Win 8 must go!

[Mellowed[_2_]]

The Wife got on the Win8 laptop last night and the fury exploded. All
she wanted was to relax spend some time on her favorite games. Well
they are no longer there. She couldn't believe that I loaded this
thing. WHY?, she asked.

Well today I will try to use the Windows OLD folder on the laptop and
avoid if possible a complete reinstall of Win7.

I'm using the Classic interface and that helped my objections. I like
IE10 and the OS appears solid. But a computer has many uses and
relaxing is one of them. Win8 doesn't satisfy that requirement.

Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games, I
believe they will have a winner.

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Mellowed" > wrote in message
...
> The Wife got on the Win8 laptop last night and the fury exploded. All she
> wanted was to relax spend some time on her favorite games. Well they are
> no longer there. She couldn't believe that I loaded this thing. WHY?,
> she asked.
>
> Well today I will try to use the Windows OLD folder on the laptop and
> avoid if possible a complete reinstall of Win7.
>
> I'm using the Classic interface and that helped my objections. I like
> IE10 and the OS appears solid. But a computer has many uses and relaxing
> is one of them. Win8 doesn't satisfy that requirement.
>
> Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of that
> stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games, I believe
> they will have a winner.
>
You can use the Win7 explorer with Win8, and it's boot right to the desktop,
and look and feel like Win7 (that's what I did):
<http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/157302-windows-7-explorer-for-windows-8/>

And, you can import Win7 games into Win8 also (I like Win7 Solitaire and
Free Cell better than any version I've ever played):
<http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/>

You can get the files you need for those two steps from your Windows.old
folder.

As if that wasn't enough, you can always auto-log her in, too. Run netplwiz
and remove the checkmark from the box next to "Users must enter
a user name and password to use this computer" and click OK. It'll prompt
you for her password. Enter it, press OK, and you're good to go :-)

By this time, it'll look so much like Win7, she'll think you re-installed it
for her :-) (Yeah. Right.)
--
SC Tom

[Dave-UK]

"Mellowed" > wrote in message ...

> Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
> that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games, I
> believe they will have a winner.
>

If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/

[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

SC Tom wrote:
>
>
> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
> ...
>> The Wife got on the Win8 laptop last night and the fury exploded. All
>> she wanted was to relax spend some time on her favorite games. Well
>> they are no longer there. She couldn't believe that I loaded this
>> thing. WHY?, she asked.
>>
>> Well today I will try to use the Windows OLD folder on the laptop and
>> avoid if possible a complete reinstall of Win7.
>>
>> I'm using the Classic interface and that helped my objections. I like
>> IE10 and the OS appears solid. But a computer has many uses and
>> relaxing is one of them. Win8 doesn't satisfy that requirement.
>>
>> Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
>> that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games,
>> I believe they will have a winner.
>>
> You can use the Win7 explorer with Win8, and it's boot right to the
> desktop, and look and feel like Win7 (that's what I did):
> <http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/157302-windows-7-explorer-for-windows-8/>
>
> And, you can import Win7 games into Win8 also (I like Win7 Solitaire and
> Free Cell better than any version I've ever played):
> <http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/>
>
>
> You can get the files you need for those two steps from your Windows.old
> folder.
>
> As if that wasn't enough, you can always auto-log her in, too. Run
> netplwiz and remove the checkmark from the box next to "Users must enter
> a user name and password to use this computer" and click OK. It'll
> prompt you for her password. Enter it, press OK, and you're good to go :-)
>
> By this time, it'll look so much like Win7, she'll think you
> re-installed it for her :-) (Yeah. Right.)

Windows without Solitaire is like marriage without sex.
--
Crash

Today is the first day of the rest of your life,
and there's not a damned thing you can do about it.

