All Apps icon from the desktop?

[Todd[_5_]]

Hi All,

Is there a way to get at the All Apps icon from the
Desktop without having to go to the Metro screen?
A short cut key?

Many thanks,
-T

[BillW50]

In ,
Todd typed:
> Hi All,
>
> Is there a way to get at the All Apps icon from the
> Desktop without having to go to the Metro screen?
> A short cut key?
>
> Many thanks,
> -T

I use Win+Q to get there. Although you do have the charms pop up. But a
quick ESC or a click somewhere else on the screen drops it.

--
Bill
Motion Computing LE1600 Tablet ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino 758 1.5GHz - 1.5GB - Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005 SP2

[Todd[_5_]]

On 01/11/2013 07:14 PM, BillW50 wrote:
> In ,
> Todd typed:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Is there a way to get at the All Apps icon from the
>> Desktop without having to go to the Metro screen?
>> A short cut key?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> -T
>
> I use Win+Q to get there. Although you do have the charms pop up. But a
> quick ESC or a click somewhere else on the screen drops it.
>


Cool. Thank you.

If I am not quick enough with the <Q>, the <Windows> key will
revert me to the Metro screen. Then I just right click on a
blank area.

What a kludge!

-T

[BillW50]

In ,
Todd typed:
> On 01/11/2013 07:14 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>> In ,
>> Todd typed:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Is there a way to get at the All Apps icon from the
>>> Desktop without having to go to the Metro screen?
>>> A short cut key?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> -T
>>
>> I use Win+Q to get there. Although you do have the charms pop up.
>> But a quick ESC or a click somewhere else on the screen drops it.
>>
>
>
> Cool. Thank you.
>
> If I am not quick enough with the <Q>, the <Windows> key will
> revert me to the Metro screen. Then I just right click on a
> blank area.
>
> What a kludge!
>
> -T

I never timed the keypresses, but if you hold down the Win key (like a
shift key) and tap the Q key it should pop up. Now you can let up on the
Win key. Yes right click on the Metro screen works too.

--
Bill
Motion Computing LE1600 Tablet ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino 758 1.5GHz - 1.5GB - Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005 SP2

[Todd[_5_]]

On 01/11/2013 07:46 PM, BillW50 wrote:
> In ,
> Todd typed:
>> On 01/11/2013 07:14 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>>> In ,
>>> Todd typed:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to get at the All Apps icon from the
>>>> Desktop without having to go to the Metro screen?
>>>> A short cut key?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> -T
>>>
>>> I use Win+Q to get there. Although you do have the charms pop up.
>>> But a quick ESC or a click somewhere else on the screen drops it.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Cool. Thank you.
>>
>> If I am not quick enough with the <Q>, the <Windows> key will
>> revert me to the Metro screen. Then I just right click on a
>> blank area.
>>
>> What a kludge!
>>
>> -T
>
> I never timed the keypresses, but if you hold down the Win key (like a
> shift key) and tap the Q key it should pop up. Now you can let up on the
> Win key. Yes right click on the Metro screen works too.


"Lets see. Press down <Win>, now what was that other key?
Stinking Metro!" I am in for a lot a retraining.

When my hand gets tired of the slide pad on a laptop
and my palm rubs the slide, I start getting all kinds
of garbage I have no idea how to deal with too.

I will prevail, but my vocabulary of swear words
may get a bit larger in the process. (Not an admission
that I cuss.)

-T

[mechanic]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 21:14:28 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

> In ,
> Todd typed:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Is there a way to get at the All Apps icon from the
>> Desktop without having to go to the Metro screen?
>> A short cut key?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> -T
>
> I use Win+Q to get there. Although you do have the charms pop up.

No it's not the Charms it's a search bar. Look more closely.

> But a quick ESC or a click somewhere else on the screen drops it.

Yes.

