How do I run Windows 7 in XP mode?

[Peter Jason]

I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran well
in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can find)
for Windows7.

I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this going
on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
"compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this doesn't
work.

Peter

[KCB[_2_]]

"Peter Jason" > wrote in message
...
> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran well
> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can find)
> for Windows7.
>
> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this going
> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this doesn't
> work.
>
> Peter
>


http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/windows-xp-mode

[Peter Jason]

On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 19:15:45 -0500, "KCB" >
wrote:

>
>"Peter Jason" > wrote in message
...
>> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran well
>> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can find)
>> for Windows7.
>>
>> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this going
>> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
>> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this doesn't
>> work.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>
>
>http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/windows-xp-mode



Thanks, I tried all that with no luck. The printer has a few
emulations for other makers, but no luck there either.

We are investigating a way to feed the sprocketed fan-fold paper thru
a laserprinter paper. It seems to be working OK.

I guess the old Fujitsu will end up in the dumpster.

Sad.

[Alexander Arnakis]

On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:05:26 +1100, Peter Jason > wrote:

>I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran well
>in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can find)
>for Windows7.
>
>I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this going
>on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
>"compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this doesn't
>work.
>
I have exactly the same problem regarding my ALPS dry-ink printer and
my Nikon slide scanner: no Windows 7 drivers. The solution is actually
very simple. I have my old machine running Windows 98SE just for the
great old hardware. Why bother with virtual machines in Windows 7?
Just keep the real retro machines. What's the cost?

[choro]

On 14/02/2011 03:43, Alexander Arnakis wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:05:26 +1100, Peter > wrote:
>
>> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran well
>> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can find)
>> for Windows7.
>>
>> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this going
>> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
>> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this doesn't
>> work.
>>
> I have exactly the same problem regarding my ALPS dry-ink printer and
> my Nikon slide scanner: no Windows 7 drivers. The solution is actually
> very simple. I have my old machine running Windows 98SE just for the
> great old hardware. Why bother with virtual machines in Windows 7?
> Just keep the real retro machines. What's the cost?

A KVM box, Alex!

I've got my several machines hooked to the Keyboard, Mouse and Monitor
via a KVM box. A very simple and elegant solution.
--
choro
*****

[Oldster]

"Peter Jason" wrote in message
...

I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran well
in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can find)
for Windows7.

I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this going
on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
"compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this doesn't
work.

Peter

Try to set up "Virtualbox" from Oracle (Free Software). You can install
a copy of XP or some such within that environment and I have found that I
can use a Scanner for which there are no drivers for Windows 7 via this
setup!

Oldster

[Alexander Arnakis]

On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 04:43:48 +0000, choro > wrote:
>
>A KVM box, Alex!
>
>I've got my several machines hooked to the Keyboard, Mouse and Monitor
>via a KVM box. A very simple and elegant solution.

Yes, that would work.

I have several spare keyboards, mice, and monitors, so even a KVM
switch is unnecessary for me.

[choro]

On 15/02/2011 01:07, Alexander Arnakis wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 04:43:48 +0000, > wrote:
>>
>> A KVM box, Alex!
>>
>> I've got my several machines hooked to the Keyboard, Mouse and Monitor
>> via a KVM box. A very simple and elegant solution.
>
> Yes, that would work.
>
> I have several spare keyboards, mice, and monitors, so even a KVM
> switch is unnecessary for me.

Give the KVM a try, Alex. You'll never go back. You can just sit in
front of a large monitor and control everything from the keyboard with
keyboard shortcuts switching between different computers and while one
computer could be defragging in the background for example you might be
working on another computer. Using my KVM, I can switch between 4
different computers with hotkeys.

And if you like your music, I would recommend that you connect the sound
through a discreet stereo amplifier rather than through the KVM as
otherwise it will switch over the sound as well. Not very clever.

