Win 8 review

[Mark]

Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.

[Nil[_2_]]

On 28 Nov 2012, Mark > wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-8:

> Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.

Wow - thanks for that in-depth critique! Your cons got me a little
worried, but your pros finally convinced me.

[Leala]

On 29-Nov-2012 00:40, Nil wrote:
> On 28 Nov 2012, Mark > wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-8:
>
>> Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.
>
> Wow - thanks for that in-depth critique! Your cons got me a little
> worried, but your pros finally convinced me.
>

Yep and I'm running to the nearest store to buy it. (not)

--
Leala.

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Mark" > wrote in message
...
> Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.

If you mean the retail version, it's only been out for one month and three
days. Hardly qualifies as "some months" :-)

I'm impressed, too, but not necessarily in a good way. (Nil can add this to
his 'cons' LOL!)
--
SC Tom

[BillW50]

On 11/29/2012 7:48 AM, SC Tom wrote:
>
> "Mark" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.
>
> If you mean the retail version, it's only been out for one month and
> three days. Hardly qualifies as "some months" :-)
>
> I'm impressed, too, but not necessarily in a good way. (Nil can add this
> to his 'cons' LOL!)

I don't know why you don't like it? As Windows 8 fixes problems that
Windows 7 has with the desktop. Just like Windows 7 fixes problems that
Vista had. Microsoft doesn't fix problems in their OS. They just sell
you a new one with the fixes for the previous OS.

And now the story is that Microsoft is going to launch Windows Blue. So
you never have to purchase a new copy of Windows anymore. Instead, you
pay a yearly low cost subscription fee. And if you don't, nothing will work.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12.0.1
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

[Alias[_43_]]

On 11/29/2012 3:20 PM, BillW50 wrote:
> On 11/29/2012 7:48 AM, SC Tom wrote:
>>
>> "Mark" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.
>>
>> If you mean the retail version, it's only been out for one month and
>> three days. Hardly qualifies as "some months" :-)
>>
>> I'm impressed, too, but not necessarily in a good way. (Nil can add this
>> to his 'cons' LOL!)
>
> I don't know why you don't like it? As Windows 8 fixes problems that
> Windows 7 has with the desktop. Just like Windows 7 fixes problems that
> Vista had. Microsoft doesn't fix problems in their OS. They just sell
> you a new one with the fixes for the previous OS.
>
> And now the story is that Microsoft is going to launch Windows Blue. So
> you never have to purchase a new copy of Windows anymore. Instead, you
> pay a yearly low cost subscription fee. And if you don't, nothing will
> work.
>

Not exactly. If you want to upgrade, you have to pay. There is no
"subscription". If you don't upgrade, your paid for install will still
work. Can you give us a source for this "subscription" nonsense?

--
Alias

[BillW50]

In ,
Alias typed:
> On 11/29/2012 3:20 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>> On 11/29/2012 7:48 AM, SC Tom wrote:
>>>
>>> "Mark" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.
>>>
>>> If you mean the retail version, it's only been out for one month and
>>> three days. Hardly qualifies as "some months" :-)
>>>
>>> I'm impressed, too, but not necessarily in a good way. (Nil can add
>>> this to his 'cons' LOL!)
>>
>> I don't know why you don't like it? As Windows 8 fixes problems that
>> Windows 7 has with the desktop. Just like Windows 7 fixes problems
>> that Vista had. Microsoft doesn't fix problems in their OS. They
>> just sell you a new one with the fixes for the previous OS.
>>
>> And now the story is that Microsoft is going to launch Windows Blue.
>> So you never have to purchase a new copy of Windows anymore.
>> Instead, you pay a yearly low cost subscription fee. And if you
>> don't, nothing will work.
>>
>
> Not exactly. If you want to upgrade, you have to pay. There is no
> "subscription". If you don't upgrade, your paid for install will still
> work. Can you give us a source for this "subscription" nonsense?

Just Google "Windows Blue" lazy one!