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Dave "Crash" Dummy" > wrote in message
...
> SC Tom wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> The Wife got on the Win8 laptop last night and the fury exploded. All
>>> she wanted was to relax spend some time on her favorite games. Well
>>> they are no longer there. She couldn't believe that I loaded this
>>> thing. WHY?, she asked.
>>>
>>> Well today I will try to use the Windows OLD folder on the laptop and
>>> avoid if possible a complete reinstall of Win7.
>>>
>>> I'm using the Classic interface and that helped my objections. I like
>>> IE10 and the OS appears solid. But a computer has many uses and
>>> relaxing is one of them. Win8 doesn't satisfy that requirement.
>>>
>>> Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
>>> that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games, I
>>> believe they will have a winner.
>>>
>> You can use the Win7 explorer with Win8, and it's boot right to the
>> desktop, and look and feel like Win7 (that's what I did):
>> <http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/157302-windows-7-explorer-for-windows-8/>
>>
>> And, you can import Win7 games into Win8 also (I like Win7 Solitaire and
>> Free Cell better than any version I've ever played):
>> <http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/>
>> You can get the files you need for those two steps from your Windows.old
>> folder.
>>
>> As if that wasn't enough, you can always auto-log her in, too. Run
>> netplwiz and remove the checkmark from the box next to "Users must enter
>> a user name and password to use this computer" and click OK. It'll prompt
>> you for her password. Enter it, press OK, and you're good to go :-)
>>
>> By this time, it'll look so much like Win7, she'll think you re-installed
>> it for her :-) (Yeah. Right.)
>
> Windows without Solitaire is like marriage without sex.

+1 <BG>

[..winston[_2_]]

"Mellowed" wrote in message ...

>
The Wife got on the Win8 laptop last night and the fury exploded. All
she wanted was to relax spend some time on her favorite games. Well
they are no longer there. She couldn't believe that I loaded this
thing. WHY?, she asked.

Well today I will try to use the Windows OLD folder on the laptop and
avoid if possible a complete reinstall of Win7.

I'm using the Classic interface and that helped my objections. I like
IE10 and the OS appears solid. But a computer has many uses and
relaxing is one of them. Win8 doesn't satisfy that requirement.

Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games, I
believe they will have a winner.
>

Solitaire suite, Free Cell, Minesweeper are all available from the MSFT store.

Afaik and afaics Microsoft will not (now or in the future) rejuvenate the Start Menu.

--
....winston
msft mvp mail

[Mellowed[_2_]]

On 11/1/2012 12:09 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
>
> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
>> that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games,
>> I believe they will have a winner.
>>
>
> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
>
>
>
Dave,
I read this with interest. But, I think I have a problem in
implementing the changes.

My only Win7 copy is now the Win8. I have Vista 32bit, but the
Win7/Win8 is 64 bit. I doubt that I can copy/paste a 32 bit DLL from my
32 bit Vista into a 64 bit machine. Please confirm.

Thanks,

[Sam Hill]

On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:01:28 -0400, ..winston wrote:

> "Mellowed" wrote in message ...
>
> [all comments snipped]

....winston
msft mvp mail

If you really are a Microsoft "mvp" you would realize that your quoting
makes reading your posts nearly impossible to tell who wrote what
(especially as you sometimes top-post and sometimes bottom-post), and you
would do something to correct that.

Such as dumping WLM...

[Dave-UK]

"Mellowed" > wrote in message ...
> On 11/1/2012 12:09 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
>>
>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
>>> that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games,
>>> I believe they will have a winner.
>>>
>>
>> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
>> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
>>
>>
>>
> Dave,
> I read this with interest. But, I think I have a problem in
> implementing the changes.
>
> My only Win7 copy is now the Win8. I have Vista 32bit, but the
> Win7/Win8 is 64 bit. I doubt that I can copy/paste a 32 bit DLL from my
> 32 bit Vista into a 64 bit machine. Please confirm.
>
> Thanks,
>

The 32 bit dll goes into the relevant card games sub-folder.
Then the Microsoft Games folder is put into the Program Files (x86) folder on a 64 bit machine.

[Mellowed[_2_]]

On 11/1/2012 1:59 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
>
> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 11/1/2012 12:09 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
>>>
>>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
>>>> that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games,
>>>> I believe they will have a winner.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Dave,
>> I read this with interest. But, I think I have a problem in
>> implementing the changes.
>>
>> My only Win7 copy is now the Win8. I have Vista 32bit, but the
>> Win7/Win8 is 64 bit. I doubt that I can copy/paste a 32 bit DLL from
>> my 32 bit Vista into a 64 bit machine. Please confirm.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>
> The 32 bit dll goes into the relevant card games sub-folder.
> Then the Microsoft Games folder is put into the Program Files (x86)
> folder on a 64 bit machine.
>
>
Thanks Dave, I just now found that when I expanded the Windows.old
folder. I'm now going to locate a Hex Editor. Should be no problem as
in the old days (before retiring) I used HEX on occasion.

[Nil[_2_]]

On 01 Nov 2012, Sam Hill > wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

> If you really are a Microsoft "mvp" you would realize that your
> quoting makes reading your posts nearly impossible to tell who
> wrote what (especially as you sometimes top-post and sometimes
> bottom-post), and you would do something to correct that.
>
> Such as dumping WLM...