With my separate discreet sound connection I can go on listening to an
Edith Piaf CD as I am doing right now but if I want to watch a video I
can just press the Aux key and listen to a video on my main computer for
example. You can connect several computers to the stereo amp using the
various inputs at the back of the amp. In fact I'll admit to having two
amps and two sets of stereo speakers on the go. So I am never out of amp
inputs! (NO, don't get me wrong. I know I have two ears but I don't
listen to two sound sources at one and the same time!)

Beautiful and I have got full real hi-fi sound with massive speakers on
both sound systems. Nay, both systems are audiophile quality!

Heaven on earth. Inn of the Sixth Happiness!
--
choro
*****

[Alexander Arnakis]

On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 03:24:20 +0000, choro > wrote:
>
>Give the KVM a try, Alex. You'll never go back. You can just sit in
>front of a large monitor and control everything from the keyboard with
>keyboard shortcuts switching between different computers and while one
>computer could be defragging in the background for example you might be
>working on another computer. Using my KVM, I can switch between 4
>different computers with hotkeys.
>
This assumes that (a) all the computers are turned on, and (b) they're
all located in the same room, with all their associated peripherals. I
use my Windows 7 computer with its fast broadband connection for
streaming video, Web surfing, and multimedia applications. My old
Windows 98SE computer is in a completely different room and is used
for slide scanning, printing, and as a backup when my wife is using
the Win 7 computer. (They're networked together, but each has a
completely different set of peripherals.) The fact is, I rarely use
them both at the same time.

[alien]

On 14/02/2011 6:05, Peter Jason wrote:
> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran well
> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can find)
> for Windows7.
>
> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this going
> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this doesn't
> work.
>
> Peter
>
How about using virtual machine from microsoft, it's for free if you
using Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7 Enterprise.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx

Good luck
--
alien
~Work like you don't need the money.~
~Love like you've never been hurt.~
~Dance like nobody is looking.~

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

"alien" > wrote in message
...
> On 14/02/2011 6:05, Peter Jason wrote:
>> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran
>> well
>> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can
>> find)
>> for Windows7.
>>
>> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this
>> going
>> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
>> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this
>> doesn't
>> work.
>>
>> Peter
>>
> How about using virtual machine from microsoft, it's for free if you
> using Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7
> Enterprise.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx
>
> Good luck

Virtual PC might be free, but the license to run XP within it is not,
and you may find it difficult to even find a copy of XP to install
within it.

--
Zaphod

Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven
years in a row.

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:35:50 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

> "alien" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 14/02/2011 6:05, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran
>>> well
>>> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can
>>> find)
>>> for Windows7.
>>>
>>> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this
>>> going
>>> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
>>> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this
>>> doesn't
>>> work.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>> How about using virtual machine from microsoft, it's for free if you
>> using Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7
>> Enterprise.
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx
>>
>> Good luck
>
> Virtual PC might be free, but the license to run XP within it is not,
> and you may find it difficult to even find a copy of XP to install
> within it.

The site is not 100% explicit, but there's no indication that XP mode
costs money.

I was able to get to the download page for it without a credit card, but
I chose not to go further, since I didn't want to mess around. Or mess
up :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Seth]

"Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:35:50 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>
>> "alien" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 14/02/2011 6:05, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran
>>>> well
>>>> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can
>>>> find)
>>>> for Windows7.
>>>>
>>>> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this
>>>> going
>>>> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
>>>> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this
>>>> doesn't
>>>> work.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>> How about using virtual machine from microsoft, it's for free if you
>>> using Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7
>>> Enterprise.
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx
>>>
>>> Good luck
>>
>> Virtual PC might be free, but the license to run XP within it is not,
>> and you may find it difficult to even find a copy of XP to install
>> within it.
>
> The site is not 100% explicit, but there's no indication that XP mode
> costs money.
>
> I was able to get to the download page for it without a credit card, but
> I chose not to go further, since I didn't want to mess around. Or mess
> up :-)

If you have Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise or Ultimate, then "XP Mode"
is already included at no additional cost, not even for the XP license. The
"other" methods, VirtualBox, Virtual PC, VMWare Player, etc... The
virtualization product may be free, but all require the additional Windows
license.

