Win7 Upgrade Consideration?

[[email protected]]

Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).

Thanks
charliec

[philo]

On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>
> Thanks
> charliec
>


I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.

If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.

Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.

[philo]

On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>
> Thanks
> charliec
>


I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.

If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.

Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.

[[email protected]]

>On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:28:11 -0600, philo > wrote:

>On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>
>> Thanks
>> charliec
>>
>
>
>I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>
>If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>
>Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.

Thanks for the reply. I'm a Win7 User, not Win8, so was looking more for
comparison to Win7. I read earlier that MS decided to retain the Win7 GUI in
Win10, which is great! But, was wondering what advancements were being offered
to prompt Win7 users to moved when Win10 is released.

But, again, thanks for your reply.

[[email protected]]

>On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:28:11 -0600, philo > wrote:

>On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>
>> Thanks
>> charliec
>>
>
>
>I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>
>If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>
>Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.

Thanks for the reply. I'm a Win7 User, not Win8, so was looking more for
comparison to Win7. I read earlier that MS decided to retain the Win7 GUI in
Win10, which is great! But, was wondering what advancements were being offered
to prompt Win7 users to moved when Win10 is released.

But, again, thanks for your reply.

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:55:11 -0800, wrote:

>>On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:28:11 -0600, philo > wrote:
>
>>On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
>>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
>>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> charliec
>>>
>>
>>
>>I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>>
>>If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>>classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>>
>>Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>
> Thanks for the reply. I'm a Win7 User, not Win8, so was looking more for
> comparison to Win7. I read earlier that MS decided to retain the Win7 GUI in
> Win10, which is great! But, was wondering what advancements were being offered
> to prompt Win7 users to moved when Win10 is released.
>
> But, again, thanks for your reply.

Note that philo said "Since *Win7* is still supported...".

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:55:11 -0800, wrote:

>>On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:28:11 -0600, philo > wrote:
>
>>On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
>>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
>>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> charliec
>>>
>>
>>
>>I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>>
>>If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>>classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>>
>>Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>
> Thanks for the reply. I'm a Win7 User, not Win8, so was looking more for
> comparison to Win7. I read earlier that MS decided to retain the Win7 GUI in
> Win10, which is great! But, was wondering what advancements were being offered
> to prompt Win7 users to moved when Win10 is released.
>
> But, again, thanks for your reply.

Note that philo said "Since *Win7* is still supported...".

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Tommy]

"Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:55:11 -0800, wrote:
>
>>>On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:28:11 -0600, philo > wrote:
>>

>>>
>>>Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>>
>> Thanks for the reply. I'm a Win7 User, not Win8, so was looking more for
>> comparison to Win7. I read earlier that MS decided to retain the Win7
>> GUI in
>> Win10, which is great! But, was wondering what advancements were being
>> offered
>> to prompt Win7 users to moved when Win10 is released.
>>
>> But, again, thanks for your reply.
>
> Note that philo said "Since *Win7* is still supported...".


Just as a matter of interest I upgraded* (if thats the word) to the new 10
from 7 - worked grand I have to say...

But I blue screened it myself. Thats a hobby of mine, stressing boxes, its
fine now cos I actually own the win7 disc which I bought during a special on
a Software for Students deal

This was a 3yr old box might even be 4 yr old, 3gig ram, dual CPU E2180
@2ghz

OK there was nothing else much running and I didn't have time to stuff the
registry with add and remove shtuff :-)

When 10 is a Final Release I think I might go for it - if I don't go Apple
instead :-)

Cheers
Tommy

[Tommy]

"Gene E. Bloch" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:55:11 -0800, wrote:
>
>>>On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:28:11 -0600, philo > wrote:
>>

>>>
>>>Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>>
>> Thanks for the reply. I'm a Win7 User, not Win8, so was looking more for
>> comparison to Win7. I read earlier that MS decided to retain the Win7
>> GUI in
>> Win10, which is great! But, was wondering what advancements were being
>> offered
>> to prompt Win7 users to moved when Win10 is released.
>>
>> But, again, thanks for your reply.
>
> Note that philo said "Since *Win7* is still supported...".


Just as a matter of interest I upgraded* (if thats the word) to the new 10
from 7 - worked grand I have to say...

But I blue screened it myself. Thats a hobby of mine, stressing boxes, its
fine now cos I actually own the win7 disc which I bought during a special on
a Software for Students deal

This was a 3yr old box might even be 4 yr old, 3gig ram, dual CPU E2180
@2ghz

OK there was nothing else much running and I didn't have time to stuff the
registry with add and remove shtuff :-)

When 10 is a Final Release I think I might go for it - if I don't go Apple
instead :-)

Cheers
Tommy

[Paul]

wrote:
> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>
> Thanks
> charliec

If you have spare hard drives, you can test the Windows 10 Preview
for yourself.

