Win 8 on a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop, and Office 2010 removing.

[Mick[_7_]]

Hi all,
I am buying a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop.
With Win 8 on it.

The spec says it has Microsoft Office 2010 preloaded and to purchase
a key if wanting to use it.
I have a paid for Office 2007 full suite of programmes and a key for
it, I will remove it from my older Win XP computer.
Will Office 2010 be fully installed and require removing before I
install my Office 2007, or does it install only when it is activated?

I expect there will be some crap programmes on it, if anyone knows the
Acer Aspire V5-571 are there any I should not remove?
Thanks for any help,
Mick IOW.

[BillW50]

On 12/6/2012 2:11 PM, Mick wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am buying a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop.
> With Win 8 on it.
>
> The spec says it has Microsoft Office 2010 preloaded and to purchase
> a key if wanting to use it.
> I have a paid for Office 2007 full suite of programmes and a key for
> it, I will remove it from my older Win XP computer.
> Will Office 2010 be fully installed and require removing before I
> install my Office 2007, or does it install only when it is activated?
>
> I expect there will be some crap programmes on it, if anyone knows the
> Acer Aspire V5-571 are there any I should not remove?
> Thanks for any help,
> Mick IOW.

I don't know why Microsoft has done it this way, but you can only have
one version of Office per OS. Since you don't have a key for Office
2010, you would be stuck with Office 2010 Starter I am assuming. And
that might not work out for you as full blown Office 2007 would be
better. So you must uninstall Office 2010 first, then install Office 2007.

--
Bill
Dell Latitute Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('11 era) - Thunderbird v12
Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB - Windows 7 SP1

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:18:43 -0600, "BillW50" > wrote
in article >...
>
> On 12/6/2012 2:11 PM, Mick wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I am buying a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop.
> > With Win 8 on it.
> >
> > The spec says it has Microsoft Office 2010 preloaded and to purchase
> > a key if wanting to use it.
> > I have a paid for Office 2007 full suite of programmes and a key for
> > it, I will remove it from my older Win XP computer.
> > Will Office 2010 be fully installed and require removing before I
> > install my Office 2007, or does it install only when it is activated?
> >
> > I expect there will be some crap programmes on it, if anyone knows the
> > Acer Aspire V5-571 are there any I should not remove?
> > Thanks for any help,
> > Mick IOW.
>
> I don't know why Microsoft has done it this way, but you can only have
> one version of Office per OS.

Not true. The only problem I've encountered with installing multiple
copies of Office is that you can't run multiple copies of Outlook.

That said, I seem to recall you need to do them from oldest to newest,
like with Windows versions, so I don't know if the OP can install the
older version of Office since the new version is already installed.
And since the OP doesn't intend to use the newer version, there is no
reason not to uninstall it first.

--
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the Second, my grandfather Zaphod Beeblebrox the Third..."

"What?"

"There was an accident with a contraceptive and a time machine. Now
concentrate!"

[Rob]

On 7/12/2012 7:28 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:18:43 -0600, "BillW50" > wrote
> in article >...
>>
>> On 12/6/2012 2:11 PM, Mick wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am buying a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop.
>>> With Win 8 on it.
>>>
>>> The spec says it has Microsoft Office 2010 preloaded and to purchase
>>> a key if wanting to use it.
>>> I have a paid for Office 2007 full suite of programmes and a key for
>>> it, I will remove it from my older Win XP computer.
>>> Will Office 2010 be fully installed and require removing before I
>>> install my Office 2007, or does it install only when it is activated?
>>>
>>> I expect there will be some crap programmes on it, if anyone knows the
>>> Acer Aspire V5-571 are there any I should not remove?
>>> Thanks for any help,
>>> Mick IOW.
>>
>> I don't know why Microsoft has done it this way, but you can only have
>> one version of Office per OS.
>
> Not true. The only problem I've encountered with installing multiple
> copies of Office is that you can't run multiple copies of Outlook.
>
> That said, I seem to recall you need to do them from oldest to newest,
> like with Windows versions, so I don't know if the OP can install the
> older version of Office since the new version is already installed.
> And since the OP doesn't intend to use the newer version, there is no
> reason not to uninstall it first.
>
Well how come then, on a x64 system, having 2007 installed then update
to 2010 it needs to uninstall 2007 before accepting 2010.