[BillW50]

On 1/12/2013 9:54 AM, mechanic wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 21:14:28 -0600, BillW50 wrote:
>> I use Win+Q to get there. Although you do have the charms pop up.
>
> No it's not the Charms it's a search bar. Look more closely.

DOH! Of course. Thanks! ;-)

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:43:48 -0800, Todd wrote:

>>>
>>> -T
>>
>> I never timed the keypresses, but if you hold down the Win key (like a
>> shift key) and tap the Q key it should pop up. Now you can let up on the
>> Win key. Yes right click on the Metro screen works too.
>
> "Lets see. Press down <Win>, now what was that other key?
> Stinking Metro!" I am in for a lot a retraining.

"Let's see. I'm going to press Windows-Q. Poise my finger over the Q
key, then press Windows and then the Q key."

If you have minimal coordination, you can complete it in a tenth of a
second.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Todd[_5_]]

On 01/13/2013 03:01 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:43:48 -0800, Todd wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> -T
>>>
>>> I never timed the keypresses, but if you hold down the Win key (like a
>>> shift key) and tap the Q key it should pop up. Now you can let up on the
>>> Win key. Yes right click on the Metro screen works too.
>>
>> "Lets see. Press down <Win>, now what was that other key?
>> Stinking Metro!" I am in for a lot a retraining.
>
> "Let's see. I'm going to press Windows-Q. Poise my finger over the Q
> key, then press Windows and then the Q key."
>
> If you have minimal coordination, you can complete it in a tenth of a
> second.
>

Hi Gene,

Yes, the second time. And provided I am not thinking of
something else, like where is the [explicative deleted]
Control Panel!

Apparently, when in the Desktop, you can get the Control
Panel from the Setup pop up. But, when in the Idiot Screen,
you have to get it from All Apps. I am finding
it easier to use Search to find what I want. AAAAAAHHHHH!

Like I said, I am in for a lot of retraining. And, when
my wrist gets tired on those slide pads ...

My one user so far on it (Christmas present, I would
have gone for the cheap perfume), remarked that "It is
so frustrating".

I am going to make a lot of money off of W8 -- it
is terrible. People are going to need tons of help.
So I am forcing myself to get up to speed as fast as I can.

I am loving <Win><X>.

-T

[..winston]

"Todd" wrote in message ...

> Apparently, when in the Desktop, you can get the Control
> Panel from the Setup pop up. But, when in the Idiot Screen,
> you have to get it from All Apps.

In All Apps, just right click on the Control Panel tile and
select Pin to Start Screen.

Once the tile is on the Start Screen you can move (drag) it to
another location or tile group.

Alternately, from the Modern UI (Start Screen) just start
typing Control Panel...the first few letters should be
sufficient to enable the Search engine and show
an icon for the Control Panel (click it to open)
- likewise that icon can also be rt. clicked and added
to the Start Screen

--
....winston
msft mvp

[Todd[_5_]]

On 01/13/2013 11:04 PM, ..winston wrote:
>
> "Todd" wrote in message ...
>
>> Apparently, when in the Desktop, you can get the Control
>> Panel from the Setup pop up. But, when in the Idiot Screen,
>> you have to get it from All Apps.
>
> In All Apps, just right click on the Control Panel tile and
> select Pin to Start Screen.

I keep forgetting I can do that. Then I could remove it
before giving it back to the customer.

>
> Once the tile is on the Start Screen you can move (drag) it to
> another location or tile group.

Did this with Firefox. (IE wouldn't let me talk to her
router. Just kept searching Bing for 192.168.1.1.) Hand
got tired and whacked the slide pad by accident. Took me
several tries. I hate slide pads. Should have done this with
Control Panel too.

>
> Alternately, from the Modern UI (Start Screen) just start
> typing Control Panel...the first few letters should be
> sufficient to enable the Search engine and show
> an icon for the Control Panel (click it to open)

This is the only way I found Paint. (I needed to copy a screen
shot of her router config.) Never did figure where Paint
actually resided.

