Windows 8 uptake: More like Vista than Windows 7

[Alias[_43_]]

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9234216/Windows_8_uptake_More_like_Vista_than_Windows_7

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Alias

[Drew[_3_]]

On 12/1/2012 11:01 AM, Alias wrote:
> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9234216/Windows_8_uptake_More_like_Vista_than_Windows_7
>
>
No offense to anyone but at least Vista worked!.. a resource hog that
required lots of horsepower but at least it worked on computers built
more than 2yrs ago. Go figure that Vista worked on my wife's touchsmart
iq804 but not win 8. It is frickin ridiculous that some manufacturers
will not update computers older to run win 8. although I think win 8 is
a fisher price toy operating system and will definitely not put it on a
system that requires any work to be performed with it. My system will
stay win7 until something better comes along or start looking at other
products.

[Alias[_43_]]

On 12/1/2012 8:43 PM, Drew wrote:
> On 12/1/2012 11:01 AM, Alias wrote:
>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9234216/Windows_8_uptake_More_like_Vista_than_Windows_7
>>
>>
>>
> No offense to anyone but at least Vista worked!.. a resource hog that
> required lots of horsepower but at least it worked on computers built
> more than 2yrs ago. Go figure that Vista worked on my wife's touchsmart
> iq804 but not win 8. It is frickin ridiculous that some manufacturers
> will not update computers older to run win 8. although I think win 8 is
> a fisher price toy operating system and will definitely not put it on a
> system that requires any work to be performed with it. My system will
> stay win7 until something better comes along or start looking at other
> products.

Check out http://www.netrunner-os.com/

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Alias

[Auric__]

Alias wrote:

> On 12/1/2012 8:43 PM, Drew wrote:
>> On 12/1/2012 11:01 AM, Alias wrote:
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9234216/Windows_8_uptake_More_li
>>> ke_Vista_than_Windows_7
>>>
>> No offense to anyone but at least Vista worked!.. a resource hog that
>> required lots of horsepower but at least it worked on computers built
>> more than 2yrs ago. Go figure that Vista worked on my wife's touchsmart
>> iq804 but not win 8. It is frickin ridiculous that some manufacturers
>> will not update computers older to run win 8. although I think win 8 is
>> a fisher price toy operating system and will definitely not put it on a
>> system that requires any work to be performed with it. My system will
>> stay win7 until something better comes along or start looking at other
>> products.
>
> Check out http://www.netrunner-os.com/

Please. Keep your distro adverts in the Linux groups.

(Personally, I avoid the Ubuntu family, and prefer Slackware. If I wanted a
..deb-based system, I'd just go with Debian.)

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- Are there any broken bones?
- No.
- Dead bodies?
- Noooo?
- Illegal drug smuggling?
- No!

[Drew[_3_]]

On 12/1/2012 11:57 AM, Alias wrote:
> On 12/1/2012 8:43 PM, Drew wrote:
>> On 12/1/2012 11:01 AM, Alias wrote:
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9234216/Windows_8_uptake_More_like_Vista_than_Windows_7
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> No offense to anyone but at least Vista worked!.. a resource hog that
>> required lots of horsepower but at least it worked on computers built
>> more than 2yrs ago. Go figure that Vista worked on my wife's touchsmart
>> iq804 but not win 8. It is frickin ridiculous that some manufacturers
>> will not update computers older to run win 8. although I think win 8 is
>> a fisher price toy operating system and will definitely not put it on a
>> system that requires any work to be performed with it. My system will
>> stay win7 until something better comes along or start looking at other
>> products.
>
> Check out http://www.netrunner-os.com/
>
Since this machine is a custom home built box that is a few yrs old and
will still smoke most newer machines I will stick with Windows 7 for
quite some time yet. For all we know somebody by then will have
something to compete with Microsoft. Doubtful as Microsoft gets too
bitchy with competition!