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:18:15 +1100, "Rob" > wrote
in article >...
>
> On 7/12/2012 7:28 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> > On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:18:43 -0600, "BillW50" > wrote
> > in article >...
> >>
> >> On 12/6/2012 2:11 PM, Mick wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>> I am buying a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop.
> >>> With Win 8 on it.
> >>>
> >>> The spec says it has Microsoft Office 2010 preloaded and to purchase
> >>> a key if wanting to use it.
> >>> I have a paid for Office 2007 full suite of programmes and a key for
> >>> it, I will remove it from my older Win XP computer.
> >>> Will Office 2010 be fully installed and require removing before I
> >>> install my Office 2007, or does it install only when it is activated?
> >>>
> >>> I expect there will be some crap programmes on it, if anyone knows the
> >>> Acer Aspire V5-571 are there any I should not remove?
> >>> Thanks for any help,
> >>> Mick IOW.
> >>
> >> I don't know why Microsoft has done it this way, but you can only have
> >> one version of Office per OS.
> >
> > Not true. The only problem I've encountered with installing multiple
> > copies of Office is that you can't run multiple copies of Outlook.
> >
> > That said, I seem to recall you need to do them from oldest to newest,
> > like with Windows versions, so I don't know if the OP can install the
> > older version of Office since the new version is already installed.
> > And since the OP doesn't intend to use the newer version, there is no
> > reason not to uninstall it first.
> >
> Well how come then, on a x64 system, having 2007 installed then update
> to 2010 it needs to uninstall 2007 before accepting 2010.

Well I don't know. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2121447 where
MS tells you how to do it.

My best guess is that the 2007 Office was 32-bit and the 2010 Office
was 64-bit, because MS says:

"There is no support for running 64-bit versions of Office 2010 suites
or programs with any 32-bit version of Office on the same computer. The
Setup program will detect that you have previous 32-bit versions of
Office programs on your computer and will require that they are removed
before you can install Office 2010 64-bit."
"

--
Zaphod

Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, ya know? - Gag Halfrunt

[BillW50]

On 12/6/2012 3:33 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:18:15 +1100, > wrote
> in >...
>>
>> On 7/12/2012 7:28 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:18:43 -0600, > wrote
>>> in >...
>>>>
>>>> On 12/6/2012 2:11 PM, Mick wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I am buying a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop.
>>>>> With Win 8 on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The spec says it has Microsoft Office 2010 preloaded and to purchase
>>>>> a key if wanting to use it.
>>>>> I have a paid for Office 2007 full suite of programmes and a key for
>>>>> it, I will remove it from my older Win XP computer.
>>>>> Will Office 2010 be fully installed and require removing before I
>>>>> install my Office 2007, or does it install only when it is activated?
>>>>>
>>>>> I expect there will be some crap programmes on it, if anyone knows the
>>>>> Acer Aspire V5-571 are there any I should not remove?
>>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>> Mick IOW.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know why Microsoft has done it this way, but you can only have
>>>> one version of Office per OS.
>>>
>>> Not true. The only problem I've encountered with installing multiple
>>> copies of Office is that you can't run multiple copies of Outlook.
>>>
>>> That said, I seem to recall you need to do them from oldest to newest,
>>> like with Windows versions, so I don't know if the OP can install the
>>> older version of Office since the new version is already installed.
>>> And since the OP doesn't intend to use the newer version, there is no
>>> reason not to uninstall it first.
>>>
>> Well how come then, on a x64 system, having 2007 installed then update
>> to 2010 it needs to uninstall 2007 before accepting 2010.
>
> Well I don't know. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2121447 where
> MS tells you how to do it.
>
> My best guess is that the 2007 Office was 32-bit and the 2010 Office
> was 64-bit, because MS says:
>
> "There is no support for running 64-bit versions of Office 2010 suites
> or programs with any 32-bit version of Office on the same computer. The
> Setup program will detect that you have previous 32-bit versions of
> Office programs on your computer and will require that they are removed
> before you can install Office 2010 64-bit."

I know you can't have more than one version of Office 95, 97, 2000, XP,
or 2003 on the same Windows. I am not sure of 2007, 2010, or 2012.

