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Jean-Noël Robin
December 29th 12, 09:38 PM
Hello,

On the rear panel of mobo Asus P8Z77 VLK, I have a port USB 3.0 E_12.

I don't understand the meaning of this distinction(I had waited for a port
USB 3.0 3-4).

Anymore help?

Thanks

Paul
December 30th 12, 12:13 AM
Jean-Noël Robin wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On the rear panel of mobo Asus P8Z77 VLK, I have a port USB 3.0 E_12.
>
> I don't understand the meaning of this distinction(I had waited for a
> port USB 3.0 3-4).
>
> Anymore help?
>
> Thanks

The manual writer did not do a good job.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-131-837-03.jpg

In the picture, there are four blue colored connectors on the back,
and they're all USB3. You can plug a USB3 or USB2 device into
those connectors.

There are two USB2 connectors, underneath the PS/2 connector on the left.

*******

The Z77 (a Southbridge) has four built-in USB3 ports. No
additional USB3 chip is needed. In the case of your
motherboard, all of the USB3 ports are on the back
of the computer, and all of them come from the Z77 chip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_chipsets

"Z77

DMI 2GB/sec up, 2GB/sec down, (processor to Z77 interface)
2x8 PCI Express (details unclear - interface is on processor)
No PCI bus working on Z77 (PCI slots would require an external chip)
2 SATA III, 4 SATA II ports for storage devices built-in
4 USB3, 10 USB2 built-in
FDI support (if processor has internal GPU, then Z77 can drive display connectors)
Power dissipation: 6.7 watts
"

HTH,
Paul

Jean-Noël Robin
December 30th 12, 12:40 AM
"Paul" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion :
...

Jean-Noël Robin wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On the rear panel of mobo Asus P8Z77 VLK, I have a port USB 3.0 E_12.
>
> I don't understand the meaning of this distinction(I had waited for a port
> USB 3.0 3-4).
>
> Anymore help?
>
> Thanks

The manual writer did not do a good job.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-131-837-03.jpg

In the picture, there are four blue colored connectors on the back,
and they're all USB3. You can plug a USB3 or USB2 device into
those connectors.

There are two USB2 connectors, underneath the PS/2 connector on the left.

*******

The Z77 (a Southbridge) has four built-in USB3 ports. No
additional USB3 chip is needed. In the case of your
motherboard, all of the USB3 ports are on the back
of the computer, and all of them come from the Z77 chip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_chipsets

"Z77

DMI 2GB/sec up, 2GB/sec down, (processor to Z77 interface)
2x8 PCI Express (details unclear - interface is on processor)
No PCI bus working on Z77 (PCI slots would require an external chip)
2 SATA III, 4 SATA II ports for storage devices built-in
4 USB3, 10 USB2 built-in
FDI support (if processor has internal GPU, then Z77 can drive display
connectors)
Power dissipation: 6.7 watts
"

HTH,
Paul

Good night,

I prefere.

Thanks Paul.

Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
December 30th 12, 01:40 AM
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:38:56 +0100, Jean-Noël Robin wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On the rear panel of mobo Asus P8Z77 VLK, I have a port USB 3.0 E_12.
>
> I don't understand the meaning of this distinction(I had waited for a port
> USB 3.0 3-4).
>
> Anymore help?
>
> Thanks

If it's like my Asus motherboard, the 12 means those are USB3 ports 1
and 2. Maybe the other external pair is 3 and 4. If you have internal
headers for USB3, they will also have numbers.

The E might mean external.

Free language lesson: in the above context, "expected" is a better
English translation for attendre - but note that I make worse mistakes
in French :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Jean-Noël Robin
December 30th 12, 02:12 AM
"Gene E. Bloch" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion :
...

On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:38:56 +0100, Jean-Noël Robin wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On the rear panel of mobo Asus P8Z77 VLK, I have a port USB 3.0 E_12.
>
> I don't understand the meaning of this distinction(I had waited for a port
> USB 3.0 3-4).
>
> Anymore help?
>
> Thanks





If it's like my Asus motherboard, the 12 means those are USB3 ports 1
and 2. Maybe the other external pair is 3 and 4. If you have internal
headers for USB3, they will also have numbers.

The E might mean external.

Free language lesson: in the above context, "expected" is a better
English translation for attendre - but note that I make worse mistakes
in French :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Sorry, I speak english with an horrible Cambrige's accent.