[alien]

On 18/02/2011 19:35, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 14/02/2011 6:05, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran
>>> well
>>> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can
>>> find)
>>> for Windows7.
>>>
>>> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this
>>> going
>>> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
>>> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this
>>> doesn't
>>> work.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>> How about using virtual machine from microsoft, it's for free if you
>> using Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7
>> Enterprise.
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx
>>
>> Good luck
>
> Virtual PC might be free, but the license to run XP within it is not,
> and you may find it difficult to even find a copy of XP to install
> within it.
>
Sorry for late reply, no you don't need anything else if you using
Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7 Enterprise.
the windows xp already under license.
I already install it and it working smooth on my side, the only I need
now is to install another antivirus on it. but I choose not too since I
only install programs that already scanned on my non virtual machine.

--
alien
~Work like you don't need the money.~
~Love like you've never been hurt.~
~Dance like nobody is looking.~

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:20:40 -0500, Seth wrote:

> "Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:35:50 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>
>>> "alien" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 14/02/2011 6:05, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran
>>>>> well
>>>>> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can
>>>>> find)
>>>>> for Windows7.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this
>>>>> going
>>>>> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
>>>>> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>> How about using virtual machine from microsoft, it's for free if you
>>>> using Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7
>>>> Enterprise.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx
>>>>
>>>> Good luck
>>>
>>> Virtual PC might be free, but the license to run XP within it is not,
>>> and you may find it difficult to even find a copy of XP to install
>>> within it.
>>
>> The site is not 100% explicit, but there's no indication that XP mode
>> costs money.
>>
>> I was able to get to the download page for it without a credit card, but
>> I chose not to go further, since I didn't want to mess around. Or mess
>> up :-)
>
> If you have Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise or Ultimate, then "XP Mode"
> is already included at no additional cost, not even for the XP license. The
> "other" methods, VirtualBox, Virtual PC, VMWare Player, etc... The
> virtualization product may be free, but all require the additional Windows
> license.

I have Home Premium, and as I said, it looked to me like I could D/L the
XP Mode without a credit card...

If there was the necessity to purchase a license, it was not indicated
before clicking on download; if it takes a license to run it, then I
didn't go far enough to see that, since I know I don't have the right to
do that.

Here are direct quotes from

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Virtual_PC#Windows_XP_Mode

"Windows XP Mode (XPM)[23] is a virtual machine package for Windows
Virtual PC containing a pre-installed, licensed copy of Windows XP
Professional with Service Pack 3 as its guest OS."

"Windows XP mode is available free of charge to users of Windows 7
Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate.[22] Users of other editions of
Windows 7 are not eligible to download and use it.[24][28] This
restriction does not apply to Windows Virtual PC itself."

Note the phrase "available free of charge" in the second quote. As a
Home Premium user, I don't qualify, of course, although I can get
Windows Virtual PC - but I'm satisfied with VMware Player and my
licensed copy of XP.

All that really refers to the the post from Zaphod Beeblebrox to which I
originally replied, if you hadn't noticed. He said "Virtual PC might be
free, but the license to run XP within it is not", and I disagreed. Your
post kind of reinforced mine, but it sounded to me like you disagreed
with me.

So eventually I went to Wikipedia...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Seth]

"Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:20:40 -0500, Seth wrote:
>
>> "Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:35:50 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>>
>>>> "alien" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 14/02/2011 6:05, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran
>>>>>> well
>>>>>> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can
>>>>>> find)
>>>>>> for Windows7.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
>>>>>> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>> How about using virtual machine from microsoft, it's for free if you
>>>>> using Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7
>>>>> Enterprise.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck
>>>>
>>>> Virtual PC might be free, but the license to run XP within it is not,
>>>> and you may find it difficult to even find a copy of XP to install
>>>> within it.
>>>
>>> The site is not 100% explicit, but there's no indication that XP mode
>>> costs money.
>>>
>>> I was able to get to the download page for it without a credit card, but
>>> I chose not to go further, since I didn't want to mess around. Or mess
>>> up :-)
>>
>> If you have Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise or Ultimate, then "XP
>> Mode"
>> is already included at no additional cost, not even for the XP license.
>> The
>> "other" methods, VirtualBox, Virtual PC, VMWare Player, etc... The
>> virtualization product may be free, but all require the additional
>> Windows
>> license.
>
> I have Home Premium, and as I said, it looked to me like I could D/L the
> XP Mode without a credit card...

