Synchronizing?

[Gordon]

I would like to learn how to synchronize my working files on three
desktop computers and one laptop computer. The desktop computers are
all on a household network with Cat 5 Ethernet connections to the
Netgear firewall/modem/router. The laptop has a Wi-Fi connection to
this same setup.

Is there an easy way to set all these computers up such that any new
documents or modified old documents on one computer will be
transferred/synchronized with the other computers?

One desktop computer has Windows 8 as its operating system. The second
desktop has Windows 7 as its operating system. The third desktop has
Windows XP as its operating system. The laptop has Windows Vista Home
Basic as its operating system.

My brain is a bit old and rusty and I haven't yet figured this all
out. Gordon

[BillW50]

On 1/9/2013 10:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
> I would like to learn how to synchronize my working files on three
> desktop computers and one laptop computer. The desktop computers are
> all on a household network with Cat 5 Ethernet connections to the
> Netgear firewall/modem/router. The laptop has a Wi-Fi connection to
> this same setup.
>
> Is there an easy way to set all these computers up such that any new
> documents or modified old documents on one computer will be
> transferred/synchronized with the other computers?
>
> One desktop computer has Windows 8 as its operating system. The second
> desktop has Windows 7 as its operating system. The third desktop has
> Windows XP as its operating system. The laptop has Windows Vista Home
> Basic as its operating system.
>
> My brain is a bit old and rusty and I haven't yet figured this all
> out. Gordon

Well I have two favorites. One is SkyDrive. Not that one in the Windows
8 Metro Apps, but Microsoft has a download version which automatically
syncs all of your Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8 machines. It isn't XP
compatible though (although you can access your SkyDrive through a
website), so maybe that one is out for you. Works well as long as you
don't change 100's of MB at a shot. Plus everything is also kept in the
cloud. So I wouldn't use this one to sync private data. But other things
are ok.

The other one is my longtime favorite. One of the best ones out there is
called SyncBack (the freeware one). Plus it is very fast.

SkyDrive apps
https://apps.live.com/skydrive

SyncBack Free - freeware version of the ultimate data backup software
http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 SP1

[Gordon]

On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:11:54 -0600, BillW50 > wrote:

>On 1/9/2013 10:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
>> I would like to learn how to synchronize my working files on three
>> desktop computers and one laptop computer. The desktop computers are
>> all on a household network with Cat 5 Ethernet connections to the
>> Netgear firewall/modem/router. The laptop has a Wi-Fi connection to
>> this same setup.
>>
>> Is there an easy way to set all these computers up such that any new
>> documents or modified old documents on one computer will be
>> transferred/synchronized with the other computers?
>>
>> One desktop computer has Windows 8 as its operating system. The second
>> desktop has Windows 7 as its operating system. The third desktop has
>> Windows XP as its operating system. The laptop has Windows Vista Home
>> Basic as its operating system.
>>
>> My brain is a bit old and rusty and I haven't yet figured this all
>> out. Gordon
>
>Well I have two favorites. One is SkyDrive. Not that one in the Windows
>8 Metro Apps, but Microsoft has a download version which automatically
>syncs all of your Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8 machines. It isn't XP
>compatible though (although you can access your SkyDrive through a
>website), so maybe that one is out for you. Works well as long as you
>don't change 100's of MB at a shot. Plus everything is also kept in the
>cloud. So I wouldn't use this one to sync private data. But other things
>are ok.
>
>The other one is my longtime favorite. One of the best ones out there is
>called SyncBack (the freeware one). Plus it is very fast.
>
>SkyDrive apps
>https://apps.live.com/skydrive
>
>SyncBack Free - freeware version of the ultimate data backup software
>http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html
>
Thanks, Bill. This is what has me stalled out, so to speak. I have a
lot of very private financial information on these computers and would
be very reticent to put this up in the cloud. I am hoping to keep
these computers fully synchronized, just in case one or maybe two of
them go kaput. I really want a fully reliable backup that would be
easy to use and get on with my financial stuff.

It may be the best way to go is to use external hard drives and make
copies of my working files regularly but not try to synchronize my
three desktop computers. The laptop isn't important in this work. I
use it primarily as a means for communicating when I'm away from home.

Gordon

[BillW50]

On 1/9/2013 5:05 PM, Gordon wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:11:54 -0600, > wrote:
>
>> On 1/9/2013 10:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
>>> I would like to learn how to synchronize my working files on three
>>> desktop computers and one laptop computer. The desktop computers are
>>> all on a household network with Cat 5 Ethernet connections to the
>>> Netgear firewall/modem/router. The laptop has a Wi-Fi connection to
>>> this same setup.
>>>
>>> Is there an easy way to set all these computers up such that any new
>>> documents or modified old documents on one computer will be
>>> transferred/synchronized with the other computers?
>>>
>>> One desktop computer has Windows 8 as its operating system. The second
>>> desktop has Windows 7 as its operating system. The third desktop has
>>> Windows XP as its operating system. The laptop has Windows Vista Home
>>> Basic as its operating system.
>>>
>>> My brain is a bit old and rusty and I haven't yet figured this all
>>> out. Gordon
>>
>> Well I have two favorites. One is SkyDrive. Not that one in the Windows
>> 8 Metro Apps, but Microsoft has a download version which automatically
>> syncs all of your Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8 machines. It isn't XP
>> compatible though (although you can access your SkyDrive through a
>> website), so maybe that one is out for you. Works well as long as you
>> don't change 100's of MB at a shot. Plus everything is also kept in the
>> cloud. So I wouldn't use this one to sync private data. But other things
>> are ok.
>>
>> The other one is my longtime favorite. One of the best ones out there is
>> called SyncBack (the freeware one). Plus it is very fast.
>>
>> SkyDrive apps
>> https://apps.live.com/skydrive
>>
>> SyncBack Free - freeware version of the ultimate data backup software
>> http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html
>>
> Thanks, Bill. This is what has me stalled out, so to speak. I have a
> lot of very private financial information on these computers and would
> be very reticent to put this up in the cloud. I am hoping to keep
> these computers fully synchronized, just in case one or maybe two of
> them go kaput. I really want a fully reliable backup that would be
> easy to use and get on with my financial stuff.
>
> It may be the best way to go is to use external hard drives and make
> copies of my working files regularly but not try to synchronize my
> three desktop computers. The laptop isn't important in this work. I
> use it primarily as a means for communicating when I'm away from home.
>
> Gordon

