Problem moving XP from one computer to another.

[mike[_10_]]

I want to upgrade my XP SP3 machine.
I do not want to reinstall everything.
I'm also changing from IDE hard drive to SATA.
I used a procedure that has worked with win7.

Sysprep the machine. Context for win XP sysprep
is a little different...I used Factory.

Shutdown and use Macrium Reflect 6 rescue disk to backup the system.

Use Macrium Reflect rescue disk to restore to the new hardware.

Reboot and do the ootb stuff.

Install required drivers.

System activates online. That I didn't expect.
I have a license key for the new hardware, but didn't
need it.

It sorta works, but acts strangely.
At each reboot, the sysprep window opens.
I get the balloon at the start menu telling me to
click it...
Tried a bunch of programs and they seem to work.
Macrium Reflect won't backup the system. It hangs
at checking the hard disk. I get a lot of disk
activity initially, but it drops to little activity
and does nothing else. If I click cancel, it doesn't.
Rescue disk backs it up fine.

You'd think sysprep is still running.

I messed with it all day. chkdsk /F, sfc /scannow,
Ccleaner, poked around in the device manager,
and the registry; finally gave up.
Decided to try a recovery install.
That hangs about halfway thru "Installing Devices".
It's not locked up, the slideshow still runs.

If I start with a fresh hard disk and install XP, it works fine.
I just don't want to install all that software if I can help it.

Target machine is Dell Optiplex 360, if that matters.

Any ideas on how to make this work?

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message >, mike >
writes:
>I want to upgrade my XP SP3 machine.
>I do not want to reinstall everything.
>I'm also changing from IDE hard drive to SATA.
>I used a procedure that has worked with win7.

Is this a retail XP you bought when building the old machine, or did the
old machine come built and with XP preinstalled (i. e. OEM) - or is it
an OEM you bought and installed yourself?
>
>Sysprep the machine. Context for win XP sysprep
>is a little different...I used Factory.
>
>Shutdown and use Macrium Reflect 6 rescue disk to backup the system.
>
>Use Macrium Reflect rescue disk to restore to the new hardware.
>
>Reboot and do the ootb stuff.
>
>Install required drivers.
>
>System activates online. That I didn't expect.
>I have a license key for the new hardware, but didn't
>need it.
>
>It sorta works, but acts strangely.
>At each reboot, the sysprep window opens.
>I get the balloon at the start menu telling me to
>click it...
>Tried a bunch of programs and they seem to work.
>Macrium Reflect won't backup the system. It hangs

You mean MR running as a prog. from within XP?

>at checking the hard disk. I get a lot of disk
>activity initially, but it drops to little activity
>and does nothing else. If I click cancel, it doesn't.
>Rescue disk backs it up fine.
>
>You'd think sysprep is still running.
>
>I messed with it all day. chkdsk /F, sfc /scannow,
>Ccleaner, poked around in the device manager,
>and the registry; finally gave up.
>Decided to try a recovery install.
>That hangs about halfway thru "Installing Devices".
>It's not locked up, the slideshow still runs.
>
>If I start with a fresh hard disk and install XP, it works fine.
>I just don't want to install all that software if I can help it.
>
>Target machine is Dell Optiplex 360, if that matters.
>
>Any ideas on how to make this work?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"If god doesn't like the way I live, Let him tell me, not you." - unknown

[mike[_10_]]

On 11/8/2015 6:38 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message >, mike > writes:
>> I want to upgrade my XP SP3 machine.
>> I do not want to reinstall everything.
>> I'm also changing from IDE hard drive to SATA.
>> I used a procedure that has worked with win7.
>
> Is this a retail XP you bought when building the old machine, or did the
> old machine come built and with XP preinstalled (i. e. OEM) - or is it
> an OEM you bought and installed yourself?