--
Bill
Dell Latitute Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('11 era) - Thunderbird v12
Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB - Windows 7 SP1

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:38:27 -0600, "BillW50" > wrote
in article >...
>
> On 12/6/2012 3:33 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> > On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:18:15 +1100, > wrote
> > in >...
> >>
> >> On 7/12/2012 7:28 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:18:43 -0600, > wrote
> >>> in >...
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12/6/2012 2:11 PM, Mick wrote:
> >>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>> I am buying a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop.
> >>>>> With Win 8 on it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The spec says it has Microsoft Office 2010 preloaded and to purchase
> >>>>> a key if wanting to use it.
> >>>>> I have a paid for Office 2007 full suite of programmes and a key for
> >>>>> it, I will remove it from my older Win XP computer.
> >>>>> Will Office 2010 be fully installed and require removing before I
> >>>>> install my Office 2007, or does it install only when it is activated?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I expect there will be some crap programmes on it, if anyone knows the
> >>>>> Acer Aspire V5-571 are there any I should not remove?
> >>>>> Thanks for any help,
> >>>>> Mick IOW.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know why Microsoft has done it this way, but you can only have
> >>>> one version of Office per OS.
> >>>
> >>> Not true. The only problem I've encountered with installing multiple
> >>> copies of Office is that you can't run multiple copies of Outlook.
> >>>
> >>> That said, I seem to recall you need to do them from oldest to newest,
> >>> like with Windows versions, so I don't know if the OP can install the
> >>> older version of Office since the new version is already installed.
> >>> And since the OP doesn't intend to use the newer version, there is no
> >>> reason not to uninstall it first.
> >>>
> >> Well how come then, on a x64 system, having 2007 installed then update
> >> to 2010 it needs to uninstall 2007 before accepting 2010.
> >
> > Well I don't know. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2121447 where
> > MS tells you how to do it.
> >
> > My best guess is that the 2007 Office was 32-bit and the 2010 Office
> > was 64-bit, because MS says:
> >
> > "There is no support for running 64-bit versions of Office 2010 suites
> > or programs with any 32-bit version of Office on the same computer. The
> > Setup program will detect that you have previous 32-bit versions of
> > Office programs on your computer and will require that they are removed
> > before you can install Office 2010 64-bit."
>
> I know you can't have more than one version of Office 95, 97, 2000, XP,
> or 2003 on the same Windows. I am not sure of 2007, 2010, or 2012.


Sure you can. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290576 which lists
exactly those versions:

Office Installation
version order
---------------------------
4.2 or 4.3 First
95 Second
97 Third
2000 Fourth
XP Fifth


--
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The effect of one is like having your brain smashed out
by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 16:41:09 -0500, "Zaphod Beeblebrox"
> wrote in article
>...
>
> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:38:27 -0600, "BillW50" > wrote
> in article >...
> >
> >
> > I know you can't have more than one version of Office 95, 97, 2000, XP,
> > or 2003 on the same Windows. I am not sure of 2007, 2010, or 2012.
>
>
> Sure you can. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290576 which lists
> exactly those versions:
>
> Office Installation
> version order
> ---------------------------
> 4.2 or 4.3 First
> 95 Second
> 97 Third
> 2000 Fourth
> XP Fifth


Sorry, that's the article for Office XP. For Office 2003, see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828956 which lists:


Office Installation
Version Order
--------------------------
Office 97 First
Office 2000 Second
Office XP Third
Office 2003 Fourth

--
Zaphod

Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven
years in a row.

[Rob]

