Norton Anti Virus?

[[email protected]]

I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
than a full version.

I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
kind.

Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon

[Dave-UK]

> wrote in message ...
> I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
> Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
> installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
> with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
> than a full version.
>
> I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
> software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
> kind.
>
> Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon

You were advised you to get rid of Norton in the Windows 7 newsgroup and my advice
is the same with Windows 8, get rid of Norton. You already have Microsoft's antivirus, Defender,
installed as part of Windows 8. You don't need to spend any more money on antivirus software.

[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

wrote:
> I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove
> Symantec Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software
> that came installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some
> problems with it but these may be the result of this trial version
> being less than a full version.
>
> I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
> software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of
> some kind.
>
> Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon

You are infected with a serious virus that will rob you of speed,
memory, and functionality. It is called "Norton Antivirus." I suggest
you rid your computer of this disease immediately.

Well, you asked for opinions.
--
Crash

"The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do."
~ B. F. Skinner ~

[Alias[_43_]]

On 11/18/2012 2:36 PM, wrote:
> I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
> Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
> installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
> with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
> than a full version.
>
> I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
> software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
> kind.
>
> Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>

Use
thishttps://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?ct=us&lg=en&product=home&pvid=f-home&reflang=NLNL&version=1&docid=kb20080710133024EN_EndUserProfile_en_us
to remove Norton.

--
Alias

[Alias[_43_]]

On 11/18/2012 4:17 PM, Alias wrote:
> On 11/18/2012 2:36 PM, wrote:
>> I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>> Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>> installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>> with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>> than a full version.
>>
>> I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>> software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>> kind.
>>
>> Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>>
>
> Use
> thishttps://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?ct=us&lg=en&product=home&pvid=f-home&reflang=NLNL&version=1&docid=kb20080710133024EN_EndUserProfile_en_us
> to remove Norton.
>

Oops, here's a clickable url:

https://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?ct=us&lg=en&product=home&pvid=f-home&reflang=NLNL&version=1&docid=kb20080710133024EN_EndUserProfile_en_us

--
Alias

[Stephen Wolstenholme[_2_]]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:19 -0600, wrote:

>I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>than a full version.
>
>I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>kind.
>
>Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon

I got the same Symantec product with a HP system. IMO the stuff causes
problems so I removed it.

Steve

--
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SwingNN. Forecast with Neural Networks. http://www.swingnn.com
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[FDK]

>Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon

Windows Security Essentials. If you use it, turn off Windows
Defender. It's a memory hog.

[Gordon]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:12:43 -0000, "Dave-UK" > wrote:

>
> wrote in message ...
>> I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>> Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>> installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>> with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>> than a full version.
>>
>> I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>> software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>> kind.
>>
>> Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>
>You were advised you to get rid of Norton in the Windows 7 newsgroup and my advice
>is the same with Windows 8, get rid of Norton. You already have Microsoft's antivirus, Defender,
>installed as part of Windows 8. You don't need to spend any more money on antivirus software.
>
Dave, I'm not sure MS antivirus of any kind was installed by the
manufacturer on this new computer. I have not installed any antivirus
software but Norton Trial Version came with the new computer.

I'll check again and see if Windows Security Essentials or anything
similar is installed. Gordon

[Gordon]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:14:46 -0500, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
> wrote:

wrote:
>> I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove
>> Symantec Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software
>> that came installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some
>> problems with it but these may be the result of this trial version
>> being less than a full version.
>>
>> I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>> software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of
>> some kind.
>>
>> Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>
>You are infected with a serious virus that will rob you of speed,
>memory, and functionality. It is called "Norton Antivirus." I suggest
>you rid your computer of this disease immediately.
>
>Well, you asked for opinions.
>
Okay, I'll work toward getting rid of Norton and replacing it with
Windows Security Essentials. Can I remove Norton by means of the
"Remove Software" function in Control Panel or should I use some other
means for cleaning up the Norton mess? Gordon

[Gordon]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:17:47 +0100, Alias
> wrote:

>On 11/18/2012 4:17 PM, Alias wrote:
>> On 11/18/2012 2:36 PM, wrote:
>>> I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>>> Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>>> installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>>> with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>>> than a full version.
>>>
>>> I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>>> software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>>> kind.
>>>
>>> Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>>>
>>
>> Use
>> thishttps://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?ct=us&lg=en&product=home&pvid=f-home&reflang=NLNL&version=1&docid=kb20080710133024EN_EndUserProfile_en_us
>> to remove Norton.
>>
>
>Oops, here's a clickable url:
>
>https://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?ct=us&lg=en&product=home&pvid=f-home&reflang=NLNL&version=1&docid=kb20080710133024EN_EndUserProfile_en_us
>
I'm looking into means for removing Norton and all its clutter. Will
the "Remove Software" function in Control Panel do this or should I
use the process provided by the above link? Gordon

[Gordon]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:37:03 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
> wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:19 -0600, wrote:
>
>>I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>>Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>>installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>>with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>>than a full version.
>>
>>I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>>software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>>kind.
>>
>>Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>
>I got the same Symantec product with a HP system. IMO the stuff causes
>problems so I removed it.
>
>Steve
>
Steve, I'm headed in the same direction. Did you use the Control Panel
Remove Programs function or did you use some on-line removal tool?