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

[Desk Rabbit[_2_]]

On 29/11/2012 17:21, BillW50 wrote:
> In ,
> Alias typed:
>> On 11/29/2012 3:20 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>>> On 11/29/2012 7:48 AM, SC Tom wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Mark" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.
>>>>
>>>> If you mean the retail version, it's only been out for one month and
>>>> three days. Hardly qualifies as "some months" :-)
>>>>
>>>> I'm impressed, too, but not necessarily in a good way. (Nil can add
>>>> this to his 'cons' LOL!)
>>>
>>> I don't know why you don't like it? As Windows 8 fixes problems that
>>> Windows 7 has with the desktop. Just like Windows 7 fixes problems
>>> that Vista had. Microsoft doesn't fix problems in their OS. They
>>> just sell you a new one with the fixes for the previous OS.
>>>
>>> And now the story is that Microsoft is going to launch Windows Blue.
>>> So you never have to purchase a new copy of Windows anymore.
>>> Instead, you pay a yearly low cost subscription fee. And if you
>>> don't, nothing will work.
>>>
>>
>> Not exactly. If you want to upgrade, you have to pay. There is no
>> "subscription". If you don't upgrade, your paid for install will still
>> work. Can you give us a source for this "subscription" nonsense?
>
> Just Google "Windows Blue" lazy one!
>

Yeah, the salient point on all the Google results is "Unfortunately none
of this information has been confirmed as yet by Microsoft," so it's all
just speculation and hearsay.

[Alias[_43_]]

On 11/29/2012 6:21 PM, BillW50 wrote:
> In ,
> Alias typed:
>> On 11/29/2012 3:20 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>>> On 11/29/2012 7:48 AM, SC Tom wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Mark" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.
>>>>
>>>> If you mean the retail version, it's only been out for one month and
>>>> three days. Hardly qualifies as "some months" :-)
>>>>
>>>> I'm impressed, too, but not necessarily in a good way. (Nil can add
>>>> this to his 'cons' LOL!)
>>>
>>> I don't know why you don't like it? As Windows 8 fixes problems that
>>> Windows 7 has with the desktop. Just like Windows 7 fixes problems
>>> that Vista had. Microsoft doesn't fix problems in their OS. They
>>> just sell you a new one with the fixes for the previous OS.
>>>
>>> And now the story is that Microsoft is going to launch Windows Blue.
>>> So you never have to purchase a new copy of Windows anymore.
>>> Instead, you pay a yearly low cost subscription fee. And if you
>>> don't, nothing will work.
>>>
>>
>> Not exactly. If you want to upgrade, you have to pay. There is no
>> "subscription". If you don't upgrade, your paid for install will still
>> work. Can you give us a source for this "subscription" nonsense?
>
> Just Google "Windows Blue" lazy one!
>

I did and no subscription plan that I could find. So, you stated it and
you should back it up but you won't and you won't reply and you will
hope no one will notice.

--
Alias

[BillW50]

In ,
Alias typed:
> On 11/29/2012 6:21 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>> In ,
>> Alias typed:
>>> On 11/29/2012 3:20 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>>>> On 11/29/2012 7:48 AM, SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mark" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you mean the retail version, it's only been out for one month
>>>>> and three days. Hardly qualifies as "some months" :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm impressed, too, but not necessarily in a good way. (Nil can
>>>>> add this to his 'cons' LOL!)
>>>>
>>>> I don't know why you don't like it? As Windows 8 fixes problems
>>>> that Windows 7 has with the desktop. Just like Windows 7 fixes
>>>> problems that Vista had. Microsoft doesn't fix problems in their
>>>> OS. They just sell you a new one with the fixes for the previous
>>>> OS. And now the story is that Microsoft is going to launch Windows
>>>> Blue. So you never have to purchase a new copy of Windows anymore.
>>>> Instead, you pay a yearly low cost subscription fee. And if you
>>>> don't, nothing will work.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not exactly. If you want to upgrade, you have to pay. There is no
>>> "subscription". If you don't upgrade, your paid for install will
>>> still work. Can you give us a source for this "subscription"
>>> nonsense?
>>
>> Just Google "Windows Blue" lazy one!
>>
>
> I did and no subscription plan that I could find. So, you stated it
> and you should back it up but you won't and you won't reply and you
> will hope no one will notice.