He knows. He doesn't care. He likes it that way.

[Ken Blake[_4_]]

On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:09:31 -0000, "Dave-UK" > wrote:

>
> "Mellowed" > wrote in message ...
>
> > Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
> > that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games, I
> > believe they will have a winner.
> >
>
> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/



Yes, but this works in 32-bit Windows 8, but not in 64-bit Windows 8.

Ken

--
Ken Blake

[Sam Hill]

Nil wrote:

> Sam Hill wrote (to "...winston"):
>> If you really are a Microsoft "mvp" you would realize that your quoting
>> makes reading your posts nearly impossible to tell who wrote what
>> (especially as you sometimes top-post and sometimes bottom-post), and
>> you would do something to correct that.
>>
>> Such as dumping WLM...
>
> He knows. He doesn't care. He likes it that way.

Candidate for the killfile then? That's where inconsiderate people belong.

--
sam

[..winston]

Preaching to the choir.

Having replied to the first post and bottom posted any simpleton should be able to figure out which came first and last and to whom
the response was intended.

YOMMFSWGASAUP

--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Sam Hill" wrote in message ...

On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:01:28 -0400, ..winston wrote:

> "Mellowed" wrote in message ...
>
> [all comments snipped]

....winston
msft mvp mail

If you really are a Microsoft "mvp" you would realize that your quoting
makes reading your posts nearly impossible to tell who wrote what
(especially as you sometimes top-post and sometimes bottom-post), and you
would do something to correct that.

Such as dumping WLM...

[Robin Bignall]

On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 15:45:51 -0400, "SC Tom" > wrote:

>
>
>"Dave "Crash" Dummy" > wrote in message
...
>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> The Wife got on the Win8 laptop last night and the fury exploded. All
>>>> she wanted was to relax spend some time on her favorite games. Well
>>>> they are no longer there. She couldn't believe that I loaded this
>>>> thing. WHY?, she asked.
>>>>
>>>> Well today I will try to use the Windows OLD folder on the laptop and
>>>> avoid if possible a complete reinstall of Win7.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using the Classic interface and that helped my objections. I like
>>>> IE10 and the OS appears solid. But a computer has many uses and
>>>> relaxing is one of them. Win8 doesn't satisfy that requirement.
>>>>
>>>> Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
>>>> that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games, I
>>>> believe they will have a winner.
>>>>
>>> You can use the Win7 explorer with Win8, and it's boot right to the
>>> desktop, and look and feel like Win7 (that's what I did):
>>> <http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/157302-windows-7-explorer-for-windows-8/>
>>>
>>> And, you can import Win7 games into Win8 also (I like Win7 Solitaire and
>>> Free Cell better than any version I've ever played):
>>> <http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/>
>>> You can get the files you need for those two steps from your Windows.old
>>> folder.
>>>
>>> As if that wasn't enough, you can always auto-log her in, too. Run
>>> netplwiz and remove the checkmark from the box next to "Users must enter
>>> a user name and password to use this computer" and click OK. It'll prompt
>>> you for her password. Enter it, press OK, and you're good to go :-)
>>>
>>> By this time, it'll look so much like Win7, she'll think you re-installed
>>> it for her :-) (Yeah. Right.)
>>
>> Windows without Solitaire is like marriage without sex.
>
>+1 <BG>
>
There's probably lots of it around as elderly people's operating systems
don't get regular updates.
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England

[Sam Hill]

...winston wrote:

> Preaching to the choir.

If you so agree that WLM is a piece of crap, why do you then continue to
use it?

> Having replied to the first post and bottom posted any simpleton should
> be able to figure out which came first and last and to whom the response
> was intended.
>
> YOMMFSWGASAUP

<quote>
Your search - YOMMFSWGASAUP - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:

Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
Try different keywords.
Try more general keywords.
</quote>

It's probably something rude, so .. off you go!

--
sam

[Mellowed[_2_]]

On 11/1/2012 2:22 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:09:31 -0000, "Dave-UK" > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message ...
>>
>>> Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
>>> that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games, I
>>> believe they will have a winner.
>>>
>>
>> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
>> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
>
>
>
> Yes, but this works in 32-bit Windows 8, but not in 64-bit Windows 8.
>
> Ken
>
Maybe that's why I'm having trouble. I also can't find the right Byte
sequence in the Hex Editor.