Which download? IIRC, there were 3 items to download for "XP Mode". I
haven't downloaded them in a while so it is possible they have been
consolidated into a single download.

Again, from memory
- Virtual PC - Free for anyone to download
- The actual XP image _ that's the puppy that needs a license which is
included for E,P and U licensees
- 3rd download I forget what it was. Maybe the license?

This stuff is on my test machine at the office so I can't check and see what
I actually downloaded till Monday.

> If there was the necessity to purchase a license, it was not indicated
> before clicking on download; if it takes a license to run it, then I
> didn't go far enough to see that, since I know I don't have the right to
> do that.

Not available for purchase separately. Already "purchased" if you have E,P
or U.

> Here are direct quotes from
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Virtual_PC#Windows_XP_Mode
>
> "Windows XP Mode (XPM)[23] is a virtual machine package for Windows
> Virtual PC containing a pre-installed, licensed copy of Windows XP
> Professional with Service Pack 3 as its guest OS."
>
> "Windows XP mode is available free of charge to users of Windows 7
> Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate.[22] Users of other editions of
> Windows 7 are not eligible to download and use it.[24][28] This
> restriction does not apply to Windows Virtual PC itself."
>
> Note the phrase "available free of charge" in the second quote. As a
> Home Premium user, I don't qualify, of course, although I can get
> Windows Virtual PC - but I'm satisfied with VMware Player and my
> licensed copy of XP.
>
> All that really refers to the the post from Zaphod Beeblebrox to which I
> originally replied, if you hadn't noticed. He said "Virtual PC might be
> free, but the license to run XP within it is not", and I disagreed. Your
> post kind of reinforced mine, but it sounded to me like you disagreed
> with me.

I'd have top read back through all the posts to find specifically who I do
or don't agree with so I will restate what MS says about it. What you have
above though, if I'm reading your wording correctly I'd say I'm with Zaphod
(with an addendum that "Virtual PC is currently free for all" and "XP within
is not free, but available at no additional cost to E,P and U licensees")

- Virtual PC 2007 - Free (older versions required purchase\license in the
past)
- The XP that is used in "Windows 7 XP Mode" - special image that you get a
license for at no extra charge with Windows 7 E,P or U.
- 3rd party VM hosts - varies by vendor
- XP to run in a VM on a 3rd party host - requires a license

> So eventually I went to Wikipedia...

[Roy Smith[_6_]]

On 2/18/2011 3:41 PM, Seth wrote:
>
> "Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:20:40 -0500, Seth wrote:
>>
>>> "Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:35:50 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "alien" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 14/02/2011 6:05, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran
>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can
>>>>>>> find)
>>>>>>> for Windows7.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
>>>>>>> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this
>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about using virtual machine from microsoft, it's for free if you
>>>>>> using Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7
>>>>>> Enterprise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>
>>>>> Virtual PC might be free, but the license to run XP within it is not,
>>>>> and you may find it difficult to even find a copy of XP to install
>>>>> within it.
>>>>
>>>> The site is not 100% explicit, but there's no indication that XP mode
>>>> costs money.
>>>>
>>>> I was able to get to the download page for it without a credit card,
>>>> but
>>>> I chose not to go further, since I didn't want to mess around. Or mess
>>>> up :-)
>>>
>>> If you have Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise or Ultimate, then "XP
>>> Mode"
>>> is already included at no additional cost, not even for the XP
>>> license. The
>>> "other" methods, VirtualBox, Virtual PC, VMWare Player, etc... The
>>> virtualization product may be free, but all require the additional
>>> Windows
>>> license.
>>
>> I have Home Premium, and as I said, it looked to me like I could D/L the
>> XP Mode without a credit card...
>
> Which download? IIRC, there were 3 items to download for "XP Mode". I
> haven't downloaded them in a while so it is possible they have been
> consolidated into a single download.
>
> Again, from memory
> - Virtual PC - Free for anyone to download
> - The actual XP image _ that's the puppy that needs a license which is
> included for E,P and U licensees
> - 3rd download I forget what it was. Maybe the license?