SyncBack isn't cloud based. I use it to sync my 20+ computers here. The
free version you will give errors if an application has file(s) opened
(so close them first or pay for one of the payware versions). I normally
use a portable HD to sync instead of the local network (it is much
faster). But SyncBack should work fine over the local network too. I
know I have done this sometimes with SyncBack. So in my case I have over
20 copies of the same data and they all stay synced.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 SP1

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 10:43:48 -0600, Gordon wrote:

> I would like to learn how to synchronize my working files on three
> desktop computers and one laptop computer. The desktop computers are
> all on a household network with Cat 5 Ethernet connections to the
> Netgear firewall/modem/router. The laptop has a Wi-Fi connection to
> this same setup.
>
> Is there an easy way to set all these computers up such that any new
> documents or modified old documents on one computer will be
> transferred/synchronized with the other computers?
>
> One desktop computer has Windows 8 as its operating system. The second
> desktop has Windows 7 as its operating system. The third desktop has
> Windows XP as its operating system. The laptop has Windows Vista Home
> Basic as its operating system.
>
> My brain is a bit old and rusty and I haven't yet figured this all
> out. Gordon

I use Allway Sync manually to synchronize my phone with my computer, but
it seems to have automatic synchronizing too.

The help file says it will sync when an external device is connected, or
automatically when a file is changed, depending on what you have and how
you configure the program.

http://allwaysync.com/


--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Peter Roe[_2_]]

On 10/01/2013 03:34, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 10:43:48 -0600, Gordon wrote:
>
>> I would like to learn how to synchronize my working files on three
>> desktop computers and one laptop computer. The desktop computers are
>> all on a household network with Cat 5 Ethernet connections to the
>> Netgear firewall/modem/router. The laptop has a Wi-Fi connection to
>> this same setup.
>>
>> Is there an easy way to set all these computers up such that any new
>> documents or modified old documents on one computer will be
>> transferred/synchronized with the other computers?
>>
>> One desktop computer has Windows 8 as its operating system. The second
>> desktop has Windows 7 as its operating system. The third desktop has
>> Windows XP as its operating system. The laptop has Windows Vista Home
>> Basic as its operating system.
>>
>> My brain is a bit old and rusty and I haven't yet figured this all
>> out. Gordon
>
> I use Allway Sync manually to synchronize my phone with my computer, but
> it seems to have automatic synchronizing too.
>
> The help file says it will sync when an external device is connected, or
> automatically when a file is changed, depending on what you have and how
> you configure the program.
>
> http://allwaysync.com/
>
>
Is your phone an android device? Been looking for something to sync
files between my Samsung tablet and the home, windows 7, pc...

[Peter Roe[_2_]]

On 10/01/2013 03:34, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 10:43:48 -0600, Gordon wrote:
>
>> I would like to learn how to synchronize my working files on three
>> desktop computers and one laptop computer. The desktop computers are
>> all on a household network with Cat 5 Ethernet connections to the
>> Netgear firewall/modem/router. The laptop has a Wi-Fi connection to
>> this same setup.
>>
>> Is there an easy way to set all these computers up such that any new
>> documents or modified old documents on one computer will be
>> transferred/synchronized with the other computers?
>>
>> One desktop computer has Windows 8 as its operating system. The second
>> desktop has Windows 7 as its operating system. The third desktop has
>> Windows XP as its operating system. The laptop has Windows Vista Home
>> Basic as its operating system.
>>
>> My brain is a bit old and rusty and I haven't yet figured this all
>> out. Gordon
>
> I use Allway Sync manually to synchronize my phone with my computer, but
> it seems to have automatic synchronizing too.
>
> The help file says it will sync when an external device is connected, or
> automatically when a file is changed, depending on what you have and how
> you configure the program.
>
> http://allwaysync.com/
>
>
Hi - is your phone an android device by any chance? Been looking for a
way to sync files between my samsung tablet and the home (win 7) pc...

[Andy Burns[_2_]]

Peter Roe wrote:

> Is your phone an android device? Been looking for something to sync
> files between my Samsung tablet and the home, windows 7, pc...

Foldersync on android can browse, copy and sync between folders on
android and FTP/WEBDAV/CIFS etc servers and various of the cloud storage
providers (box, dropbox, skydrive, S3, google drive, sugar sync, ubuntu
one, netdocs and on and on)

[Desk Rabbit[_2_]]

On 09/01/2013 23:05, Gordon wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:11:54 -0600, BillW50 > wrote:
>
>> On 1/9/2013 10:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
>>> I would like to learn how to synchronize my working files on three
>>> desktop computers and one laptop computer. The desktop computers are
>>> all on a household network with Cat 5 Ethernet connections to the
>>> Netgear firewall/modem/router. The laptop has a Wi-Fi connection to
>>> this same setup.
>>>
>>> Is there an easy way to set all these computers up such that any new
>>> documents or modified old documents on one computer will be
>>> transferred/synchronized with the other computers?
>>>
>>> One desktop computer has Windows 8 as its operating system. The second
>>> desktop has Windows 7 as its operating system. The third desktop has
>>> Windows XP as its operating system. The laptop has Windows Vista Home
>>> Basic as its operating system.
>>>
>>> My brain is a bit old and rusty and I haven't yet figured this all
>>> out. Gordon
>>
>> Well I have two favorites. One is SkyDrive. Not that one in the Windows
>> 8 Metro Apps, but Microsoft has a download version which automatically
>> syncs all of your Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8 machines. It isn't XP
>> compatible though (although you can access your SkyDrive through a
>> website), so maybe that one is out for you. Works well as long as you
>> don't change 100's of MB at a shot. Plus everything is also kept in the
>> cloud. So I wouldn't use this one to sync private data. But other things
>> are ok.
>>
>> The other one is my longtime favorite. One of the best ones out there is
>> called SyncBack (the freeware one). Plus it is very fast.
>>
>> SkyDrive apps
>> https://apps.live.com/skydrive
>>
>> SyncBack Free - freeware version of the ultimate data backup software
>> http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html
>>
> Thanks, Bill. This is what has me stalled out, so to speak. I have a
> lot of very private financial information on these computers and would
> be very reticent to put this up in the cloud. I am hoping to keep

I'll wager any cloud storage facility is far more secure than your home
network. I'll bet you log in with administrator privileges on your
machines eh?