[charlie[_2_]]

On 12/1/2012 4:32 PM, Drew wrote:
> On 12/1/2012 11:57 AM, Alias wrote:
>> On 12/1/2012 8:43 PM, Drew wrote:
>>> On 12/1/2012 11:01 AM, Alias wrote:
>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9234216/Windows_8_uptake_More_like_Vista_than_Windows_7
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No offense to anyone but at least Vista worked!.. a resource hog that
>>> required lots of horsepower but at least it worked on computers built
>>> more than 2yrs ago. Go figure that Vista worked on my wife's touchsmart
>>> iq804 but not win 8. It is frickin ridiculous that some manufacturers
>>> will not update computers older to run win 8. although I think win 8 is
>>> a fisher price toy operating system and will definitely not put it on a
>>> system that requires any work to be performed with it. My system will
>>> stay win7 until something better comes along or start looking at other
>>> products.
>>
>> Check out http://www.netrunner-os.com/
>>
> Since this machine is a custom home built box that is a few yrs old and
> will still smoke most newer machines I will stick with Windows 7 for
> quite some time yet. For all we know somebody by then will have
> something to compete with Microsoft. Doubtful as Microsoft gets too
> bitchy with competition!

First, judging an OPs system right after it comes out is fair, but the
original release is often lacking.

Win 7 & 8 are sorta birds of the same feather, etc. Add this, add that,
tweak a bit here and there, take something out, and you might come close
to the win 7 win 8 differences.
Win 7 had it's origins in Vista.

[Alias[_43_]]

On 12/1/2012 9:40 PM, Auric__ put on his net nanny cap wrote:

>>>>
>>> No offense to anyone but at least Vista worked!.. a resource hog that
>>> required lots of horsepower but at least it worked on computers built
>>> more than 2yrs ago. Go figure that Vista worked on my wife's touchsmart
>>> iq804 but not win 8. It is frickin ridiculous that some manufacturers
>>> will not update computers older to run win 8. although I think win 8 is
>>> a fisher price toy operating system and will definitely not put it on a
>>> system that requires any work to be performed with it. My system will
>>> stay win7 until something better comes along or start looking at other
>>> products.
>>
>> Check out http://www.netrunner-os.com/
>
> Please. Keep your distro adverts in the Linux groups.

I'll post what I want. Don't like it? Kill file me.

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Alias

[Drew[_3_]]

On 12/1/2012 2:28 PM, charlie wrote:
> On 12/1/2012 4:32 PM, Drew wrote:
>> On 12/1/2012 11:57 AM, Alias wrote:
>>> On 12/1/2012 8:43 PM, Drew wrote:
>>>> On 12/1/2012 11:01 AM, Alias wrote:
>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9234216/Windows_8_uptake_More_like_Vista_than_Windows_7
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> No offense to anyone but at least Vista worked!.. a resource hog that
>>>> required lots of horsepower but at least it worked on computers built
>>>> more than 2yrs ago. Go figure that Vista worked on my wife's touchsmart
>>>> iq804 but not win 8. It is frickin ridiculous that some manufacturers
>>>> will not update computers older to run win 8. although I think win 8 is
>>>> a fisher price toy operating system and will definitely not put it on a
>>>> system that requires any work to be performed with it. My system will
>>>> stay win7 until something better comes along or start looking at other
>>>> products.
>>>
>>> Check out http://www.netrunner-os.com/
>>>
>> Since this machine is a custom home built box that is a few yrs old and
>> will still smoke most newer machines I will stick with Windows 7 for
>> quite some time yet. For all we know somebody by then will have
>> something to compete with Microsoft. Doubtful as Microsoft gets too
>> bitchy with competition!
>
> First, judging an OPs system right after it comes out is fair, but the
> original release is often lacking.
>
> Win 7 & 8 are sorta birds of the same feather, etc. Add this, add that,
> tweak a bit here and there, take something out, and you might come close
> to the win 7 win 8 differences.
> Win 7 had it's origins in Vista.
>
>
Since I ran both Vista business and now win 7 pro I agree there are
similarities and both small and vast differences. One thing I am finding
about Windows8 is that it does not like to run on a lot of machines that
are more than a couple of years old. Vista would run and quite well. I
know as I did it. My original opinion stands as I believe Microsoft is
heading in the wrong direction but since I am just the buying public my
opinion does not count. Microsoft has never listened to what the buying
public wants only what they want to sell you.I think Win 8 is another
Millenium or Vista and if windows blue is any indication of what is
coming then I think Pc sales will drop even more.