Gordon

[Alias[_43_]]

On 11/18/2012 5:04 PM, Gordon wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:17:47 +0100, Alias
> > wrote:
>
>> On 11/18/2012 4:17 PM, Alias wrote:
>>> On 11/18/2012 2:36 PM, wrote:
>>>> I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>>>> Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>>>> installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>>>> with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>>>> than a full version.
>>>>
>>>> I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>>>> software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>>>> kind.
>>>>
>>>> Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>>>>
>>>
>>> Use
>>> thishttps://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?ct=us&lg=en&product=home&pvid=f-home&reflang=NLNL&version=1&docid=kb20080710133024EN_EndUserProfile_en_us
>>> to remove Norton.
>>>
>>
>> Oops, here's a clickable url:
>>
>> https://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?ct=us&lg=en&product=home&pvid=f-home&reflang=NLNL&version=1&docid=kb20080710133024EN_EndUserProfile_en_us
>>
> I'm looking into means for removing Norton and all its clutter. Will
> the "Remove Software" function in Control Panel do this or should I
> use the process provided by the above link? Gordon
>

Use the above link.

--
Alias

[Robin Bignall]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:05:54 -0600, Gordon > wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:37:03 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:19 -0600, wrote:
>>
>>>I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>>>Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>>>installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>>>with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>>>than a full version.
>>>
>>>I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>>>software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>>>kind.
>>>
>>>Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>>
>>I got the same Symantec product with a HP system. IMO the stuff causes
>>problems so I removed it.
>>
>>Steve
>>
>Steve, I'm headed in the same direction. Did you use the Control Panel
>Remove Programs function or did you use some on-line removal tool?
>
No, add/delete programs does not clear Norton completely from your
system; that's yet another objection to it. Somewhere on
Norton/Symantic site there's a program that removes everything
Norton-ish from the system. It may be the one given upthread a little.
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England

[Stephen Wolstenholme[_2_]]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:05:54 -0600, Gordon >
wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:37:03 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:19 -0600, wrote:
>>
>>>I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>>>Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>>>installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>>>with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>>>than a full version.
>>>
>>>I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>>>software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>>>kind.
>>>
>>>Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>>
>>I got the same Symantec product with a HP system. IMO the stuff causes
>>problems so I removed it.
>>
>>Steve
>>
>Steve, I'm headed in the same direction. Did you use the Control Panel
>Remove Programs function or did you use some on-line removal tool?
>
>Gordon

I used the uninstall software supplied by Symantec. It was a while
ago. I think the HP software was a problem as well but I can't
remember why.

Steve

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[Dave-UK]

"Gordon" > wrote in message ...
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:12:43 -0000, "Dave-UK" > wrote:
>
>>
> wrote in message ...
>>> I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>>> Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>>> installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>>> with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>>> than a full version.
>>>
>>> I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>>> software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>>> kind.
>>>
>>> Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>>
>>You were advised you to get rid of Norton in the Windows 7 newsgroup and my advice
>>is the same with Windows 8, get rid of Norton. You already have Microsoft's antivirus, Defender,
>>installed as part of Windows 8. You don't need to spend any more money on antivirus software.
>>
> Dave, I'm not sure MS antivirus of any kind was installed by the
> manufacturer on this new computer. I have not installed any antivirus
> software but Norton Trial Version came with the new computer.
>
> I'll check again and see if Windows Security Essentials or anything
> similar is installed. Gordon

Microsoft Security Essentials is for Windows 7 and below, not for Windows 8.
Windows Defender is the Microsoft antivirus and antimalware program for Windows 8.
As I have said, Windows Defender is already on your computer - it is part of Windows 8.
All you need to do is get rid of Norton, and don't install any other antivirus software.

[Dave-UK]

"FDK" > wrote in message ...
>
>
>
>>Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>
> Windows Security Essentials. If you use it, turn off Windows
> Defender. It's a memory hog.
>

Microsoft security Essentials is not supported on Windows 8.
Look at the Key Features - "Supports Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows XP"

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows/security-essentials-download

Windows Defender is the Microsoft antivirus that is part of Windows 8.
Windows Defender is not the same as the previous Defender, which was
just an antimalware program.

[Alias[_43_]]

On 11/18/2012 5:59 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
> Windows Defender is the Microsoft antivirus that is part of Windows 8.

Can it be uninstalled and replaced by another anti virus program?

--
Alias

[Gordon]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:18:42 +0100, Alias
> wrote:

>On 11/18/2012 5:04 PM, Gordon wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:17:47 +0100, Alias
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/18/2012 4:17 PM, Alias wrote:
>>>> On 11/18/2012 2:36 PM, wrote:
>>>>> I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>>>>> Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>>>>> installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>>>>> with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>>>>> than a full version.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>>>>> software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>>>>> kind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Use
>>>> thishttps://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?ct=us&lg=en&product=home&pvid=f-home&reflang=NLNL&version=1&docid=kb20080710133024EN_EndUserProfile_en_us
>>>> to remove Norton.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oops, here's a clickable url:
>>>
>>> https://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?ct=us&lg=en&product=home&pvid=f-home&reflang=NLNL&version=1&docid=kb20080710133024EN_EndUserProfile_en_us
>>>
>> I'm looking into means for removing Norton and all its clutter. Will
>> the "Remove Software" function in Control Panel do this or should I
>> use the process provided by the above link? Gordon
>>
>
>Use the above link.
>
Dave, I've tried downloading, saving to my desktop, then running this
removal tool but it won't start, for some reason. It goes through the
start process to the point of aking if I want to allow this probram to
run. When I select Yes, it blinks and dissappears. Are you sure it can
run on a Windows 8 60 bit computer? Gordon