As with any system, the weak link is the user and the weakest link is
the users password. Cloud security is the least of your worries.

[BillW50]

On 1/10/2013 3:59 AM, Desk Rabbit wrote:
> On 09/01/2013 23:05, Gordon wrote:
>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:11:54 -0600, BillW50 > wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/9/2013 10:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
>>>> I would like to learn how to synchronize my working files on three
>>>> desktop computers and one laptop computer. The desktop computers are
>>>> all on a household network with Cat 5 Ethernet connections to the
>>>> Netgear firewall/modem/router. The laptop has a Wi-Fi connection to
>>>> this same setup.
>>>>
>>>> Is there an easy way to set all these computers up such that any new
>>>> documents or modified old documents on one computer will be
>>>> transferred/synchronized with the other computers?
>>>>
>>>> One desktop computer has Windows 8 as its operating system. The second
>>>> desktop has Windows 7 as its operating system. The third desktop has
>>>> Windows XP as its operating system. The laptop has Windows Vista Home
>>>> Basic as its operating system.
>>>>
>>>> My brain is a bit old and rusty and I haven't yet figured this all
>>>> out. Gordon
>>>
>>> Well I have two favorites. One is SkyDrive. Not that one in the Windows
>>> 8 Metro Apps, but Microsoft has a download version which automatically
>>> syncs all of your Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8 machines. It isn't XP
>>> compatible though (although you can access your SkyDrive through a
>>> website), so maybe that one is out for you. Works well as long as you
>>> don't change 100's of MB at a shot. Plus everything is also kept in the
>>> cloud. So I wouldn't use this one to sync private data. But other things
>>> are ok.
>>>
>>> The other one is my longtime favorite. One of the best ones out there is
>>> called SyncBack (the freeware one). Plus it is very fast.
>>>
>>> SkyDrive apps
>>> https://apps.live.com/skydrive
>>>
>>> SyncBack Free - freeware version of the ultimate data backup software
>>> http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html
>>>
>> Thanks, Bill. This is what has me stalled out, so to speak. I have a
>> lot of very private financial information on these computers and would
>> be very reticent to put this up in the cloud. I am hoping to keep
>
> I'll wager any cloud storage facility is far more secure than your home
> network. I'll bet you log in with administrator privileges on your
> machines eh?
>
> As with any system, the weak link is the user and the weakest link is
> the users password. Cloud security is the least of your worries.

Keep dreaming! I've been using computers since the 70's and I have never
been hacked into yet. But 90% of companies that has been polled, has at
least once in the last 12 months.

http://www.technewsdaily.com/6942-90-of-companies-have-been-hit-by-hackers.html

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 SP1

[Alias[_43_]]

On 1/10/2013 1:46 PM, BillW50 wrote:
> Keep dreaming! I've been using computers since the 70's and I have never
> been hacked into yet.

Braggart. Liar. Idiot.

--
Alias

[Peter Roe[_2_]]

On 10/01/2013 09:43, Andy Burns wrote:
> Peter Roe wrote:
>
>> Is your phone an android device? Been looking for something to sync
>> files between my Samsung tablet and the home, windows 7, pc...
>
> Foldersync on android can browse, copy and sync between folders on
> android and FTP/WEBDAV/CIFS etc servers and various of the cloud storage
> providers (box, dropbox, skydrive, S3, google drive, sugar sync, ubuntu
> one, netdocs and on and on)
>
Thanks - will take a look. Apologies for double posting - no idea how
that happened.

[dweebken[_2_]]

On 10-Jan-13 2:34 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 10:43:48 -0600, Gordon wrote:
> I use Allway Sync manually to synchronize my phone with my computer,
>
> http://allwaysync.com/
>
>
I do this too. On the PC side I use Win 7 or Win 8 (I have multiple
PCs). On the phone side (SGSIII with Jellybean now/previously ICS) I use
SwiFTP to set the phone up as an FTP server. Then I just plug in the USB
cable between them and tell allwaysync to sync between the phone's FTP
server and the relevant PC folder/tree I want. Note that SwiFTP defaults
to the SDcard folder in the phone, however under Advanced settings you
can change it to wherever you want.
YMMV

[BillW50]

On 1/10/2013 7:03 AM, Alias wrote:
> On 1/10/2013 1:46 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>> Keep dreaming! I've been using computers since the 70's and I have never
>> been hacked into yet.
>
> Braggart. Liar. Idiot.