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 21:40:57 +0000 (UTC), Sam Hill wrote:

> Nil wrote:
>
>> Sam Hill wrote (to "...winston"):
>>> If you really are a Microsoft "mvp" you would realize that your quoting
>>> makes reading your posts nearly impossible to tell who wrote what
>>> (especially as you sometimes top-post and sometimes bottom-post), and
>>> you would do something to correct that.
>>>
>>> Such as dumping WLM...
>>
>> He knows. He doesn't care. He likes it that way.
>
> Candidate for the killfile then? That's where inconsiderate people belong.

I rarely killfile - usually only for excessively profane or racist
posters.

But if a post is too much bother to read or parse, I won't bother to
read or parse it :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Nil[_2_]]

On 01 Nov 2012, Sam Hill > wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

> Candidate for the killfile then? That's where inconsiderate people
> belong.

No, not for me. He knows his **** and I'd like to hear what he has to
say, so I'll glance at his posts in case they're readable, as they
sometimes are (if they are the first or only response.) Most often,
though, they're incomprehensibly garbled, so I just move on.

Killfiles are for annoyances. His posts are merely disappointing.

[..winston]

"Sam Hill" wrote in message ...

...winston wrote:
>> Preaching to the choir.

> If you so agree that WLM is a piece of crap, why do you then continue to use it?

You're more than welcome to sign up for the nntp computer forums on the AnnexCafe (private, registration required with a valid
email address, username/pw for sign on)

http://annexcafe.com/
http://www.annexcafe.com/about.cfm
http://annexcafe.com/tos.cfm

But do note...
We support
Top posting, bottom posting, html, attachments up to 1MB and more importantly any newsreader.

--
....winston
msft mvp mail

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Mellowed" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/1/2012 1:59 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
>>
>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 11/1/2012 12:09 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
>>>>> that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games,
>>>>> I believe they will have a winner.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Dave,
>>> I read this with interest. But, I think I have a problem in
>>> implementing the changes.
>>>
>>> My only Win7 copy is now the Win8. I have Vista 32bit, but the
>>> Win7/Win8 is 64 bit. I doubt that I can copy/paste a 32 bit DLL from
>>> my 32 bit Vista into a 64 bit machine. Please confirm.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>
>> The 32 bit dll goes into the relevant card games sub-folder.
>> Then the Microsoft Games folder is put into the Program Files (x86)
>> folder on a 64 bit machine.
>>
>>
> Thanks Dave, I just now found that when I expanded the Windows.old
> folder. I'm now going to locate a Hex Editor. Should be no problem as in
> the old days (before retiring) I used HEX on occasion.

I had mentioned that in my reply to you earlier. Also, if you'll look a
little over half the way down the page on the article, you'll find a
download link for the Game Patcher, so you don't need to do any hex editing.
Works great!
--
SC Tom

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Ken Blake" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:09:31 -0000, "Dave-UK" > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
>> > that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games, I
>> > believe they will have a winner.
>> >
>>
>> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
>> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
>
>
>
> Yes, but this works in 32-bit Windows 8, but not in 64-bit Windows 8.
>
> Ken
>
Nope, works great in 64-bit Win8 Pro. I already did it 3 or 4 days ago.
--
SC Tom

[Mellowed[_2_]]

On 11/1/2012 4:41 PM, SC Tom wrote:
>
>
> "Ken Blake" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:09:31 -0000, "Dave-UK" > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> > Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
>>> > that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite
>>> games, I
>>> > believe they will have a winner.
>>> >
>>>
>>> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, but this works in 32-bit Windows 8, but not in 64-bit Windows 8.
>>
>> Ken
>>
> Nope, works great in 64-bit Win8 Pro. I already did it 3 or 4 days ago.
I used the search function in the Hex Editor and did not find the proper
Hex sequence. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

[Ken Blake[_4_]]

On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:28:42 -0700, Mellowed > wrote:

> On 11/1/2012 2:22 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:09:31 -0000, "Dave-UK" > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Mellowed" > wrote in message ...
> >>
> >>> Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
> >>> that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games, I
> >>> believe they will have a winner.
> >>>
> >>
> >> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
> >> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, but this works in 32-bit Windows 8, but not in 64-bit Windows 8.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> Maybe that's why I'm having trouble. I also can't find the right Byte
> sequence in the Hex Editor.


Yes, that's the same thing that happened to me with 64-bit Windows 8.
But it worked fine on my wife's 32-bit machine.


