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philo [_2_]
December 3rd 12, 02:05 PM
I am currently using Win8 Developer Preview and have Metro disabled

by setting this key to "0"
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer
RPEnabled

I just talked to someone using the "real" version of Win8 and they
claimed there is no such key.

I want to know if I get the "real" version of Win8 if Metro can be disabled.

To me it looks like Win8 without Metro is essentially identical to Win7
but with somewhat better performance.






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Ken Blake[_4_]
December 3rd 12, 03:58 PM
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 08:05:53 -0600, philo* > wrote:

>
> I am currently using Win8 Developer Preview and have Metro disabled
>
> by setting this key to "0"
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer
> RPEnabled
>
> I just talked to someone using the "real" version of Win8 and they
> claimed there is no such key.


I just checked here. There's no such key.


> I want to know if I get the "real" version of Win8 if Metro can be disabled.
>
> To me it looks like Win8 without Metro is essentially identical to Win7
> but with somewhat better performance.


I don't know if it can be disabled, but why should you care? Even if
it's not disabled there's no need to use it you don't want to. I very
seldom do.


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Zaphod Beeblebrox
December 3rd 12, 04:08 PM
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 08:05:53 -0600, "philo*" > wrote
in article >...
>
> I am currently using Win8 Developer Preview and have Metro disabled
>
> by setting this key to "0"
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer
> RPEnabled
>
> I just talked to someone using the "real" version of Win8 and they
> claimed there is no such key.
>
> I want to know if I get the "real" version of Win8 if Metro can be disabled.
>
> To me it looks like Win8 without Metro is essentially identical to Win7
> but with somewhat better performance.

The key does not exist, and creating a DWORD key set to 0 does not
disable Metro on my test system running the time-limited Enterprise
eval version.

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Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's
something big and sinister going on in the world.
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universe gets that.

philo [_2_]
December 3rd 12, 05:11 PM

..winston
December 3rd 12, 08:48 PM
Option to disable the Modern UI doesn't exist.
Loading the Modern UI (fka Metro) is hard-coded (not registry based)
Even supplemental or third party apps scheduled by task or startup are processed after the Modern UI.

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msft mvp


"philo " wrote in message ...


I am currently using Win8 Developer Preview and have Metro disabled

by setting this key to "0"
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer
RPEnabled

I just talked to someone using the "real" version of Win8 and they
claimed there is no such key.

I want to know if I get the "real" version of Win8 if Metro can be disabled.

To me it looks like Win8 without Metro is essentially identical to Win7
but with somewhat better performance.






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https://www.createspace.com/3707686

philo [_2_]
December 4th 12, 01:31 AM
On 12/03/2012 02:48 PM, ..winston wrote:
> Option to disable the Modern UI doesn't exist.
> Loading the Modern UI (fka Metro) is hard-coded (not registry based)
> Even supplemental or third party apps scheduled by task or startup are
> processed after the Modern UI.
>



http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-completely-remove-metro-ui-from-windows-8/

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..winston
December 4th 12, 01:44 AM
Don't let the marketing hype fool you...it's just hiding what's loaded, not removing anything and adding something else.

Reread what I said - scheduled by task or startup! :)

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msft mvp


"philo " wrote in message ...

On 12/03/2012 02:48 PM, ..winston wrote:
> Option to disable the Modern UI doesn't exist.
> Loading the Modern UI (fka Metro) is hard-coded (not registry based)
> Even supplemental or third party apps scheduled by task or startup are
> processed after the Modern UI.
>



http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-completely-remove-metro-ui-from-windows-8/

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philo [_2_]
December 4th 12, 01:51 AM
On 12/03/2012 07:44 PM, ..winston wrote:
> Don't let the marketing hype fool you...it's just hiding what's loaded,
> not removing anything and adding something else.
>
> Reread what I said - scheduled by task or startup! :)
>


Well, it may not remove Metro
but as long as it's disabled that's fine with me.

I am currently using W8dp without Metro and it's virtually identical to
Win7...I actually like it.
It seems a bit better on resources than Win7

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..winston
December 5th 12, 12:54 AM
In time a lot more (tweaks) will arrive. Windows has always been one of the most tweaked o/s.
And also subject to Microsoft updating files that tweaker applications use and breaking those tweaks necessitating updates from the
3rd party app....unfortunately not all 3rd party applications survive for the duration of an o/s lifecycle.


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msft mvp


"philo " wrote in message ...

On 12/03/2012 07:44 PM, ..winston wrote:
> Don't let the marketing hype fool you...it's just hiding what's loaded,
> not removing anything and adding something else.
>
> Reread what I said - scheduled by task or startup! :)
>


Well, it may not remove Metro
but as long as it's disabled that's fine with me.

