Dedicated SSD in desktop to test win 10

[HS[_2_]]

I use a desktop.

I purchased a low cost 64 gig ssd and have installed win 10 on it.

It eliminates lots of hassle.

I do have to go to the bios to change disk priorities before installation
and change back afterwards.

With my Gigabyte motherboard F12 give me the boot options

I also have another low cost SSD with Ubuntu installed on it.

I play with Ubuntu when bored.

HS

[Ed Cryer]

HS wrote:
> I use a desktop.
>
> I purchased a low cost 64 gig ssd and have installed win 10 on it.
>
> It eliminates lots of hassle.
>
> I do have to go to the bios to change disk priorities before installation
> and change back afterwards.
>
> With my Gigabyte motherboard F12 give me the boot options
>
> I also have another low cost SSD with Ubuntu installed on it.
>
> I play with Ubuntu when bored.
>
> HS

I get bored but never enough to even think of looking into Ubuntu.
When I get bored I play Pentix on an iPad.
And best of all I try to make sense of Bob Dylan's "Desolation Row".
That's my favourite way of handling ennui. I might capture the full
meaning in words and get them on paper; ring Dylan and ask him if it's
so; and he'll say "Yes man, you got it. You peeled back all the levels
of meaning, all the intertwined metaphors and similes, and you revealed
the naked truth.
Hhhmm. But on the other hand you just killed life itself with your
insistence on an ultimate, knowable reality. You pinned it all down with
logic, and stole the juice".

Here lies Ed; the man whole stole the juice.

Ed

[...winston‫]

HS wrote:
> I use a desktop.
>
> I purchased a low cost 64 gig ssd and have installed win 10 on it.
>
> It eliminates lots of hassle.
>
> I do have to go to the bios to change disk priorities before installation
> and change back afterwards.
>
> With my Gigabyte motherboard F12 give me the boot options
>
> I also have another low cost SSD with Ubuntu installed on it.
>
> I play with Ubuntu when bored.
>
> HS
Why do you have to switch back after shutting W10TP down ?

Did you install W10TP to the 64GB SSD while your original drive was
still connected ?
- If you didn't is your bios not capable of selecting an alternate
bootable o/s device without changing the default bios setup ?

--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

[HS[_2_]]

....winston‫ wrote:
> HS wrote:
>> I use a desktop.
>>
>> I purchased a low cost 64 gig ssd and have installed win 10 on it.
>>
>> It eliminates lots of hassle.
>>
>> I do have to go to the bios to change disk priorities before installation
>> and change back afterwards.
>>
>> With my Gigabyte motherboard F12 give me the boot options
>>
>> I also have another low cost SSD with Ubuntu installed on it.
>>
>> I play with Ubuntu when bored.
>>
>> HS
> Why do you have to switch back after shutting W10TP down ?
>
> Did you install W10TP to the 64GB SSD while your original drive was
> still connected ?

Yes.

I changed the boot option in Bios to Sandisk before inserting the DVD


> - If you didn't is your bios not capable of selecting an alternate
> bootable o/s device without changing the default bios setup ?
>

After the installation I have reset my bios to boot into win 8.1 after installing 10

If I want to test win 10 I will press F12 when booting and it gives me
the boot choices
DVD uefi
DVD
Disk x - - 120 gig samsung (where I got win 8 installed)
Disk xx 64 gig sandisk ( win 10)
Disk xxx 64 gig adata (Ubuntu)
Disk xxxx 500 gig (my backup disk)

I am not using UEFI

HS.

[Rene Lamontagne]

On 11/8/2014 3:55 PM, HS wrote:
>
>
> ...winston‫ wrote:
>> HS wrote:
>>> I use a desktop.
>>>
>>> I purchased a low cost 64 gig ssd and have installed win 10 on it.
>>>
>>> It eliminates lots of hassle.
>>>
>>> I do have to go to the bios to change disk priorities before
>>> installation
>>> and change back afterwards.
>>>
>>> With my Gigabyte motherboard F12 give me the boot options
>>>
>>> I also have another low cost SSD with Ubuntu installed on it.
>>>
>>> I play with Ubuntu when bored.
>>>
>>> HS
>> Why do you have to switch back after shutting W10TP down ?
>>
>> Did you install W10TP to the 64GB SSD while your original drive was
>> still connected ?
>
> Yes.
>
> I changed the boot option in Bios to Sandisk before inserting the DVD
>
>
>> - If you didn't is your bios not capable of selecting an alternate
>> bootable o/s device without changing the default bios setup ?
>>
>
> After the installation I have reset my bios to boot into win 8.1 after
> installing 10
>
> If I want to test win 10 I will press F12 when booting and it gives me
> the boot choices
> DVD uefi
> DVD
> Disk x - - 120 gig samsung (where I got win 8 installed)
> Disk xx 64 gig sandisk ( win 10)
> Disk xxx 64 gig adata (Ubuntu)
> Disk xxxx 500 gig (my backup disk)
>
> I am not using UEFI
>
> HS.