[BillW50]

In ,
Drew typed:
> Since I ran both Vista business and now win 7 pro I agree there are
> similarities and both small and vast differences. One thing I am
> finding about Windows8 is that it does not like to run on a lot of
> machines that are more than a couple of years old. Vista would run
> and quite well. I know as I did it. My original opinion stands as I
> believe Microsoft is heading in the wrong direction but since I am
> just the buying public my opinion does not count. Microsoft has
> never listened to what the buying public wants only what they want to
> sell you.I think Win 8 is another Millenium or Vista and if windows
> blue is any indication of what is coming then I think Pc sales will
> drop even more.

Odd! I am running Windows 8 on a Gateway M465 manufactured back in 2006.
And it runs just fine. Neither Windows 7 or Windows 8 needed any special
drivers for my either of my eight M465 machines. Just take the Windows
install disc and it has everything.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

[Auric__]

Alias wrote:

> On 12/1/2012 9:40 PM, Auric__ put on his net nanny cap wrote:

Anyone who knows me would find that line hilarious.

>>> Check out http://www.netrunner-os.com/
>>
>> Please. Keep your distro adverts in the Linux groups.
>
> I'll post what I want. Don't like it? Kill file me.

I don't need to, to ignore people. (Not that I do very often, but still.)

--
Loud shouts are often the easiest to ignore.

[charlie[_2_]]

On 12/1/2012 9:08 PM, Drew wrote:
> On 12/1/2012 2:28 PM, charlie wrote:
>> On 12/1/2012 4:32 PM, Drew wrote:
>>> On 12/1/2012 11:57 AM, Alias wrote:
>>>> On 12/1/2012 8:43 PM, Drew wrote:
>>>>> On 12/1/2012 11:01 AM, Alias wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9234216/Windows_8_uptake_More_like_Vista_than_Windows_7
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> No offense to anyone but at least Vista worked!.. a resource hog that
>>>>> required lots of horsepower but at least it worked on computers built
>>>>> more than 2yrs ago. Go figure that Vista worked on my wife's
>>>>> touchsmart
>>>>> iq804 but not win 8. It is frickin ridiculous that some manufacturers
>>>>> will not update computers older to run win 8. although I think win
>>>>> 8 is
>>>>> a fisher price toy operating system and will definitely not put it
>>>>> on a
>>>>> system that requires any work to be performed with it. My system will
>>>>> stay win7 until something better comes along or start looking at other
>>>>> products.
>>>>
>>>> Check out http://www.netrunner-os.com/
>>>>
>>> Since this machine is a custom home built box that is a few yrs old and
>>> will still smoke most newer machines I will stick with Windows 7 for
>>> quite some time yet. For all we know somebody by then will have
>>> something to compete with Microsoft. Doubtful as Microsoft gets too
>>> bitchy with competition!
>>
>> First, judging an OPs system right after it comes out is fair, but the
>> original release is often lacking.
>>
>> Win 7 & 8 are sorta birds of the same feather, etc. Add this, add that,
>> tweak a bit here and there, take something out, and you might come close
>> to the win 7 win 8 differences.
>> Win 7 had it's origins in Vista.
>>
>>
> Since I ran both Vista business and now win 7 pro I agree there are
> similarities and both small and vast differences. One thing I am finding
> about Windows8 is that it does not like to run on a lot of machines that
> are more than a couple of years old. Vista would run and quite well. I
> know as I did it. My original opinion stands as I believe Microsoft is
> heading in the wrong direction but since I am just the buying public my
> opinion does not count. Microsoft has never listened to what the buying
> public wants only what they want to sell you.I think Win 8 is another
> Millenium or Vista and if windows blue is any indication of what is
> coming then I think Pc sales will drop even more.


Win 95 was the release I didn't particularly like. It had problems with
timing and interrupt response. It seemed like the delay before an
interrupt was serviced doubled from the previous version. About then, I
also remember something about modem command responses not being parsed
correctly. The microsoft supplied software would "hickup", then fall
through. It was OK for "normal" data usage, and didn't always work
properly with fax & voice modems. Having basically stopped using modems,
I have no idea if the problems were ever really solved. Some still
existed with the beta XP versions. (About the time I quit worrying about
such things!)

Win ME actually wasn't that bad after all the patches and SPs.

I always thought it amusing that about the time the last Win release was
pretty well straightened out, MS releases a new version, and the cycle
starts all over.