It's the blue part of this photo. The live tile part on the
right portion of the Menu, can be removed, one tile at a time.
The shutdown icon, is the tiny thing near the top center of the
menu.

http://blogs.vmware.com/workstation/files/2014/10/Win10-1024x738.png

Paul

[Paul]

wrote:
> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>
> Thanks
> charliec

If you have spare hard drives, you can test the Windows 10 Preview
for yourself.

It's the blue part of this photo. The live tile part on the
right portion of the Menu, can be removed, one tile at a time.
The shutdown icon, is the tiny thing near the top center of the
menu.

http://blogs.vmware.com/workstation/files/2014/10/Win10-1024x738.png

Paul

[philo]

On 01/20/2015 05:57 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:55:11 -0800, wrote:
>
>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:28:11 -0600, philo > wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>>>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
>>>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
>>>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> charliec
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>>>
>>> If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>>> classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>>>
>>> Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>>
>> Thanks for the reply. I'm a Win7 User, not Win8, so was looking more for
>> comparison to Win7. I read earlier that MS decided to retain the Win7 GUI in
>> Win10, which is great! But, was wondering what advancements were being offered
>> to prompt Win7 users to moved when Win10 is released.
>>
>> But, again, thanks for your reply.
>
> Note that philo said "Since *Win7* is still supported...".
>



The only reason I've ever upgraded or changed operating systems is:


1) Lack of support

2) The new OS will do something better



Though my main operating system now is Linux...I still do use Windows
from time to time...and Win7 does absolutely everything I need so do not
use Win8 or Win10 other than for testing purposes.

[philo]

On 01/20/2015 05:57 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:55:11 -0800, wrote:
>
>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:28:11 -0600, philo > wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>>>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
>>>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
>>>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> charliec
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>>>
>>> If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>>> classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>>>
>>> Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>>
>> Thanks for the reply. I'm a Win7 User, not Win8, so was looking more for
>> comparison to Win7. I read earlier that MS decided to retain the Win7 GUI in
>> Win10, which is great! But, was wondering what advancements were being offered
>> to prompt Win7 users to moved when Win10 is released.
>>
>> But, again, thanks for your reply.
>
> Note that philo said "Since *Win7* is still supported...".
>



The only reason I've ever upgraded or changed operating systems is:


1) Lack of support

2) The new OS will do something better



Though my main operating system now is Linux...I still do use Windows
from time to time...and Win7 does absolutely everything I need so do not
use Win8 or Win10 other than for testing purposes.

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:25:52 -0600, philo wrote:

> On 01/20/2015 05:57 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:55:11 -0800, wrote:
>>
>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:28:11 -0600, philo > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>>>>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
>>>>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
>>>>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> charliec
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>>>>
>>>> If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>>>> classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>>>>
>>>> Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply. I'm a Win7 User, not Win8, so was looking more for
>>> comparison to Win7. I read earlier that MS decided to retain the Win7 GUI in
>>> Win10, which is great! But, was wondering what advancements were being offered
>>> to prompt Win7 users to moved when Win10 is released.
>>>
>>> But, again, thanks for your reply.
>>
>> Note that philo said "Since *Win7* is still supported...".
>>
>
> The only reason I've ever upgraded or changed operating systems is:
>
> 1) Lack of support
>
> 2) The new OS will do something better
>
> Though my main operating system now is Linux...I still do use Windows
> from time to time...and Win7 does absolutely everything I need so do not
> use Win8 or Win10 other than for testing purposes.

The OP replied to you with "I'm a Win7 User, not Win8...", so I was just
pointing out to the OP that you had explicitly recognized that he has
Win7.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Gene E. Bloch[_2_]]

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:25:52 -0600, philo wrote:

> On 01/20/2015 05:57 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:55:11 -0800, wrote:
>>
>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:28:11 -0600, philo > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>>>>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
>>>>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
>>>>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> charliec
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>>>>
>>>> If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>>>> classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>>>>
>>>> Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply. I'm a Win7 User, not Win8, so was looking more for
>>> comparison to Win7. I read earlier that MS decided to retain the Win7 GUI in
>>> Win10, which is great! But, was wondering what advancements were being offered
>>> to prompt Win7 users to moved when Win10 is released.
>>>
>>> But, again, thanks for your reply.
>>
>> Note that philo said "Since *Win7* is still supported...".
>>
>
> The only reason I've ever upgraded or changed operating systems is:
>
> 1) Lack of support
>
> 2) The new OS will do something better
>
> Though my main operating system now is Linux...I still do use Windows
> from time to time...and Win7 does absolutely everything I need so do not
> use Win8 or Win10 other than for testing purposes.