--
Ken Blake

[Mellowed[_2_]]

On 11/1/2012 4:40 PM, SC Tom wrote:
>
>
> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 11/1/2012 1:59 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
>>>
>>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 11/1/2012 12:09 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
>>>>>> that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games,
>>>>>> I believe they will have a winner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
>>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Dave,
>>>> I read this with interest. But, I think I have a problem in
>>>> implementing the changes.
>>>>
>>>> My only Win7 copy is now the Win8. I have Vista 32bit, but the
>>>> Win7/Win8 is 64 bit. I doubt that I can copy/paste a 32 bit DLL from
>>>> my 32 bit Vista into a 64 bit machine. Please confirm.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>
>>> The 32 bit dll goes into the relevant card games sub-folder.
>>> Then the Microsoft Games folder is put into the Program Files (x86)
>>> folder on a 64 bit machine.
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks Dave, I just now found that when I expanded the Windows.old
>> folder. I'm now going to locate a Hex Editor. Should be no problem
>> as in the old days (before retiring) I used HEX on occasion.
>
> I had mentioned that in my reply to you earlier. Also, if you'll look a
> little over half the way down the page on the article, you'll find a
> download link for the Game Patcher, so you don't need to do any hex
> editing. Works great!
I say the Game Patcher but decided the Hex Search would be OK for the 3
games the Wife uses.

[Ken Blake[_4_]]

On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:41:42 -0400, "SC Tom" > wrote:

>
>
> "Ken Blake" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:09:31 -0000, "Dave-UK" > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> > Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
> >> > that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games, I
> >> > believe they will have a winner.
> >> >
> >>
> >> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
> >> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, but this works in 32-bit Windows 8, but not in 64-bit Windows 8.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> Nope, works great in 64-bit Win8 Pro. I already did it 3 or 4 days ago.


That's good to hear. But it didn't work here. The hex editor couldn't
find the characters to edit. And Mellowed said the same thing.

Any suggestions as to what I might have been doing wrong? It was the
same things I did on my wife's 32-bit Windows, where it worked fine.


--
Ken Blake

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Ken Blake" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:41:42 -0400, "SC Tom" > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Ken Blake" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:09:31 -0000, "Dave-UK" > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >> > Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
>> >> > that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite
>> >> > games, I
>> >> > believe they will have a winner.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
>> >> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yes, but this works in 32-bit Windows 8, but not in 64-bit Windows 8.
>> >
>> > Ken
>> >
>> Nope, works great in 64-bit Win8 Pro. I already did it 3 or 4 days ago.
>
>
> That's good to hear. But it didn't work here. The hex editor couldn't
> find the characters to edit. And Mellowed said the same thing.
>
> Any suggestions as to what I might have been doing wrong? It was the
> same things I did on my wife's 32-bit Windows, where it worked fine.
>

I used the Game Patcher in the link on howtogeek. Also, the Microsoft Game
folder has to go in Program Files instead of Program Files(X86). I have
Solitaire, Spider Solitaire, and FreeCell on mine, and they all work as they
did in Win 7.
--
SC Tom

[Sam Hill]

Nil wrote:

> Sam Hill wrote:
>> Candidate for the killfile then? That's where inconsiderate people
>> belong.
>
> No, not for me. He knows his **** and I'd like to hear what he has to
> say, so I'll glance at his posts in case they're readable, as they
> sometimes are (if they are the first or only response.) Most often,
> though, they're incomprehensibly garbled, so I just move on.
>
> Killfiles are for annoyances. His posts are merely disappointing.

I'll agree with that second statement if you leave out "merely." You'd
think an "mvp" would take some pride in his work. :-/

--
sam

[Mellowed[_2_]]

On 11/1/2012 4:40 PM, SC Tom wrote:
>
>
> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 11/1/2012 1:59 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
>>>
>>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 11/1/2012 12:09 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
>>>>>> that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games,
>>>>>> I believe they will have a winner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
>>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Dave,
>>>> I read this with interest. But, I think I have a problem in
>>>> implementing the changes.
>>>>
>>>> My only Win7 copy is now the Win8. I have Vista 32bit, but the
>>>> Win7/Win8 is 64 bit. I doubt that I can copy/paste a 32 bit DLL from
>>>> my 32 bit Vista into a 64 bit machine. Please confirm.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>
>>> The 32 bit dll goes into the relevant card games sub-folder.
>>> Then the Microsoft Games folder is put into the Program Files (x86)
>>> folder on a 64 bit machine.
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks Dave, I just now found that when I expanded the Windows.old
>> folder. I'm now going to locate a Hex Editor. Should be no problem
>> as in the old days (before retiring) I used HEX on occasion.
>
> I had mentioned that in my reply to you earlier. Also, if you'll look a
> little over half the way down the page on the article, you'll find a
> download link for the Game Patcher, so you don't need to do any hex
> editing. Works great!
After working most of the day on this issue, Game Patcher FIXED the
problem. Win7 games now work on Win8

Many thanks SC for your persistance in showing me the solution.