[Paul]

BillW50 wrote:
> In ,
> Drew typed:
>> Since I ran both Vista business and now win 7 pro I agree there are
>> similarities and both small and vast differences. One thing I am
>> finding about Windows8 is that it does not like to run on a lot of
>> machines that are more than a couple of years old. Vista would run
>> and quite well. I know as I did it. My original opinion stands as I
>> believe Microsoft is heading in the wrong direction but since I am
>> just the buying public my opinion does not count. Microsoft has
>> never listened to what the buying public wants only what they want to
>> sell you.I think Win 8 is another Millenium or Vista and if windows
>> blue is any indication of what is coming then I think Pc sales will
>> drop even more.
>
> Odd! I am running Windows 8 on a Gateway M465 manufactured back in 2006.
> And it runs just fine. Neither Windows 7 or Windows 8 needed any special
> drivers for my either of my eight M465 machines. Just take the Windows
> install disc and it has everything.
>

I have only two machines here capable of running Windows 8,
and on one there is no video driver. And there never will be
a video driver, since Nvidia announced there won't be. In
response, Windows 8 uses a fallback driver. It runs the
screen at 1024x768 or so, fixed. Too bad the LCD is 1440x900 and
the results look terrible.

Other potential candidate machines, are ruled out by the
NX/XD requirement.

Windows 8 started out with such promise, because it had
a relatively small memory footprint. I reported some
time ago, being able to run the Developer Preview, in
a VM with something like 128MB allocated. (Practically
speaking, it needs a little more than that, but that's
not important now.) As a result of that, it could have
run on my first PC. But the NX/XD requirement, kinda chops
a major chunk of the market away.

The graphics are simple-minded enough, that they could
have been emulated with a little effort (allowing crappy
video cards to work with the new OS). It would allow
more of the market to buy copies of Windows 8 and
experiment with it. For those segments of the market,
where they'd only try Windows 8, if they picked up
an OS box at Best Buy, complete with DVD installer disc.

It's like there was just complete ignorance about
hardware, like the developers had a field day. Maybe
that touch screen article, where it said "developers
might feel constrained by less than 5 finger touch",
is indicative of how "developers" felt about other
aspects of the computers. It's good to have
a potential market, dismissed out of hand like
that. Good... business... sense...

Maybe the idea is, it's an all-out bet about
mobile. Desktops are obsolete, and "we'll bet the
farm on mobile". In one sense that's true. I can
understand that sentiment from the likes of Ballmer.
But most reasonable people (people trying to grow
or maintain a business), also weigh heavily the possibility
of making more money with zero effort. And that's why
some of the decisions just don't make a lot of sense.
Two releases of preview, were free of any NX/XD absolute
requirement. Up it pops in the last release.

Sometimes, when a product seems to lack focus,
you conclude there were "too many fingers in the pie".
And a lot of the decisions were just arbitrary
"shoot from the hip" decisions. I used to work
for people who did that, shoot from the hip, but,
they were remarkably good shots. What sucks, is
when you have management that shoot from the hip,
and aim for the toes.

Paul

[charlie[_2_]]

On 12/1/2012 9:13 PM, BillW50 wrote:
> In ,
> Drew typed:
>> Since I ran both Vista business and now win 7 pro I agree there are
>> similarities and both small and vast differences. One thing I am
>> finding about Windows8 is that it does not like to run on a lot of
>> machines that are more than a couple of years old. Vista would run
>> and quite well. I know as I did it. My original opinion stands as I
>> believe Microsoft is heading in the wrong direction but since I am
>> just the buying public my opinion does not count. Microsoft has
>> never listened to what the buying public wants only what they want to
>> sell you.I think Win 8 is another Millenium or Vista and if windows
>> blue is any indication of what is coming then I think Pc sales will
>> drop even more.
>
> Odd! I am running Windows 8 on a Gateway M465 manufactured back in 2006.
> And it runs just fine. Neither Windows 7 or Windows 8 needed any special
> drivers for my either of my eight M465 machines. Just take the Windows
> install disc and it has everything.
>

"Custom built" machines can be quite troublesome, in that the exact
hardware configuration may exist only on that particular system.
(I've built them now and then since the 386 days!)

Lessons learned

Don't try for all the latest and greatest with price no object.
A level or so down from that usually works out better in the long run.

Choose components with an eye to commonality.
I.E. Just because you can get off brand modems, sound cards,
motherboards, etc. for cheap doesn't mean that they will be supportable.
Don't buy limited production high or low end components, unless there is
a real need. They usually have more problems than you'd like, and
limited production usually means a rapid decline in OEM support.