Thanks a lot Gene.

charlie[_2_]
December 30th 12, 06:53 AM
On 12/29/2012 9:12 PM, Jean-Noël Robin wrote:
> Sorry, I speak english with an horrible Cambrige's accent.
New or old Cambridge accent?
My cousin went to school in Cambridge MA, settled there, raised a
family, etc., and retired. His Kentucky accent is long gone, and he
sounds like a snooty Bostonian.

Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
December 30th 12, 11:08 PM
On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 03:12:31 +0100, Jean-Noël Robin wrote:

> Free language lesson: in the above context, "expected" is a better
> English translation for attendre - but note that I make worse mistakes
> in French :-)
>
> --
> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
>
> Sorry, I speak english with an horrible Cambrige's accent.
>
> Thanks a lot Gene.

(It's better not to put your reply after the signature delimiter "-- ".
Doing so makes it disappear. I copied and pasted to get it back.)

Anyway, please don't apologize - it's really OK to make an occasional
error. We all do, even in our mother tongue :-)

Did you attend Cambridge, or is that just the accent you were taught?

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Jean-Noël Robin
December 31st 12, 12:22 AM
"Gene E. Bloch" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion :
...

On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 03:12:31 +0100, Jean-Noël Robin wrote:

> Free language lesson: in the above context, "expected" is a better
> English translation for attendre - but note that I make worse mistakes
> in French :-)
>
> --
> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
>
> Sorry, I speak english with an horrible Cambrige's accent.
>
> Thanks a lot Gene.

(It's better not to put your reply after the signature delimiter "-- ".
Doing so makes it disappear. I copied and pasted to get it back.)

Anyway, please don't apologize - it's really OK to make an occasional
error. We all do, even in our mother tongue :-)

Did you attend Cambridge, or is that just the accent you were taught?

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Hello,

I understand english a little bit and I shall phone to my "fournisseur"
tomorrow.

Thanks Gene.

Orion[_4_]
January 3rd 13, 08:01 PM
Re: Mo/bp ASUS P8P67 Deluxe -

I have the above Asus mobo and my Belarc Advisor tells me
that this mobo has only a 100 megahertz Bus Clock.
It's rather slow , isn't it?

Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P8P67 DELUXE Rev 1.xx
Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 1503 03/11/2011

Could you check for me, what your mobo Bus clock is ?
Thanks IA

"Jean-Noël Robin" wrote in message
r...

> 8<<<<<<<<<<<<<< friendly snip
--
> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
>
> Hello,
>
> I understand english a little bit and I shall phone to my "fournisseur"
> tomorrow.
>
> Thanks Gene.

Paul
January 3rd 13, 10:13 PM
Orion wrote:
> Re: Mo/bp ASUS P8P67 Deluxe -
>
> I have the above Asus mobo and my Belarc Advisor tells me
> that this mobo has only a 100 megahertz Bus Clock.
> It's rather slow , isn't it?
>
> Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P8P67 DELUXE Rev 1.xx
> Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
> BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 1503 03/11/2011
>
> Could you check for me, what your mobo Bus clock is ?
> Thanks IA
>
> "Jean-Noël Robin" wrote in message
> r...
>
>> 8<<<<<<<<<<<<<< friendly snip

One way to check is:

http://ark.intel.com/products/65523/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz?q=Core%20i7-3770K

"Clock Speed 3.5 GHz
Bus/Core Ratio 35
"

3.5GHz/35 = 100MHz

And, it's no longer a bus clock. Only in a loose
sense. BCLK is used as a frequency reference, for the
generation (by multiplication) of higher speed clocks
inside the processor. There is unlikely to be any
bus inside the LGA1155 processor that actually runs at 100MHz.

At one time, it was true, that BCLK was indeed the clock
used on the external FSB bus. Back on S370 or on Slot 1
processors, the BCLK might be 100MHz, 8 bytes of data transferred
per clock, 800MB/sec transfer rate (using single channel
SDRAM at 100MHz too). On the S478, this changed, with the
FSB transferring 4 bits on a wire, per bus clock. After the
quad pumped bus was no longer being used, BCLK has lost its
meaning as a performance indicator. Now, the plumbing uses
much higher speed transfers (in the GHz), and the GHz-rate
clock is produced by frequency multiplication using BCLK
as a reference input. Since the memory bus is inside the
processor, there is no traditional FSB evident on the
outside of the processor. And, it's not nearly as slow
as a result.