Time to tell us about how to contact your medical doctor so we can tell
them what you are up to. As I covered this with you before and your
memory seems to be about 60 seconds. If you have no medical doctor, we
need to find you one. If you refuse, we need to hand you over to the
legal system and they can do with you what they wish. After all,
terrorizing others day after day is very serious offense.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:32:19 +0000, Peter Roe wrote:

> On 10/01/2013 03:34, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 10:43:48 -0600, Gordon wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to learn how to synchronize my working files on three
>>> desktop computers and one laptop computer. The desktop computers are
>>> all on a household network with Cat 5 Ethernet connections to the
>>> Netgear firewall/modem/router. The laptop has a Wi-Fi connection to
>>> this same setup.
>>>
>>> Is there an easy way to set all these computers up such that any new
>>> documents or modified old documents on one computer will be
>>> transferred/synchronized with the other computers?
>>>
>>> One desktop computer has Windows 8 as its operating system. The second
>>> desktop has Windows 7 as its operating system. The third desktop has
>>> Windows XP as its operating system. The laptop has Windows Vista Home
>>> Basic as its operating system.
>>>
>>> My brain is a bit old and rusty and I haven't yet figured this all
>>> out. Gordon
>>
>> I use Allway Sync manually to synchronize my phone with my computer, but
>> it seems to have automatic synchronizing too.
>>
>> The help file says it will sync when an external device is connected, or
>> automatically when a file is changed, depending on what you have and how
>> you configure the program.
>>
>> http://allwaysync.com/
>>
>>
> Is your phone an android device? Been looking for something to sync
> files between my Samsung tablet and the home, windows 7, pc...

It is an Android phone.

Andy Burns's post looks interesting, but I also synchronize my camera SD
card and one or two other things, so a solution running on the phone is
not so practical for me.

But please note: I haven't yet looked closely at his idea, so I might be
misinterpreting :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:46:33 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:32:19 +0000, Peter Roe wrote:
>
>> On 10/01/2013 03:34, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 10:43:48 -0600, Gordon wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like to learn how to synchronize my working files on three
>>>> desktop computers and one laptop computer. The desktop computers are
>>>> all on a household network with Cat 5 Ethernet connections to the
>>>> Netgear firewall/modem/router. The laptop has a Wi-Fi connection to
>>>> this same setup.
>>>>
>>>> Is there an easy way to set all these computers up such that any new
>>>> documents or modified old documents on one computer will be
>>>> transferred/synchronized with the other computers?
>>>>
>>>> One desktop computer has Windows 8 as its operating system. The second
>>>> desktop has Windows 7 as its operating system. The third desktop has
>>>> Windows XP as its operating system. The laptop has Windows Vista Home
>>>> Basic as its operating system.
>>>>
>>>> My brain is a bit old and rusty and I haven't yet figured this all
>>>> out. Gordon
>>>
>>> I use Allway Sync manually to synchronize my phone with my computer, but
>>> it seems to have automatic synchronizing too.
>>>
>>> The help file says it will sync when an external device is connected, or
>>> automatically when a file is changed, depending on what you have and how
>>> you configure the program.
>>>
>>> http://allwaysync.com/
>>>
>>>
>> Is your phone an android device? Been looking for something to sync
>> files between my Samsung tablet and the home, windows 7, pc...
>
> It is an Android phone.
>
> Andy Burns's post looks interesting, but I also synchronize my camera SD
> card and one or two other things, so a solution running on the phone is
> not so practical for me.
>
> But please note: I haven't yet looked closely at his idea, so I might be
> misinterpreting :-)

OK, I took a look at the description of FolderSync.

Since I have no intention of using the cloud, FolderSync is not an
option for me in any case.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:33:38 +0000, Peter Roe wrote:

> On 10/01/2013 03:34, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 10:43:48 -0600, Gordon wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to learn how to synchronize my working files on three
>>> desktop computers and one laptop computer. The desktop computers are
>>> all on a household network with Cat 5 Ethernet connections to the
>>> Netgear firewall/modem/router. The laptop has a Wi-Fi connection to
>>> this same setup.
>>>
>>> Is there an easy way to set all these computers up such that any new
>>> documents or modified old documents on one computer will be
>>> transferred/synchronized with the other computers?
>>>
>>> One desktop computer has Windows 8 as its operating system. The second
>>> desktop has Windows 7 as its operating system. The third desktop has
>>> Windows XP as its operating system. The laptop has Windows Vista Home
>>> Basic as its operating system.
>>>
>>> My brain is a bit old and rusty and I haven't yet figured this all
>>> out. Gordon
>>
>> I use Allway Sync manually to synchronize my phone with my computer, but
>> it seems to have automatic synchronizing too.
>>
>> The help file says it will sync when an external device is connected, or
>> automatically when a file is changed, depending on what you have and how
>> you configure the program.
>>
>> http://allwaysync.com/
>>
>>
> Hi - is your phone an android device by any chance? Been looking for a
> way to sync files between my samsung tablet and the home (win 7) pc...

It is an Android device, but that hardly matters, since Allway Sync
works with any drive. As long as the phone (camera, thumb drive, memory
card, internal hard drive, external hard drive) can be mounted as a
mass-storage device, it's good to go.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:30:26 +1100, dweebken wrote:

> On 10-Jan-13 2:34 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 10:43:48 -0600, Gordon wrote:
>> I use Allway Sync manually to synchronize my phone with my computer,
>>
>> http://allwaysync.com/
>>
>>
> I do this too. On the PC side I use Win 7 or Win 8 (I have multiple
> PCs). On the phone side (SGSIII with Jellybean now/previously ICS) I use
> SwiFTP to set the phone up as an FTP server. Then I just plug in the USB
> cable between them and tell allwaysync to sync between the phone's FTP
> server and the relevant PC folder/tree I want. Note that SwiFTP defaults
> to the SDcard folder in the phone, however under Advanced settings you
> can change it to wherever you want.
> YMMV

See my responses to Peter Roe,
Message-ID: >
Message-ID: >

Most of the devices I sync with are not going to be able to work as FTP
servers...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[dweebken[_2_]]