On 7/12/2012 8:38 AM, BillW50 wrote:
> On 12/6/2012 3:33 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>> On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:18:15 +1100, > wrote
>> in >...
>>>
>>> On 7/12/2012 7:28 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:18:43 -0600, > wrote
>>>> in >...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/6/2012 2:11 PM, Mick wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> I am buying a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop.
>>>>>> With Win 8 on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The spec says it has Microsoft Office 2010 preloaded and to purchase
>>>>>> a key if wanting to use it.
>>>>>> I have a paid for Office 2007 full suite of programmes and a key for
>>>>>> it, I will remove it from my older Win XP computer.
>>>>>> Will Office 2010 be fully installed and require removing before I
>>>>>> install my Office 2007, or does it install only when it is activated?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I expect there will be some crap programmes on it, if anyone knows
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Acer Aspire V5-571 are there any I should not remove?
>>>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>>> Mick IOW.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know why Microsoft has done it this way, but you can only have
>>>>> one version of Office per OS.
>>>>
>>>> Not true. The only problem I've encountered with installing multiple
>>>> copies of Office is that you can't run multiple copies of Outlook.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I seem to recall you need to do them from oldest to newest,
>>>> like with Windows versions, so I don't know if the OP can install the
>>>> older version of Office since the new version is already installed.
>>>> And since the OP doesn't intend to use the newer version, there is no
>>>> reason not to uninstall it first.
>>>>
>>> Well how come then, on a x64 system, having 2007 installed then update
>>> to 2010 it needs to uninstall 2007 before accepting 2010.
>>
>> Well I don't know. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2121447 where
>> MS tells you how to do it.
>>
>> My best guess is that the 2007 Office was 32-bit and the 2010 Office
>> was 64-bit, because MS says:
>>
>> "There is no support for running 64-bit versions of Office 2010 suites
>> or programs with any 32-bit version of Office on the same computer. The
>> Setup program will detect that you have previous 32-bit versions of
>> Office programs on your computer and will require that they are removed
>> before you can install Office 2010 64-bit."
>
> I know you can't have more than one version of Office 95, 97, 2000, XP,
> or 2003 on the same Windows. I am not sure of 2007, 2010, or 2012.
>
and why would you want to?

[BillW50]

On 12/6/2012 3:50 PM, Rob wrote:
> On 7/12/2012 8:38 AM, BillW50 wrote:
>> On 12/6/2012 3:33 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>> On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:18:15 +1100, > wrote
>>> in >...
>>>>
>>>> On 7/12/2012 7:28 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:18:43 -0600, > wrote
>>>>> in >...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/6/2012 2:11 PM, Mick wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> I am buying a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop.
>>>>>>> With Win 8 on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The spec says it has Microsoft Office 2010 preloaded and to purchase
>>>>>>> a key if wanting to use it.
>>>>>>> I have a paid for Office 2007 full suite of programmes and a key for
>>>>>>> it, I will remove it from my older Win XP computer.
>>>>>>> Will Office 2010 be fully installed and require removing before I
>>>>>>> install my Office 2007, or does it install only when it is
>>>>>>> activated?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I expect there will be some crap programmes on it, if anyone knows
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Acer Aspire V5-571 are there any I should not remove?
>>>>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>>>> Mick IOW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know why Microsoft has done it this way, but you can only
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> one version of Office per OS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not true. The only problem I've encountered with installing multiple
>>>>> copies of Office is that you can't run multiple copies of Outlook.
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, I seem to recall you need to do them from oldest to newest,
>>>>> like with Windows versions, so I don't know if the OP can install the
>>>>> older version of Office since the new version is already installed.
>>>>> And since the OP doesn't intend to use the newer version, there is no
>>>>> reason not to uninstall it first.
>>>>>
>>>> Well how come then, on a x64 system, having 2007 installed then update
>>>> to 2010 it needs to uninstall 2007 before accepting 2010.
>>>
>>> Well I don't know. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2121447 where
>>> MS tells you how to do it.
>>>
>>> My best guess is that the 2007 Office was 32-bit and the 2010 Office
>>> was 64-bit, because MS says:
>>>
>>> "There is no support for running 64-bit versions of Office 2010 suites
>>> or programs with any 32-bit version of Office on the same computer. The
>>> Setup program will detect that you have previous 32-bit versions of
>>> Office programs on your computer and will require that they are removed
>>> before you can install Office 2010 64-bit."
>>
>> I know you can't have more than one version of Office 95, 97, 2000, XP,
>> or 2003 on the same Windows. I am not sure of 2007, 2010, or 2012.
>>
> and why would you want to?

Because they have taken some features away from newer versions. ;-)

--
Bill
Dell Latitute Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('11 era) - Thunderbird v12
Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB - Windows 7 SP1

[Paul in Houston TX]

Mick wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am buying a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop.
> With Win 8 on it.
>
> The spec says it has Microsoft Office 2010 preloaded and to purchase
> a key if wanting to use it.
> I have a paid for Office 2007 full suite of programmes and a key for
> it, I will remove it from my older Win XP computer.
> Will Office 2010 be fully installed and require removing before I
> install my Office 2007, or does it install only when it is activated?
>
> I expect there will be some crap programmes on it, if anyone knows the
> Acer Aspire V5-571 are there any I should not remove?
> Thanks for any help,
> Mick IOW.