I am currently using W8dp without Metro and it's virtually identical to
Win7...I actually like it.
It seems a bit better on resources than Win7

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philo [_2_]
December 5th 12, 09:44 AM
On 12/04/2012 06:54 PM, ..winston wrote:
> In time a lot more (tweaks) will arrive. Windows has always been one of
> the most tweaked o/s.
> And also subject to Microsoft updating files that tweaker applications
> use and breaking those tweaks necessitating updates from the 3rd party
> app....unfortunately not all 3rd party applications survive for the
> duration of an o/s lifecycle.
>
>


I do a lot of computer repair work and need to stay current.
Only now am I getting Win7 machines in...so it will be a while before I
start seeing Win8.

For anyone not using a tablet or touch screen,
Win8 without Metro looks like a good alternative to Win7.

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Rob
December 6th 12, 06:36 AM
On 5/12/2012 8:44 PM, philo wrote:
> On 12/04/2012 06:54 PM, ..winston wrote:
>> In time a lot more (tweaks) will arrive. Windows has always been one of
>> the most tweaked o/s.
>> And also subject to Microsoft updating files that tweaker applications
>> use and breaking those tweaks necessitating updates from the 3rd party
>> app....unfortunately not all 3rd party applications survive for the
>> duration of an o/s lifecycle.
>>
>>
>
>
> I do a lot of computer repair work and need to stay current.
> Only now am I getting Win7 machines in...so it will be a while before I
> start seeing Win8.
>
> For anyone not using a tablet or touch screen,
> Win8 without Metro looks like a good alternative to Win7.
>

Good to stay current, work through problem things, as they come up and
know the answer.

Although I have only one test computer with W8 to get familiar.

philo [_2_]
December 6th 12, 10:59 AM
On 12/06/2012 12:36 AM, Rob wrote:
> On 5/12/2012 8:44 PM, philo wrote:
>> On 12/04/2012 06:54 PM, ..winston wrote:
>>> In time a lot more (tweaks) will arrive. Windows has always been one of
>>> the most tweaked o/s.
>>> And also subject to Microsoft updating files that tweaker applications
>>> use and breaking those tweaks necessitating updates from the 3rd party
>>> app....unfortunately not all 3rd party applications survive for the
>>> duration of an o/s lifecycle.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I do a lot of computer repair work and need to stay current.
>> Only now am I getting Win7 machines in...so it will be a while before I
>> start seeing Win8.
>>
>> For anyone not using a tablet or touch screen,
>> Win8 without Metro looks like a good alternative to Win7.
>>
>
> Good to stay current, work through problem things, as they come up and
> know the answer.
>
> Although I have only one test computer with W8 to get familiar.



Same here...and it's the developer preview which will expire soon.

Most of the machines I work on are still XP...

only recently have I been getting Win7 machines

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Zaphod Beeblebrox
December 6th 12, 01:51 PM
On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 04:59:11 -0600, "philo*" > wrote
in article >...
>
> On 12/06/2012 12:36 AM, Rob wrote:
> > On 5/12/2012 8:44 PM, philo wrote:
> >> On 12/04/2012 06:54 PM, ..winston wrote:
> >>> In time a lot more (tweaks) will arrive. Windows has always been one of
> >>> the most tweaked o/s.
> >>> And also subject to Microsoft updating files that tweaker applications
> >>> use and breaking those tweaks necessitating updates from the 3rd party
> >>> app....unfortunately not all 3rd party applications survive for the
> >>> duration of an o/s lifecycle.
> >>
> >> I do a lot of computer repair work and need to stay current.
> >> Only now am I getting Win7 machines in...so it will be a while before I
> >> start seeing Win8.
> >>
> >> For anyone not using a tablet or touch screen,
> >> Win8 without Metro looks like a good alternative to Win7.
> >>
> >
> > Good to stay current, work through problem things, as they come up and
> > know the answer.
> >
> > Although I have only one test computer with W8 to get familiar.
>
> Same here...and it's the developer preview which will expire soon.
>

Switch to the Enterprise Evaluation version - 90 day trial period, but
you can reinstall as many times as you like (and there may be ways to
extend the eval period, I haven't looked yet.)

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Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's
something big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the
universe gets that.

philo [_2_]
December 6th 12, 03:02 PM
On 12/06/2012 07:51 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 04:59:11 -0600, "philo " > wrote
> in article >...
>>
X
<snip>

>
> Switch to the Enterprise Evaluation version - 90 day trial period, but
> you can reinstall as many times as you like (and there may be ways to
> extend the eval period, I haven't looked yet.)
>

Basically I just wanted to see what Win8 was all about. I do not plan to
actually use it..so when it expires I'll just let it.

I am in no rush to do things...it took me until yesterday to update my
main machine (which runs Linux w/ PAE kernel)

I removed the HD from my ten year old machine and popped it on one only
five years old!


The old machine was a dual core XP3800 with 4 gigs of DDR1 400mhz (the
case is a Gateway P-1 tower)

the new machine....a dual core XP6000 with 4 gigs of DDR2 800mhz (The
case is a CIC system P-II tower)

A real nice difference in performance...more than likely due mostly to
the faster RAM
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