UAC

[Worn Out Retread]

I am getting a new computer for my wife and it will be running Windows 7 64
bit.

I want to set it up so that she can turn it on and it will boot right to the
desktop and in addition I don't want her to get UAC messages when she uses
the installed programs on her computer such as Internet Explorer, Office and
her graphics programs.

Any suggestions on how to do this?

Thank you

--
Ron P

Quick questions rarely have quick answers

[Gordon]

"Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message
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> I am getting a new computer for my wife and it will be running Windows 7
> 64 bit.
>
> I want to set it up so that she can turn it on and it will boot right to
> the desktop

You've thought about the security implications of this?

> and in addition I don't want her to get UAC messages when she uses the
> installed programs on her computer such as Internet Explorer, Office and
> her graphics programs.
>

What makes you think she will?

[Bob Hatch]

Gordon wrote:
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> "Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I am getting a new computer for my wife and it will be running Windows
>> 7 64 bit.
>>
>> I want to set it up so that she can turn it on and it will boot right
>> to the desktop
>
> You've thought about the security implications of this?
>
>> and in addition I don't want her to get UAC messages when she uses the
>> installed programs on her computer such as Internet Explorer, Office
>> and her graphics programs.
>>
>
> What makes you think she will?

I thought the same things, but didn't ask. :-)

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[Dave-UK[_2_]]

"Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message ...
> I am getting a new computer for my wife and it will be running Windows 7 64
> bit.
>
> I want to set it up so that she can turn it on and it will boot right to the
> desktop and in addition I don't want her to get UAC messages when she uses
> the installed programs on her computer such as Internet Explorer, Office and
> her graphics programs.
>
> Any suggestions on how to do this?
>
> Thank you
>
> --
> Ron P
>
> Quick questions rarely have quick answers
>

Make sure there is only one account with no password and
adjust the UAC slider control to how you want it to perform.
,

[Gordon]

"Dave-UK" > wrote in message
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>
>
> Make sure there is only one account with no password and adjust the UAC
> slider control to how you want it to perform.

Eh? Using Office or IE should not cause ANY UAC pop-ups. Doesn't here in a
password-protected Standard user account.
Why would you advocate what you posted?

[Dave-UK[_2_]]

"Gordon" > wrote in message ...
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> "Dave-UK" > wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> Make sure there is only one account with no password and adjust the UAC
>> slider control to how you want it to perform.
>
> Eh? Using Office or IE should not cause ANY UAC pop-ups. Doesn't here in a
> password-protected Standard user account.
> Why would you advocate what you posted?
>

I gave the OP the answer to his question. As he now knows that
the UAC control has a user-friendly slider setting he can adjust
it to his liking.

[Worn Out Retread]

"Gordon" > wrote in message
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> "Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I am getting a new computer for my wife and it will be running Windows 7
>> 64 bit.
>>
>> I want to set it up so that she can turn it on and it will boot right to
>> the desktop
>
> You've thought about the security implications of this?

She is the only user other than myself and if someone steals the computer,
the password protection is easily bypassed by someone who knows how.
>
>> and in addition I don't want her to get UAC messages when she uses the
>> installed programs on her computer such as Internet Explorer, Office and
>> her graphics programs.
>>
>
> What makes you think she will?

Personal experience.

[Worn Out Retread]

"Dave-UK" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I am getting a new computer for my wife and it will be running Windows 7
>> 64 bit.
>>
>> I want to set it up so that she can turn it on and it will boot right to
>> the desktop and in addition I don't want her to get UAC messages when she
>> uses the installed programs on her computer such as Internet Explorer,
>> Office and her graphics programs.
>>
>> Any suggestions on how to do this?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> --
>> Ron P
>>
>> Quick questions rarely have quick answers
>
> Make sure there is only one account with no password and adjust the UAC
> slider control to how you want it to perform.

Thank you.

[Gordon]

"Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message
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> "Gordon" > wrote in message
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>> "Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I am getting a new computer for my wife and it will be running Windows 7
>>> 64 bit.
>>>
>>> I want to set it up so that she can turn it on and it will boot right to
>>> the desktop
>>
>> You've thought about the security implications of this?
>
> She is the only user other than myself and if someone steals the computer,
> the password protection is easily bypassed by someone who knows how.
>>
>>> and in addition I don't want her to get UAC messages when she uses the
>>> installed programs on her computer such as Internet Explorer, Office and
>>> her graphics programs.
>>>
>>
>> What makes you think she will?
>
> Personal experience.

Doesn't happen here. Didn't happen on Vista. The only time it might happen
is on an application that is not Vista or Win 7 compatible....

