the user.
> >
> >
> > That's correct regarding and e-mail client, but it is *not* correct
> > regarding a browser. Internet Explorer still comes with it.
> >
> >
> >> I just want to be sure I can find a relatively
> >> painless way to add a mail client/newsreader
> >
> >
> >
> > There should be no issue with pain. There are many choices of e-mail
> > clients and newsreaders, and even combination e-mail clients and
> > newsreaders. Many of the choices are free, others need to be bought.
> >
> >
> >> (as well as a browser)
> >
> >
> > Not necessary.
> >
> >
> >> to my
> >> new PC. Trev suggested (see his reply above) D/L'ing Windows Live Mail
> >> and
> >> importing the OE6 files to that program from my old PC.
> >
> >
> > Windows Live Mail is certainly a choice, and it's a choice that many
> > people like. But not everybody prefers the same things. I, for
> > example, prefer Microsoft Outlook 2007 for e-mail, and Forte Agent 6.0
> > for a newsreader.
> >
> > My recommendation is that you ignore both what Trev likes best and
> > what I do. You should decide for yourself which program (or programs)
> > that *you* like best. What works best for you depends on what you do
> > and how you use the programs. To mention a single example, one of the
> > difference between newsreaders is whether they handle binary
> > newsgroups at all, or if so how well. I don't do binary newsgroups at
> > all, so that doesn't matter to me, but if you do, it would be an
> > important feature to you. I don't know whether Windows Live Mail does
> > binary newsgroups well, but I do know that prior versions of outlook
> > express did not do them well.
>
>
> Trev likes Outlook too But is sticking with Outlook 2003. But uses Live mail
> for Newsgroups LOl


That's fine. I wasn't complaining about your recommendation, just
advising PJF to make his own decisions/

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken Blake, MVP
November 21st 09, 01:22 AM
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:15:03 -0500, "PJF" > wrote:

> Thanks, Ken for the follow up. I'm encouraged by the suggestions and
> thoughtful advice you and the other responders have offered.


You're welcome. Glad to help.


> Kindest regards and happy Thanksgiving!


Same to you.




> "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:37:31 -0500, "PJF" > wrote:
> >
> > > Ken,
> > >
> > > Many thanks for your reply.
> >
> >
> >
> > You're welcome. Glad to help.
> >
> >
> > > I won't take delivery of the new PC until early
> > > December. I agree "Ultimate" is irrelevant. But I understand there is
> no
> > > mail client (or Internet browser (?)) in any Win 7 version; that these
> must
> > > be added by the user.
> >
> >
> > That's correct regarding and e-mail client, but it is *not* correct
> > regarding a browser. Internet Explorer still comes with it.
> >
> >
> > > I just want to be sure I can find a relatively
> > > painless way to add a mail client/newsreader
> >
> >
> >
> > There should be no issue with pain. There are many choices of e-mail
> > clients and newsreaders, and even combination e-mail clients and
> > newsreaders. Many of the choices are free, others need to be bought.
> >
> >
> > > (as well as a browser)
> >
> >
> > Not necessary.
> >
> >
> > > to my
> > > new PC. Trev suggested (see his reply above) D/L'ing Windows Live Mail
> and
> > > importing the OE6 files to that program from my old PC.
> >
> >
> > Windows Live Mail is certainly a choice, and it's a choice that many
> > people like. But not everybody prefers the same things. I, for
> > example, prefer Microsoft Outlook 2007 for e-mail, and Forte Agent 6.0
> > for a newsreader.
> >
> > My recommendation is that you ignore both what Trev likes best and
> > what I do. You should decide for yourself which program (or programs)
> > that *you* like best. What works best for you depends on what you do
> > and how you use the programs. To mention a single example, one of the
> > difference between newsreaders is whether they handle binary
> > newsgroups at all, or if so how well. I don't do binary newsgroups at
> > all, so that doesn't matter to me, but if you do, it would be an
> > important feature to you. I don't know whether Windows Live Mail does
> > binary newsgroups well, but I do know that prior versions of outlook
> > express did not do them well.
> >
> > So my recommendation to you is that you start out by downloading and
> > trying several of the freeware and shareware products available, and
> > determining for yourself how well they work for you. And you can do
> > those trials now, under whatever version of Windows you are currently
> > using. You don't have to wait until you get your new Windows7 PC.
> >
> > And regarding importing old messages, as I intimated in my previous
> > message, almost all of these products will let you do that easily.
> >
> >
> > > Any further thoughts would be most welcomed.
> > >
> > > PJF
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:21:07 -0500, "PJF" > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have a large collection of OE 6 messages that I'd like to import
> into
> > > a
> > > > > new PC running Windows 7 Ultimate. Does anyone know of an easy way
> to
> > > do
> > > > > this?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The issue here is not that the new PC runs Windows 7 Ultimate. The
> > > > issue is what e-mail client (and/or newsreader, if that's what you
> > > > mean) you are running on the new PC.
> > > >
> > > > So tell us what e-mail client and/or newsreader you are running and
> > > > that you want to import messages to. After you do that, I or someone
> > > > else here can very likely help you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> > > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken Blake, MVP
November 21st 09, 01:24 AM
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:41:08 -0500, "SC Tom" > wrote:

> I agree with Ken that you should try a few email and/or newsreaders and make
> up your own mind. But if you liked OE6 in XP or Windows Mail in Vista, I
> think you'll like and be very comfortable with Live Mail. It is almost the
> same interface as its 2 predecessors and, for me at least, has a very low
> learning curve. I exported all my messages and my address book from OE6 and
> imported them right into Live Mail. When I opened it on my Win7 Home Premium
> notebook after importing, all my contacts and messages were there, just like
> it was in OE.
> Of course, that's just my opinion, and yours and others' may vary.



I don't have any real disagreement with what you say. I think he
should try WLM, but he should also try others before making up his
mind. I've tried WLM, and also thought it was OK, but I don't like it
as much as I like others.



> "PJF" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ken,
> >
> > Many thanks for your reply. I won't take delivery of the new PC until
> > early
> > December. I agree "Ultimate" is irrelevant. But I understand there is no
> > mail client (or Internet browser (?)) in any Win 7 version; that these
> > must
> > be added by the user. I just want to be sure I can find a relatively
> > painless way to add a mail client/newsreader (as well as a browser) to my
> > new PC. Trev suggested (see his reply above) D/L'ing Windows Live Mail and
> > importing the OE6 files to that program from my old PC.
> >
> > Any further thoughts would be most welcomed.
> >
> > PJF
> >
> >
> > "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:21:07 -0500, "PJF" > wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have a large collection of OE 6 messages that I'd like to import into
> > a
> >> > new PC running Windows 7 Ultimate. Does anyone know of an easy way to
> > do
> >> > this?
> >>
> >>
> >> The issue here is not that the new PC runs Windows 7 Ultimate. The
> >> issue is what e-mail client (and/or newsreader, if that's what you
> >> mean) you are running on the new PC.
> >>
> >> So tell us what e-mail client and/or newsreader you are running and
> >> that you want to import messages to. After you do that, I or someone
> >> else here can very likely help you.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >
> >

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

DanS[_3_]
November 21st 09, 03:13 PM
> I don't have any real disagreement with what you say. I think he
> should try WLM, but he should also try others before making up his
> mind. I've tried WLM, and also thought it was OK, but I don't like it
> as much as I like others.

Does WLM still keep all messages in one giant database like file, including
attachments and such ? Is there still a corruption problem ? And a 2Gig
limit ?

Those are what turned me away from OE a long, long time ago.

C
November 21st 09, 03:40 PM
DanS wrote:
>> I don't have any real disagreement with what you say. I think he
>> should try WLM, but he should also try others before making up his
>> mind. I've tried WLM, and also thought it was OK, but I don't like it
>> as much as I like others.
>
> Does WLM still keep all messages in one giant database like file, including
> attachments and such ? Is there still a corruption problem ? And a 2Gig
> limit ?
>
> Those are what turned me away from OE a long, long time ago.

You're confusing Outlook with OE. OE has .dbx files for each folder.
Outlook has one .pst file for everything. OE has a 100MB limit per .dbx
file and Outlook 03 and 07 are only limited in size by your hard drive.

C

DanS[_3_]
November 22nd 09, 12:56 AM
C > wrote in :

> DanS wrote:
>>> I don't have any real disagreement with what you say. I think he
>>> should try WLM, but he should also try others before making up his
>>> mind. I've tried WLM, and also thought it was OK, but I don't like
>>> it as much as I like others.
>>
>> Does WLM still keep all messages in one giant database like file,
>> including attachments and such ? Is there still a corruption problem
>> ? And a 2Gig limit ?
>>
>> Those are what turned me away from OE a long, long time ago.
>
> You're confusing Outlook with OE. OE has .dbx files for each folder.
> Outlook has one .pst file for everything. OE has a 100MB limit per
> .dbx file and Outlook 03 and 07 are only limited in size by your hard
> drive.

Thanks. And WLM ?