Really lazy one? Are you willing to bet your life on it? And face the
firing squad if you are wrong?

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

[James Silverton[_2_]]

On 11/29/2012 1:35 PM, BillW50 wrote:
> In ,
> Alias typed:
>> On 11/29/2012 6:21 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>>> In ,
>>> Alias typed:
>>>> On 11/29/2012 3:20 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>>>>> On 11/29/2012 7:48 AM, SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>> "Mark" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.
>>>>>> If you mean the retail version, it's only been out for one month
>>>>>> and three days. Hardly qualifies as "some months" :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm impressed, too, but not necessarily in a good way. (Nil can
>>>>>> add this to his 'cons' LOL!)
>>>>> I don't know why you don't like it? As Windows 8 fixes problems
>>>>> that Windows 7 has with the desktop. Just like Windows 7 fixes
>>>>> problems that Vista had. Microsoft doesn't fix problems in their
>>>>> OS. They just sell you a new one with the fixes for the previous
>>>>> OS. And now the story is that Microsoft is going to launch Windows
>>>>> Blue. So you never have to purchase a new copy of Windows anymore.
>>>>> Instead, you pay a yearly low cost subscription fee. And if you
>>>>> don't, nothing will work.
>>>>>
>>>> Not exactly. If you want to upgrade, you have to pay. There is no
>>>> "subscription". If you don't upgrade, your paid for install will
>>>> still work. Can you give us a source for this "subscription"
>>>> nonsense?
>>> Just Google "Windows Blue" lazy one!
>>>
>> I did and no subscription plan that I could find. So, you stated it
>> and you should back it up but you won't and you won't reply and you
>> will hope no one will notice.
> Really lazy one? Are you willing to bet your life on it? And face the
> firing squad if you are wrong?
>
This seems reliable and the updating system is not out yet

http://tinyurl.com/d5njonz

or

http://gantdaily.com/2012/11/29/microsoft-to-release-os-x-designed-operating-system-called-windows-blue/

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

[Alias[_43_]]

On 11/29/2012 7:35 PM, BillW50 wrote:
> In ,
> Alias typed:
>> On 11/29/2012 6:21 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>>> In ,
>>> Alias typed:
>>>> On 11/29/2012 3:20 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>>>>> On 11/29/2012 7:48 AM, SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mark" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you mean the retail version, it's only been out for one month
>>>>>> and three days. Hardly qualifies as "some months" :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm impressed, too, but not necessarily in a good way. (Nil can
>>>>>> add this to his 'cons' LOL!)
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know why you don't like it? As Windows 8 fixes problems
>>>>> that Windows 7 has with the desktop. Just like Windows 7 fixes
>>>>> problems that Vista had. Microsoft doesn't fix problems in their
>>>>> OS. They just sell you a new one with the fixes for the previous
>>>>> OS. And now the story is that Microsoft is going to launch Windows
>>>>> Blue. So you never have to purchase a new copy of Windows anymore.
>>>>> Instead, you pay a yearly low cost subscription fee. And if you
>>>>> don't, nothing will work.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not exactly. If you want to upgrade, you have to pay. There is no
>>>> "subscription". If you don't upgrade, your paid for install will
>>>> still work. Can you give us a source for this "subscription"
>>>> nonsense?
>>>
>>> Just Google "Windows Blue" lazy one!
>>>
>>
>> I did and no subscription plan that I could find. So, you stated it
>> and you should back it up but you won't and you won't reply and you
>> will hope no one will notice.
>
> Really lazy one? Are you willing to bet your life on it? And face the
> firing squad if you are wrong?
>

Still waiting for you to provide proof for your assertions despite your
sophomoric insults. Nothing about "subscription plans" or "will stop
working" if you don't subscribe" anywhere.