[Mellowed[_2_]]

On 11/1/2012 5:01 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:28:42 -0700, Mellowed > wrote:
>
>> On 11/1/2012 2:22 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:09:31 -0000, "Dave-UK" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message ...
>>>>
>>>>> Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
>>>>> that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite games, I
>>>>> believe they will have a winner.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, but this works in 32-bit Windows 8, but not in 64-bit Windows 8.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>> Maybe that's why I'm having trouble. I also can't find the right Byte
>> sequence in the Hex Editor.
>
>
> Yes, that's the same thing that happened to me with 64-bit Windows 8.
> But it worked fine on my wife's 32-bit machine.
>
>
Ken, I tried the Game Patcher suggested by SC Tom and it did fix the
problem. I now have Win7 games working on Win8 64 bit.

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Mellowed" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/1/2012 4:40 PM, SC Tom wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 11/1/2012 1:59 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 11/1/2012 12:09 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mellowed" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, If Microsoft will repackage Win8 for a desktop, i.e. get rid of
>>>>>>> that stupid tablet interface, and reinstall my Wife's favorite
>>>>>>> games,
>>>>>>> I believe they will have a winner.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
>>>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Dave,
>>>>> I read this with interest. But, I think I have a problem in
>>>>> implementing the changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> My only Win7 copy is now the Win8. I have Vista 32bit, but the
>>>>> Win7/Win8 is 64 bit. I doubt that I can copy/paste a 32 bit DLL from
>>>>> my 32 bit Vista into a 64 bit machine. Please confirm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The 32 bit dll goes into the relevant card games sub-folder.
>>>> Then the Microsoft Games folder is put into the Program Files (x86)
>>>> folder on a 64 bit machine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks Dave, I just now found that when I expanded the Windows.old
>>> folder. I'm now going to locate a Hex Editor. Should be no problem
>>> as in the old days (before retiring) I used HEX on occasion.
>>
>> I had mentioned that in my reply to you earlier. Also, if you'll look a
>> little over half the way down the page on the article, you'll find a
>> download link for the Game Patcher, so you don't need to do any hex
>> editing. Works great!
> After working most of the day on this issue, Game Patcher FIXED the
> problem. Win7 games now work on Win8
>
> Many thanks SC for your persistance in showing me the solution.
>
You're very welcome. Glad it worked for you (her), too :-)
--
SC Tom

[Tom Lake]

>
>There's probably lots of it around as elderly people's operating systems
>don't get regular updates.

By "it" do you mean marriage, sex or solitaire?
In my case the first and third ruin the second.

--
Tom L

[Robin Bignall]

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 08:35:19 -0400, "Tom Lake" >
wrote:

>>
>>There's probably lots of it around as elderly people's operating systems
>>don't get regular updates.
>
>By "it" do you mean marriage, sex or solitaire?
>In my case the first and third ruin the second.

Such is life <sigh>
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England

[Ken Blake[_4_]]

On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:33:58 -0400, "SC Tom" > wrote:

>
>
> "Ken Blake" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:41:42 -0400, "SC Tom" > wrote:
> >

> >> >> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
> >> >> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yes, but this works in 32-bit Windows 8, but not in 64-bit Windows 8.
> >> >
> >> > Ken
> >> >
> >> Nope, works great in 64-bit Win8 Pro. I already did it 3 or 4 days ago.
> >
> >
> > That's good to hear. But it didn't work here. The hex editor couldn't
> > find the characters to edit. And Mellowed said the same thing.
> >
> > Any suggestions as to what I might have been doing wrong? It was the
> > same things I did on my wife's 32-bit Windows, where it worked fine.
> >
>
> I used the Game Patcher in the link on howtogeek. Also, the Microsoft Game
> folder has to go in Program Files instead of Program Files(X86). I have
> Solitaire, Spider Solitaire, and FreeCell on mine, and they all work as they
> did in Win 7.