C
November 22nd 09, 01:10 AM
DanS wrote:
> C > wrote in :
>
>> DanS wrote:
>>>> I don't have any real disagreement with what you say. I think he
>>>> should try WLM, but he should also try others before making up his
>>>> mind. I've tried WLM, and also thought it was OK, but I don't like
>>>> it as much as I like others.
>>> Does WLM still keep all messages in one giant database like file,
>>> including attachments and such ? Is there still a corruption problem
>>> ? And a 2Gig limit ?
>>>
>>> Those are what turned me away from OE a long, long time ago.
>> You're confusing Outlook with OE. OE has .dbx files for each folder.
>> Outlook has one .pst file for everything. OE has a 100MB limit per
>> .dbx file and Outlook 03 and 07 are only limited in size by your hard
>> drive.
>
> Thanks. And WLM ?

No idea. I ditched Outlook Express years ago and use T-Bird and Outlook
03 now. I looked at Windows Live Mail once but didn't look into its
innards or research it.

C

R. C. White
November 23rd 09, 05:34 AM
Hi, Dan.

> Does WLM still keep all messages in one giant database like file,
> including
> attachments and such ? Is there still a corruption problem ?

OE kept all messages in a few .dbx files, which it called Folders. If you
got 1000 emails from your Mom of 1 KB each, you might have a Mom.dbx folder
of about 1 MB holding al those messages. If one byte in one of those
messages was corrupted, you probably would lose all 1,000 of them. In
addition to your probably several folders, there was on called Folders.dbx
which acted as an Index for all the others. As I'm sure you know, OE was an
integral part of Windows XP and prior.

Windows Mail (note the TWO-word name) is an integral part of Vista (and
won't even run on WinXP, or on Win7 without some unsupported tweaking). It
changed the storage system to keep each of those 1,000 emails from Mom in a
separate .eml file; since the cluster size is 4 GB on an NTFS drive, those
emails would take up 4 MB of space. But a single bad message would lose
only that message, not the whole 1,000.

Windows Live Mail (note the THREE-word name) is not a part of any Windows
version, but it will run on WinXP, Vista and Win7. You can download it from
http://download.live.com, along with any of the other Windows Live
Essentials that you might want, such as the Calendar or Contacts. It uses
almost the same file system as WM, so corruption in a single message does
not cost us the whole Message Store.

> And a 2Gig
> limit ?

I don't know anything about a 2 GB limit in any of these applications.
Perhaps you are thinking of the file size or volume size limits that were
imposed by earlier file systems, such as FAT(16).

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"DanS" > wrote in message
. 97.131...
>> I don't have any real disagreement with what you say. I think he
>> should try WLM, but he should also try others before making up his
>> mind. I've tried WLM, and also thought it was OK, but I don't like it
>> as much as I like others.
>
> Does WLM still keep all messages in one giant database like file,
> including
> attachments and such ? Is there still a corruption problem ? And a 2Gig
> limit ?
>
> Those are what turned me away from OE a long, long time ago.

DanS[_3_]
November 23rd 09, 11:00 PM
"R. C. White" > wrote in
ecom:

> Hi, Dan.
>
>> Does WLM still keep all messages in one giant database like file,
>> including
>> attachments and such ? Is there still a corruption problem ?
>
> OE kept all messages in a few .dbx files, which it called Folders. If
> you got 1000 emails from your Mom of 1 KB each, you might have a
> Mom.dbx folder of about 1 MB holding al those messages. If one byte
> in one of those messages was corrupted, you probably would lose all
> 1,000 of them. In addition to your probably several folders, there
> was on called Folders.dbx which acted as an Index for all the others.
> As I'm sure you know, OE was an integral part of Windows XP and prior.
>
> Windows Mail (note the TWO-word name) is an integral part of Vista
> (and won't even run on WinXP, or on Win7 without some unsupported
> tweaking). It changed the storage system to keep each of those 1,000
> emails from Mom in a separate .eml file; since the cluster size is 4
> GB on an NTFS drive, those emails would take up 4 MB of space. But a
> single bad message would lose only that message, not the whole 1,000.
>
> Windows Live Mail (note the THREE-word name) is not a part of any
> Windows version, but it will run on WinXP, Vista and Win7. You can
> download it from http://download.live.com, along with any of the other
> Windows Live Essentials that you might want, such as the Calendar or
> Contacts. It uses almost the same file system as WM, so corruption in
> a single message does not cost us the whole Message Store.
>
>> And a 2Gig
>> limit ?
>
> I don't know anything about a 2 GB limit in any of these applications.
> Perhaps you are thinking of the file size or volume size limits that
> were imposed by earlier file systems, such as FAT(16).
>
> RC

Wow....that's a lot of info....and *does* answer the question !!!

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