2010 and 2007... I dont know. However...
Office 2010 and 2003 both work just fine on my 7-32 laptop.
It came with 2010 and I later installed 2003.
I did do extensive mod to the registry in order to make
the default 2003. I don't like Ribbon Ware at all but have
to have it for Outlook and Communicator.

[BillW50]

On 12/6/2012 5:15 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
> Mick wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I am buying a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop.
>> With Win 8 on it.
>>
>> The spec says it has Microsoft Office 2010 preloaded and to purchase
>> a key if wanting to use it.
>> I have a paid for Office 2007 full suite of programmes and a key for
>> it, I will remove it from my older Win XP computer.
>> Will Office 2010 be fully installed and require removing before I
>> install my Office 2007, or does it install only when it is activated?
>>
>> I expect there will be some crap programmes on it, if anyone knows the
>> Acer Aspire V5-571 are there any I should not remove?
>> Thanks for any help,
>> Mick IOW.
>
> 2010 and 2007... I dont know. However...
> Office 2010 and 2003 both work just fine on my 7-32 laptop.
> It came with 2010 and I later installed 2003.
> I did do extensive mod to the registry in order to make
> the default 2003. I don't like Ribbon Ware at all but have
> to have it for Outlook and Communicator.

Microsoft says a lot of things that isn't really true. For example MS
says you can't boot Windows (XP in the case I am thinking of) from an
USB drive. You can, but it takes about three pages of registry hacks to
make it happen. Later I think people made this mod seamless, although I
never tried them.

--
Bill
Dell Latitute Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('11 era) - Thunderbird v12
Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB - Windows 7 SP1

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Mick" > wrote in message
...
> Hi all,
> I am buying a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop.
> With Win 8 on it.
>
> The spec says it has Microsoft Office 2010 preloaded and to purchase
> a key if wanting to use it.
> I have a paid for Office 2007 full suite of programmes and a key for
> it, I will remove it from my older Win XP computer.
> Will Office 2010 be fully installed and require removing before I
> install my Office 2007, or does it install only when it is activated?
>
> I expect there will be some crap programmes on it, if anyone knows the
> Acer Aspire V5-571 are there any I should not remove?
> Thanks for any help,
> Mick IOW.

I have an Aspire V3-731, and was surprised at the amount of bloatware it
DOESN'T have. Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of it, but nowhere near
what I'm used to seeing on HP and (older) Compaq laptops. I got rid of most
of it, but some of it is necessary or at least likable. I kept Dolby Home
Theater (nice sound customization with it) and almost all of the Intel
add-ons. Skype was included if you want it. And one of the Acer programs you
must keep if you want the FN keys to work correctly is Launch Manager.
There's only the Win7 version of it, but it works well on Win8 as-is (since
yours has Win8 from the factory, you won't have to worry about that).

It's kind of a pick-and-Google. Some of the programs I've never heard of,
like Evernote and Cyberlink MediaEspresso. I got rid of Evernote, but still
haven't made up my mind on the Cyberlink program. Once I cleaned off all the
crapware, I cloned the drive and put it on a shelf. Don't know why I still
have that since I've made a number of disk images since :-)

I don't recall if Office of any flavor was on mine, but since I own a copy
of Office Pro 2003, I installed what I wanted from it. My guess is if it was
included, it was either Starter or a trial version.
--
SC Tom

[..winston]

"BillW50" wrote in message ...

>
I don't know why Microsoft has done it this way, but you can only have
one version of Office per OS. Since you don't have a key for Office
2010, you would be stuck with Office 2010 Starter I am assuming. And
that might not work out for you as full blown Office 2007 would be
better. So you must uninstall Office 2010 first, then install Office 2007.
>

Incorrect on the first, correct on the second.

Side-by-side installations of Office have been permitted for Office for years (nine versions including the current 2013) as long as
the later version is installed after the earlier version. The only limitation is Outlook. Only one version of Outlook can exist on
the same installed o/s thus installing any later version of Outlook (if chosen to be installed) will always replace the prior
Outlook version even if one follows the correct method to install a later version of Office for a side-by-side configuration.

In the case of the op with the pre-installed version (trial or OEM bundled non-trial version)....the op should remove Office 2010,
shutdown/restart/verify Office 2010 and other possible preinstalled components (Hotmail Connector, Social Connector, Social
Provider for Messenger, Facebook, etc) are not present in Programs and Features and then install Office 2007. If other components
mentioned above are present (sometime preinstalled by OEM) for best results they should be removed via Programs and Features before
attempting to install Office 2007.