[Joe Morris]

"charlie" > wrote:

> I always thought it amusing that about the time the last Win release was
> pretty well straightened out, MS releases a new version, and the cycle
> starts all over.

Microsoft certainly seems to follow that pattern, but in fairness to Redmond
it's hardly the first company to use that idea. 'Way back in the mainframe
days the user community expected that behavior from vendors.

In the early 1960s Jackson W. Granholm published a series of humorous
articles in _Datamation_, collectively known as "The Kludge Kapers" (or
occasionally "The Kludge Papers"). In the article titled "The Master Plan
for Kludge Software" you can find these items:

TENET 3. "Distribute new versions of each system as soon as the previous one
is showing signs of being checked-out." This guarantees job security for a
very large segment of the programmer community known as "System
Programmers."

TENET 4. "Whenever a new system is proposed or implemented, refuse to
continue maintenance on some other (any other) existing system." How far
can you make a rubber band stretch? We've already provided for keeping our
programmers busy!

http://www.landsnail.com/thedatadomain/docs/kludge-kaper-papers.pdf

At some point in the early 1970s - when I was the chief system programmer
for my POE - I quoted a couple of the Kludge items to the IBM salesdroid
responsible for my (large) account - and he got up and walked out of the
room. (All in fun; he had a good sense of humor.)

Joe

[Alias[_43_]]

On 12/2/2012 5:12 PM, chrisv wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> On 12/1/2012 9:40 PM, Auric__ put on his net nanny cap wrote:
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> No offense to anyone but at least Vista worked!.. a resource hog
>>>>> that required lots of horsepower but at least it worked on
>>>>> computers built more than 2yrs ago. Go figure that Vista worked on
>>>>> my wife's touchsmart iq804 but not win 8. It is frickin ridiculous
>>>>> that some manufacturers will not update computers older to run win
>>>>> 8. although I think win 8 is a fisher price toy operating system
>>>>> and will definitely not put it on a system that requires any work
>>>>> to be performed with it. My system will stay win7 until something
>>>>> better comes along or start looking at other products.
>>>>
>>>> Check out http://www.netrunner-os.com/
>>>
>>> Please. Keep your distro adverts in the Linux groups.
>>
>> I'll post what I want. Don't like it? Kill file me.
>
> Consider it done!
> *PLONK*

You don't have to be a drama queen about it. Or do you?


--
Alias

[BillW50]

On 12/1/2012 9:05 PM, Paul wrote:
> BillW50 wrote:
>> In ,
>> Drew typed:
>>> Since I ran both Vista business and now win 7 pro I agree there are
>>> similarities and both small and vast differences. One thing I am
>>> finding about Windows8 is that it does not like to run on a lot of
>>> machines that are more than a couple of years old. Vista would run
>>> and quite well. I know as I did it. My original opinion stands as I
>>> believe Microsoft is heading in the wrong direction but since I am
>>> just the buying public my opinion does not count. Microsoft has
>>> never listened to what the buying public wants only what they want to
>>> sell you.I think Win 8 is another Millenium or Vista and if windows
>>> blue is any indication of what is coming then I think Pc sales will
>>> drop even more.
>>
>> Odd! I am running Windows 8 on a Gateway M465 manufactured back in
>> 2006. And it runs just fine. Neither Windows 7 or Windows 8 needed any
>> special drivers for my either of my eight M465 machines. Just take the
>> Windows install disc and it has everything.
>>
>
> I have only two machines here capable of running Windows 8,
> and on one there is no video driver. And there never will be
> a video driver, since Nvidia announced there won't be. In
> response, Windows 8 uses a fallback driver. It runs the
> screen at 1024x768 or so, fixed. Too bad the LCD is 1440x900 and
> the results look terrible.
>
> Other potential candidate machines, are ruled out by the
> NX/XD requirement.
>
> Windows 8 started out with such promise, because it had
> a relatively small memory footprint. I reported some
> time ago, being able to run the Developer Preview, in
> a VM with something like 128MB allocated. (Practically
> speaking, it needs a little more than that, but that's
> not important now.) As a result of that, it could have
> run on my first PC. But the NX/XD requirement, kinda chops
> a major chunk of the market away.
>
> The graphics are simple-minded enough, that they could
> have been emulated with a little effort (allowing crappy
> video cards to work with the new OS). It would allow
> more of the market to buy copies of Windows 8 and
> experiment with it. For those segments of the market,
> where they'd only try Windows 8, if they picked up
> an OS box at Best Buy, complete with DVD installer disc.
>
> It's like there was just complete ignorance about
> hardware, like the developers had a field day. Maybe
> that touch screen article, where it said "developers
> might feel constrained by less than 5 finger touch",
> is indicative of how "developers" felt about other
> aspects of the computers. It's good to have
> a potential market, dismissed out of hand like
> that. Good... business... sense...
>
> Maybe the idea is, it's an all-out bet about
> mobile. Desktops are obsolete, and "we'll bet the
> farm on mobile". In one sense that's true. I can
> understand that sentiment from the likes of Ballmer.
> But most reasonable people (people trying to grow
> or maintain a business), also weigh heavily the possibility
> of making more money with zero effort. And that's why
> some of the decisions just don't make a lot of sense.
> Two releases of preview, were free of any NX/XD absolute
> requirement. Up it pops in the last release.
>
> Sometimes, when a product seems to lack focus,
> you conclude there were "too many fingers in the pie".
> And a lot of the decisions were just arbitrary
> "shoot from the hip" decisions. I used to work
> for people who did that, shoot from the hip, but,
> they were remarkably good shots. What sucks, is
> when you have management that shoot from the hip,
> and aim for the toes.
>
> Paul