> - likewise that icon can also be rt. clicked and added
> to the Start Screen
>

Cool. Thank you for the tips!

-T

I know I can create a w7 style Start button in the Desktop,
but I really want to force myself to learn the new way.
Hope I do not loose my mind in the process.

[R. C. White]

Hi, Todd.

> I hate slide pads.

What is a "slide pad"? Is that a new term you've invented? Or is it
something that comes with a touch screen - which I do not have?

RC
-- --
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3505.0912) in Win8 Pro


"Todd" wrote in message ...

On 01/13/2013 11:04 PM, ..winston wrote:
>
> "Todd" wrote in message ...
>
>> Apparently, when in the Desktop, you can get the Control
>> Panel from the Setup pop up. But, when in the Idiot Screen,
>> you have to get it from All Apps.
>
> In All Apps, just right click on the Control Panel tile and
> select Pin to Start Screen.

I keep forgetting I can do that. Then I could remove it
before giving it back to the customer.

>
> Once the tile is on the Start Screen you can move (drag) it to
> another location or tile group.

Did this with Firefox. (IE wouldn't let me talk to her
router. Just kept searching Bing for 192.168.1.1.) Hand
got tired and whacked the slide pad by accident. Took me
several tries. I hate slide pads. Should have done this with
Control Panel too.

>
> Alternately, from the Modern UI (Start Screen) just start
> typing Control Panel...the first few letters should be
> sufficient to enable the Search engine and show
> an icon for the Control Panel (click it to open)

This is the only way I found Paint. (I needed to copy a screen
shot of her router config.) Never did figure where Paint
actually resided.

> - likewise that icon can also be rt. clicked and added
> to the Start Screen
>

Cool. Thank you for the tips!

-T

I know I can create a w7 style Start button in the Desktop,
but I really want to force myself to learn the new way.
Hope I do not loose my mind in the process.

[Todd[_5_]]

On 01/14/2013 07:54 AM, R. C. White wrote:
> Hi, Todd.
>
>> I hate slide pads.
>
> What is a "slide pad"? Is that a new term you've invented? Or is it
> something that comes with a touch screen - which I do not have?
>
> RC

They are usually found on laptops. It is the touch
sensitive area, usually above the mouse buttons,
that you use your fingers on to move the mouse.
They are sometimes called "Touch Pads". Here is
a picture of one:

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/latc600/en/ug/touchpad.gif

Don't lay your wrist down on one or all hell
breaks loose under W8.

-T

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:54:50 -0600, R. C. White wrote:

> Hi, Todd.
>
>> I hate slide pads.
>
> What is a "slide pad"? Is that a new term you've invented? Or is it
> something that comes with a touch screen - which I do not have?
>
> RC
> -- --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
>
> Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
> Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3505.0912) in Win8 Pro
>
> "Todd" wrote in message ...
>
> On 01/13/2013 11:04 PM, ..winston wrote:
>>
>> "Todd" wrote in message ...
>>
>>> Apparently, when in the Desktop, you can get the Control
>>> Panel from the Setup pop up. But, when in the Idiot Screen,
>>> you have to get it from All Apps.
>>
>> In All Apps, just right click on the Control Panel tile and
>> select Pin to Start Screen.
>
> I keep forgetting I can do that. Then I could remove it
> before giving it back to the customer.
>
>>
>> Once the tile is on the Start Screen you can move (drag) it to
>> another location or tile group.
>
> Did this with Firefox. (IE wouldn't let me talk to her
> router. Just kept searching Bing for 192.168.1.1.) Hand
> got tired and whacked the slide pad by accident. Took me
> several tries. I hate slide pads. Should have done this with
> Control Panel too.
>
>>
>> Alternately, from the Modern UI (Start Screen) just start
>> typing Control Panel...the first few letters should be
>> sufficient to enable the Search engine and show
>> an icon for the Control Panel (click it to open)
>
> This is the only way I found Paint. (I needed to copy a screen
> shot of her router config.) Never did figure where Paint
> actually resided.
>
>> - likewise that icon can also be rt. clicked and added
>> to the Start Screen
>>
>
> Cool. Thank you for the tips!
>
> -T
>
> I know I can create a w7 style Start button in the Desktop,
> but I really want to force myself to learn the new way.
> Hope I do not loose my mind in the process.