When I installed Win 10TP I left my main Win8.1 SSD drive connected and
installed to a seperate SSD.
Now when the system is booting it gives me the option of using Win8.1 or
Win10TP, no mucking in bios or F12 needed.

Regards, Rene

[HS[_2_]]

Rene Lamontagne wrote:

> When I installed Win 10TP I left my main Win8.1 SSD drive connected and
> installed to a seperate SSD.
> Now when the system is booting it gives me the option of using Win8.1 or
> Win10TP, no mucking in bios or F12 needed.
>
> Regards, Rene
>

Hi Rene

I did the same as you at first with a menu of booting choice if I kept
win 8 disk as boot option 1

How would I get UBUNTU on the menu afterwards?

In fact if I am not careful Grub would get installed on win 8 hard
disk and I would see an ugly Grub menu.

MUCKING around with the bios is something i have enjoyed and has been educational :-)

I only do it at home in my spare time and NOT in my office which has
windows 8.1 on my computer, Win 7 on my adminstrative assistants computer
and Windows xp on my lab equipment where I make my living :-)

Something like this equipment.

http://www.mfimedical.com/teca-synergy-t2x-emg.html

I am going to retire in 3 years so will continue to use this win xp based dinosaur
which the manufacturer has "retired" (means no spare parts if needed. Only available
on second hand resale market)..

HS

[Joel]

I like better to remove all disks and put the one for new system. Installing
new OS then connect previous disks. That way you don't get boot menu, just
choose boot disk through BIOS.

Rene Lamontagne wrote:

> When I installed Win 10TP I left my main Win8.1 SSD drive connected and
> installed to a seperate SSD.
> Now when the system is booting it gives me the option of using Win8.1 or
> Win10TP, no mucking in bios or F12 needed.
>
> Regards, Rene
>

"HS" escreveu na mensagem
...

Hi Rene

I did the same as you at first with a menu of booting choice if I kept
win 8 disk as boot option 1

How would I get UBUNTU on the menu afterwards?

In fact if I am not careful Grub would get installed on win 8 hard
disk and I would see an ugly Grub menu.

MUCKING around with the bios is something i have enjoyed and has been
educational :-)

I only do it at home in my spare time and NOT in my office which has
windows 8.1 on my computer, Win 7 on my adminstrative assistants computer
and Windows xp on my lab equipment where I make my living :-)

Something like this equipment.

http://www.mfimedical.com/teca-synergy-t2x-emg.html

I am going to retire in 3 years so will continue to use this win xp based
dinosaur
which the manufacturer has "retired" (means no spare parts if needed. Only
available
on second hand resale market)..

HS

[...winston‫]

HS wrote:
>
>
> ...winston‫ wrote:
>> HS wrote:
>>> I use a desktop.
>>>
>>> I purchased a low cost 64 gig ssd and have installed win 10 on it.
>>>
>>> It eliminates lots of hassle.
>>>
>>> I do have to go to the bios to change disk priorities before
>>> installation
>>> and change back afterwards.
>>>
>>> With my Gigabyte motherboard F12 give me the boot options
>>>
>>> I also have another low cost SSD with Ubuntu installed on it.
>>>
>>> I play with Ubuntu when bored.
>>>
>>> HS
>> Why do you have to switch back after shutting W10TP down ?
>>
>> Did you install W10TP to the 64GB SSD while your original drive was
>> still connected ?
>
> Yes.
>
> I changed the boot option in Bios to Sandisk before inserting the DVD
>
>
>> - If you didn't is your bios not capable of selecting an alternate
>> bootable o/s device without changing the default bios setup ?
>>
>
> After the installation I have reset my bios to boot into win 8.1 after
> installing 10
>
> If I want to test win 10 I will press F12 when booting and it gives me
> the boot choices
> DVD uefi
> DVD
> Disk x - - 120 gig samsung (where I got win 8 installed)
> Disk xx 64 gig sandisk ( win 10)
> Disk xxx 64 gig adata (Ubuntu)
> Disk xxxx 500 gig (my backup disk)
>
> I am not using UEFI
>
> HS.