[Gordon]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:48:11 -0000, "Dave-UK" > wrote:

>
>"Gordon" > wrote in message ...
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:12:43 -0000, "Dave-UK" > wrote:
>>
>>>
> wrote in message ...
>>>> I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>>>> Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>>>> installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>>>> with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>>>> than a full version.
>>>>
>>>> I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>>>> software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>>>> kind.
>>>>
>>>> Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>>>
>>>You were advised you to get rid of Norton in the Windows 7 newsgroup and my advice
>>>is the same with Windows 8, get rid of Norton. You already have Microsoft's antivirus, Defender,
>>>installed as part of Windows 8. You don't need to spend any more money on antivirus software.
>>>
>> Dave, I'm not sure MS antivirus of any kind was installed by the
>> manufacturer on this new computer. I have not installed any antivirus
>> software but Norton Trial Version came with the new computer.
>>
>> I'll check again and see if Windows Security Essentials or anything
>> similar is installed. Gordon
>
>Microsoft Security Essentials is for Windows 7 and below, not for Windows 8.
>Windows Defender is the Microsoft antivirus and antimalware program for Windows 8.
>As I have said, Windows Defender is already on your computer - it is part of Windows 8.
>All you need to do is get rid of Norton, and don't install any other antivirus software.
>
I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon

[Joe Morris]

"Gordon" > wrote:

> I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
> computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
> operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
> figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon

Have you tried the "Programs and features" control panel?

Also...your posting did not say if the computer was delivered from HP with
Windows 8 installed, or with Windows 7 and you've installed Windows 8 as an
upgrade. Especially if the latter is the case, there's a good chance that
the version of Norton Antivirus (irrespective of its reputation) isn't
compatible with Windows 8. I have no experience with the Norton-branded
products (so I don't know when or if a Win8-compatible version of NAV
is/will be available), but the Windows 8-compatible production build of the
enterprise AV package (under the Symantec brand) was just released a couple
of days ago, fixing problems that made the earlier builds unusable on Win8.

Joe

[[email protected]]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:08:38 -0500, "Joe Morris"
> wrote:

>"Gordon" > wrote:
>
>> I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
>> computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
>> operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
>> figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon
>
>Have you tried the "Programs and features" control panel?
>
Yes, I've tried the "Programs and Features" approach but got no
results.
>
>Also...your posting did not say if the computer was delivered from HP with
>Windows 8 installed, or with Windows 7 and you've installed Windows 8 as an
>upgrade. Especially if the latter is the case, there's a good chance that
>the version of Norton Antivirus (irrespective of its reputation) isn't
>compatible with Windows 8. I have no experience with the Norton-branded
>products (so I don't know when or if a Win8-compatible version of NAV
>is/will be available), but the Windows 8-compatible production build of the
>enterprise AV package (under the Symantec brand) was just released a couple
>of days ago, fixing problems that made the earlier builds unusable on Win8.
>
>Joe
>
I bought this computer from Staples, still in the box and it did have
Windows 7 and Norton installed by the manufacturer.

Gordon

[Dave-UK]

"Alias" > wrote in message ...
> On 11/18/2012 5:59 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
>> Windows Defender is the Microsoft antivirus that is part of Windows 8.
>
> Can it be uninstalled and replaced by another anti virus program?
>
> --
> Alias

I don't know. I've not bothered to try.

[Gene E. Bloch[_5_]]

On 11/18/2012, Gordon posted:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:48:11 -0000, "Dave-UK" > wrote:

>>
>> "Gordon" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:12:43 -0000, "Dave-UK" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>>>>> Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>>>>> installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>>>>> with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>>>>> than a full version.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>>>>> software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>>>>> kind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>>>>
>>>> You were advised you to get rid of Norton in the Windows 7 newsgroup and
>>>> my advice is the same with Windows 8, get rid of Norton. You already have
>>>> Microsoft's antivirus, Defender, installed as part of Windows 8. You
>>>> don't need to spend any more money on antivirus software.
>>>>
>>> Dave, I'm not sure MS antivirus of any kind was installed by the
>>> manufacturer on this new computer. I have not installed any antivirus
>>> software but Norton Trial Version came with the new computer.
>>>
>>> I'll check again and see if Windows Security Essentials or anything
>>> similar is installed. Gordon
>>
>> Microsoft Security Essentials is for Windows 7 and below, not for Windows 8.
>> Windows Defender is the Microsoft antivirus and antimalware program for
>> Windows 8. As I have said, Windows Defender is already on your computer - it
>> is part of Windows 8. All you need to do is get rid of Norton, and don't
>> install any other antivirus software.
>>
> I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
> computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
> operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
> figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon

Typically, to uninstall Norton you have to download an uninstaller from
the Symantec site.

The uninstaller software is:

1. Not necessarily easy to find, and

2. Specific to the version both of Norton software and of Windows that
you are running, so you have to locate the correct one.

I haven't done this for a while, so I have no current or more detailed
info to give you.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Alias[_43_]]

On 11/18/2012 9:56 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
>
> "Alias" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 11/18/2012 5:59 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
>>> Windows Defender is the Microsoft antivirus that is part of Windows 8.
>>
>> Can it be uninstalled and replaced by another anti virus program?