[Gordon]

"Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message
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> "Gordon" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I am getting a new computer for my wife and it will be running Windows 7
>>> 64 bit.
>>>
>>> I want to set it up so that she can turn it on and it will boot right to
>>> the desktop
>>
>> You've thought about the security implications of this?
>
> She is the only user other than myself and if someone steals the computer,
> the password protection is easily bypassed by someone who knows how.
>>

So you have no visitors who might, in an idle moment start looking? You have
NO personal and sensitive data on the machine?

[Alex Clayton]

"Dave-UK" > wrote in message
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>
> "Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I am getting a new computer for my wife and it will be running Windows 7
>> 64 bit.
>>
>> I want to set it up so that she can turn it on and it will boot right to
>> the desktop and in addition I don't want her to get UAC messages when she
>> uses the installed programs on her computer such as Internet Explorer,
>> Office and her graphics programs.
>>
>> Any suggestions on how to do this?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> --
>> Ron P
>>
>> Quick questions rarely have quick answers
>
> Make sure there is only one account with no password and adjust the UAC
> slider control to how you want it to perform.
> ,
>
>
>
>
>

Where is this control? I only have one user on this new machine, me, and
there is no password. I would like to have the damn UAC quit popping up
every time I try to do something. It was doing it when I load stuff
directly from MS.

[Gordon]

"Alex Clayton" > wrote in message
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Well it doesn't pop up here "everytime" I try to "do something" and I run a
Standard User account. What might you be trying to do?

[Alex Clayton]

"Gordon" > wrote in message
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> "Alex Clayton" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> Well it doesn't pop up here "everytime" I try to "do something" and I run
> a Standard User account. What might you be trying to do?

When I put my MS office 07, when I put the MS security pack, today when I
loaded Live mail, when I loaded Fire fox it seems to constantly ask. I know
on the Vista machine I have I turned it off shortly after buying it, but
can't even remember now how I did it.
I had heard they had tweaked this feature in W7 because of so many people
doing what I did on my Vista, just turning it off.

[Alex Clayton]

"Alex Clayton" > wrote in message
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> "Gordon" > wrote in message
> ...
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>> "Alex Clayton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> Well it doesn't pop up here "everytime" I try to "do something" and I run
>> a Standard User account. What might you be trying to do?
>
> When I put my MS office 07, when I put the MS security pack, today when I
> loaded Live mail, when I loaded Fire fox it seems to constantly ask. I
> know on the Vista machine I have I turned it off shortly after buying it,
> but can't even remember now how I did it.
> I had heard they had tweaked this feature in W7 because of so many people
> doing what I did on my Vista, just turning it off.
>

I found the answer on my own here. I was reading mail and Firefox wanted to
add another add on. When UAC popped up I noticed it had a place to click to
see options and there was the slider. Dropped in down one notch, will see
what that does.

[Gordon]

"Alex Clayton" > wrote in message
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> "Gordon" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Alex Clayton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> Well it doesn't pop up here "everytime" I try to "do something" and I run
>> a Standard User account. What might you be trying to do?
>
> When I put my MS office 07, when I put the MS security pack, today when I
> loaded Live mail, when I loaded Fire fox it seems to constantly ask. I
> know on the Vista machine I have I turned it off shortly after buying it,
> but can't even remember now how I did it.
> I had heard they had tweaked this feature in W7 because of so many people
> doing what I did on my Vista, just turning it off.

Well I don't know what you are doing, or what might be strange about your
computer set-up - I use all those and the ONLY time I got UAC was on first
installing - that was that. I don't get it on running anything. At all.

[Dave-UK[_2_]]

"Alex Clayton" > wrote in message
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> "Alex Clayton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Gordon" > wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> "Alex Clayton" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Well it doesn't pop up here "everytime" I try to "do something" and I run a Standard User
>>> account. What might you be trying to do?
>>
>> When I put my MS office 07, when I put the MS security pack, today when I loaded Live mail, when
>> I loaded Fire fox it seems to constantly ask. I know on the Vista machine I have I turned it off
>> shortly after buying it, but can't even remember now how I did it.
>> I had heard they had tweaked this feature in W7 because of so many people doing what I did on my
>> Vista, just turning it off.
>>
>
> I found the answer on my own here. I was reading mail and Firefox wanted to add another add on.
> When UAC popped up I noticed it had a place to click to see options and there was the slider.
> Dropped in down one notch, will see what that does.

For when/if you want to adjust it again:
Control Panel > User Accounts and family Safety > User Accounts > Change UAC settings.