On 11-Jan-13 3:55 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:30:26 +1100, dweebken wrote:
>
>> On 10-Jan-13 2:34 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 10:43:48 -0600, Gordon wrote:
>>> I use Allway Sync manually to synchronize my phone with my computer,
>>>
>>> http://allwaysync.com/
>>>
>>>
>> I do this too. On the PC side I use Win 7 or Win 8 (I have multiple
>> PCs). On the phone side (SGSIII with Jellybean now/previously ICS) I use
>> SwiFTP to set the phone up as an FTP server. Then I just plug in the USB
>> cable between them and tell allwaysync to sync between the phone's FTP
>> server and the relevant PC folder/tree I want. Note that SwiFTP defaults
>> to the SDcard folder in the phone, however under Advanced settings you
>> can change it to wherever you want.
>> YMMV
>
> See my responses to Peter Roe,
> Message-ID: >
> Message-ID: >
>
> Most of the devices I sync with are not going to be able to work as FTP
> servers...
>
I use allwaysync to sync my computer data (which it runs on) with my
android phone as described earlier, with my camera, my USB3 mass storage
drive, my NAS drive, an MP3 player, and my android tablet, as well as a
second PC. Only the android phone is using FTP. The Android tablet shows
up with a disk letter so just works like a disk drive to allwaysync. I
don't bother syncing to dropbox (which it can also do) because all I
have to do is sync to the local dropbox folder and dropbox takes care of
the rest of the cloud devices. But it you don't want dropbox... that is
your choice/need. Anyway, if you do have "other" devices that can't use
it... sorry about that. You may need to keep looking!

[Alias[_43_]]

On 1/11/2013 12:29 AM, BillW50 wrote:
> On 1/10/2013 7:03 AM, Alias wrote:
>> On 1/10/2013 1:46 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>>> Keep dreaming! I've been using computers since the 70's and I have never
>>> been hacked into yet.
>>
>> Braggart. Liar. Idiot.
>
> Time to tell us about how to contact your medical doctor so we can tell
> them what you are up to. As I covered this with you before and your
> memory seems to be about 60 seconds. If you have no medical doctor, we
> need to find you one. If you refuse, we need to hand you over to the
> legal system and they can do with you what they wish. After all,
> terrorizing others day after day is very serious offense.
>

I showed your posts to a psychiatrist who said you need are a braggart,
liar and a total idiot.

--
Alias

[Desk Rabbit[_2_]]

On 10/01/2013 12:46, BillW50 wrote:
> On 1/10/2013 3:59 AM, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>> On 09/01/2013 23:05, Gordon wrote:
>>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:11:54 -0600, BillW50 > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/9/2013 10:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
>>>>> I would like to learn how to synchronize my working files on three
>>>>> desktop computers and one laptop computer. The desktop computers are
>>>>> all on a household network with Cat 5 Ethernet connections to the
>>>>> Netgear firewall/modem/router. The laptop has a Wi-Fi connection to
>>>>> this same setup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there an easy way to set all these computers up such that any new
>>>>> documents or modified old documents on one computer will be
>>>>> transferred/synchronized with the other computers?
>>>>>
>>>>> One desktop computer has Windows 8 as its operating system. The second
>>>>> desktop has Windows 7 as its operating system. The third desktop has
>>>>> Windows XP as its operating system. The laptop has Windows Vista Home
>>>>> Basic as its operating system.
>>>>>
>>>>> My brain is a bit old and rusty and I haven't yet figured this all
>>>>> out. Gordon
>>>>
>>>> Well I have two favorites. One is SkyDrive. Not that one in the Windows
>>>> 8 Metro Apps, but Microsoft has a download version which automatically
>>>> syncs all of your Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8 machines. It isn't XP
>>>> compatible though (although you can access your SkyDrive through a
>>>> website), so maybe that one is out for you. Works well as long as you
>>>> don't change 100's of MB at a shot. Plus everything is also kept in the
>>>> cloud. So I wouldn't use this one to sync private data. But other
>>>> things
>>>> are ok.
>>>>
>>>> The other one is my longtime favorite. One of the best ones out
>>>> there is
>>>> called SyncBack (the freeware one). Plus it is very fast.
>>>>
>>>> SkyDrive apps
>>>> https://apps.live.com/skydrive
>>>>
>>>> SyncBack Free - freeware version of the ultimate data backup software
>>>> http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html
>>>>
>>> Thanks, Bill. This is what has me stalled out, so to speak. I have a
>>> lot of very private financial information on these computers and would
>>> be very reticent to put this up in the cloud. I am hoping to keep
>>
>> I'll wager any cloud storage facility is far more secure than your home
>> network. I'll bet you log in with administrator privileges on your
>> machines eh?
>>
>> As with any system, the weak link is the user and the weakest link is
>> the users password. Cloud security is the least of your worries.
>
> Keep dreaming! I've been using computers since the 70's and I have never
> been hacked into yet. But 90% of companies that has been polled, has at
> least once in the last 12 months.
>
> http://www.technewsdaily.com/6942-90-of-companies-have-been-hit-by-hackers.html
>
>

I don't know why you are getting on your high horse, my response wasn't
even directed at or in reply to you!

I to have been working in IT for many years, I've grown smart enough and
quickly enough not to be as complacent and self assured as you appear to be.

[BillW50]