>
> I don't know. I've not bothered to try.
>
>
>
>
>
>

It can be:

http://www.guidingtech.com/10154/disable-windows-8-defender-before-installing-antivirus/

--
Alias

[Dave-UK]

> wrote in message ...
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:08:38 -0500, "Joe Morris"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Gordon" > wrote:
>>
>>> I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
>>> computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
>>> operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
>>> figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon
>>
>>Have you tried the "Programs and features" control panel?
>>
> Yes, I've tried the "Programs and Features" approach but got no
> results.
>>
>>Also...your posting did not say if the computer was delivered from HP with
>>Windows 8 installed, or with Windows 7 and you've installed Windows 8 as an
>>upgrade. Especially if the latter is the case, there's a good chance that
>>the version of Norton Antivirus (irrespective of its reputation) isn't
>>compatible with Windows 8. I have no experience with the Norton-branded
>>products (so I don't know when or if a Win8-compatible version of NAV
>>is/will be available), but the Windows 8-compatible production build of the
>>enterprise AV package (under the Symantec brand) was just released a couple
>>of days ago, fixing problems that made the earlier builds unusable on Win8.
>>
>>Joe
>>
> I bought this computer from Staples, still in the box and it did have
> Windows 7 and Norton installed by the manufacturer.
>
> Gordon

So how did Windows 8 get installed on it ?

[[email protected]]

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:06:56 -0000, "Dave-UK" > wrote:

>
> wrote in message ...
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:08:38 -0500, "Joe Morris"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Gordon" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
>>>> computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
>>>> operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
>>>> figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon
>>>
>>>Have you tried the "Programs and features" control panel?
>>>
>> Yes, I've tried the "Programs and Features" approach but got no
>> results.
>>>
>>>Also...your posting did not say if the computer was delivered from HP with
>>>Windows 8 installed, or with Windows 7 and you've installed Windows 8 as an
>>>upgrade. Especially if the latter is the case, there's a good chance that
>>>the version of Norton Antivirus (irrespective of its reputation) isn't
>>>compatible with Windows 8. I have no experience with the Norton-branded
>>>products (so I don't know when or if a Win8-compatible version of NAV
>>>is/will be available), but the Windows 8-compatible production build of the
>>>enterprise AV package (under the Symantec brand) was just released a couple
>>>of days ago, fixing problems that made the earlier builds unusable on Win8.
>>>
>>>Joe
>>>
>> I bought this computer from Staples, still in the box and it did have
>> Windows 7 and Norton installed by the manufacturer.
>>
>> Gordon
>
>So how did Windows 8 get installed on it ?
>
It was my understanding that the manufacturer, Hewlet Packard,
installed Windiows 8 at the time the computer components were being
assembled. Gordon

[[email protected]]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:11 +0000, Robin Bignall
> wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:05:54 -0600, Gordon > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:37:03 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:19 -0600, wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>>>>Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>>>>installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>>>>with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>>>>than a full version.
>>>>
>>>>I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>>>>software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>>>>kind.
>>>>
>>>>Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>>>
>>>I got the same Symantec product with a HP system. IMO the stuff causes
>>>problems so I removed it.
>>>
>>>Steve
>>>
>>Steve, I'm headed in the same direction. Did you use the Control Panel
>>Remove Programs function or did you use some on-line removal tool?
>>
>No, add/delete programs does not clear Norton completely from your
>system; that's yet another objection to it. Somewhere on
>Norton/Symantic site there's a program that removes everything
>Norton-ish from the system. It may be the one given upthread a little.
>
I finally got my computer restored to an earlier restore point and it
is working very well, again, but it still has Norton installed and I
can't find a workable means for getting it out of the way, totally.
The Norton removal link that was posted earlier in this thread seemed
to work but there were bits and pieces of Norton that showed up on my
computer, after the removal process had been completed. There was a
Norton Start Button in the Task Bar, but it didn't work. There were
Norton lines in some of the other program windows, too.

I did a restore point and everything is working well for the time
being but I still want to remove Norton completely and safely.

Gordon

[Robin Bignall]

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:35:15 -0600, wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:11 +0000, Robin Bignall
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:05:54 -0600, Gordon > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:37:03 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:19 -0600, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>>>>>Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>>>>>installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>>>>>with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>>>>>than a full version.
>>>>>
>>>>>I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>>>>>software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>>>>>kind.
>>>>>
>>>>>Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>>>>
>>>>I got the same Symantec product with a HP system. IMO the stuff causes
>>>>problems so I removed it.
>>>>
>>>>Steve
>>>>
>>>Steve, I'm headed in the same direction. Did you use the Control Panel
>>>Remove Programs function or did you use some on-line removal tool?
>>>
>>No, add/delete programs does not clear Norton completely from your
>>system; that's yet another objection to it. Somewhere on
>>Norton/Symantic site there's a program that removes everything
>>Norton-ish from the system. It may be the one given upthread a little.
>>
>I finally got my computer restored to an earlier restore point and it
>is working very well, again, but it still has Norton installed and I
>can't find a workable means for getting it out of the way, totally.
>The Norton removal link that was posted earlier in this thread seemed
>to work but there were bits and pieces of Norton that showed up on my
>computer, after the removal process had been completed. There was a
>Norton Start Button in the Task Bar, but it didn't work. There were
>Norton lines in some of the other program windows, too.
>
Yes, removing norton/symantic products completely has been a headache
for years. One thing you could try is the Revo uninstaller program.
There is a free version, but I don't know how deep the scans work; I've
got the Pro version.

You can point it to 'norton' and it will display (after some time) every
registry key and file that is associated.