Nah... it is a update for PC's that don't have hardware assisted
virtualization. Here's the overview for that update:

"Install this update to remove the prerequisites required to run Windows
Virtual PC and XP mode. The prerequisites include a processor which
supports hardware assisted virtualization (HAV) which is also enabled in
the BIOS. After you install this item, you may have to restart your
computer."



--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.7
Friday, February 18, 2011 4:34:34 PM

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

"Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:35:50 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>
>> "alien" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 14/02/2011 6:05, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran
>>>> well
>>>> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can
>>>> find)
>>>> for Windows7.
>>>>
>>>> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this
>>>> going
>>>> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
>>>> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this
>>>> doesn't
>>>> work.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>> How about using virtual machine from microsoft, it's for free if
>>> you
>>> using Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7
>>> Enterprise.
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx
>>>
>>> Good luck
>>
>> Virtual PC might be free, but the license to run XP within it is
>> not,
>> and you may find it difficult to even find a copy of XP to install
>> within it.
>
> The site is not 100% explicit, but there's no indication that XP
> mode
> costs money.
>
> I was able to get to the download page for it without a credit card,
> but
> I chose not to go further, since I didn't want to mess around. Or
> mess
> up :-)
>

I was talking about Virtual PC, which is free for any Windows 7
version but does not include a license to run Windows XP within it,
not XP Mode, which is only available to non-Home versions of Windows 7
but does include a license to run Windows XP within it.

--
Zaphod

Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster: A cocktail based on Janx Spirit.
The effect of one is like having your brain smashed out
by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

"alien" > wrote in message
...
> On 18/02/2011 19:35, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 14/02/2011 6:05, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran
>>>> well
>>>> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can
>>>> find)
>>>> for Windows7.
>>>>
>>>> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this
>>>> going
>>>> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
>>>> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this
>>>> doesn't
>>>> work.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>> How about using virtual machine from microsoft, it's for free if
>>> you
>>> using Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7
>>> Enterprise.
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx
>>>
>>> Good luck
>>
>> Virtual PC might be free, but the license to run XP within it is
>> not,
>> and you may find it difficult to even find a copy of XP to install
>> within it.
>>
> Sorry for late reply, no you don't need anything else if you using
> Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7 Enterprise.
> the windows xp already under license.
> I already install it and it working smooth on my side, the only I
> need now is to install another antivirus on it. but I choose not too
> since I only install programs that already scanned on my non virtual
> machine.
>

I did not realize the link was for both XP Mode, which contains a
license to run XP but is only available to non-Home versions of
Windows 7, and Virtual PC, which does not contain a license but is
free for any version of Windows 7. In either case, the distinction I
was trying to make is valid.

--
Zaphod

Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's
something big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the
universe gets that.

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:30:52 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

> "Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:35:50 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>
>>> "alien" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 14/02/2011 6:05, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran
>>>>> well
>>>>> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can
>>>>> find)
>>>>> for Windows7.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this
>>>>> going
>>>>> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
>>>>> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>> How about using virtual machine from microsoft, it's for free if
>>>> you
>>>> using Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7
>>>> Enterprise.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx
>>>>
>>>> Good luck
>>>
>>> Virtual PC might be free, but the license to run XP within it is
>>> not,
>>> and you may find it difficult to even find a copy of XP to install
>>> within it.
>>
>> The site is not 100% explicit, but there's no indication that XP
>> mode
>> costs money.
>>
>> I was able to get to the download page for it without a credit card,
>> but
>> I chose not to go further, since I didn't want to mess around. Or
>> mess
>> up :-)
>>
>
> I was talking about Virtual PC, which is free for any Windows 7
> version but does not include a license to run Windows XP within it,
> not XP Mode, which is only available to non-Home versions of Windows 7
> but does include a license to run Windows XP within it.