I was guessing he meant mouse pad, but the context seemed to allow for a
bit of ambiguity :-)

Or maybe it's the thing on the third base line as you approach home
plate.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Todd[_5_]]

> I was guessing he meant mouse pad, but the context seemed to allow for a
> bit of ambiguity :-)

Or sometimes it is called a Glide Pad.

I had a customer that bought a pail of them for his business
years back. I hated the things. So did every one else,
but him. He eventually relented and let everyone else
use regular mice. Eventually he did too.

You can not rest your wrist on them. So your arm gets
tired of having to hold your hand in the air all the
time. (Hmmmm, I wonder if the W8 designers thought about
holding your arms in the air to operate a touch screen
monitor on a desktop?)

Sometimes, my Windows laptop users have me disable the
glide/slide pad and revert to an external mouse so they
can type in peace with their wrist laying on the
glide/slide pad. (The "P" in "PC" stands for personal.)

I am rambling.

-T

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:40:21 -0800, Todd wrote:

>> I was guessing he meant mouse pad, but the context seemed to allow for a
>> bit of ambiguity :-)
>
> Or sometimes it is called a Glide Pad.

I had not previously heard of either glide pad or slide pad.

> I had a customer that bought a pail of them for his business
> years back. I hated the things. So did every one else,
> but him. He eventually relented and let everyone else
> use regular mice. Eventually he did too.

I use my mouse pad; others I know hate them. A clear case of either (a)
personal preference, or (b) I don't use it enough to get annoyed :-)

> You can not rest your wrist on them. So your arm gets
> tired of having to hold your hand in the air all the
> time. (Hmmmm, I wonder if the W8 designers thought about
> holding your arms in the air to operate a touch screen
> monitor on a desktop?)

I have seen some comments, but I forget where, from people who think
that using a touch screen on a desktop, or even a laptop, will be
fatiguing. They seem to think it'll be OK for a tablet.

I agree with you and with them, and I haven't even tried it :-)

My friend one computer over plays FreeCell on the touch screen of her
Windows 7 all-in-one desktop computer. It doesn't seem to bother her,
but she's not available to ask at this moment. I don't think she uses
the touchscreen for other things, but I don't know.

> Sometimes, my Windows laptop users have me disable the
> glide/slide pad and revert to an external mouse so they
> can type in peace with their wrist laying on the
> glide/slide pad. (The "P" in "PC" stands for personal.)
>
> I am rambling.

:-)

> -T

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[..winston]

You're going to have to clarify where a router admin settings (192.168.1.1) including accessing its configuration menu comes into
play here and any relation to Windows 8 features - Start Screen (Modern UI), All Apps, and Control Panel

--
....winston
msft mvp


"Todd" wrote in message ...

On 01/13/2013 11:04 PM, ..winston wrote:
>
> "Todd" wrote in message ...
>
>> Apparently, when in the Desktop, you can get the Control
>> Panel from the Setup pop up. But, when in the Idiot Screen,
>> you have to get it from All Apps.
>
> In All Apps, just right click on the Control Panel tile and
> select Pin to Start Screen.

I keep forgetting I can do that. Then I could remove it
before giving it back to the customer.

>
> Once the tile is on the Start Screen you can move (drag) it to
> another location or tile group.

Did this with Firefox. (IE wouldn't let me talk to her
router. Just kept searching Bing for 192.168.1.1.) Hand
got tired and whacked the slide pad by accident. Took me
several tries. I hate slide pads. Should have done this with
Control Panel too.