--
Alias

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"BillW50" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/29/2012 7:48 AM, SC Tom wrote:
>>
>> "Mark" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.
>>
>> If you mean the retail version, it's only been out for one month and
>> three days. Hardly qualifies as "some months" :-)
>>
>> I'm impressed, too, but not necessarily in a good way. (Nil can add this
>> to his 'cons' LOL!)
>
> I don't know why you don't like it? As Windows 8 fixes problems that
> Windows 7 has with the desktop. Just like Windows 7 fixes problems that
> Vista had. Microsoft doesn't fix problems in their OS. They just sell you
> a new one with the fixes for the previous OS.
>
> And now the story is that Microsoft is going to launch Windows Blue. So
> you never have to purchase a new copy of Windows anymore. Instead, you pay
> a yearly low cost subscription fee. And if you don't, nothing will work.
>

I don't know to what desktop problems you are referring since I haven't had
any. But I couldn't stand the Modern UI to the point that I am pretty much
using Windows 7 desktop on top of Windows 8. Other that that, I'm not overly
disappointed in Win8. I have it on my laptop, which is only 5 months old
manufacture-wise and 2 months old to me (purchased new). I upgraded from Win
HP 64-bit to Win8 Pro 64-bit with very little in the way of problems with
compatible hardware or software. But even with the few problems I had with
the upgrade, it was still more than I had upgrading from Vista to Win7
(different laptop, but at about the same age when I performed that upgrade).

I'll probably leave Win8 on it. As long as I can boot to desktop with a
start menu and no Charms or Chiclets or other moveable, colorful tiles, I'm
happy enough with it.
--
SC Tom

[BillW50]

In ,
SC Tom typed:
> "BillW50" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 11/29/2012 7:48 AM, SC Tom wrote:
>>>
>>> "Mark" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.
>>>
>>> If you mean the retail version, it's only been out for one month and
>>> three days. Hardly qualifies as "some months" :-)
>>>
>>> I'm impressed, too, but not necessarily in a good way. (Nil can add
>>> this to his 'cons' LOL!)
>>
>> I don't know why you don't like it? As Windows 8 fixes problems that
>> Windows 7 has with the desktop. Just like Windows 7 fixes problems
>> that Vista had. Microsoft doesn't fix problems in their OS. They
>> just sell you a new one with the fixes for the previous OS.
>>
>> And now the story is that Microsoft is going to launch Windows Blue.
>> So you never have to purchase a new copy of Windows anymore.
>> Instead, you pay a yearly low cost subscription fee. And if you
>> don't, nothing will work.
>
> I don't know to what desktop problems you are referring since I
> haven't had any. But I couldn't stand the Modern UI to the point that
> I am pretty much using Windows 7 desktop on top of Windows 8. Other
> that that, I'm not overly disappointed in Win8. I have it on my
> laptop, which is only 5 months old manufacture-wise and 2 months old
> to me (purchased new). I upgraded from Win HP 64-bit to Win8 Pro
> 64-bit with very little in the way of problems with compatible
> hardware or software. But even with the few problems I had with the
> upgrade, it was still more than I had upgrading from Vista to Win7
> (different laptop, but at about the same age when I performed that
> upgrade).
> I'll probably leave Win8 on it. As long as I can boot to desktop with
> a start menu and no Charms or Chiclets or other moveable, colorful
> tiles, I'm happy enough with it.

Oh you haven't noticed any difference between Windows 7 desktop and
Windows 8? How about the graph when transferring files for example? I
love that! And with Windows 7 and a dark background wallpaper, the title
bar is unreadable. Under Windows 8, it automatically adjusts so you can
see it.

I have eight of these Gateway M465 laptops. They are great as far as I
am concern. As they run XP all the way to Windows 8 without problems.
But just Windows 7 coming out of standby the external display is blank.
I use a docking station most of the time. And if I lift the lid for a
second, the internal display fires up and then lower, then external
display is now fine. Under XP or Windows 8, it works perfectly and none
of that Windows 7 nonsense.

