Where could I download Windows 10 Pro?

[Larry Cooper[_2_]]

I've heard it's better to download 9888 version and install than updating inside
system.
If we download fresh version, at least we can see the download percentage and
time to finish.

[Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]]

On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 15:17:52 -0000, "Larry Cooper" >
wrote:

> I've heard it's better to download 9888 version and install than updating inside
> system.
> If we download fresh version, at least we can see the download percentage and
> time to finish.


Be aware that Windows 10 hasn't been released yet. The only thing
available is a test version of it, and as far as I'm concerned, unless
you have a spare computer to install it on and enjoy testing, finding,
and reporting problems to Microsoft, running a test version is just
looking for trouble.

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Larry Cooper" > wrote in message
...
> I've heard it's better to download 9888 version and install than updating
> inside system.
> If we download fresh version, at least we can see the download percentage
> and time to finish.

Here:
<http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso>

Near as I can tell, Pro has not been released yet, and I can't tell you for
certain what build you'll get upon downloading. I would hope that Microsoft
would have their servers updated to the latest build, but who knows :-)
--
SC Tom

[John Szalay]

"SC Tom" > wrote in :

>
>
> "Larry Cooper" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I've heard it's better to download 9888 version and install than
>> updating inside system.
>> If we download fresh version, at least we can see the download
>> percentage and time to finish.
>
> Here:
> <http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso>
>
> Near as I can tell, Pro has not been released yet, and I can't tell
> you for certain what build you'll get upon downloading. I would hope
> that Microsoft would have their servers updated to the latest build,
> but who knows :-)


build 9841 as of Dec 8,
but once installed easy upgrade to Build 9879

[philo [_3_]]

On 12/08/2014 11:09 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 15:17:52 -0000, "Larry Cooper" >
> wrote:
>
>> I've heard it's better to download 9888 version and install than updating inside
>> system.
>> If we download fresh version, at least we can see the download percentage and
>> time to finish.
>
>
> Be aware that Windows 10 hasn't been released yet. The only thing
> available is a test version of it, and as far as I'm concerned, unless
> you have a spare computer to install it on and enjoy testing, finding,
> and reporting problems to Microsoft, running a test version is just
> looking for trouble.
>

I, and I think many here are running Win 10 in a Virtual Machine, a safe
way to do things.

As I post this I am upgrading version 9860 to whatever is present to
this date. I won't know the version I've got until it's installed.

[Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]]

On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:37:09 -0600, philo* > wrote:

> On 12/08/2014 11:09 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> > On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 15:17:52 -0000, "Larry Cooper" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I've heard it's better to download 9888 version and install than updating inside
> >> system.
> >> If we download fresh version, at least we can see the download percentage and
> >> time to finish.
> >
> >
> > Be aware that Windows 10 hasn't been released yet. The only thing
> > available is a test version of it, and as far as I'm concerned, unless
> > you have a spare computer to install it on and enjoy testing, finding,
> > and reporting problems to Microsoft, running a test version is just
> > looking for trouble.
> >
>
> I, and I think many here are running Win 10 in a Virtual Machine, a safe
> way to do things.


It is certainly much safer. But doing that is beyond the grasp of many
people, which is why I usually don't mention it and say only what I
said above.

[philo [_3_]]

On 12/10/2014 08:15 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:37:09 -0600, philo > wrote:
>
>> On 12/08/2014 11:09 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>>> On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 15:17:52 -0000, "Larry Cooper" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've heard it's better to download 9888 version and install than updating inside
>>>> system.
>>>> If we download fresh version, at least we can see the download percentage and
>>>> time to finish.
>>>
>>>
>>> Be aware that Windows 10 hasn't been released yet. The only thing
>>> available is a test version of it, and as far as I'm concerned, unless
>>> you have a spare computer to install it on and enjoy testing, finding,
>>> and reporting problems to Microsoft, running a test version is just
>>> looking for trouble.
>>>
>>
>> I, and I think many here are running Win 10 in a Virtual Machine, a safe
>> way to do things.
>
>
> It is certainly much safer. But doing that is beyond the grasp of many
> people, which is why I usually don't mention it and say only what I
> said above.
>



Setting up a Virtual Machine is not that difficult and I assume that
anyone who is evaluating Win10 is an experimenter and up to the
challenge of running a VM

OTOH: Though my virtual installation works pretty well, on another post
I mentioned that a "real hardware" installation does work better.