I just tried again, doing the same things I had tried before. Don't
ask me what was different, but it worked this time!

Thanks.


--
Ken Blake

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 08:35:19 -0400, Tom Lake wrote:

>>
>>There's probably lots of it around as elderly people's operating systems
>>don't get regular updates.
>
> By "it" do you mean marriage, sex or solitaire?
> In my case the first and third ruin the second.

Well, at least I don't play solitaire, FWIW.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:30:40 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:33:58 -0400, "SC Tom" > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Ken Blake" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:41:42 -0400, "SC Tom" > wrote:
>>>
>
>>>> >> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
>>>> >> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes, but this works in 32-bit Windows 8, but not in 64-bit Windows 8.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ken
>>>> >
>>>> Nope, works great in 64-bit Win8 Pro. I already did it 3 or 4 days ago.
>>>
>>>
>>> That's good to hear. But it didn't work here. The hex editor couldn't
>>> find the characters to edit. And Mellowed said the same thing.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions as to what I might have been doing wrong? It was the
>>> same things I did on my wife's 32-bit Windows, where it worked fine.
>>>
>>
>> I used the Game Patcher in the link on howtogeek. Also, the Microsoft Game
>> folder has to go in Program Files instead of Program Files(X86). I have
>> Solitaire, Spider Solitaire, and FreeCell on mine, and they all work as they
>> did in Win 7.
>
> I just tried again, doing the same things I had tried before. Don't
> ask me what was different, but it worked this time!
>
> Thanks.

Moon phase? Barometric pressure? Relative humidity?

I hate it when that sort of thing happens, not because I hate things
that work, but because I want to know what the problem was and how it
got fixed.

But at least it's working for you. That isn't such a bad thing...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Ken Blake[_4_]]

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:38:18 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
> wrote:

> On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:30:40 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:33:58 -0400, "SC Tom" > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Ken Blake" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:41:42 -0400, "SC Tom" > wrote:
> >>>
> >
> >>>> >> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
> >>>> >> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Yes, but this works in 32-bit Windows 8, but not in 64-bit Windows 8.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Ken
> >>>> >
> >>>> Nope, works great in 64-bit Win8 Pro. I already did it 3 or 4 days ago.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That's good to hear. But it didn't work here. The hex editor couldn't
> >>> find the characters to edit. And Mellowed said the same thing.
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions as to what I might have been doing wrong? It was the
> >>> same things I did on my wife's 32-bit Windows, where it worked fine.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I used the Game Patcher in the link on howtogeek. Also, the Microsoft Game
> >> folder has to go in Program Files instead of Program Files(X86). I have
> >> Solitaire, Spider Solitaire, and FreeCell on mine, and they all work as they
> >> did in Win 7.
> >
> > I just tried again, doing the same things I had tried before. Don't
> > ask me what was different, but it worked this time!
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> Moon phase? Barometric pressure? Relative humidity?
>
> I hate it when that sort of thing happens, not because I hate things
> that work, but because I want to know what the problem was and how it
> got fixed.


Me too!


> But at least it's working for you. That isn't such a bad thing...


Not bad, but not wonderful either. To tell the truth, I hardly ever
play these (or any other) games. I just was interested in making it
work.



--
Ken Blake

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 12:11:04 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:38:18 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
> > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:30:40 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:33:58 -0400, "SC Tom" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Ken Blake" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:41:42 -0400, "SC Tom" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> >> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
>>>>>> >> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Yes, but this works in 32-bit Windows 8, but not in 64-bit Windows 8.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Ken
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Nope, works great in 64-bit Win8 Pro. I already did it 3 or 4 days ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's good to hear. But it didn't work here. The hex editor couldn't
>>>>> find the characters to edit. And Mellowed said the same thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions as to what I might have been doing wrong? It was the
>>>>> same things I did on my wife's 32-bit Windows, where it worked fine.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I used the Game Patcher in the link on howtogeek. Also, the Microsoft Game
>>>> folder has to go in Program Files instead of Program Files(X86). I have
>>>> Solitaire, Spider Solitaire, and FreeCell on mine, and they all work as they
>>>> did in Win 7.
>>>
>>> I just tried again, doing the same things I had tried before. Don't
>>> ask me what was different, but it worked this time!
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> Moon phase? Barometric pressure? Relative humidity?
>>
>> I hate it when that sort of thing happens, not because I hate things
>> that work, but because I want to know what the problem was and how it
>> got fixed.
>
> Me too!
>
>> But at least it's working for you. That isn't such a bad thing...
>
> Not bad, but not wonderful either. To tell the truth, I hardly ever
> play these (or any other) games. I just was interested in making it
> work.

