Windows 8 and Acronis

[Peter Roe]

This is annoying...paid good money earlier this year to upgrade to Acronis
TrueImage 2012 - and the windows 8 setup wizard now tells me I have to uninstall
it as it won't work with windows 8.

The Acronis website promises an update "some time in the future".

Now that's just Wrong. How long have we known windows 8 was coming for? Are
Acronis asleep, or planning to charge for an "upgrade" - or is MS trying to
force their own backup on us?

Time, as they say, will tell...

[charlie[_2_]]

On 11/6/2012 5:20 AM, Peter Roe wrote:
> This is annoying...paid good money earlier this year to upgrade to
> Acronis TrueImage 2012 - and the windows 8 setup wizard now tells me I
> have to uninstall it as it won't work with windows 8.
>
> The Acronis website promises an update "some time in the future".
>
> Now that's just Wrong. How long have we known windows 8 was coming for?
> Are Acronis asleep, or planning to charge for an "upgrade" - or is MS
> trying to force their own backup on us?
>
> Time, as they say, will tell...
>
Acronis likes to charge for "meaningful" updates.
I gave up on it after several best forgotten problems.
Ghost was another one.

These days, I would likely use Linux from a bootable CD,
and see how that works out with win 8, assuming that something included
in win 8 could not get the job done.

[FD[_4_]]

>
> The Acronis website promises an update "some time in the future".
>
> Now that's just Wrong. How long have we known windows 8 was coming for? Are Acronis asleep, or planning to charge for an "upgrade" - or is MS trying
> to force their own backup on us?

I had to upgrade to 2013 and can only use it on one computer as activation has been tigtened up.
The price I paid for the full version was more than what I paid for windows 8

I then discovered EaseUS

http://www.easeus.com/?gclid=CIPV4tmeurMCFYZaMgodOgwAkg

I was thrilled with it as it looked very elegant.

When I restored an image from D to C with the CD it worked but my D partition
got wiped out!

I purchased Paragon Backup at a discounted price.

However I missed the elegance and reliability of Acronis and bought 2 more licences at
29 dollars each.

FD

[XS11E]

Peter Roe > wrote:

> This is annoying...paid good money earlier this year to upgrade to
> Acronis TrueImage 2012 - and the windows 8 setup wizard now tells
> me I have to uninstall it as it won't work with windows 8.

Uninstall it and then reinstall it in Windows 8, it may work.



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[mechanic]

On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 06:02:57 -0500, charlie wrote:

> These days, I would likely use Linux from a bootable CD, and see
> how that works out with win 8, assuming that something included
> in win 8 could not get the job done.

Clonezilla works fine with any file system, but has a couple of
disadvantages - I find Redo faster and more flexible. Neither of
course will allow the recovery of individual files from the backed
up image(es).

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Peter Roe" > wrote in message
o.uk...
> This is annoying...paid good money earlier this year to upgrade to Acronis
> TrueImage 2012 - and the windows 8 setup wizard now tells me I have to
> uninstall it as it won't work with windows 8.
>
> The Acronis website promises an update "some time in the future".
>
> Now that's just Wrong. How long have we known windows 8 was coming for?
> Are Acronis asleep, or planning to charge for an "upgrade" - or is MS
> trying to force their own backup on us?
>
> Time, as they say, will tell...
>

I've had Acronis 2010 Home since 2009, and haven't had it installed since
shortly after purchasing it. Using the install CD as a boot CD, it has
served me well with XP, Vista, Win7, and Win8, 32 and 64 bit versions.
By booting from the CD, I can create a disk image in a short period of time
and not worry about whether or not it will install. I can create an 85GB
image in ~45 minutes, and restore that image in about the same length of
time (maybe just a little longer).
I just did a complete image restore yesterday on my Acer with Win8 with 3
partitions (System, Boot, and factory recovery), and it took about an hour.
I had a larger drive I wanted it all on, and for some reason, cloning
wouldn't work (although it has on the past with other machines). I think
maybe the recovery partition may have something to do with it; not real sure
and don't really care since the image restore worked just fine.
--
SC Tom

[dweebken[_2_]]

On 06-Nov-12 9:20 PM, Peter Roe wrote:
> This is annoying...paid good money earlier this year to upgrade to
> Acronis TrueImage 2012 - and the windows 8 setup wizard now tells me I
> have to uninstall it as it won't work with windows 8.
>
> The Acronis website promises an update "some time in the future".
>
> Now that's just Wrong. How long have we known windows 8 was coming for?
> Are Acronis asleep, or planning to charge for an "upgrade" - or is MS
> trying to force their own backup on us?
>
> Time, as they say, will tell...
>
Did you check when you bought it if it had W8 support? I don't think
anybody guarantees their software against future OS upgrades. And as you
might guess, ATI 2012 actually came out in 2011 sometime - I purchased
that version on 24 August 2011 myself. I think you'll find this was B4
W8 evaluation vergins were available to toy with, and by no means was
the design of W8 tied down to anything then.