>
> Alternately, from the Modern UI (Start Screen) just start
> typing Control Panel...the first few letters should be
> sufficient to enable the Search engine and show
> an icon for the Control Panel (click it to open)

This is the only way I found Paint. (I needed to copy a screen
shot of her router config.) Never did figure where Paint
actually resided.

> - likewise that icon can also be rt. clicked and added
> to the Start Screen
>

Cool. Thank you for the tips!

-T

I know I can create a w7 style Start button in the Desktop,
but I really want to force myself to learn the new way.
Hope I do not loose my mind in the process.

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:55:16 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch" <not-
> wrote in article
>...
>
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:40:21 -0800, Todd wrote:
>
> >> I was guessing he meant mouse pad, but the context seemed to allow for a
> >> bit of ambiguity :-)
> >
> > Or sometimes it is called a Glide Pad.
>
> I had not previously heard of either glide pad or slide pad.

Nor I - or if I did, I wasn't paying attention.
>
> > I had a customer that bought a pail of them for his business
> > years back. I hated the things. So did every one else,
> > but him. He eventually relented and let everyone else
> > use regular mice. Eventually he did too.
>
> I use my mouse pad; others I know hate them. A clear case of either (a)
> personal preference, or (b) I don't use it enough to get annoyed :-)

I also like them, but know several people who don't - emphatically.
>
> > You can not rest your wrist on them. So your arm gets
> > tired of having to hold your hand in the air all the
> > time. (Hmmmm, I wonder if the W8 designers thought about
> > holding your arms in the air to operate a touch screen
> > monitor on a desktop?)
>
> I have seen some comments, but I forget where, from people who think
> that using a touch screen on a desktop, or even a laptop, will be
> fatiguing. They seem to think it'll be OK for a tablet.
>
> I agree with you and with them, and I haven't even tried it :-)
>

Having used Windows 8 both on a desktop PC with a touch screen and on a
tablet, I agree - for a desktop, it is too tiring but on a tablet it
works well. That also mimics my opinion of the new Windows 8 UI...

--
Zaphod

Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, ya know? - Gag Halfrunt

[Gene Wirchenko[_2_]]

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:18:32 -0800, Todd > wrote:

>On 01/14/2013 07:54 AM, R. C. White wrote:

>>> I hate slide pads.
>>
>> What is a "slide pad"? Is that a new term you've invented? Or is it
>> something that comes with a touch screen - which I do not have?

>They are usually found on laptops. It is the touch
>sensitive area, usually above the mouse buttons,
>that you use your fingers on to move the mouse.
>They are sometimes called "Touch Pads". Here is
>a picture of one:
>
>http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/latc600/en/ug/touchpad.gif

For one, I had never heard of the term "slide pad", and Google
was not any help. "touch pad" is the term that I have heard.

>Don't lay your wrist down on one or all hell
>breaks loose under W8.

Depending on what your hands are like, you might not even have to
touch it. Maybe, it is my extremely dry hands, but I have clicked
using one when I was not even touching it. I checked later, and I was
able to cause a click action when my finger was about 1/16" away from
the touchpad.

Guess who much prefers a regular mouse with his laptop.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

[Todd[_5_]]

On 01/14/2013 10:57 AM, ..winston wrote:
> You're going to have to clarify where a router admin settings
> (192.168.1.1) including accessing its configuration menu comes into play
> here and any relation to Windows 8 features - Start Screen (Modern UI),
> All Apps, and Control Panel

I am not sure what you are getting at. But, W8 comes with IE
and Bing preinstalled. So unless you install Chrome or Firefox,
it is a pain in the neck to configure a consumer level router.

There is a work around. Press <ctrl><O> and type the I.P.
directly into the box. (Note: <Cltr> not <Win> and the letter
"O" not zero.)

As a security enhancement, it is a good idea to get your
customers off IE anyway. I was just trying to save time.