It looks to me like we agreed, but didn't realize it :-)

Thanks: you have reminded me that I have to remember to boot into XP
today to fix a new problem with my remote control (whose software
requires XP). Every time I start XP in VMplayer, it takes what feels
like an hour to get all the software updated, since I run it so
infrequently.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Sunny Bard]

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:30:52 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>
>> "Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:35:50 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>>
>>>> "alien" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 14/02/2011 6:05, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran
>>>>>> well
>>>>>> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can
>>>>>> find)
>>>>>> for Windows7.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
>>>>>> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>> How about using virtual machine from microsoft, it's for free if
>>>>> you
>>>>> using Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7
>>>>> Enterprise.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck
>>>>
>>>> Virtual PC might be free, but the license to run XP within it is
>>>> not,
>>>> and you may find it difficult to even find a copy of XP to install
>>>> within it.
>>>
>>> The site is not 100% explicit, but there's no indication that XP
>>> mode
>>> costs money.
>>>
>>> I was able to get to the download page for it without a credit card,
>>> but
>>> I chose not to go further, since I didn't want to mess around. Or
>>> mess
>>> up :-)
>>>
>>
>> I was talking about Virtual PC, which is free for any Windows 7
>> version but does not include a license to run Windows XP within it,
>> not XP Mode, which is only available to non-Home versions of Windows 7
>> but does include a license to run Windows XP within it.
>
> It looks to me like we agreed, but didn't realize it :-)
>
> Thanks: you have reminded me that I have to remember to boot into XP
> today to fix a new problem with my remote control (whose software
> requires XP). Every time I start XP in VMplayer, it takes what feels
> like an hour to get all the software updated, since I run it so
> infrequently.

Has anyone managed to get Microsoft to activate XP Mode running under a
different hypervisor? The packaging clearly says that it is licenced to
run under virtualisation technology /such as/ Windows Virtual PC.

I do have it running under VirtualBox 4.x very nicely, but that involves
binary editing of the BIOS files provided by VirtualBox, the standard XP
activation won't work over the internet, or by the phone method, even
when re-entering the proper licence key, obviously they've tied it to
details in the VPC BIOS (I gather VMware player can fake it too).

I've paid for Ultimate to get a properly licences XP Mode, I'd like to
have it activated without any kludges ...

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 08:03:18 +0000, Sunny Bard wrote:

> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:30:52 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>
>>> "Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:35:50 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "alien" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 14/02/2011 6:05, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran
>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can
>>>>>>> find)
>>>>>>> for Windows7.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
>>>>>>> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this
>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about using virtual machine from microsoft, it's for free if
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> using Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7
>>>>>> Enterprise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>
>>>>> Virtual PC might be free, but the license to run XP within it is
>>>>> not,
>>>>> and you may find it difficult to even find a copy of XP to install
>>>>> within it.
>>>>
>>>> The site is not 100% explicit, but there's no indication that XP
>>>> mode
>>>> costs money.
>>>>
>>>> I was able to get to the download page for it without a credit card,
>>>> but
>>>> I chose not to go further, since I didn't want to mess around. Or
>>>> mess
>>>> up :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was talking about Virtual PC, which is free for any Windows 7
>>> version but does not include a license to run Windows XP within it,
>>> not XP Mode, which is only available to non-Home versions of Windows 7
>>> but does include a license to run Windows XP within it.
>>
>> It looks to me like we agreed, but didn't realize it :-)
>>
>> Thanks: you have reminded me that I have to remember to boot into XP
>> today to fix a new problem with my remote control (whose software
>> requires XP). Every time I start XP in VMplayer, it takes what feels
>> like an hour to get all the software updated, since I run it so
>> infrequently.
>
> Has anyone managed to get Microsoft to activate XP Mode running under a
> different hypervisor? The packaging clearly says that it is licenced to
> run under virtualisation technology /such as/ Windows Virtual PC.
>
> I do have it running under VirtualBox 4.x very nicely, but that involves
> binary editing of the BIOS files provided by VirtualBox, the standard XP
> activation won't work over the internet, or by the phone method, even
> when re-entering the proper licence key, obviously they've tied it to
> details in the VPC BIOS (I gather VMware player can fake it too).
>
> I've paid for Ultimate to get a properly licences XP Mode, I'd like to
> have it activated without any kludges ...