[Alex Clayton]

"Gordon" > wrote in message
...
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> "Alex Clayton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Gordon" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Alex Clayton" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Well it doesn't pop up here "everytime" I try to "do something" and I
>>> run a Standard User account. What might you be trying to do?
>>
>> When I put my MS office 07, when I put the MS security pack, today when I
>> loaded Live mail, when I loaded Fire fox it seems to constantly ask. I
>> know on the Vista machine I have I turned it off shortly after buying it,
>> but can't even remember now how I did it.
>> I had heard they had tweaked this feature in W7 because of so many people
>> doing what I did on my Vista, just turning it off.
>
> Well I don't know what you are doing, or what might be strange about your
> computer set-up - I use all those and the ONLY time I got UAC was on first
> installing - that was that. I don't get it on running anything. At all.
>

I found the slider. Firefox wanted to put an add on for Yahoo. When I said
yes the UAC popped up, and just before I said yes I noticed it had a line to
click on, that takes you to the slider. It was set in the middle, I dropped
it down one notch. Will see how it works now.
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Moderation is for monks."

[Lazarus Long]

[Alex Clayton]

"Dave-UK" > wrote in message
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> "Alex Clayton" > wrote in message
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>> "Alex Clayton" > wrote in message
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>>> "Gordon" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Alex Clayton" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Well it doesn't pop up here "everytime" I try to "do something" and I
>>>> run a Standard User account. What might you be trying to do?
>>>
>>> When I put my MS office 07, when I put the MS security pack, today when
>>> I loaded Live mail, when I loaded Fire fox it seems to constantly ask.
>>> I know on the Vista machine I have I turned it off shortly after buying
>>> it, but can't even remember now how I did it.
>>> I had heard they had tweaked this feature in W7 because of so many
>>> people doing what I did on my Vista, just turning it off.
>>>
>>
>> I found the answer on my own here. I was reading mail and Firefox wanted
>> to add another add on. When UAC popped up I noticed it had a place to
>> click to see options and there was the slider. Dropped in down one notch,
>> will see what that does.
>
> For when/if you want to adjust it again:
> Control Panel > User Accounts and family Safety > User Accounts > Change
> UAC settings.
>
>
>
>

Great, thanks. Now hopefully I can remember that if I want to change it
later. <G>
--
"Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
Moderation is for monks."

[Lazarus Long]

[Worn Out Retread]

"Gordon" > wrote in message
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> "Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Gordon" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I am getting a new computer for my wife and it will be running Windows
>>>> 7 64 bit.
>>>>
>>>> I want to set it up so that she can turn it on and it will boot right
>>>> to the desktop
>>>
>>> You've thought about the security implications of this?
>>
>> She is the only user other than myself and if someone steals the
>> computer, the password protection is easily bypassed by someone who knows
>> how.
>>>
>
> So you have no visitors who might, in an idle moment start looking? You
> have NO personal and sensitive data on the machine?

Logon passwords are easily passed by if you know how.

[Gordon]

"Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message
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> "Gordon" > wrote in message
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>> "Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message
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>>> "Gordon" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> I am getting a new computer for my wife and it will be running Windows
>>>>> 7 64 bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to set it up so that she can turn it on and it will boot right
>>>>> to the desktop
>>>>
>>>> You've thought about the security implications of this?
>>>
>>> She is the only user other than myself and if someone steals the
>>> computer, the password protection is easily bypassed by someone who
>>> knows how.
>>>>
>>
>> So you have no visitors who might, in an idle moment start looking? You
>> have NO personal and sensitive data on the machine?
>
> Logon passwords are easily passed by if you know how.

Absolutely. I'm not talking about someone who might be carrying a password
cracker on a USB stick but someone who might casually "have a look"...
Secondly it makes it slightly more difficult for malware to insert itself if
the user is a) not logged on as an Administrator and b) has a passworded
user account...

[Char Jackson]

On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:51:54 -0000, "Gordon" >
wrote:

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>"Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message
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>> "Gordon" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Worn Out Retread" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I am getting a new computer for my wife and it will be running Windows 7
>>>> 64 bit.
>>>>
>>>> I want to set it up so that she can turn it on and it will boot right to
>>>> the desktop
>>>
>>> You've thought about the security implications of this?
>>
>> She is the only user other than myself and if someone steals the computer,
>> the password protection is easily bypassed by someone who knows how.
>>>
>
>So you have no visitors who might, in an idle moment start looking? You have
>NO personal and sensitive data on the machine?

Who in the heck has visitors who idly wander over to a running
computer and start poking around? Might be time to evaluate what kind
of people you invite over.