I probably would feel the same way as you do about Windows 8 before. But
I have been playing around on the Metro side and Apps too and I like it.
As I like full screen Apps. And now the Start Screen makes a lot of
sense and I like it now. You are not there now, but once you do... it is
almost a certainly you too will like it too. It is just a matter of
time. ;-)

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

[Paul]

James Silverton wrote:
> On 11/29/2012 1:35 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>> In ,
>> Alias typed:
>>> On 11/29/2012 6:21 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>>>> In ,
>>>> Alias typed:
>>>>> On 11/29/2012 3:20 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/29/2012 7:48 AM, SC Tom wrote:
>>>>>>> "Mark" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.
>>>>>>> If you mean the retail version, it's only been out for one month
>>>>>>> and three days. Hardly qualifies as "some months" :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm impressed, too, but not necessarily in a good way. (Nil can
>>>>>>> add this to his 'cons' LOL!)
>>>>>> I don't know why you don't like it? As Windows 8 fixes problems
>>>>>> that Windows 7 has with the desktop. Just like Windows 7 fixes
>>>>>> problems that Vista had. Microsoft doesn't fix problems in their
>>>>>> OS. They just sell you a new one with the fixes for the previous
>>>>>> OS. And now the story is that Microsoft is going to launch Windows
>>>>>> Blue. So you never have to purchase a new copy of Windows anymore.
>>>>>> Instead, you pay a yearly low cost subscription fee. And if you
>>>>>> don't, nothing will work.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Not exactly. If you want to upgrade, you have to pay. There is no
>>>>> "subscription". If you don't upgrade, your paid for install will
>>>>> still work. Can you give us a source for this "subscription"
>>>>> nonsense?
>>>> Just Google "Windows Blue" lazy one!
>>>>
>>> I did and no subscription plan that I could find. So, you stated it
>>> and you should back it up but you won't and you won't reply and you
>>> will hope no one will notice.
>> Really lazy one? Are you willing to bet your life on it? And face the
>> firing squad if you are wrong?
>>
> This seems reliable and the updating system is not out yet
>
> http://tinyurl.com/d5njonz
>
> or
>
> http://gantdaily.com/2012/11/29/microsoft-to-release-os-x-designed-operating-system-called-windows-blue/

"They took another page from Apple..."

Yes, they've lost their minds.

Since when is imitating a competitor, a success recipe ?

Paul

[FD[_4_]]

Mark wrote:
> Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.

I have Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 to meet my need for a tablet which is minimal

I have installed win 8 on 5 computers to use it in the desktop mode.

After some tinkering

==========================

http://winsupersite.com/article/windows8/windows-8-tip-disable-lock-screen-143556

http://www.howtogeek.com/112919/how-to-make-your-windows-8-computer-logon-automatically/

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/quick-tip-create-shutdown-restart-lock-icons-in-windows-vista/

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-7/add-the-quick-launch-bar-to-the-taskbar-in-windows-7/

http://code.google.com/p/mactype/

======================

I am very happy with it as a desktop system

It is faster and there is less bloat.

FD

[mobilelawyer]

On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:32:40 -0500, FD > wrote:

>Mark wrote:
>> Have been using Win 8 for some months now. Impressive OS.
>
>I have Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 to meet my need for a tablet which is minimal
>
>I have installed win 8 on 5 computers to use it in the desktop mode.
>
>After some tinkering
>
>==========================
>
>http://winsupersite.com/article/windows8/windows-8-tip-disable-lock-screen-143556
>
>http://www.howtogeek.com/112919/how-to-make-your-windows-8-computer-logon-automatically/
>
>http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/quick-tip-create-shutdown-restart-lock-icons-in-windows-vista/
>
>http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-7/add-the-quick-launch-bar-to-the-taskbar-in-windows-7/
>
>http://code.google.com/p/mactype/
>
>======================
>
>I am very happy with it as a desktop system
>
>It is faster and there is less bloat.
>
>FD
I would tend to agree. I would use the Metro interface more if I were
using Windows 8 on a tablet, or if I had a touchscreen monitor. I
cheat and use Start 8 which boots by default to the old desktop.

I have no major complaints with Windows 8 at home. If IT installed it
at our office, it would shut down the business for at least half a day
while the workstations users tried to figure out how to create
documens, etc., from the new interface.