In ,
Desk Rabbit typed:
> On 10/01/2013 12:46, BillW50 wrote:
>> On 1/10/2013 3:59 AM, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>> On 09/01/2013 23:05, Gordon wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:11:54 -0600, BillW50 >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 1/9/2013 10:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
>>>>>> I would like to learn how to synchronize my working files on
>>>>>> three desktop computers and one laptop computer. The desktop
>>>>>> computers are all on a household network with Cat 5 Ethernet
>>>>>> connections to the Netgear firewall/modem/router. The laptop has
>>>>>> a Wi-Fi connection to this same setup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there an easy way to set all these computers up such that any
>>>>>> new documents or modified old documents on one computer will be
>>>>>> transferred/synchronized with the other computers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One desktop computer has Windows 8 as its operating system. The
>>>>>> second desktop has Windows 7 as its operating system. The third
>>>>>> desktop has Windows XP as its operating system. The laptop has
>>>>>> Windows Vista Home Basic as its operating system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My brain is a bit old and rusty and I haven't yet figured this
>>>>>> all out. Gordon
>>>>>
>>>>> Well I have two favorites. One is SkyDrive. Not that one in the
>>>>> Windows 8 Metro Apps, but Microsoft has a download version which
>>>>> automatically syncs all of your Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8
>>>>> machines. It isn't XP compatible though (although you can access
>>>>> your SkyDrive through a website), so maybe that one is out for
>>>>> you. Works well as long as you don't change 100's of MB at a
>>>>> shot. Plus everything is also kept in the cloud. So I wouldn't
>>>>> use this one to sync private data. But other things
>>>>> are ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> The other one is my longtime favorite. One of the best ones out
>>>>> there is
>>>>> called SyncBack (the freeware one). Plus it is very fast.
>>>>>
>>>>> SkyDrive apps
>>>>> https://apps.live.com/skydrive
>>>>>
>>>>> SyncBack Free - freeware version of the ultimate data backup
>>>>> software http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Bill. This is what has me stalled out, so to speak. I have
>>>> a lot of very private financial information on these computers and
>>>> would be very reticent to put this up in the cloud. I am hoping to
>>>> keep
>>>
>>> I'll wager any cloud storage facility is far more secure than your
>>> home network. I'll bet you log in with administrator privileges on
>>> your machines eh?
>>>
>>> As with any system, the weak link is the user and the weakest link
>>> is the users password. Cloud security is the least of your worries.
>>
>> Keep dreaming! I've been using computers since the 70's and I have
>> never been hacked into yet. But 90% of companies that has been
>> polled, has at least once in the last 12 months.
>>
>> http://www.technewsdaily.com/6942-90-of-companies-have-been-hit-by-hackers.html
>>
>>
>
> I don't know why you are getting on your high horse, my response
> wasn't even directed at or in reply to you!

I know it wasn't, but you did make this wager. And I'll take that bet.
;-)

> I to have been working in IT for many years, I've grown smart enough
> and quickly enough not to be as complacent and self assured as you
> appear to be.

I'm complacent? How did you figure that one out? You're the one that
trusts private data is safer in the cloud with people you don't even
know. That sounds very complacent to me and a good way to get burned.
And I didn't keep my systems safe for all of these decades by being
complacent.

And speaking about IT people, very few of them really impress me. Heck
this very tablet I am typing on right now, I just bought on eBay. He
left a business card with the computer and he works in the IT
department. And I was amazed when I fired the machine up for the first
time. As all of his user names, passwords, account links, and everything
was still on the computer. You would think he would know better. So I
quickly formatted and reinstalled the OS to take care of that problem.

--
Bill
Motion Computing LE1600TS Tablet ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino 758 1.5GHz - 1.5GB - Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005 SP3

[BillW50]

In ,
Alias typed:
> On 1/11/2013 12:29 AM, BillW50 wrote:
>> On 1/10/2013 7:03 AM, Alias wrote:
>>> On 1/10/2013 1:46 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>>>> Keep dreaming! I've been using computers since the 70's and I have
>>>> never been hacked into yet.
>>>
>>> Braggart. Liar. Idiot.
>>
>> Time to tell us about how to contact your medical doctor so we can
>> tell them what you are up to. As I covered this with you before and
>> your memory seems to be about 60 seconds. If you have no medical
>> doctor, we need to find you one. If you refuse, we need to hand you
>> over to the legal system and they can do with you what they wish.
>> After all, terrorizing others day after day is very serious offense.
>
> I showed your posts to a psychiatrist who said you need are a
> braggart, liar and a total idiot.

So what is the name and phone number of this mysterious psychiatrist
who diagnoses by means of the Internet?

--
Bill
Motion Computing LE1600TS Tablet ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino 758 1.5GHz - 1.5GB - Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005 SP3

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:44:45 +1100, dweebken wrote:

> On 11-Jan-13 3:55 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:30:26 +1100, dweebken wrote:
>>
>>> On 10-Jan-13 2:34 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 10:43:48 -0600, Gordon wrote:
>>>> I use Allway Sync manually to synchronize my phone with my computer,
>>>>
>>>> http://allwaysync.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I do this too. On the PC side I use Win 7 or Win 8 (I have multiple
>>> PCs). On the phone side (SGSIII with Jellybean now/previously ICS) I use
>>> SwiFTP to set the phone up as an FTP server. Then I just plug in the USB
>>> cable between them and tell allwaysync to sync between the phone's FTP
>>> server and the relevant PC folder/tree I want. Note that SwiFTP defaults
>>> to the SDcard folder in the phone, however under Advanced settings you
>>> can change it to wherever you want.
>>> YMMV
>>
>> See my responses to Peter Roe,
>> Message-ID: >
>> Message-ID: >
>>
>> Most of the devices I sync with are not going to be able to work as FTP
>> servers...
>>
> I use allwaysync to sync my computer data (which it runs on) with my
> android phone as described earlier, with my camera, my USB3 mass storage
> drive, my NAS drive, an MP3 player, and my android tablet, as well as a
> second PC. Only the android phone is using FTP. The Android tablet shows
> up with a disk letter so just works like a disk drive to allwaysync. I
> don't bother syncing to dropbox (which it can also do) because all I
> have to do is sync to the local dropbox folder and dropbox takes care of
> the rest of the cloud devices. But it you don't want dropbox... that is
> your choice/need. Anyway, if you do have "other" devices that can't use
> it... sorry about that. You may need to keep looking!

I meant other devices that can't use FTP, not that can't use the Cloud.
That's what I meant by saying "Most of the devices I sync with are not
going to be able to work as FTP servers". I didn't know that Allway Sync
would see the FTP server as a drive letter; in my uses of FTP, I've
never noticed that. Perhaps because I use the wrong software :-)

BTW, I *do* use a graphical FTP program, enough so that I've completely
forgotten all the FTP commands. That's the price of progress, I guess...

As for not using the Cloud, I agree, it's merely a choice I made. You
made a different choice. That's fine - I know that a lot of people like
the Cloud, and that's OK with me. If later I see a reason or a need to
do so, I will use the Cloud.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Alias[_43_]]

On 1/11/2013 6:09 PM, BillW50 wrote:

>>>>> Keep dreaming! I've been using computers since the 70's


Braggart.