>I did a restore point and everything is working well for the time
>being but I still want to remove Norton completely and safely.
>

--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England

[Alias[_43_]]

On 11/19/2012 3:35 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:11 +0000, Robin Bignall
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:05:54 -0600, Gordon > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:37:03 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:19 -0600, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>>>>> Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>>>>> installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>>>>> with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>>>>> than a full version.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>>>>> software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>>>>> kind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>>>>
>>>> I got the same Symantec product with a HP system. IMO the stuff causes
>>>> problems so I removed it.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>> Steve, I'm headed in the same direction. Did you use the Control Panel
>>> Remove Programs function or did you use some on-line removal tool?
>>>
>> No, add/delete programs does not clear Norton completely from your
>> system; that's yet another objection to it. Somewhere on
>> Norton/Symantic site there's a program that removes everything
>> Norton-ish from the system. It may be the one given upthread a little.
>>
> I finally got my computer restored to an earlier restore point and it
> is working very well, again, but it still has Norton installed and I
> can't find a workable means for getting it out of the way, totally.
> The Norton removal link that was posted earlier in this thread seemed
> to work but there were bits and pieces of Norton that showed up on my
> computer, after the removal process had been completed. There was a
> Norton Start Button in the Task Bar, but it didn't work. There were
> Norton lines in some of the other program windows, too.
>
> I did a restore point and everything is working well for the time
> being but I still want to remove Norton completely and safely.
>
> Gordon
>

Run the Norton removal program again and then run CCleaner
(http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard) and use the
Registry Fixer but nuke ONLY the references to Norton and/or Symantec.

--
Alias

[FDK]

"Dave-UK" wrote in message ...


"FDK" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>
>>Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>
> Windows Security Essentials. If you use it, turn off Windows
> Defender. It's a memory hog.

>Microsoft security Essentials is not supported on Windows 8.
>Look at the Key Features - "Supports Windows 7, Windows Vista, and
>Windows XP"

>http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows/security-essentials-download

>Windows Defender is the Microsoft antivirus that is part of Windows
>8.
>Windows Defender is not the same as the previous Defender, which was
>just an antimalware program.

Good to know, thanks.

[Gene E. Bloch[_5_]]

On 11/19/2012, Dave-UK posted:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:08:38 -0500, "Joe Morris"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Gordon" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
>>>> computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
>>>> operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
>>>> figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon
>>>
>>>Have you tried the "Programs and features" control panel?
>>>
>> Yes, I've tried the "Programs and Features" approach but got no
>> results.
>>>
>>>Also...your posting did not say if the computer was delivered from HP with
>>> Windows 8 installed, or with Windows 7 and you've installed Windows 8 as
>>> an upgrade. Especially if the latter is the case, there's a good chance
>>> that the version of Norton Antivirus (irrespective of its reputation)
>>> isn't compatible with Windows 8. I have no experience with the
>>> Norton-branded products (so I don't know when or if a Win8-compatible
>>> version of NAV is/will be available), but the Windows 8-compatible
>>> production build of the enterprise AV package (under the Symantec brand)
>>> was just released a couple of days ago, fixing problems that made the
>>> earlier builds unusable on Win8.
>>>
>>>Joe
>>>
>> I bought this computer from Staples, still in the box and it did have
>> Windows 7 and Norton installed by the manufacturer.
>>
>> Gordon

> So how did Windows 8 get installed on it ?

Perhaps "7" was a typo...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Gene E. Bloch[_5_]]

On 11/19/2012, posted:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:11 +0000, Robin Bignall
> > wrote:

>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:05:54 -0600, Gordon > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:37:03 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:19 -0600, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>>>>> Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>>>>> installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>>>>> with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>>>>> than a full version.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>>>>> software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>>>>> kind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>>>>
>>>> I got the same Symantec product with a HP system. IMO the stuff causes
>>>> problems so I removed it.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>> Steve, I'm headed in the same direction. Did you use the Control Panel
>>> Remove Programs function or did you use some on-line removal tool?
>>>
>> No, add/delete programs does not clear Norton completely from your
>> system; that's yet another objection to it. Somewhere on
>> Norton/Symantic site there's a program that removes everything
>> Norton-ish from the system. It may be the one given upthread a little.
>>
> I finally got my computer restored to an earlier restore point and it
> is working very well, again, but it still has Norton installed and I
> can't find a workable means for getting it out of the way, totally.
> The Norton removal link that was posted earlier in this thread seemed
> to work but there were bits and pieces of Norton that showed up on my
> computer, after the removal process had been completed. There was a
> Norton Start Button in the Task Bar, but it didn't work. There were
> Norton lines in some of the other program windows, too.

> I did a restore point and everything is working well for the time
> being but I still want to remove Norton completely and safely.

> Gordon

The icon on the task bar was probably not put there by Norton and hence
was unknown to the uninstaller. That kind of thing happens to me a lot
for exactly analogous reasons.

Just remove it from the task bar.