--
....winston
msft mvp

[Rob]

On 7/12/2012 8:55 AM, BillW50 wrote:
> On 12/6/2012 3:50 PM, Rob wrote:
>> On 7/12/2012 8:38 AM, BillW50 wrote:
>>> On 12/6/2012 3:33 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:18:15 +1100, > wrote
>>>> in >...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/12/2012 7:28 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:18:43 -0600, > wrote
>>>>>> in >...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/6/2012 2:11 PM, Mick wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> I am buying a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop.
>>>>>>>> With Win 8 on it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The spec says it has Microsoft Office 2010 preloaded and to
>>>>>>>> purchase
>>>>>>>> a key if wanting to use it.
>>>>>>>> I have a paid for Office 2007 full suite of programmes and a key
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> it, I will remove it from my older Win XP computer.
>>>>>>>> Will Office 2010 be fully installed and require removing before I
>>>>>>>> install my Office 2007, or does it install only when it is
>>>>>>>> activated?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I expect there will be some crap programmes on it, if anyone knows
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Acer Aspire V5-571 are there any I should not remove?
>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>>>>> Mick IOW.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know why Microsoft has done it this way, but you can only
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> one version of Office per OS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not true. The only problem I've encountered with installing multiple
>>>>>> copies of Office is that you can't run multiple copies of Outlook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, I seem to recall you need to do them from oldest to
>>>>>> newest,
>>>>>> like with Windows versions, so I don't know if the OP can install the
>>>>>> older version of Office since the new version is already installed.
>>>>>> And since the OP doesn't intend to use the newer version, there is no
>>>>>> reason not to uninstall it first.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well how come then, on a x64 system, having 2007 installed then update
>>>>> to 2010 it needs to uninstall 2007 before accepting 2010.
>>>>
>>>> Well I don't know. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2121447 where
>>>> MS tells you how to do it.
>>>>
>>>> My best guess is that the 2007 Office was 32-bit and the 2010 Office
>>>> was 64-bit, because MS says:
>>>>
>>>> "There is no support for running 64-bit versions of Office 2010 suites
>>>> or programs with any 32-bit version of Office on the same computer. The
>>>> Setup program will detect that you have previous 32-bit versions of
>>>> Office programs on your computer and will require that they are removed
>>>> before you can install Office 2010 64-bit."
>>>
>>> I know you can't have more than one version of Office 95, 97, 2000, XP,
>>> or 2003 on the same Windows. I am not sure of 2007, 2010, or 2012.
>>>
>> and why would you want to?
>
> Because they have taken some features away from newer versions. ;-)
>
Get with the programme.

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:50:08 +1100, "Rob" > wrote
in article >...
>
> On 7/12/2012 8:38 AM, BillW50 wrote:
> > On 12/6/2012 3:33 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> >> On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:18:15 +1100, > wrote
> >> in >...
> >>>
> >>> On 7/12/2012 7:28 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:18:43 -0600, > wrote
> >>>> in >...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 12/6/2012 2:11 PM, Mick wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>> I am buying a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop.
> >>>>>> With Win 8 on it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The spec says it has Microsoft Office 2010 preloaded and to purchase
> >>>>>> a key if wanting to use it.
> >>>>>> I have a paid for Office 2007 full suite of programmes and a key for
> >>>>>> it, I will remove it from my older Win XP computer.
> >>>>>> Will Office 2010 be fully installed and require removing before I
> >>>>>> install my Office 2007, or does it install only when it is activated?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I expect there will be some crap programmes on it, if anyone knows
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> Acer Aspire V5-571 are there any I should not remove?
> >>>>>> Thanks for any help,
> >>>>>> Mick IOW.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't know why Microsoft has done it this way, but you can only have
> >>>>> one version of Office per OS.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not true. The only problem I've encountered with installing multiple
> >>>> copies of Office is that you can't run multiple copies of Outlook.
> >>>>
> >>>> That said, I seem to recall you need to do them from oldest to newest,
> >>>> like with Windows versions, so I don't know if the OP can install the
> >>>> older version of Office since the new version is already installed.
> >>>> And since the OP doesn't intend to use the newer version, there is no
> >>>> reason not to uninstall it first.
> >>>>
> >>> Well how come then, on a x64 system, having 2007 installed then update
> >>> to 2010 it needs to uninstall 2007 before accepting 2010.
> >>
> >> Well I don't know. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2121447 where
> >> MS tells you how to do it.
> >>
> >> My best guess is that the 2007 Office was 32-bit and the 2010 Office
> >> was 64-bit, because MS says:
> >>
> >> "There is no support for running 64-bit versions of Office 2010 suites
> >> or programs with any 32-bit version of Office on the same computer. The
> >> Setup program will detect that you have previous 32-bit versions of
> >> Office programs on your computer and will require that they are removed
> >> before you can install Office 2010 64-bit."
> >
> > I know you can't have more than one version of Office 95, 97, 2000, XP,
> > or 2003 on the same Windows. I am not sure of 2007, 2010, or 2012.
> >
> and why would you want to?