All very interesting and usually true, Paul. But what is the big deal
about the NX/XD requirement? I looked up my 20 some computers here and
they all are NX/XD capable. They compose of Celerons, Core Duo, Core2
Duo, Atom, and AMD Turion 64 Mobile. The only exception was my three
netbooks running Celeron 900MHz. They have no NX/XD support. But they
also would be very unsatisfactory for running 7/8 anyway. I did have 7
installed on one of them and it was constantly click and wait and
wait... click and wait and wait... it was so sad. Those same netbooks
run 2000/XP very satisfactory.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12.0.1
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

[Alias[_43_]]

On 12/2/2012 7:20 PM, chrisv wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> On 12/2/2012 5:12 PM, chrisv wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> On 12/1/2012 9:40 PM, Auric__ put on his net nanny cap wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No offense to anyone but at least Vista worked!.. a resource hog
>>>>>>> that required lots of horsepower but at least it worked on
>>>>>>> computers built more than 2yrs ago. Go figure that Vista worked
>>>>>>> on my wife's touchsmart iq804 but not win 8. It is frickin
>>>>>>> ridiculous that some manufacturers will not update computers
>>>>>>> older to run win 8. although I think win 8 is a fisher price toy
>>>>>>> operating system
>>>>>>> and will definitely not put it on a system that requires any work
>>>>>>> to be performed with it. My system will stay win7 until something
>>>>>>> better comes along or start looking at other products.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check out http://www.netrunner-os.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Please. Keep your distro adverts in the Linux groups.
>>>>
>>>> I'll post what I want. Don't like it? Kill file me.
>>>
>>> Consider it done!
>>> *PLONK*
>>
>> You don't have to be a drama queen about it. Or do you?
>
> I'll *PLONK* what I want. Don't like it? Kill file me. ;-)
>

I don't kill file anyone. Never have. I use a little thing called self
control and ignore those posts I'm not interested in. I can see you've
had a change of heart and don't want to miss out on the fun :-)


--
Alias

[BillW50]

On 12/2/2012 6:12 PM, Alias wrote:
> I don't kill file anyone. Never have. I use a little thing called self
> control and ignore those posts I'm not interested in. I can see you've
> had a change of heart and don't want to miss out on the fun :-)

You use self control? That is a good one! You fly off of the handle
every chance you get. I actually picture you beating your fists on the
keyboard and shouting at the monitor most of the time. ;-)

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12.0.1
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

[mechanic]

On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 11:31:38 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

> I looked up my 20 some computers here...

Good grief! Get a life!

[Alias[_43_]]

On 12/3/2012 1:23 AM, BillW50 wrote:
> On 12/2/2012 6:12 PM, Alias wrote:
>> I don't kill file anyone. Never have. I use a little thing called self
>> control and ignore those posts I'm not interested in. I can see you've
>> had a change of heart and don't want to miss out on the fun :-)
>
> You use self control? That is a good one! You fly off of the handle
> every chance you get. I actually picture you beating your fists on the
> keyboard and shouting at the monitor most of the time. ;-)
>

Got any other lying fantasies about me that you would like to share, sport?