I can't speak to what else you saw, since you didn't mention what they
might have been - but anyway, I probably don't know enough to say
anything valid about them :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Dave-UK]

"Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message ...
> On 11/19/2012, Dave-UK posted:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:08:38 -0500, "Joe Morris"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Gordon" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
>>>>> computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
>>>>> operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
>>>>> figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon
>>>>
>>>>Have you tried the "Programs and features" control panel?
>>>>
>>> Yes, I've tried the "Programs and Features" approach but got no
>>> results.
>>>>
>>>>Also...your posting did not say if the computer was delivered from HP with
>>>> Windows 8 installed, or with Windows 7 and you've installed Windows 8 as
>>>> an upgrade. Especially if the latter is the case, there's a good chance
>>>> that the version of Norton Antivirus (irrespective of its reputation)
>>>> isn't compatible with Windows 8. I have no experience with the
>>>> Norton-branded products (so I don't know when or if a Win8-compatible
>>>> version of NAV is/will be available), but the Windows 8-compatible
>>>> production build of the enterprise AV package (under the Symantec brand)
>>>> was just released a couple of days ago, fixing problems that made the
>>>> earlier builds unusable on Win8.
>>>>
>>>>Joe
>>>>
>>> I bought this computer from Staples, still in the box and it did have
>>> Windows 7 and Norton installed by the manufacturer.
>>>
>>> Gordon
>
>> So how did Windows 8 get installed on it ?
>
> Perhaps "7" was a typo...
>

His reply indicates it wasn't a typo.

[Gene E. Bloch[_5_]]

On 11/19/2012, Dave-UK posted:
> "Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 11/19/2012, Dave-UK posted:
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:08:38 -0500, "Joe Morris"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Gordon" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
>>>>>> computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
>>>>>> operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
>>>>>> figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon
>>>>>
>>>>>Have you tried the "Programs and features" control panel?
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, I've tried the "Programs and Features" approach but got no
>>>> results.
>>>>>
>>>>>Also...your posting did not say if the computer was delivered from HP
>>>>> with Windows 8 installed, or with Windows 7 and you've installed Windows
>>>>> 8 as an upgrade. Especially if the latter is the case, there's a good
>>>>> chance that the version of Norton Antivirus (irrespective of its
>>>>> reputation) isn't compatible with Windows 8. I have no experience with
>>>>> the Norton-branded products (so I don't know when or if a
>>>>> Win8-compatible version of NAV is/will be available), but the Windows
>>>>> 8-compatible production build of the enterprise AV package (under the
>>>>> Symantec brand) was just released a couple of days ago, fixing problems
>>>>> that made the earlier builds unusable on Win8.
>>>>>
>>>>>Joe
>>>>>
>>>> I bought this computer from Staples, still in the box and it did have
>>>> Windows 7 and Norton installed by the manufacturer.
>>>>
>>>> Gordon
>>
>>> So how did Windows 8 get installed on it ?
>>
>> Perhaps "7" was a typo...
>>

> His reply indicates it wasn't a typo.

OK, I don't see that reply.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Dave-UK]

"Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message ...
> On 11/19/2012, Dave-UK posted:
>> "Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 11/19/2012, Dave-UK posted:
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:08:38 -0500, "Joe Morris"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Gordon" > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
>>>>>>> computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
>>>>>>> operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
>>>>>>> figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Have you tried the "Programs and features" control panel?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I've tried the "Programs and Features" approach but got no
>>>>> results.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also...your posting did not say if the computer was delivered from HP
>>>>>> with Windows 8 installed, or with Windows 7 and you've installed Windows
>>>>>> 8 as an upgrade. Especially if the latter is the case, there's a good
>>>>>> chance that the version of Norton Antivirus (irrespective of its
>>>>>> reputation) isn't compatible with Windows 8. I have no experience with
>>>>>> the Norton-branded products (so I don't know when or if a
>>>>>> Win8-compatible version of NAV is/will be available), but the Windows
>>>>>> 8-compatible production build of the enterprise AV package (under the
>>>>>> Symantec brand) was just released a couple of days ago, fixing problems
>>>>>> that made the earlier builds unusable on Win8.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Joe
>>>>>>
>>>>> I bought this computer from Staples, still in the box and it did have
>>>>> Windows 7 and Norton installed by the manufacturer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gordon
>>>
>>>> So how did Windows 8 get installed on it ?
>>>
>>> Perhaps "7" was a typo...
>>>
>
>> His reply indicates it wasn't a typo.
>
> OK, I don't see that reply.
>

Perhaps you need a better newsreader. :-)

[[email protected]]

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:58:16 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
> wrote:

>On 11/19/2012, Dave-UK posted:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:08:38 -0500, "Joe Morris"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Gordon" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
>>>>> computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
>>>>> operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
>>>>> figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon
>>>>
>>>>Have you tried the "Programs and features" control panel?
>>>>
>>> Yes, I've tried the "Programs and Features" approach but got no
>>> results.
>>>>
>>>>Also...your posting did not say if the computer was delivered from HP with
>>>> Windows 8 installed, or with Windows 7 and you've installed Windows 8 as
>>>> an upgrade. Especially if the latter is the case, there's a good chance
>>>> that the version of Norton Antivirus (irrespective of its reputation)
>>>> isn't compatible with Windows 8. I have no experience with the
>>>> Norton-branded products (so I don't know when or if a Win8-compatible
>>>> version of NAV is/will be available), but the Windows 8-compatible
>>>> production build of the enterprise AV package (under the Symantec brand)
>>>> was just released a couple of days ago, fixing problems that made the
>>>> earlier builds unusable on Win8.
>>>>
>>>>Joe
>>>>
>>> I bought this computer from Staples, still in the box and it did have
>>> Windows 7 and Norton installed by the manufacturer.
>>>
>>> Gordon
>
>> So how did Windows 8 get installed on it ?
>
>Perhaps "7" was a typo...
>
It was a typo! I got my tongue over my eye teeth and couldn't see what
I was saying. ;-)

My new HP Pavilion computer came with Windows 8 and a trial version of
Norton Internet Security installed by the manufacturer.