Interesting question, but I'm not sure I trust my skills enough to try
the experiment :-)

Anyone else got the courage?

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Roy Smith[_6_]]

On 2/22/2011 2:03 AM, Sunny Bard wrote:
> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:30:52 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>
>>> "Gene E. > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:35:50 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 14/02/2011 6:05, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>> I have a 1993 dot-matrix printer Fujitsu DL5800 that always ran
>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>> in Windows XP (SP3) but now no drivers are available (that I can
>>>>>>> find)
>>>>>>> for Windows7.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still have the driver that worked in XP but how do I get this
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> on Windows 7? I have already tried to use the the window
>>>>>>> "compatability tab"in the program file's Properties, but this
>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about using virtual machine from microsoft, it's for free if
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> using Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7
>>>>>> Enterprise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>
>>>>> Virtual PC might be free, but the license to run XP within it is
>>>>> not,
>>>>> and you may find it difficult to even find a copy of XP to install
>>>>> within it.
>>>>
>>>> The site is not 100% explicit, but there's no indication that XP
>>>> mode
>>>> costs money.
>>>>
>>>> I was able to get to the download page for it without a credit card,
>>>> but
>>>> I chose not to go further, since I didn't want to mess around. Or
>>>> mess
>>>> up :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was talking about Virtual PC, which is free for any Windows 7
>>> version but does not include a license to run Windows XP within it,
>>> not XP Mode, which is only available to non-Home versions of Windows 7
>>> but does include a license to run Windows XP within it.
>>
>> It looks to me like we agreed, but didn't realize it :-)
>>
>> Thanks: you have reminded me that I have to remember to boot into XP
>> today to fix a new problem with my remote control (whose software
>> requires XP). Every time I start XP in VMplayer, it takes what feels
>> like an hour to get all the software updated, since I run it so
>> infrequently.
>
> Has anyone managed to get Microsoft to activate XP Mode running under a
> different hypervisor? The packaging clearly says that it is licenced to
> run under virtualisation technology /such as/ Windows Virtual PC.
>
> I do have it running under VirtualBox 4.x very nicely, but that involves
> binary editing of the BIOS files provided by VirtualBox, the standard XP
> activation won't work over the internet, or by the phone method, even
> when re-entering the proper licence key, obviously they've tied it to
> details in the VPC BIOS (I gather VMware player can fake it too).
>
> I've paid for Ultimate to get a properly licences XP Mode, I'd like to
> have it activated without any kludges ...

I have XPmode running under VMware Player and it was easy. Just click
on File and you'll see a menu item that says something like Import XP
Mode VM. Then just sit back and wait a few minutes while it brings in
XP Mode into your VMware player. Works like a champ and it even passes
any Windows Genuine Advantage checks.


--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.7
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:21:58 PM

[Sunny Bard]

Roy Smith wrote:

> On 2/22/2011 2:03 AM, Sunny Bard wrote:
>
>> I've paid for Ultimate to get a properly licences XP Mode, I'd like to
>> have it activated without any kludges ...
>
> I have XPmode running under VMware Player and it was easy.

Yes, I was lead to believe VMware player could make its BIOS look like
the Virtual PC BIOS as far as activation was concerned, of course that's
what I've done to VirtualBox's BIOS, but blatting a specific string of
bytes are a particular DMI address probably isn't too friendly to
whatever bytes happened to be there beforehand ...