--
Alias

[Alias[_43_]]

On 12/3/2012 11:12 AM, mechanic wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 11:31:38 -0600, BillW50 wrote:
>
>> I looked up my 20 some computers here...
>
> Good grief! Get a life!
>

Really!

--
Alias

[BillW50]

In ,
Alias typed:
> On 12/3/2012 1:23 AM, BillW50 wrote:
>> On 12/2/2012 6:12 PM, Alias wrote:
>>> I don't kill file anyone. Never have. I use a little thing called
>>> self control and ignore those posts I'm not interested in. I can
>>> see you've had a change of heart and don't want to miss out on the
>>> fun :-)
>>
>> You use self control? That is a good one! You fly off of the handle
>> every chance you get. I actually picture you beating your fists on
>> the keyboard and shouting at the monitor most of the time. ;-)
>>
>
> Got any other lying fantasies about me that you would like to share,
> sport?

Hardly... you would never find a judge and a jury to agree with you
there. ;-)

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2

[Alias[_43_]]

On 12/3/2012 1:22 PM, BillW50 wrote:
> In ,
> Alias typed:
>> On 12/3/2012 1:23 AM, BillW50 wrote:
>>> On 12/2/2012 6:12 PM, Alias wrote:
>>>> I don't kill file anyone. Never have. I use a little thing called
>>>> self control and ignore those posts I'm not interested in. I can
>>>> see you've had a change of heart and don't want to miss out on the
>>>> fun :-)
>>>
>>> You use self control? That is a good one! You fly off of the handle
>>> every chance you get. I actually picture you beating your fists on
>>> the keyboard and shouting at the monitor most of the time. ;-)
>>>
>>
>> Got any other lying fantasies about me that you would like to share,
>> sport?
>
> Hardly...

Only one, then?

> you would never find a judge and a jury to agree with you
> there. ;-)
>

You're a braggart, give bad advice and should be tending to your dozens
of computers rather than posting here. Anyone who follows your advice is
a FOOL.

--
Alias

[chrisv]

Alias wrote:

> some idiot forging chrisv wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> some idiot forging chrisv wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Consider it done!
>>>> *PLONK*
>>>
>>> You don't have to be a drama queen about it. Or do you?
>>
>> I'll *PLONK* what I want. Don't like it? Kill file me. ;-)
>
>I don't kill file anyone. Never have.

Apparently you don't check headers when someone is being a twit,
either. If you had, you'd see a dizum.com header, a clear indicator
of an anonymous coward and, in this case, forger.

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 10:12:44 +0000, "mechanic" >
wrote in article >...
>
> On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 11:31:38 -0600, BillW50 wrote:
>
> > I looked up my 20 some computers here...
>
> Good grief! Get a life!

+1

--
Zaphod

Adventurer, ex-hippie, good-timer (crook? quite possibly),
manic self-publicist, terrible bad at personal relationships,
often thought to be completely out to lunch.

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:02:42 +0100, "Alias"
> wrote in article <k9i7tk$8nn$1@dont-
email.me>...
>
> On 12/3/2012 1:22 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>
> > you would never find a judge and a jury to agree with you
> > there. ;-)
> >
>
> You're a braggart, give bad advice and should be tending to your dozens
> of computers rather than posting here. Anyone who follows your advice is
> a FOOL.

+1

--
Zaphod

Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven
years in a row.

[Alias[_43_]]

On 12/3/2012 2:03 PM, chrisv wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> some idiot forging chrisv wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> some idiot forging chrisv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Consider it done!
>>>>> *PLONK*
>>>>
>>>> You don't have to be a drama queen about it. Or do you?
>>>
>>> I'll *PLONK* what I want. Don't like it? Kill file me. ;-)
>>
>> I don't kill file anyone. Never have.
>
> Apparently you don't check headers when someone is being a twit,
> either. If you had, you'd see a dizum.com header, a clear indicator
> of an anonymous coward and, in this case, forger.
>

No, I don't regularly check headers.