The computer was still in its original box and the seal had not been
broken or tampered with. I bought this computer from the local Staples
Store and they ordered if from HP for me. THat is, it was never on
display or in any way modified by the people at Staples.

This trial version of Norton Internet Security is good for 60 days
from the time I first used the computer and it sent an on-line
activation response back to Norton. That was last week, so I have
about 53 days left. I think I'll just hang on and bite my fingernails
while hoping for the best. I'm guessing Norton Internet Security will
uninstall itself if I don't ante up and buy an extension.

Gordon

[[email protected]]

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 12:03:20 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
> wrote:

>On 11/19/2012, posted:
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:11 +0000, Robin Bignall
>> > wrote:
>
>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:05:54 -0600, Gordon > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:37:03 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:19 -0600, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>>>>>> Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>>>>>> installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>>>>>> with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>>>>>> than a full version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>>>>>> software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>>>>>> kind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>>>>>
>>>>> I got the same Symantec product with a HP system. IMO the stuff causes
>>>>> problems so I removed it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>> Steve, I'm headed in the same direction. Did you use the Control Panel
>>>> Remove Programs function or did you use some on-line removal tool?
>>>>
>>> No, add/delete programs does not clear Norton completely from your
>>> system; that's yet another objection to it. Somewhere on
>>> Norton/Symantic site there's a program that removes everything
>>> Norton-ish from the system. It may be the one given upthread a little.
>>>
>> I finally got my computer restored to an earlier restore point and it
>> is working very well, again, but it still has Norton installed and I
>> can't find a workable means for getting it out of the way, totally.
>> The Norton removal link that was posted earlier in this thread seemed
>> to work but there were bits and pieces of Norton that showed up on my
>> computer, after the removal process had been completed. There was a
>> Norton Start Button in the Task Bar, but it didn't work. There were
>> Norton lines in some of the other program windows, too.
>
>> I did a restore point and everything is working well for the time
>> being but I still want to remove Norton completely and safely.
>
>> Gordon
>
>The icon on the task bar was probably not put there by Norton and hence
>was unknown to the uninstaller. That kind of thing happens to me a lot
>for exactly analogous reasons.
>
I think my use of the term "task bar" was an error. I was talking
abouit the small section at the right end of the task bar...what ever
it's called???? Anyway, it has a Norton appearance and seems to have
been supplied by the Norton Internet Security when it was first set up
by HP as they put this computer together.
>
>Just remove it from the task bar.
>
I'm going to just sit tight and let this Norton Internet Security
software trial version expire.Surely there will be some means for
getting it all cleaned off my computer when the trial version expires
and I don't renew or switch to another version. Or, would Norton leave
me a captive to their marketing strategy until I take this computer to
the land fill and dump it?
>
>I can't speak to what else you saw, since you didn't mention what they
>might have been - but anyway, I probably don't know enough to say
>anything valid about them :-)
>
Almost every computer based function such as Files Explorer, Control
Panel, Libraries, etc., showed a Norton warning line at the top in
bright yellow/orange indicating that the computer was without any
virus or malware protection. Gordon

[Gene E. Bloch[_5_]]

On 11/19/2012, posted:
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 12:03:20 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
> > wrote:

>> On 11/19/2012, posted:
>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:11 +0000, Robin Bignall
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:05:54 -0600, Gordon > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:37:03 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:19 -0600, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
>>>>>>> Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
>>>>>>> installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
>>>>>>> with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
>>>>>>> than a full version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
>>>>>>> software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
>>>>>>> kind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got the same Symantec product with a HP system. IMO the stuff causes
>>>>>> problems so I removed it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>> Steve, I'm headed in the same direction. Did you use the Control Panel
>>>>> Remove Programs function or did you use some on-line removal tool?
>>>>>
>>>> No, add/delete programs does not clear Norton completely from your
>>>> system; that's yet another objection to it. Somewhere on
>>>> Norton/Symantic site there's a program that removes everything
>>>> Norton-ish from the system. It may be the one given upthread a little.
>>>>
>>> I finally got my computer restored to an earlier restore point and it
>>> is working very well, again, but it still has Norton installed and I
>>> can't find a workable means for getting it out of the way, totally.
>>> The Norton removal link that was posted earlier in this thread seemed
>>> to work but there were bits and pieces of Norton that showed up on my
>>> computer, after the removal process had been completed. There was a
>>> Norton Start Button in the Task Bar, but it didn't work. There were
>>> Norton lines in some of the other program windows, too.
>>> I did a restore point and everything is working well for the time
>>> being but I still want to remove Norton completely and safely.
>>> Gordon
>>
>> The icon on the task bar was probably not put there by Norton and hence
>> was unknown to the uninstaller. That kind of thing happens to me a lot
>> for exactly analogous reasons.
>>
> I think my use of the term "task bar" was an error. I was talking
> abouit the small section at the right end of the task bar...what ever
> it's called???? Anyway, it has a Norton appearance and seems to have
> been supplied by the Norton Internet Security when it was first set up
> by HP as they put this computer together.

OK, It used to be called the "System Tray", and now it's officially the
"Notification Area". Not surprisingly, you'll still see both terms. And
that *was* put there by Norton, I'm reasonably sure.