For me, it is more about compatibility testing with several products
I'm involved with than anything. I'm not sure why you would do it
otherwise.

--
Zaphod

"The best Bang since the Big One" - Eccentrica Gallumbits

[ray]

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:36:40 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

> On 12/6/2012 5:15 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
>> Mick wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am buying a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop. With Win 8 on it.
>>>
>>> The spec says it has Microsoft Office 2010 preloaded and to purchase a
>>> key if wanting to use it.
>>> I have a paid for Office 2007 full suite of programmes and a key for
>>> it, I will remove it from my older Win XP computer. Will Office 2010
>>> be fully installed and require removing before I install my Office
>>> 2007, or does it install only when it is activated?
>>>
>>> I expect there will be some crap programmes on it, if anyone knows the
>>> Acer Aspire V5-571 are there any I should not remove? Thanks for any
>>> help,
>>> Mick IOW.
>>
>> 2010 and 2007... I dont know. However... Office 2010 and 2003 both work
>> just fine on my 7-32 laptop. It came with 2010 and I later installed
>> 2003. I did do extensive mod to the registry in order to make the
>> default 2003. I don't like Ribbon Ware at all but have to have it for
>> Outlook and Communicator.
>
> Microsoft says a lot of things that isn't really true. For example MS
> says you can't boot Windows (XP in the case I am thinking of) from an
> USB drive. You can, but it takes about three pages of registry hacks to
> make it happen. Later I think people made this mod seamless, although I
> never tried them.

"can't do" in the computer world often means "we don't support".

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

On 7 Dec 2012 15:58:25 GMT, "ray" > wrote in article
>...
>
> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:36:40 -0600, BillW50 wrote:
>
> > On 12/6/2012 5:15 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
> >> Mick wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>> I am buying a new Acer Aspire V5-571 Laptop. With Win 8 on it.
> >>>
> >>> The spec says it has Microsoft Office 2010 preloaded and to purchase a
> >>> key if wanting to use it.
> >>> I have a paid for Office 2007 full suite of programmes and a key for
> >>> it, I will remove it from my older Win XP computer. Will Office 2010
> >>> be fully installed and require removing before I install my Office
> >>> 2007, or does it install only when it is activated?
> >>>
> >>> I expect there will be some crap programmes on it, if anyone knows the
> >>> Acer Aspire V5-571 are there any I should not remove? Thanks for any
> >>> help,
> >>> Mick IOW.
> >>
> >> 2010 and 2007... I dont know. However... Office 2010 and 2003 both work
> >> just fine on my 7-32 laptop. It came with 2010 and I later installed
> >> 2003. I did do extensive mod to the registry in order to make the
> >> default 2003. I don't like Ribbon Ware at all but have to have it for
> >> Outlook and Communicator.
> >
> > Microsoft says a lot of things that isn't really true. For example MS
> > says you can't boot Windows (XP in the case I am thinking of) from an
> > USB drive. You can, but it takes about three pages of registry hacks to
> > make it happen. Later I think people made this mod seamless, although I
> > never tried them.
>
> "can't do" in the computer world often means "we don't support".

Well, in the case of booting XP to a USB drive, it was a bit more than
that. The USB drivers needed to be configured as critical boot devices
which isn't a trivial matter in XP. Though, as I understand it, things
are different in Win8 though I haven't tried it myself.

--
Zaphod

Adventurer, ex-hippie, good-timer (crook? quite possibly),
manic self-publicist, terrible bad at personal relationships,
often thought to be completely out to lunch.