I've now upgraded to ATI Home 2013 for under $40 here:
http://www.acronis.com.au/homecomputing/products/trueimage/
Runs fine in Windows 8 Pro (Retail Boxed version)
Already cloned my W8 installation drive and made regular backups with it
too.

[John Doe]

Use Macrium Reflect for making backup copies of your Windows (plus
programs) partition. With the free version... You can make backups
from within Windows, quickly. Restoring requires the CD and more
time, but restores happen much less frequently. And you can
retrieve files from an archive from within Windows. It's just
excellent for making incremental copies of your new installation.

I've been cloning the windows partition since Windows 95.
Macrium Reflect is the easiest and most functional.

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Peter Roe <seasidepeter nothere.co.uk> wrote:

> This is annoying...paid good money earlier this year to upgrade
> to Acronis TrueImage 2012 - and the windows 8 setup wizard now
> tells me I have to uninstall it as it won't work with windows 8.
>
> The Acronis website promises an update "some time in the
> future".
>
> Now that's just Wrong. How long have we known windows 8 was
> coming for? Are Acronis asleep, or planning to charge for an
> "upgrade" - or is MS trying to force their own backup on us?
>
> Time, as they say, will tell...
>

[Joe]

Free Paragon did just fine here.

"John Doe" wrote in message ...

Use Macrium Reflect for making backup copies of your Windows (plus
programs) partition. With the free version... You can make backups
from within Windows, quickly. Restoring requires the CD and more
time, but restores happen much less frequently. And you can
retrieve files from an archive from within Windows. It's just
excellent for making incremental copies of your new installation.

I've been cloning the windows partition since Windows 95.
Macrium Reflect is the easiest and most functional.

--

Peter Roe <seasidepeter nothere.co.uk> wrote:

> This is annoying...paid good money earlier this year to upgrade
> to Acronis TrueImage 2012 - and the windows 8 setup wizard now
> tells me I have to uninstall it as it won't work with windows 8.
>
> The Acronis website promises an update "some time in the
> future".
>
> Now that's just Wrong. How long have we known windows 8 was
> coming for? Are Acronis asleep, or planning to charge for an
> "upgrade" - or is MS trying to force their own backup on us?
>
> Time, as they say, will tell...
>

[Ed Cryer]

Joe wrote:
>
>
>
> Free Paragon did just fine here.
>

When I did a Win7 >> 8 upgrade test using one of the pre-release
versions of Win8, it refused Paragon; said it was incompatible. That was
about the only thing it refused.
Reading about Acronis in this thread I was concluding that it was
refusing quite a few image-making software; maybe the whole lot, in
order to prevent restores with them.
Nice to know that suspicion is proved untrue.

Ed

[VanguardLH[_2_]]

"Peter Roe" wrote:

> This is annoying...paid good money earlier this year to upgrade to Acronis
> TrueImage 2012 - and the windows 8 setup wizard now tells me I have to uninstall
> it as it won't work with windows 8.
>
> The Acronis website promises an update "some time in the future".
>
> Now that's just Wrong. How long have we known windows 8 was coming for? Are
> Acronis asleep, or planning to charge for an "upgrade" - or is MS trying to
> force their own backup on us?
>
> Time, as they say, will tell...

Many software vendors have been burned several times by relying on
alpha, beta, and preview releases under which to test their products
where they worked only to have Microsoft yank the rug out from under
them by making a significant change in the release version that renders
their product unusable or crippled. So many now wait until Microsoft
actually releases Windows so they actually have a known quantity against
which they can code their product. They're done with wasting their
resources trying to sync the release of their compatible version when
Microsoft makes changes that screw them over. It costs money to
allocate resources for concurrent development only to have that effort
and cost trashed because the other party made incompatible changes.
Instead they wait until Microsoft actually releases something forcing a
commital to a base code level, then they develop against a known entity.

When did Acronis release version 2012 of TrueImage? August 2011. And
when did Microsoft release Windows 8? October 2012. That's more than a
year later when Windows 8 showed up (see above why many software vendors
no longer aim at a moving target due to the cost). Similarly, you
expect a current release of a product to support hardware that won't
show up until sometime later? I've heard ATI 2012 doesn't support the
Intel x79/c600 chipsets that came out AFTER the release of ATI 2012.

So "earlier this year" you had no clue that you would get impelled to
migrate to Windows 8? What did Windows 8 give you that is a critical
requirement that obviated the use of your current and working setup?
Did you see Windows 8 listed as a supported platform for TrueImage 2012?
ATI 2012 does list Windows 8 as a supported platform. Since you choose
to expend both the effort and expense of upgrading the OS platform,
guess now you'll have to decide whether or not to do the same with your
utility suite.