Dave Doe > wrote:
> Dave Doe says...
>
>> , VanguardLH SAID ...
>>>
>>> Dave Doe > wrote:
>>>
>>>> , aolie SAID ...
>>>>
>>>>> Need Free eMail account With NO phone number and NO alternate eMail
>>>>> required. I have neither !
>>>>
>>>> I don't think G-mail *forces* you to do that. Try it!
>>>
>>> http://imgur.com/a/kWHKs
>>>
>>> Not only do they want a phone number but they want a *mobile* phone
>>> number (so they can send you text alerts if you choose that option).
>>> They also demand an alternate e-mail address. See the red boxes that
>>> highlight the required fields.
>>
>> The don't *require* it. Try it!
>
> What Google *wants* and what is manditory, are quite different things.
> You are only *asked* for an alternative e-mail and a phone number.
>
> It is NOT required.
Last time I created another Gmail account, they did require a mobile
phone number. Since I had already used it for an existing Gmail
account, they refused to let me create another account. They demanded a
phone number, it was already used, so they wouldn't give me another
account.
I just tried it. Yep, you are correct. I left the phone and alternate
e-mail fields blank when creating a test account. They created the
account. So something has changed since I last tried. People were
complaining back at the end of December 2015 about the phone number
requirement. It's been that long, or longer, since I last tried
creating another Gmail account and got blocked by the phone number
requirement.
I've read articles less than 3 months old that say a phone number is
required. The claim is, yes, you can initially create a new Gmail
account without giving out a phone number or alternate e-mail address.
If you do not provide a recovery (alternate) e-mail address (and which
requires validation to activate), you later get a message requiring you
to provide a phone number. This is reported by others getting nailed
with the phone requirement. I found someone complaining about this just
5 days ago. I didn't bother keeping this test Gmail account (that let
me in without a phone number and no alternate e-mail address) to see if
it stays that way indefinitely or if I get prompted after several days
from now. From recent reports, you give them a phone number but do not
have to give them an alternate e-mail address, or you give them an
alternate e-mail address but do not have to give them a phone number,
but you'll soon get nailed if you give them neither.
Yes, a new Gmail account can be created without doling out a phone
number or alternate e-mail address. I had presumed whomever did this
wanted to *keep* that Gmail account. I hadn't considered use by
spammers, abusers, malcontents, or other nefarious uses of Gmail where
having a viable account for just a few days was satisfactory.
https://support.google.com/plus/answer/183723?hl=en
"You don't have to provide a recovery email address or phone number, ..."
That's their published policy. Users have reported, and recently, that
they did eventually have to provide one or the other.
<aside>
By the way, I found out the hard way, that if you do specify a recovery
e-mail address that it better not also have similar lockouts as Gmail.
I went on a trip and Gmail said it did not recognize my computer. Yeah,
I took a netbook with me and used the resort's wi-fi. Nope, couldn't
use my mobile phone for recovery so I could get into my Gmail account.
Got distracted by my libido and my phone went into the hot tub with me.
It was dead and no longer a recovery method.
So, gee, I've got a recovery e-mail address recorded in my Gmail account
so I'll just have Google send a validation message to that other e-mail
account. They sent the message. Now for me to log into my other e-mail
account: Hotmail. Microsoft did the same **** as Google. They said
they didn't recognize my computer and wanted to go through the
validation process. My Hotmail account had specified my Gmail account
as the recovery e-mail address. Both providers locked me out to protect
my account ... from me ... because I had logged in from somewhere other
than my prior usual physical locations.
No phone for recovery and both accounts were locked out and each one
pointed at the other as the recovery e-mail address. Took awhile to
come up with a solution. I had setup a VNC connection to my home
computer using OpenDNS as a DDNS (so I didn't have to remember my home
router's WAN-side IP address) which was left running. So I connected
the network from the resort back to my home computer which then
connected to Gmail using its IP address. That location was known and
previously okayed so I got into Gmail (and did the same for Hotmail).
First thing I did was change the recovery e-mail address in both
accounts to my ISP's e-mail address which does not employ all that
geolocation or IP address (known endpoint) protection bull****. Yeah,
next time my phone may be working but what if the same thing happened,
or someone stole my phone, or it broke, or I lost it, or I was somewhere
that my phone didn't work with the networks around me? I'd be ****ed
over again because Google and Microsoft were protecting my accounts but
protecting them from *me*. Maybe there are some settings in Hotmail and
Gmail to disable that overreaching protection but I didn't find any.
So if Google and Microsoft engage their account protection against you,
how are you going to validate yourself without a phone number on the
account or an alternate e-mail address (that remains usable under the
same circumstances under which Google or Microsoft locked you out)?
</aside>