2 good downloads but 3 that failed at the end.

[Micky]

I had two good downloads today, but also three that failed,
repeatedly, 2 or all of them at the very end.

I wouldn't post about that, but I watched two and they made it all the
way to "A few seconds remaining" and after a few seconds of that, they
failed.

Isn't that surprising?

What else I think is surprising is that I've tried several times to
redownload them after that and they woudln't even start. Before the
progress bar moved a bit, it said Failed.

This might all be true of the 3rd one too. Maybe I wasn't watching
one time when it almost made it to the end.

My netbook running XP has only 1gig RAM and I've got a lot of programs
running. I can imagine that being a problem but not in the last few
seconds, I have about 60 empty gigs on the HDD.

I also imagine that the internet goes in and out. I'm sure it does at
my house, but it's probably my imagination here, and doesn't XP know
how to wait until the signatl is back?

[Micky]

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:04:03 +0200, Micky >
wrote:

>I had two good downloads today, but also three that failed,
>repeatedly, 2 or all of them at the very end.
>
>I wouldn't post about that, but I watched two and they made it all the
>way to "A few seconds remaining" and after a few seconds of that, they
>failed.
>
>Isn't that surprising?
>
>What else I think is surprising is that I've tried several times to
>redownload them after that and they woudln't even start. Before the
>progress bar moved a bit, it said Failed.

If there is something on my computer now that keeps these dls from
starting, I should be able to undo it...... OH, yeah, just writing
this reminded me to look and the .part files were still there.

Removed them, some more than twice, and finally dl'd all of htem


Very Sorry to have bothered you.


>This might all be true of the 3rd one too. Maybe I wasn't watching
>one time when it almost made it to the end.
>
>My netbook running XP has only 1gig RAM and I've got a lot of programs
>running. I can imagine that being a problem but not in the last few
>seconds, I have about 60 empty gigs on the HDD.
>
>I also imagine that the internet goes in and out. I'm sure it does at
>my house, but it's probably my imagination here,

But it will do 18Megs in 5 or 10 seconds and then just stop for 20
seconds or more

> and doesn't XP know
>how to wait until the signatl is back?

[VanguardLH[_2_]]

Micky wrote:

> I had two good downloads today, but also three that failed,
> repeatedly, 2 or all of them at the very end.
>
> I wouldn't post about that, but I watched two and they made it all the
> way to "A few seconds remaining" and after a few seconds of that, they
> failed.

Temporarily disable your anti-virus software while performing the
download. If the download completes okay, reenable your AV program
before using/extracting/running those downloads.

> What else I think is surprising is that I've tried several times to
> redownload them after that and they woudln't even start. Before the
> progress bar moved a bit, it said Failed.

Are the failed downloads originating from the same server? How do you
know there isn't a problem at the server? Have you tried the same sized
downloads, or larger, from other sources? You don't give specifics so
it is unclear if you are having problems with downloads from a specific
source or with downloads from anywhere.

> I also imagine that the internet goes in and out. I'm sure it does at
> my house, but it's probably my imagination here, and doesn't XP know
> how to wait until the signatl is back?

You rarely get a direct connect from endpoint (you) to endpoint (target
host) over the Internet. There are hops (aka nodes aka hosts) between
you and the other end. Routing is not dynamic: because you cannot reach
a destination host or because some hops between you and it are slow,
down, or erratic does not generate a new route for you. You can wait
for the problem to clear or report a routing problem to your ISP to see
if they will update their routing table to circumvent the problematic
host(s). Quite often a large domain uses boundary hosts to redirect
traffic to the appropriate internal hosts. One boundary host could be
****ed but you have to contact the domain admin to have them check it
out and perhaps disable it so you get through on a different boundary
host. That can often be tested by using a different route to their
domain which happens to hit a different boundary host. There are public
proxies through which you can connect to a site in attempting to hit a
different boundary host at their domain; however, there are often
limitations to use of public proxies, like how much traffic your session
can pass through them and what type of traffic they permit.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]]

In message >, Micky
> writes:
>On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:04:03 +0200, Micky >
>wrote:
>
>>I had two good downloads today, but also three that failed,
>>repeatedly, 2 or all of them at the very end.
>>
>>I wouldn't post about that, but I watched two and they made it all the
>>way to "A few seconds remaining" and after a few seconds of that, they
>>failed.

(What browser? Sounds like Firefox.)
>>
>>Isn't that surprising?
>>
>>What else I think is surprising is that I've tried several times to
>>redownload them after that and they woudln't even start. Before the
>>progress bar moved a bit, it said Failed.
>
>If there is something on my computer now that keeps these dls from
>starting, I should be able to undo it...... OH, yeah, just writing
>this reminded me to look and the .part files were still there.
>
>Removed them, some more than twice, and finally dl'd all of htem
>
Sometimes (regardless of whether you have .part files), a remote host
won't repeat a download, especially where it's something you're paying
for (were you?).
>
>Very Sorry to have bothered you.
>
No trouble.
>
>>This might all be true of the 3rd one too. Maybe I wasn't watching
>>one time when it almost made it to the end.
>>
>>My netbook running XP has only 1gig RAM and I've got a lot of programs
>>running. I can imagine that being a problem but not in the last few

I ran for a long time with only 1G, and didn't see much change when I
went to 2G. For the last few months (maybe a year or two) though, I've
been exceeding 1G quite often - usually, I think, with browsers; I don't
think I've changed much else. (Web page designers nowadays put so much
crud - scripts etc. - in their pages that having a few tabs open soon
eats up the memory.) It's easy to see if you need more, anyway: start
Task Manager (right-click on an empty part of the taskbar, or
Ctrl-Alt-Del), select the Performance tab, and look at the lower bar
(headed "PF Usage"); if that's over, or even near, your 1G, you need to
consider adding more. (Or swapping the existing module[s] if no free
slots.) It's cheap enough - if you can find any to suit your old
machine! But I expect you can.

>>seconds, I have about 60 empty gigs on the HDD.
60G HD free should be OK for a while, though perhaps time to _start_
thinking about upping it (or adding a second drive if it's a desktop
machine) within a year or two - that's 60G out of how much?
>>
>>I also imagine that the internet goes in and out. I'm sure it does at
>>my house, but it's probably my imagination here,
>
>But it will do 18Megs in 5 or 10 seconds and then just stop for 20
>seconds or more

As Vanguard says, it's not necessarily _your_ connection, it could be
the server, or anything in between. The Networking tab in Task Manager
(see above) will show you what's going on; I also like BitMeter
(http://codebox.org.uk/pages/bitmeter), which has an audio function: I
have it set to a pip every 100 kB, which I find useful when doing a big
download or a moderate upload (such as an email with an attachment) - I
can carry on with something else, and _hear_ if the transfer pauses.
(You'd set a different interval if your link is normally faster or
slower than mine.) [Many other such utilities are available; I don't
know of any others that have the audio, but probably some do.]
>
>> and doesn't XP know
>>how to wait until the signatl is back?
>
To some extent I think it does (arguably it's the browser that needs to,
assuming you're downloading through that); however, the remote server
may or may not play ball - obviously they nearly all have _some_ time
setting after which they give up, and also if your local link really is
failing and you have to reconnect, you may get a different IP address
(depending on how your ISP and telco have arranged things), in which
case the remote host may not know you're the same person unless you
manually restart the download.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

> > Won't you come into the garden? I would like my roses to see you. -Richard