> and I have
>>>>> never been hacked into yet.

Liar and idiot.


>>>>
>>>> Braggart. Liar. Idiot.
>>>
>>> Time to tell us about how to contact your medical doctor so we can
>>> tell them what you are up to. As I covered this with you before and
>>> your memory seems to be about 60 seconds. If you have no medical
>>> doctor, we need to find you one. If you refuse, we need to hand you
>>> over to the legal system and they can do with you what they wish.
>>> After all, terrorizing others day after day is very serious offense.
>>
>> I showed your posts to a psychiatrist who said you need are a
>> braggart, liar and a total idiot.
>
> So what is the name and phone number of this mysterious psychiatrist
> who diagnoses by means of the Internet?
>

The fact that you're a braggart, liar and total idiot is obvious to
everyone but you.

--
Alias

[Stewart[_5_]]

Bill, I have just spent a while pairing up the documents and photo folders
between my desktop and laptop; I had deleted quite a lot of files and a few
folders from the documents so the changes were not for additional material
but for deductions.
Obviously synchronizing would make this easier than the way I am doing it.
Can you tell me if any of the synchronizing programs would delete the
corresponding files and folders in the second computer?
Thank you


"BillW50" wrote in message ...

On 1/9/2013 10:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
<snip>
<snip>


The other one is my longtime favorite. One of the best ones out there is
called SyncBack (the freeware one). Plus it is very fast.

SkyDrive apps
https://apps.live.com/skydrive

SyncBack Free - freeware version of the ultimate data backup software
http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 SP1

[BillW50]

In ,
Stewart typed:
> Bill, I have just spent a while pairing up the documents and photo
> folders between my desktop and laptop; I had deleted quite a lot of
> files and a few folders from the documents so the changes were not
> for additional material but for deductions.
> Obviously synchronizing would make this easier than the way I am
> doing it. Can you tell me if any of the synchronizing programs would
> delete the corresponding files and folders in the second computer?
> Thank you

Either one below we do this. SkyDrive will do this in the cloud (first
7GB is free) and what you delete or add on one, is like changing all of
them. While SyncBack isn't cloud based (I don't know about the latest
version), you have to give it rules how it should handle things. Like if
a file is on the source, but not on the other, what should it do? And it
has lots of other options too.

> "BillW50" wrote in message ...
>
> On 1/9/2013 10:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
> <snip>
> <snip>
>
>
> The other one is my longtime favorite. One of the best ones out there
> is called SyncBack (the freeware one). Plus it is very fast.
>
> SkyDrive apps
> https://apps.live.com/skydrive
>
> SyncBack Free - freeware version of the ultimate data backup software
> http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html
>
> --
> Bill
> Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12
> Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 SP1

--
Bill
Motion Computing LE1600 Tablet ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino 758 1.5GHz - 1.5GB - Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005 SP2

[Stewart[_5_]]

Thanks Bill, I shall try it the next time.



"BillW50" wrote in message ...

In ,
Stewart typed:
> Bill, I have just spent a while pairing up the documents and photo
> folders between my desktop and laptop; I had deleted quite a lot of
> files and a few folders from the documents so the changes were not
> for additional material but for deductions.
> Obviously synchronizing would make this easier than the way I am
> doing it. Can you tell me if any of the synchronizing programs would
> delete the corresponding files and folders in the second computer?
> Thank you

Either one below we do this. SkyDrive will do this in the cloud (first
7GB is free) and what you delete or add on one, is like changing all of
them. While SyncBack isn't cloud based (I don't know about the latest
version), you have to give it rules how it should handle things. Like if
a file is on the source, but not on the other, what should it do? And it
has lots of other options too.

> "BillW50" wrote in message ...
>
> On 1/9/2013 10:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
> <snip>
> <snip>
>
>
> The other one is my longtime favorite. One of the best ones out there
> is called SyncBack (the freeware one). Plus it is very fast.
>
> SkyDrive apps
> https://apps.live.com/skydrive
>
> SyncBack Free - freeware version of the ultimate data backup software
> http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html
>
> --
> Bill
> Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12
> Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 SP1

--
Bill
Motion Computing LE1600 Tablet ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino 758 1.5GHz - 1.5GB - Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005 SP2

[Desk Rabbit[_2_]]

On 11/01/2013 17:04, BillW50 wrote:
> In ,
> Desk Rabbit typed:
>> On 10/01/2013 12:46, BillW50 wrote:
>>> On 1/10/2013 3:59 AM, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>> On 09/01/2013 23:05, Gordon wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:11:54 -0600, BillW50 >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/9/2013 10:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>> I would like to learn how to synchronize my working files on
>>>>>>> three desktop computers and one laptop computer. The desktop
>>>>>>> computers are all on a household network with Cat 5 Ethernet
>>>>>>> connections to the Netgear firewall/modem/router. The laptop has
>>>>>>> a Wi-Fi connection to this same setup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there an easy way to set all these computers up such that any
>>>>>>> new documents or modified old documents on one computer will be
>>>>>>> transferred/synchronized with the other computers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One desktop computer has Windows 8 as its operating system. The
>>>>>>> second desktop has Windows 7 as its operating system. The third
>>>>>>> desktop has Windows XP as its operating system. The laptop has
>>>>>>> Windows Vista Home Basic as its operating system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My brain is a bit old and rusty and I haven't yet figured this
>>>>>>> all out. Gordon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well I have two favorites. One is SkyDrive. Not that one in the
>>>>>> Windows 8 Metro Apps, but Microsoft has a download version which
>>>>>> automatically syncs all of your Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8
>>>>>> machines. It isn't XP compatible though (although you can access
>>>>>> your SkyDrive through a website), so maybe that one is out for
>>>>>> you. Works well as long as you don't change 100's of MB at a
>>>>>> shot. Plus everything is also kept in the cloud. So I wouldn't
>>>>>> use this one to sync private data. But other things
>>>>>> are ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The other one is my longtime favorite. One of the best ones out
>>>>>> there is
>>>>>> called SyncBack (the freeware one). Plus it is very fast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SkyDrive apps
>>>>>> https://apps.live.com/skydrive
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SyncBack Free - freeware version of the ultimate data backup
>>>>>> software http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Bill. This is what has me stalled out, so to speak. I have
>>>>> a lot of very private financial information on these computers and
>>>>> would be very reticent to put this up in the cloud. I am hoping to
>>>>> keep
>>>>
>>>> I'll wager any cloud storage facility is far more secure than your
>>>> home network. I'll bet you log in with administrator privileges on
>>>> your machines eh?
>>>>
>>>> As with any system, the weak link is the user and the weakest link
>>>> is the users password. Cloud security is the least of your worries.
>>>
>>> Keep dreaming! I've been using computers since the 70's and I have
>>> never been hacked into yet. But 90% of companies that has been
>>> polled, has at least once in the last 12 months.
>>>
>>> http://www.technewsdaily.com/6942-90-of-companies-have-been-hit-by-hackers.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I don't know why you are getting on your high horse, my response
>> wasn't even directed at or in reply to you!
>
> I know it wasn't, but you did make this wager. And I'll take that bet.
> ;-)
>
>> I to have been working in IT for many years, I've grown smart enough
>> and quickly enough not to be as complacent and self assured as you
>> appear to be.
>
> I'm complacent? How did you figure that one out? You're the one that
> trusts private data is safer in the cloud with people you don't even
> know. That sounds very complacent to me and a good way to get burned.