Fortunately I have dozens of spare machines but I think most people have
a greater degree of sanity that I was alloted.

[Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 16:55:24 -0600, philo* > wrote:

> On 12/10/2014 08:15 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> > On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:37:09 -0600, philo > wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/08/2014 11:09 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 15:17:52 -0000, "Larry Cooper" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I've heard it's better to download 9888 version and install than updating inside
> >>>> system.
> >>>> If we download fresh version, at least we can see the download percentage and
> >>>> time to finish.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Be aware that Windows 10 hasn't been released yet. The only thing
> >>> available is a test version of it, and as far as I'm concerned, unless
> >>> you have a spare computer to install it on and enjoy testing, finding,
> >>> and reporting problems to Microsoft, running a test version is just
> >>> looking for trouble.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I, and I think many here are running Win 10 in a Virtual Machine, a safe
> >> way to do things.
> >
> >
> > It is certainly much safer. But doing that is beyond the grasp of many
> > people, which is why I usually don't mention it and say only what I
> > said above.
> >
>
>
>
> Setting up a Virtual Machine is not that difficult


No, but...


> and I assume that
> anyone who is evaluating Win10 is an experimenter and up to the
> challenge of running a VM


.... I don't assume that at all. In fact many people run beta versions
of Windows (and other software) without even realizing that's that
what they are doing. There are many people running what they *think*
is Windows 10, without even realizing what it is. And that was the
point of my original message in this thread. It's a test version, for
evaluation and finding and reporting problems, *not* Windows 10.

Does the person I replied to realize that that's what it is? I don't
know. Some people do and some don't. But the point of my message was
to warn him, in case he's one of those who doesn't realize it.

[Larry Cooper]

"Ken Blake, MVP" escreveu na mensagem
...

.... I don't assume that at all. In fact many people run beta versions
of Windows (and other software) without even realizing that's that
what they are doing. There are many people running what they *think*
is Windows 10, without even realizing what it is. And that was the
point of my original message in this thread. It's a test version, for
evaluation and finding and reporting problems, *not* Windows 10.

Does the person I replied to realize that that's what it is? I don't
know. Some people do and some don't. But the point of my message was
to warn him, in case he's one of those who doesn't realize it.

....

Hi, I've just updated Windows version 6.4 Technical Preview to build 9879.
Many people call it Windows 10. Unless MS has another plan, that's what they
are working for. I've read there are things to improve until the final
version, which I think won't be much different from the one we are testing
now. Testers have more 4 months to play with this version. Then I don't know
if they recommend buying new hardware with new OS. Those changes mean a lot
of money to spend. My Windows 7 laptop with 8 years still works well.

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 07:15:42 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:37:09 -0600, philo* > wrote:
>
>> On 12/08/2014 11:09 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>>> On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 15:17:52 -0000, "Larry Cooper" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've heard it's better to download 9888 version and install than updating inside
>>>> system.
>>>> If we download fresh version, at least we can see the download percentage and
>>>> time to finish.
>>>
>>>
>>> Be aware that Windows 10 hasn't been released yet. The only thing
>>> available is a test version of it, and as far as I'm concerned, unless
>>> you have a spare computer to install it on and enjoy testing, finding,
>>> and reporting problems to Microsoft, running a test version is just
>>> looking for trouble.
>>>
>>
>> I, and I think many here are running Win 10 in a Virtual Machine, a safe
>> way to do things.
>
> It is certainly much safer. But doing that is beyond the grasp of many
> people, which is why I usually don't mention it and say only what I
> said above.

OTOH, I would prefer it if you let *me* decide whether it is beyond my
grasp, and I suspect I'm not alone in feeling that way.