The OP replied to you with "I'm a Win7 User, not Win8...", so I was just
pointing out to the OP that you had explicitly recognized that he has
Win7.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[philo]

On 01/20/2015 07:52 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:25:52 -0600, philo wrote:
>
>> On 01/20/2015 05:57 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:55:11 -0800, wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:28:11 -0600, philo > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
>>>>>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
>>>>>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> charliec
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>>>>> classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the reply. I'm a Win7 User, not Win8, so was looking more for
>>>> comparison to Win7. I read earlier that MS decided to retain the Win7 GUI in
>>>> Win10, which is great! But, was wondering what advancements were being offered
>>>> to prompt Win7 users to moved when Win10 is released.
>>>>
>>>> But, again, thanks for your reply.
>>>
>>> Note that philo said "Since *Win7* is still supported...".
>>>
>>
>> The only reason I've ever upgraded or changed operating systems is:
>>
>> 1) Lack of support
>>
>> 2) The new OS will do something better
>>
>> Though my main operating system now is Linux...I still do use Windows
>> from time to time...and Win7 does absolutely everything I need so do not
>> use Win8 or Win10 other than for testing purposes.
>
> The OP replied to you with "I'm a Win7 User, not Win8...", so I was just
> pointing out to the OP that you had explicitly recognized that he has
> Win7.
>



Yes, and I don't know what he expects to gain by going with Win 10

[philo]

On 01/20/2015 07:52 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:25:52 -0600, philo wrote:
>
>> On 01/20/2015 05:57 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:55:11 -0800, wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:28:11 -0600, philo > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
>>>>>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
>>>>>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> charliec
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>>>>> classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the reply. I'm a Win7 User, not Win8, so was looking more for
>>>> comparison to Win7. I read earlier that MS decided to retain the Win7 GUI in
>>>> Win10, which is great! But, was wondering what advancements were being offered
>>>> to prompt Win7 users to moved when Win10 is released.
>>>>
>>>> But, again, thanks for your reply.
>>>
>>> Note that philo said "Since *Win7* is still supported...".
>>>
>>
>> The only reason I've ever upgraded or changed operating systems is:
>>
>> 1) Lack of support
>>
>> 2) The new OS will do something better
>>
>> Though my main operating system now is Linux...I still do use Windows
>> from time to time...and Win7 does absolutely everything I need so do not
>> use Win8 or Win10 other than for testing purposes.
>
> The OP replied to you with "I'm a Win7 User, not Win8...", so I was just
> pointing out to the OP that you had explicitly recognized that he has
> Win7.
>



Yes, and I don't know what he expects to gain by going with Win 10

[Maurice Helwig]

On 21/01/2015 8:56 AM, wrote:
> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>
> Thanks
> charliec
>
I have win 7 pro and it is supported until 2020
Win 10 looks ugly and feels ugly -- still has the lego blocks -- ribbon
menus etc.

It is far to early to move from a good OS to a new unproven one.
Businesses are only now slowly moving to win 7.

I have only just got the free version of Avast Antivirus to install on
Win 10 (the previous two attempts failed) and it tells me that I have a
"Suspicious hidden object (Rootkit) on the system --

SVC: IpFilterDriver >C:\.....\ipfltdrv.sys win64:Evo-Gen [Susp]

Fortunately win 10 is on a separate computer and on a separate Drive
from everything else.

I really do not know what to believe -- Avast with a false positive, as
it is new to win 10 -- or Win 10 with a genuine virus, or one put there
by Microsoft???????

It is all too new to even think about moving to win 10 yet.

Let them all sort out the problems first.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Maurice Helwig
~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Maurice Helwig]

On 21/01/2015 8:56 AM, wrote:
> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>
> Thanks
> charliec
>
I have win 7 pro and it is supported until 2020
Win 10 looks ugly and feels ugly -- still has the lego blocks -- ribbon
menus etc.

It is far to early to move from a good OS to a new unproven one.
Businesses are only now slowly moving to win 7.

I have only just got the free version of Avast Antivirus to install on
Win 10 (the previous two attempts failed) and it tells me that I have a
"Suspicious hidden object (Rootkit) on the system --

SVC: IpFilterDriver >C:\.....\ipfltdrv.sys win64:Evo-Gen [Susp]

Fortunately win 10 is on a separate computer and on a separate Drive
from everything else.

I really do not know what to believe -- Avast with a false positive, as
it is new to win 10 -- or Win 10 with a genuine virus, or one put there
by Microsoft???????

It is all too new to even think about moving to win 10 yet.