I don't know the history. System properties page thinks it's OEM.
>>
>> Sysprep the machine. Context for win XP sysprep
>> is a little different...I used Factory.
>>
>> Shutdown and use Macrium Reflect 6 rescue disk to backup the system.
>>
>> Use Macrium Reflect rescue disk to restore to the new hardware.
>>
>> Reboot and do the ootb stuff.
>>
>> Install required drivers.
>>
>> System activates online. That I didn't expect.
>> I have a license key for the new hardware, but didn't
>> need it.
>>
>> It sorta works, but acts strangely.
>> At each reboot, the sysprep window opens.
>> I get the balloon at the start menu telling me to
>> click it...
>> Tried a bunch of programs and they seem to work.
>> Macrium Reflect won't backup the system. It hangs
>
> You mean MR running as a prog. from within XP?
>
>> at checking the hard disk. I get a lot of disk
>> activity initially, but it drops to little activity
>> and does nothing else. If I click cancel, it doesn't.
>> Rescue disk backs it up fine.
>>
>> You'd think sysprep is still running.
>>
>> I messed with it all day. chkdsk /F, sfc /scannow,
>> Ccleaner, poked around in the device manager,
>> and the registry; finally gave up.
>> Decided to try a recovery install.
>> That hangs about halfway thru "Installing Devices".
>> It's not locked up, the slideshow still runs.
>>
>> If I start with a fresh hard disk and install XP, it works fine.
>> I just don't want to install all that software if I can help it.
>>
>> Target machine is Dell Optiplex 360, if that matters.
>>
>> Any ideas on how to make this work?

[mike[_10_]]

On 11/8/2015 9:46 AM, mike wrote:

>>>
>>> You'd think sysprep is still running.
That's because it is.
With XP, you have to "reseal" after the move.
Now, it lets me put in my key and all is good.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message >, mike >
writes:
>On 11/8/2015 6:38 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>> In message >, mike > writes:
>>> I want to upgrade my XP SP3 machine.
>>> I do not want to reinstall everything.
>>> I'm also changing from IDE hard drive to SATA.
>>> I used a procedure that has worked with win7.
>>
>> Is this a retail XP you bought when building the old machine, or did the
>> old machine come built and with XP preinstalled (i. e. OEM) - or is it
>> an OEM you bought and installed yourself?
>
>I don't know the history. System properties page thinks it's OEM.
[]
If by "upgrade my XP SP3 machine", you mean "replace it with something
better (and transfer the XP)", then received wisdom is that OEM Windows
licences don't allow this, and will fail to activate. A certain amount
of hardware replacement is allowed, for replacement and (gradual, such
as more RAM) purposes, but if it gets over a certain threshold within a
certain time, it requires reactivation, and received wisdom (again) is
that replacing a motherboard is usually above the threshold.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when
you make it again. -Franklin P. Jones

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On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 20:55:09 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
> wrote:

>In message >, mike >
>writes:
>>On 11/8/2015 6:38 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>> In message >, mike > writes:
>>>> I want to upgrade my XP SP3 machine.
>>>> I do not want to reinstall everything.
>>>> I'm also changing from IDE hard drive to SATA.
>>>> I used a procedure that has worked with win7.
>>>
>>> Is this a retail XP you bought when building the old machine, or did the
>>> old machine come built and with XP preinstalled (i. e. OEM) - or is it
>>> an OEM you bought and installed yourself?
>>
>>I don't know the history. System properties page thinks it's OEM.
>[]
>If by "upgrade my XP SP3 machine", you mean "replace it with something
>better (and transfer the XP)", then received wisdom is that OEM Windows
>licences don't allow this, and will fail to activate. A certain amount
>of hardware replacement is allowed, for replacement and (gradual, such
>as more RAM) purposes, but if it gets over a certain threshold within a
>certain time, it requires reactivation, and received wisdom (again) is
>that replacing a motherboard is usually above the threshold.

I think MS has simply opened up the XP activation server these days. I
have reused several OEM versions on different machines and it let me
activate. I am pretty sure I have 2 running on the same key here right
now. (an accident but one I got away with) In the past I know this was
not true.