I managed to avoid making nasty noises...it wasn't easy.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[philo [_3_]]

On 12/10/2014 07:05 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>

<snip>
>>> I, and I think many here are running Win 10 in a Virtual Machine, a safe
>>> way to do things.
>>
>> It is certainly much safer. But doing that is beyond the grasp of many
>> people, which is why I usually don't mention it and say only what I
>> said above.
>
> OTOH, I would prefer it if you let *me* decide whether it is beyond my
> grasp, and I suspect I'm not alone in feeling that way.
>
> I managed to avoid making nasty noises...it wasn't easy.
>


My point was simply that anyone who is evaluating Win10 /probably/ knows
it's a test version.


Personally I think setting up a Virtual Machine is simpler that working
with those dang Win8 tiles.

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 19:28:49 -0600, philo* wrote:

> On 12/10/2014 07:05 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>
>
> <snip>
>>>> I, and I think many here are running Win 10 in a Virtual Machine, a safe
>>>> way to do things.
>>>
>>> It is certainly much safer. But doing that is beyond the grasp of many
>>> people, which is why I usually don't mention it and say only what I
>>> said above.
>>
>> OTOH, I would prefer it if you let *me* decide whether it is beyond my
>> grasp, and I suspect I'm not alone in feeling that way.
>>
>> I managed to avoid making nasty noises...it wasn't easy.
>>
>
> My point was simply that anyone who is evaluating Win10 /probably/ knows
> it's a test version.
>
> Personally I think setting up a Virtual Machine is simpler that working
> with those dang Win8 tiles.

I was addressing Ken Blake...

In fact, I'd say I was agreeing with and reinforcing your point :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[philo [_3_]]

On 12/10/2014 07:33 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>

<snip>
>>
>> My point was simply that anyone who is evaluating Win10 /probably/ knows
>> it's a test version.
>>
>> Personally I think setting up a Virtual Machine is simpler that working
>> with those dang Win8 tiles.
>
> I was addressing Ken Blake...
>
> In fact, I'd say I was agreeing with and reinforcing your point :-)
>



Yes, I know.

[Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 00:11:20 -0000, "Larry Cooper" >
wrote:

> "Ken Blake, MVP" escreveu na mensagem
> ...
>
> ... I don't assume that at all. In fact many people run beta versions
> of Windows (and other software) without even realizing that's that
> what they are doing. There are many people running what they *think*
> is Windows 10, without even realizing what it is. And that was the
> point of my original message in this thread. It's a test version, for
> evaluation and finding and reporting problems, *not* Windows 10.
>
> Does the person I replied to realize that that's what it is? I don't
> know. Some people do and some don't. But the point of my message was
> to warn him, in case he's one of those who doesn't realize it.
>
> ...
>
> Hi, I've just updated Windows version 6.4 Technical Preview to build 9879.
> Many people call it Windows 10.



Yes, I know. They are wrong, as I was trying to point out.

Are you running this in a virtual machine? Is this your main machine,
the one containing your data and major applications?

[Brian Gregory]

On 09/12/2014 16:37, John Szalay wrote:
>
> build 9841 as of Dec 8,
> but once installed easy upgrade to Build 9879
>

Not as easy as one might hope. It's another few GB to download and quite
a slow process for it to upgrade itself.

--

Brian Gregory (in the UK).
To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address.

[Larry Cooper]

"Ken Blake, MVP" escreveu na mensagem
...

"Are you running this in a virtual machine? Is this your main machine,
the one containing your data and major applications?"

....

Yes, I'm running Win10TP in virtual machine. Guess you want to know if Win10TP
could damage my system. I've some data and software in this machine. I think
virtual machine is a safe way to test second system. In this case, when Win10TP
comes to end, I'll just delete guest system file.

---
I'm seeing your nerd face through webcam

[Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]]

On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 22:38:55 -0000, "Larry Cooper" >
wrote:

> "Ken Blake, MVP" escreveu na mensagem
> ...
>
> "Are you running this in a virtual machine? Is this your main machine,
> the one containing your data and major applications?"
>
> ...
>
> Yes, I'm running Win10TP in virtual machine. Guess you want to know if Win10TP
> could damage my system. I've some data and software in this machine. I think
> virtual machine is a safe way to test second system.


Good! Yes, it's safe.