I had to laugh at that. Not laughing at you, but at me for recognizing
that feeling all too well.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Ken Blake" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:38:18 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
> > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:30:40 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:33:58 -0400, "SC Tom" > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Ken Blake" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:41:42 -0400, "SC Tom" > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >
>> >>>> >> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
>> >>>> >> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Yes, but this works in 32-bit Windows 8, but not in 64-bit Windows
>> >>>> > 8.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Ken
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> Nope, works great in 64-bit Win8 Pro. I already did it 3 or 4 days
>> >>>> ago.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> That's good to hear. But it didn't work here. The hex editor couldn't
>> >>> find the characters to edit. And Mellowed said the same thing.
>> >>>
>> >>> Any suggestions as to what I might have been doing wrong? It was the
>> >>> same things I did on my wife's 32-bit Windows, where it worked fine.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> I used the Game Patcher in the link on howtogeek. Also, the Microsoft
>> >> Game
>> >> folder has to go in Program Files instead of Program Files(X86). I
>> >> have
>> >> Solitaire, Spider Solitaire, and FreeCell on mine, and they all work
>> >> as they
>> >> did in Win 7.
>> >
>> > I just tried again, doing the same things I had tried before. Don't
>> > ask me what was different, but it worked this time!
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>>
>> Moon phase? Barometric pressure? Relative humidity?
>>
>> I hate it when that sort of thing happens, not because I hate things
>> that work, but because I want to know what the problem was and how it
>> got fixed.
>
>
> Me too!
>
>
>> But at least it's working for you. That isn't such a bad thing...
>
>
> Not bad, but not wonderful either. To tell the truth, I hardly ever
> play these (or any other) games. I just was interested in making it
> work.
>
We all love a challenge, don't we? :-) Now, if someone asks, you can say
"Yep, I got it to work."

I have decided I really don't care if Win8 works or not; it was more of the
challenge to make it work the way *I* wanted it to work :-) Eventually,
I'll probably pull that drive and go back to good ol' Win7. Or not . . .
--
SC Tom

[Ken Blake[_4_]]

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 12:45:54 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
> wrote:

> On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 12:11:04 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

> >> But at least it's working for you. That isn't such a bad thing...
> >
> > Not bad, but not wonderful either. To tell the truth, I hardly ever
> > play these (or any other) games. I just was interested in making it
> > work.
>
> I had to laugh at that. Not laughing at you, but at me for recognizing
> that feeling all too well.


We are alike in many ways. ;-)


--
Ken Blake

[..winston]

It was a lot easier to access the same using the Windows 8 provided app.....you didn't have to use them either.

--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Ken Blake" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:38:18 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
> wrote:

> On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:30:40 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:33:58 -0400, "SC Tom" > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Ken Blake" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:41:42 -0400, "SC Tom" > wrote:
> >>>
> >
> >>>> >> If you really want to install Win7 games there's a guide here.:
> >>>> >> http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Yes, but this works in 32-bit Windows 8, but not in 64-bit Windows 8.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Ken
> >>>> >
> >>>> Nope, works great in 64-bit Win8 Pro. I already did it 3 or 4 days ago.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That's good to hear. But it didn't work here. The hex editor couldn't
> >>> find the characters to edit. And Mellowed said the same thing.
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions as to what I might have been doing wrong? It was the
> >>> same things I did on my wife's 32-bit Windows, where it worked fine.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I used the Game Patcher in the link on howtogeek. Also, the Microsoft Game
> >> folder has to go in Program Files instead of Program Files(X86). I have
> >> Solitaire, Spider Solitaire, and FreeCell on mine, and they all work as they
> >> did in Win 7.
> >
> > I just tried again, doing the same things I had tried before. Don't
> > ask me what was different, but it worked this time!
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> Moon phase? Barometric pressure? Relative humidity?
>
> I hate it when that sort of thing happens, not because I hate things
> that work, but because I want to know what the problem was and how it
> got fixed.


Me too!


> But at least it's working for you. That isn't such a bad thing...


Not bad, but not wonderful either. To tell the truth, I hardly ever
play these (or any other) games. I just was interested in making it
work.



--
Ken Blake