[Ken Blake[_4_]]

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:18:32 -0800, Todd > wrote:

> On 01/14/2013 07:54 AM, R. C. White wrote:
> > Hi, Todd.
> >
> >> I hate slide pads.
> >
> > What is a "slide pad"? Is that a new term you've invented? Or is it
> > something that comes with a touch screen - which I do not have?
> >
> > RC
>
> They are usually found on laptops. It is the touch
> sensitive area, usually above the mouse buttons,
> that you use your fingers on to move the mouse.
> They are sometimes called "Touch Pads".


I, and the rest of us here I'm sure, certainly know what a touchpad
is. But I've never hear it called a "slide pad" before.


--
Ken Blake

[Todd[_5_]]

On 01/14/2013 04:42 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:18:32 -0800, Todd > wrote:
>
>> On 01/14/2013 07:54 AM, R. C. White wrote:
>>> Hi, Todd.
>>>
>>>> I hate slide pads.
>>>
>>> What is a "slide pad"? Is that a new term you've invented? Or is it
>>> something that comes with a touch screen - which I do not have?
>>>
>>> RC
>>
>> They are usually found on laptops. It is the touch
>> sensitive area, usually above the mouse buttons,
>> that you use your fingers on to move the mouse.
>> They are sometimes called "Touch Pads".
>
>
> I, and the rest of us here I'm sure, certainly know what a touchpad
> is. But I've never hear it called a "slide pad" before.

I may be remembering something from 15 years ago

[Todd[_5_]]

On 01/14/2013 06:25 PM, Todd wrote:
> On 01/14/2013 04:42 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:18:32 -0800, Todd > wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/14/2013 07:54 AM, R. C. White wrote:
>>>> Hi, Todd.
>>>>
>>>>> I hate slide pads.
>>>>
>>>> What is a "slide pad"? Is that a new term you've invented? Or is it
>>>> something that comes with a touch screen - which I do not have?
>>>>
>>>> RC
>>>
>>> They are usually found on laptops. It is the touch
>>> sensitive area, usually above the mouse buttons,
>>> that you use your fingers on to move the mouse.
>>> They are sometimes called "Touch Pads".
>>
>>
>> I, and the rest of us here I'm sure, certainly know what a touchpad
>> is. But I've never hear it called a "slide pad" before.
>
> I may be remembering something from 15 years ago
>

I went looking to see if I could even find mention of
those external abominations from 15 years ago. Could not
find a thing. (Maybe they were blocked from memory.)

I may be remembering some trade name.

[..winston]

My point...the router has nothing to do with All Apps or the Windows Start Screen or the Windows Control Panel (which was your
original purpose in asking a question)

Bing has nothing to do with setting up a router.

Every single router I've configured on Win8 has been done without the need for Chrome or Firefox.
- no workaround
- IE10 (Desktop)


To access the router admin I just type the ip address into the browser's address bar.

Another question if I may...
- were you using IE 10 Modern UI/Start Screen (fka IE Metro which operates in full screen, no menu/command bar mode) when
attempting to configure a router or were you using IE10 Desktop which provides the traditional IE browser mode ?



--
....winston
msft mvp


"Todd" wrote in message ...

On 01/14/2013 10:57 AM, ..winston wrote:
> You're going to have to clarify where a router admin settings
> (192.168.1.1) including accessing its configuration menu comes into play
> here and any relation to Windows 8 features - Start Screen (Modern UI),
> All Apps, and Control Panel

I am not sure what you are getting at. But, W8 comes with IE
and Bing preinstalled. So unless you install Chrome or Firefox,
it is a pain in the neck to configure a consumer level router.

There is a work around. Press <ctrl><O> and type the I.P.
directly into the box. (Note: <Cltr> not <Win> and the letter
"O" not zero.)

As a security enhancement, it is a good idea to get your
customers off IE anyway. I was just trying to save time.