So 'changing back' meant after using F12 provided device selection to
run W10TP a restart (or shutdown/restart) still allows the Bios to boot
to its default o/s - 8.1 rather than requiring the user to physically
'change' anything to boot 8.1

--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

[...winston‫]

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
> On 11/8/2014 3:55 PM, HS wrote:
>>
>>
>> ...winston‫ wrote:
>>> HS wrote:
>>>> I use a desktop.
>>>>
>>>> I purchased a low cost 64 gig ssd and have installed win 10 on it.
>>>>
>>>> It eliminates lots of hassle.
>>>>
>>>> I do have to go to the bios to change disk priorities before
>>>> installation
>>>> and change back afterwards.
>>>>
>>>> With my Gigabyte motherboard F12 give me the boot options
>>>>
>>>> I also have another low cost SSD with Ubuntu installed on it.
>>>>
>>>> I play with Ubuntu when bored.
>>>>
>>>> HS
>>> Why do you have to switch back after shutting W10TP down ?
>>>
>>> Did you install W10TP to the 64GB SSD while your original drive was
>>> still connected ?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> I changed the boot option in Bios to Sandisk before inserting the DVD
>>
>>
>>> - If you didn't is your bios not capable of selecting an alternate
>>> bootable o/s device without changing the default bios setup ?
>>>
>>
>> After the installation I have reset my bios to boot into win 8.1 after
>> installing 10
>>
>> If I want to test win 10 I will press F12 when booting and it gives me
>> the boot choices
>> DVD uefi
>> DVD
>> Disk x - - 120 gig samsung (where I got win 8 installed)
>> Disk xx 64 gig sandisk ( win 10)
>> Disk xxx 64 gig adata (Ubuntu)
>> Disk xxxx 500 gig (my backup disk)
>>
>> I am not using UEFI
>>
>> HS.
>
> When I installed Win 10TP I left my main Win8.1 SSD drive connected and
> installed to a seperate SSD.
> Now when the system is booting it gives me the option of using Win8.1 or
> Win10TP, no mucking in bios or F12 needed.
>
> Regards, Rene
>
That's the traditional route since a later version installed Windows o/s
(when a prior Windows o/s exists) will update the System Volume files
and provide a dual boot choice for either Windows o/s. The System
Volume (boot manager files) then passes control to the selected Boot
Volume (operating system files).

Some folks prefer to keep the two o/s unique by disconnecting the
earlier Windows o/s disk and then installing the later o/s to a separate
disk - this ensures that each o/s device (disk) has its own unique
System and Boot Volume.


--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"...winston‫" > wrote in message
...
> HS wrote:
>>
>>
>> ...winston‫ wrote:
>>> HS wrote:
>>>> I use a desktop.
>>>>
>>>> I purchased a low cost 64 gig ssd and have installed win 10 on it.
>>>>
>>>> It eliminates lots of hassle.
>>>>
>>>> I do have to go to the bios to change disk priorities before
>>>> installation
>>>> and change back afterwards.
>>>>
>>>> With my Gigabyte motherboard F12 give me the boot options
>>>>
>>>> I also have another low cost SSD with Ubuntu installed on it.
>>>>
>>>> I play with Ubuntu when bored.
>>>>
>>>> HS
>>> Why do you have to switch back after shutting W10TP down ?
>>>
>>> Did you install W10TP to the 64GB SSD while your original drive was
>>> still connected ?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> I changed the boot option in Bios to Sandisk before inserting the DVD
>>
>>
>>> - If you didn't is your bios not capable of selecting an alternate
>>> bootable o/s device without changing the default bios setup ?
>>>
>>
>> After the installation I have reset my bios to boot into win 8.1 after
>> installing 10
>>
>> If I want to test win 10 I will press F12 when booting and it gives me
>> the boot choices
>> DVD uefi
>> DVD
>> Disk x - - 120 gig samsung (where I got win 8 installed)
>> Disk xx 64 gig sandisk ( win 10)
>> Disk xxx 64 gig adata (Ubuntu)
>> Disk xxxx 500 gig (my backup disk)
>>
>> I am not using UEFI
>>
>> HS.
>
> So 'changing back' meant after using F12 provided device selection to run
> W10TP a restart (or shutdown/restart) still allows the Bios to boot to its
> default o/s - 8.1 rather than requiring the user to physically 'change'
> anything to boot 8.1
>
Wouldn't Fast Startup have to be disabled to do this? On my laptop with
Win8.1, I have to either disable Fast Startup, or boot to Win8.1 and then
reboot in order to have the F12 option of picking another boot device (also
non-UEFI). If I cold boot, the F12 and F8 or SHFT+F8 are all disabled,
unless Fast Startup is disabled.

I haven't looked yet, but is the method for disabling Fast Startup in WinTP
the same as in Win8.1? The laptop I was going to use for testing is a little
too old for WinTP, and the video driver keeps crashing it. Gateway has
nothing newer than Win7 drivers for it, and even trying Compatibility mode
for installation doesn't get it :-( My Acer is a much newer laptop with
Win8.1 drivers, and I have a spare drive I could put in for a test
installation, but I would prefer to NOT have my primary drive in place when
installing WinTP.
--
SC Tom