[Char Jackson]

On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 20:10:21 -0000, "Gordon" >
wrote:

>
>"Alex Clayton" > wrote in message
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>> "Gordon" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Alex Clayton" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Well it doesn't pop up here "everytime" I try to "do something" and I run
>>> a Standard User account. What might you be trying to do?
>>
>> When I put my MS office 07, when I put the MS security pack, today when I
>> loaded Live mail, when I loaded Fire fox it seems to constantly ask. I
>> know on the Vista machine I have I turned it off shortly after buying it,
>> but can't even remember now how I did it.
>> I had heard they had tweaked this feature in W7 because of so many people
>> doing what I did on my Vista, just turning it off.
>
>Well I don't know what you are doing, or what might be strange about your
>computer set-up - I use all those and the ONLY time I got UAC was on first
>installing - that was that. I don't get it on running anything. At all.

If people want to turn off what they consider to be an annoying
behavior, it would be nice if you just let them instead of demanding
to know what they are doing or why they want to do it. I'm just
saying...

[Gordon]

Char Jackson wrote:

>
> If people want to turn off what they consider to be an annoying
> behavior, it would be nice if you just let them instead of demanding
> to know what they are doing or why they want to do it. I'm just
> saying...
>

Spoken like a true Windows sop......all the secure OSs like UNIX, Linux
etc have had this for YEARS - no-one complains about it because it's
there for a REASON - protection against rogue applications.
Now Windows has it, everyone complains! (And boots straight to the
desktop without any thought of security either).

As I said - MILLIONS of users don't GET UAC when running a Vista or Win
7 compatible application as a Standard User, therefore there is
something wrong with the OP's setup, which he ought to fix rather than
by-passing security...

[chrisv]

Gordon wrote:
> Char Jackson wrote:
>
>>
>> If people want to turn off what they consider to be an annoying
>> behavior, it would be nice if you just let them instead of demanding
>> to know what they are doing or why they want to do it. I'm just
>> saying...
>>
>
> Spoken like a true Windows sop......all the secure OSs like UNIX,
> Linux etc have had this for YEARS - no-one complains about it because
> it's there for a REASON - protection against rogue applications.
> Now Windows has it, everyone complains! (And boots straight to the
> desktop without any thought of security either).
>
> As I said - MILLIONS of users don't GET UAC when running a Vista or
> Win 7 compatible application as a Standard User, therefore there is
> something wrong with the OP's setup, which he ought to fix rather than
> by-passing security...

So, you allow anyone in your house to make changes to your system? And
linsux prevents that how?

[Gordon]

chrisv wrote:
> Gordon wrote:
>> Char Jackson wrote:
>>
>>> If people want to turn off what they consider to be an annoying
>>> behavior, it would be nice if you just let them instead of demanding
>>> to know what they are doing or why they want to do it. I'm just
>>> saying...
>>>
>> Spoken like a true Windows sop......all the secure OSs like UNIX,
>> Linux etc have had this for YEARS - no-one complains about it because
>> it's there for a REASON - protection against rogue applications.
>> Now Windows has it, everyone complains! (And boots straight to the
>> desktop without any thought of security either).
>>
>> As I said - MILLIONS of users don't GET UAC when running a Vista or
>> Win 7 compatible application as a Standard User, therefore there is
>> something wrong with the OP's setup, which he ought to fix rather than
>> by-passing security...
>
> So, you allow anyone in your house to make changes to your system? And
> linsux prevents that how?
>
>

By asking for a password before any System changes are authorised. Just
like UAC in fact...

[Lord Vetinari]

"Gordon" > wrote in message
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> chrisv wrote:
>> Gordon wrote:
>>> Char Jackson wrote:
>>>
>>>> If people want to turn off what they consider to be an annoying
>>>> behavior, it would be nice if you just let them instead of demanding
>>>> to know what they are doing or why they want to do it. I'm just
>>>> saying...
>>>>
>>> Spoken like a true Windows sop......all the secure OSs like UNIX,
>>> Linux etc have had this for YEARS - no-one complains about it because
>>> it's there for a REASON - protection against rogue applications.
>>> Now Windows has it, everyone complains! (And boots straight to the
>>> desktop without any thought of security either).
>>>
>>> As I said - MILLIONS of users don't GET UAC when running a Vista or
>>> Win 7 compatible application as a Standard User, therefore there is
>>> something wrong with the OP's setup, which he ought to fix rather than
>>> by-passing security...
>>
>> So, you allow anyone in your house to make changes to your system? And
>> linsux prevents that how?
>>
>>
>
> By asking for a password before any System changes are authorised. Just
> like UAC in fact...

Heheh It's a bit annoying, at times, but I prefer the security.