[Todd[_5_]]

On 01/14/2013 10:26 PM, ..winston wrote:
> My point...the router has nothing to do with All Apps or the Windows
> Start Screen or the Windows Control Panel (which was your
> original purpose in asking a question)

Topics can tend to drift. Especially amongst friends.

> Bing has nothing to do with setting up a router.

Things settled down after I removed Bing and installed
Google as the search tool. Bing is terrible anyway.
Better off without it. Could not figure out how to get
Start Page (my favorite) installed. Perhaps for W8
friendly yet. I make Start Page her home page.

> Every single router I've configured on Win8 has been done without the
> need for Chrome or Firefox.
> - no workaround
> - IE10 (Desktop)

Perhaps some routers are different. I got the <ctrl><O> tip
from Frontier tech support. They are the ones who identified
the Bing problem for me. When you typed in the IP, the IP resolved
to a huge, long string of stuff that was not in the router.

>
> To access the router admin I just type the ip address into the browser's
> address bar.
>
> Another question if I may...
> - were you using IE 10 Modern UI/Start Screen (fka IE Metro which
> operates in full screen, no menu/command bar mode) when attempting to
> configure a router or were you using IE10 Desktop which provides the
> traditional IE browser mode ?

I started IE from the Desktop. Not for any particular reason
other than the customer was in Desktop when she handed it to me.
I thought she was using W7 for about 30 seconds before I uttered
my first swear word. (I got a lot of retraining to get use to W8.
Folks are going to need a lot of help.)

-T

[Ken Blake[_4_]]

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:25:20 -0800, Todd > wrote:

> On 01/14/2013 04:42 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:18:32 -0800, Todd > wrote:
> >
> >> On 01/14/2013 07:54 AM, R. C. White wrote:
> >>> Hi, Todd.
> >>>
> >>>> I hate slide pads.
> >>>
> >>> What is a "slide pad"? Is that a new term you've invented? Or is it
> >>> something that comes with a touch screen - which I do not have?
> >>>
> >>> RC
> >>
> >> They are usually found on laptops. It is the touch
> >> sensitive area, usually above the mouse buttons,
> >> that you use your fingers on to move the mouse.
> >> They are sometimes called "Touch Pads".
> >
> >
> > I, and the rest of us here I'm sure, certainly know what a touchpad
> > is. But I've never hear it called a "slide pad" before.
>
> I may be remembering something from 15 years ago


I've been using computers since 1962, and personal computers since
1987. I don't remember coming across the term "slide pad" fifteen
years ago or any time before then either.

I suppose it's possible that I heard or saw the term somewhere and
have just forgotten, but it's not possible that it was commonly used,
or I wouldn't have forgotten it.



--
Ken Blake

[Todd[_5_]]

On 01/15/2013 08:27 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:25:20 -0800, Todd > wrote:
>
>> On 01/14/2013 04:42 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:18:32 -0800, Todd > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 01/14/2013 07:54 AM, R. C. White wrote:
>>>>> Hi, Todd.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I hate slide pads.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is a "slide pad"? Is that a new term you've invented? Or is it
>>>>> something that comes with a touch screen - which I do not have?
>>>>>
>>>>> RC
>>>>
>>>> They are usually found on laptops. It is the touch
>>>> sensitive area, usually above the mouse buttons,
>>>> that you use your fingers on to move the mouse.
>>>> They are sometimes called "Touch Pads".
>>>
>>>
>>> I, and the rest of us here I'm sure, certainly know what a touchpad
>>> is. But I've never hear it called a "slide pad" before.
>>
>> I may be remembering something from 15 years ago
>
>
> I've been using computers since 1962, and personal computers since
> 1987. I don't remember coming across the term "slide pad" fifteen
> years ago or any time before then either.
>
> I suppose it's possible that I heard or saw the term somewhere and
> have just forgotten, but it's not possible that it was commonly used,
> or I wouldn't have forgotten it.

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