Paul

J McCorkindale
January 4th 13, 05:46 PM
"Paul" wrote in message ...

Orion wrote:
> Re: Mo/bp ASUS P8P67 Deluxe -
>
> I have the above Asus mobo and my Belarc Advisor tells me
> that this mobo has only a 100 megahertz Bus Clock.
> It's rather slow , isn't it?
>
> Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P8P67 DELUXE Rev 1.xx
> Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
> BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 1503 03/11/2011
>
> Could you check for me, what your mobo Bus clock is ?
> Thanks IA
>
> "Jean-Noël Robin" wrote in message
> r...
>
>> 8<<<<<<<<<<<<<< friendly snip

> One way to check is:
>
> http://ark.intel.com/products/65523/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz?q=Core%20i7-3770K
> "Clock Speed 3.5 GHz
> Bus/Core Ratio 35 "

> 3.5GHz/35 = 100MHz

> And, it's no longer a bus clock. Only in a loose
sense. BCLK is used as a frequency reference, for the
generation (by multiplication) of higher speed clocks
inside the processor. There is unlikely to be any
bus inside the LGA1155 processor that actually runs at 100MHz.

> At one time, it was true, that BCLK was indeed the clock
used on the external FSB bus. Back on S370 or on Slot 1
processors, the BCLK might be 100MHz, 8 bytes of data transferred
per clock, 800MB/sec transfer rate (using single channel
SDRAM at 100MHz too). On the S478, this changed, with the
FSB transferring 4 bits on a wire, per bus clock. After the
quad pumped bus was no longer being used, BCLK has lost its
meaning as a performance indicator. Now, the plumbing uses
much higher speed transfers (in the GHz), and the GHz-rate
clock is produced by frequency multiplication using BCLK
as a reference input. Since the memory bus is inside the
processor, there is no traditional FSB evident on the
outside of the processor. And, it's not nearly as slow
as a result.

> Paul
___________

THANKS for the explanation, Paul. As you can guess
this area of electronics is not my strongest site.
Now, thanks to the link you included, I can see what
I wasn't aware of earlier.
________
CPU Type QuadCore Intel Core i7-2600K, 3500 MHz (35 x 100)
_______
Thanks - Orion

Rob
January 4th 13, 09:28 PM
On 4/01/2013 9:13 AM, Paul wrote:
> Orion wrote:
>> Re: Mo/bp ASUS P8P67 Deluxe -
>>
>> I have the above Asus mobo and my Belarc Advisor tells me
>> that this mobo has only a 100 megahertz Bus Clock.
>> It's rather slow , isn't it?
>>
>> Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P8P67 DELUXE Rev 1.xx
>> Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
>> BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 1503 03/11/2011
>>
>> Could you check for me, what your mobo Bus clock is ?
>> Thanks IA
>>
>> "Jean-Noël Robin" wrote in message
>> r...
>>
>>> 8<<<<<<<<<<<<<< friendly snip
>
> One way to check is:
>
> http://ark.intel.com/products/65523/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz?q=Core%20i7-3770K
>
>
> "Clock Speed 3.5 GHz
> Bus/Core Ratio 35
> "
>
> 3.5GHz/35 = 100MHz
>
> And, it's no longer a bus clock. Only in a loose
> sense. BCLK is used as a frequency reference, for the
> generation (by multiplication) of higher speed clocks
> inside the processor. There is unlikely to be any
> bus inside the LGA1155 processor that actually runs at 100MHz.
>
> At one time, it was true, that BCLK was indeed the clock
> used on the external FSB bus. Back on S370 or on Slot 1
> processors, the BCLK might be 100MHz, 8 bytes of data transferred
> per clock, 800MB/sec transfer rate (using single channel
> SDRAM at 100MHz too). On the S478, this changed, with the
> FSB transferring 4 bits on a wire, per bus clock. After the
> quad pumped bus was no longer being used, BCLK has lost its
> meaning as a performance indicator. Now, the plumbing uses
> much higher speed transfers (in the GHz), and the GHz-rate
> clock is produced by frequency multiplication using BCLK
> as a reference input. Since the memory bus is inside the
> processor, there is no traditional FSB evident on the
> outside of the processor. And, it's not nearly as slow
> as a result.
>
> Paul

thanks for the info

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