Also, getting rid of that belongs to my areas of non-expertise, sorry
:-)

>> Just remove it from the task bar.
>>
> I'm going to just sit tight and let this Norton Internet Security
> software trial version expire.Surely there will be some means for
> getting it all cleaned off my computer when the trial version expires
> and I don't renew or switch to another version. Or, would Norton leave
> me a captive to their marketing strategy until I take this computer to
> the land fill and dump it?

I'm beginning to be afraid of that :-(

>> I can't speak to what else you saw, since you didn't mention what they
>> might have been - but anyway, I probably don't know enough to say
>> anything valid about them :-)
>>
> Almost every computer based function such as Files Explorer, Control
> Panel, Libraries, etc., showed a Norton warning line at the top in
> bright yellow/orange indicating that the computer was without any
> virus or malware protection. Gordon

(Understatement alert!) OK, that is definitely annoying. I wonder if my
previous remarks about finding a different (more tailored) version of
the Norton remover might be valid...I do know that the download worked
for me way back when, but it was an earlier fully paid version of
Norton on an earlier version of Windows.

Installing Windows Defender might help with those messages, at least if
the Norton software is honest.

I'm happier than ever that I gave up on that product a few years ago,
but that's no consolation to you.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Gene E. Bloch[_5_]]

On 11/19/2012, Dave-UK posted:
> "Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 11/19/2012, Dave-UK posted:
>>> "Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 11/19/2012, Dave-UK posted:
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:08:38 -0500, "Joe Morris"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Gordon" > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
>>>>>>>> computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was
>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>> operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
>>>>>>>> figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Have you tried the "Programs and features" control panel?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I've tried the "Programs and Features" approach but got no
>>>>>> results.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Also...your posting did not say if the computer was delivered from HP
>>>>>>> with Windows 8 installed, or with Windows 7 and you've installed
>>>>>>> Windows 8 as an upgrade. Especially if the latter is the case,
>>>>>>> there's a good chance that the version of Norton Antivirus
>>>>>>> (irrespective of its reputation) isn't compatible with Windows 8. I
>>>>>>> have no experience with the Norton-branded products (so I don't know
>>>>>>> when or if a Win8-compatible version of NAV is/will be available), but
>>>>>>> the Windows 8-compatible production build of the enterprise AV package
>>>>>>> (under the Symantec brand) was just released a couple of days ago,
>>>>>>> fixing problems that made the earlier builds unusable on Win8.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Joe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I bought this computer from Staples, still in the box and it did have
>>>>>> Windows 7 and Norton installed by the manufacturer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gordon
>>>>
>>>>> So how did Windows 8 get installed on it ?
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps "7" was a typo...
>>>>
>>
>>> His reply indicates it wasn't a typo.
>>
>> OK, I don't see that reply.
>>

> Perhaps you need a better newsreader. :-)

Or a different news service provider :-)

But just a moment ago, I did see Gordon's reply to my post...

I want to say "Nyah, nyah, nyah", but I'm too mature and too polite :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Robin Bignall]

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:13:12 -0600, wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:58:16 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
> wrote:
>
>>On 11/19/2012, Dave-UK posted:
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:08:38 -0500, "Joe Morris"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Gordon" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
>>>>>> computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
>>>>>> operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
>>>>>> figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon
>>>>>
>>>>>Have you tried the "Programs and features" control panel?
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, I've tried the "Programs and Features" approach but got no
>>>> results.
>>>>>
>>>>>Also...your posting did not say if the computer was delivered from HP with
>>>>> Windows 8 installed, or with Windows 7 and you've installed Windows 8 as
>>>>> an upgrade. Especially if the latter is the case, there's a good chance
>>>>> that the version of Norton Antivirus (irrespective of its reputation)
>>>>> isn't compatible with Windows 8. I have no experience with the
>>>>> Norton-branded products (so I don't know when or if a Win8-compatible
>>>>> version of NAV is/will be available), but the Windows 8-compatible
>>>>> production build of the enterprise AV package (under the Symantec brand)
>>>>> was just released a couple of days ago, fixing problems that made the
>>>>> earlier builds unusable on Win8.
>>>>>
>>>>>Joe
>>>>>
>>>> I bought this computer from Staples, still in the box and it did have
>>>> Windows 7 and Norton installed by the manufacturer.
>>>>
>>>> Gordon
>>
>>> So how did Windows 8 get installed on it ?
>>
>>Perhaps "7" was a typo...
>>
>It was a typo! I got my tongue over my eye teeth and couldn't see what
>I was saying. ;-)
>
>My new HP Pavilion computer came with Windows 8 and a trial version of
>Norton Internet Security installed by the manufacturer.
>
> The computer was still in its original box and the seal had not been
>broken or tampered with. I bought this computer from the local Staples
>Store and they ordered if from HP for me. THat is, it was never on
>display or in any way modified by the people at Staples.
>
>This trial version of Norton Internet Security is good for 60 days
>from the time I first used the computer and it sent an on-line
>activation response back to Norton. That was last week, so I have
>about 53 days left. I think I'll just hang on and bite my fingernails
>while hoping for the best. I'm guessing Norton Internet Security will
>uninstall itself if I don't ante up and buy an extension.
>
Personally, I wouldn't bet real money on that. I dunno what it will do,
but be glad it's not McAfee; you might have had him call round and shoot
you for not renewing.
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Robin Bignall
Herts, England