That's pure assumption on your part and a rather stone age IT attitude.

> And I didn't keep my systems safe for all of these decades by being
> complacent.

>
> And speaking about IT people, very few of them really impress me. Heck
> this very tablet I am typing on right now, I just bought on eBay. He
> left a business card with the computer and he works in the IT
> department. And I was amazed when I fired the machine up for the first
> time. As all of his user names, passwords, account links, and everything
> was still on the computer. You would think he would know better. So I
> quickly formatted and reinstalled the OS to take care of that problem.

There are of course some complete clowns working with IT and passing
themselves off as IT experts. Thank you for your examples.

[Desk Rabbit[_2_]]

On 11/01/2013 17:04, BillW50 wrote:
> In ,
> Desk Rabbit typed:
>> On 10/01/2013 12:46, BillW50 wrote:
>>> On 1/10/2013 3:59 AM, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>> On 09/01/2013 23:05, Gordon wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:11:54 -0600, BillW50 >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/9/2013 10:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>> I would like to learn how to synchronize my working files on
>>>>>>> three desktop computers and one laptop computer. The desktop
>>>>>>> computers are all on a household network with Cat 5 Ethernet
>>>>>>> connections to the Netgear firewall/modem/router. The laptop has
>>>>>>> a Wi-Fi connection to this same setup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there an easy way to set all these computers up such that any
>>>>>>> new documents or modified old documents on one computer will be
>>>>>>> transferred/synchronized with the other computers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One desktop computer has Windows 8 as its operating system. The
>>>>>>> second desktop has Windows 7 as its operating system. The third
>>>>>>> desktop has Windows XP as its operating system. The laptop has
>>>>>>> Windows Vista Home Basic as its operating system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My brain is a bit old and rusty and I haven't yet figured this
>>>>>>> all out. Gordon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well I have two favorites. One is SkyDrive. Not that one in the
>>>>>> Windows 8 Metro Apps, but Microsoft has a download version which
>>>>>> automatically syncs all of your Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8
>>>>>> machines. It isn't XP compatible though (although you can access
>>>>>> your SkyDrive through a website), so maybe that one is out for
>>>>>> you. Works well as long as you don't change 100's of MB at a
>>>>>> shot. Plus everything is also kept in the cloud. So I wouldn't
>>>>>> use this one to sync private data. But other things
>>>>>> are ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The other one is my longtime favorite. One of the best ones out
>>>>>> there is
>>>>>> called SyncBack (the freeware one). Plus it is very fast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SkyDrive apps
>>>>>> https://apps.live.com/skydrive
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SyncBack Free - freeware version of the ultimate data backup
>>>>>> software http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Bill. This is what has me stalled out, so to speak. I have
>>>>> a lot of very private financial information on these computers and
>>>>> would be very reticent to put this up in the cloud. I am hoping to
>>>>> keep
>>>>
>>>> I'll wager any cloud storage facility is far more secure than your
>>>> home network. I'll bet you log in with administrator privileges on
>>>> your machines eh?
>>>>
>>>> As with any system, the weak link is the user and the weakest link
>>>> is the users password. Cloud security is the least of your worries.
>>>
>>> Keep dreaming! I've been using computers since the 70's and I have
>>> never been hacked into yet. But 90% of companies that has been
>>> polled, has at least once in the last 12 months.
>>>
>>> http://www.technewsdaily.com/6942-90-of-companies-have-been-hit-by-hackers.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I don't know why you are getting on your high horse, my response
>> wasn't even directed at or in reply to you!
>
> I know it wasn't, but you did make this wager. And I'll take that bet.
> ;-)
>
>> I to have been working in IT for many years, I've grown smart enough
>> and quickly enough not to be as complacent and self assured as you
>> appear to be.
>
> I'm complacent? How did you figure that one out? You're the one that
> trusts private data is safer in the cloud with people you don't even
> know. That sounds very complacent to me and a good way to get burned.

That's pure assumption on your part and a rather stone age IT attitude.

> And I didn't keep my systems safe for all of these decades by being
> complacent.

>
> And speaking about IT people, very few of them really impress me. Heck
> this very tablet I am typing on right now, I just bought on eBay. He
> left a business card with the computer and he works in the IT
> department. And I was amazed when I fired the machine up for the first
> time. As all of his user names, passwords, account links, and everything
> was still on the computer. You would think he would know better. So I
> quickly formatted and reinstalled the OS to take care of that problem.

There are of course some complete clowns working with IT and passing
themselves off as IT experts. Thank you for your examples.