--
Alias

[Clogwog]

Alias wrote:
> On 12/3/2012 2:03 PM, chrisv wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> some idiot forging chrisv wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> some idiot forging chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Consider it done!
>>>>>> *PLONK*
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't have to be a drama queen about it. Or do you?
>>>>
>>>> I'll *PLONK* what I want. Don't like it? Kill file me. ;-)
>>>
>>> I don't kill file anyone. Never have.
>>
>> Apparently you don't check headers when someone is being a twit,
>> either. If you had, you'd see a dizum.com header, a clear indicator
>> of an anonymous coward and, in this case, forger.
>>
>
> No, I don't regularly check headers.

The problem is that the name "chrisv" is spoofed so often, it is not
possible to tell if claimant A, claimant B, or claimants C, D, E, F, G, H,
I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y or Z are telling the
truth. Of course, unless one trademarks (®) their name, it is a little
difficult to prove "ownership" of a name, especially on Usenet where anyone
can call themselves anything they like, any day of the week.
Given the serious doubts over actual "ownership" of the name "chrisv", you
might consider abusing it yourself (a supposition, not an inducement.) If
splattering about in someone else's dirty bath-water is not your "thing",
you might like to abuse it in other ways (a supposition, not an inducement.)
For example, as a symbolic gesture, you might like to print the name
"chrisv" out in large letters and urinate or/and **** on it, wrap it up and
flush it into the sewer where he belongs.
HTH & GFIA

[Alias[_43_]]

On 12/3/2012 5:40 PM, Clogwog wrote:

> HTH & GFIA

GFIA?

--
Alias

[Hadron[_3_]]

chrisv > writes:

> Alias wrote:
>
>> some idiot forging chrisv wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> some idiot forging chrisv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Consider it done!
>>>>> *PLONK*
>>>>
>>>> You don't have to be a drama queen about it. Or do you?
>>>
>>> I'll *PLONK* what I want. Don't like it? Kill file me. ;-)
>>
>>I don't kill file anyone. Never have.
>
> Apparently you don't check headers when someone is being a twit,
> either. If you had, you'd see a dizum.com header, a clear indicator
> of an anonymous coward and, in this case, forger.
>

Says "intelligent and insightful" turd aka "chrisv".

You tell 'em turd!


--
A certain COLA "advocate" faking his user-agent in order to pretend to be a Linux
user: User-Agent: Outlook 5.5 (WinNT 5.0), User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.0
(Linux), Message-ID: >

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 10:12:44 +0000, mechanic wrote:

> On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 11:31:38 -0600, BillW50 wrote:
>
>> I looked up my 20 some computers here...
>
> Good grief! Get a life!

It looks like Alias, Zaphod, and you don't realize how much BillW50
saves on his heating bills by staying in his computer room and turning
the heat off in the rest of the house.

Please give credit where credit is due.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Chris S.[_4_]]

"Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 10:12:44 +0000, mechanic wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 11:31:38 -0600, BillW50 wrote:
>>
>>> I looked up my 20 some computers here...
>>
>> Good grief! Get a life!
>
> It looks like Alias, Zaphod, and you don't realize how much BillW50
> saves on his heating bills by staying in his computer room and turning
> the heat off in the rest of the house.
>
> Please give credit where credit is due.
>
> --
> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Yes, I have this vision of Bill sitting in his "computer Room"
surrounded by a couple dozen Laptops and desktops, all running.
And the meter outside the house spinning at 7200 RPM like
his Hard Disks... ;)

Chris

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 14:02:52 -0500, Chris S. wrote:

> "Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 10:12:44 +0000, mechanic wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 11:31:38 -0600, BillW50 wrote:
>>>
>>>> I looked up my 20 some computers here...
>>>
>>> Good grief! Get a life!
>>
>> It looks like Alias, Zaphod, and you don't realize how much BillW50
>> saves on his heating bills by staying in his computer room and turning
>> the heat off in the rest of the house.
>>
>> Please give credit where credit is due.
>>
>> --
>> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
>
> Yes, I have this vision of Bill sitting in his "computer Room"
> surrounded by a couple dozen Laptops and desktops, all running.
> And the meter outside the house spinning at 7200 RPM like
> his Hard Disks... ;)
>
> Chris

LOL!

Looks like you've just invented a new concept in data storage...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Clogwog]

Alias wrote:
> On 12/3/2012 5:40 PM, Clogwog wrote:
>
>> HTH & GFIA
>
> GFIA?

Get F***ed In Advance ;-)