Let them all sort out the problems first.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Maurice Helwig
~~~~~~~~~~~~

[VanguardLH[_2_]]

philo wrote:

> On 01/20/2015 07:52 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:25:52 -0600, philo wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/20/2015 05:57 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:55:11 -0800, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:28:11 -0600, philo > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
>>>>>>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
>>>>>>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> charliec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>>>>>> classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the reply. I'm a Win7 User, not Win8, so was looking more for
>>>>> comparison to Win7. I read earlier that MS decided to retain the Win7 GUI in
>>>>> Win10, which is great! But, was wondering what advancements were being offered
>>>>> to prompt Win7 users to moved when Win10 is released.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, again, thanks for your reply.
>>>>
>>>> Note that philo said "Since *Win7* is still supported...".
>>>>
>>>
>>> The only reason I've ever upgraded or changed operating systems is:
>>>
>>> 1) Lack of support
>>>
>>> 2) The new OS will do something better
>>>
>>> Though my main operating system now is Linux...I still do use Windows
>>> from time to time...and Win7 does absolutely everything I need so do not
>>> use Win8 or Win10 other than for testing purposes.
>>
>> The OP replied to you with "I'm a Win7 User, not Win8...", so I was just
>> pointing out to the OP that you had explicitly recognized that he has
>> Win7.
>>
>
> Yes, and I don't know what he expects to gain by going with Win 10

Rare few end users compile a list of why they think they need to migrate
to a new version of any OS. If they were to compile such a list, the
only item on it that they go by is "It's new".

[VanguardLH[_2_]]

philo wrote:

> On 01/20/2015 07:52 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:25:52 -0600, philo wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/20/2015 05:57 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:55:11 -0800, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:28:11 -0600, philo > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
>>>>>>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
>>>>>>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> charliec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>>>>>> classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the reply. I'm a Win7 User, not Win8, so was looking more for
>>>>> comparison to Win7. I read earlier that MS decided to retain the Win7 GUI in
>>>>> Win10, which is great! But, was wondering what advancements were being offered
>>>>> to prompt Win7 users to moved when Win10 is released.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, again, thanks for your reply.
>>>>
>>>> Note that philo said "Since *Win7* is still supported...".
>>>>
>>>
>>> The only reason I've ever upgraded or changed operating systems is:
>>>
>>> 1) Lack of support
>>>
>>> 2) The new OS will do something better
>>>
>>> Though my main operating system now is Linux...I still do use Windows
>>> from time to time...and Win7 does absolutely everything I need so do not
>>> use Win8 or Win10 other than for testing purposes.
>>
>> The OP replied to you with "I'm a Win7 User, not Win8...", so I was just
>> pointing out to the OP that you had explicitly recognized that he has
>> Win7.
>>
>
> Yes, and I don't know what he expects to gain by going with Win 10

Rare few end users compile a list of why they think they need to migrate
to a new version of any OS. If they were to compile such a list, the
only item on it that they go by is "It's new".

[VanguardLH[_2_]]

philo wrote:

> The only reason I've ever upgraded or changed operating systems is:
>
> 1) Lack of support
>
> 2) The new OS will do something better

An additional reason:

3) An application you want or need to use demands a particular OS
version as a minimal requirement.

So far, for me, this means games that require a later version of some
library included in Windows, like supporting technology that provides a
required function to the game. For example, back when I was still using
Windows XP, there were games that I was interested in but demanded a
later version of DirectX. My response: put off those games until
whenever I later moved to Windows 7 (and skipped Vista). Games aren't
critical to my choice of OS (but is critical to avid rabid gamers).

Applications can require specific support from an OS which is only
available on and after some version of that OS. Lack of support would
never be a reason for me to leave an OS. I never get any support from
Microsoft on any of their products. Lack of updates is insufficient
reason to change. Just because a product is no longer support does not
mean it is no longer usable. I'm still using 40tude Dialog to post here
and its author abandoned that back around 2005. On occasion, I still
use SamSpade (instead of Linx) that died back in 2002 to give me a
text-only web browser or to check headers.

The "something better" too often is too little bang-for-the-buck for me
to waste my money. Often the enhancements are available from 3rd party
software developers and many times they are free. What major
functionality or technology was added to Windows 10 that cannot be
accomplished with 3rd party software added to Windows 7 or 8? GUI
changes do not constitute major functionality change, and 3rd party
software exists to allow choices in the GUI. Painting your car a
different color doesn't change what is your car. Do you "really" need
Internet Explorer 12 with its UI changes and further minimalization, or
would using something else (Firefox, Google Chrome, their variants, or
others) provide you with whatever IE12 would add, and more, above IE10
or IE11? I'm still waiting to hear about some big bang gotta have
wowser evolutionary feature in Windows 10. Changed GUI and enhanced
search engine, is that it? What happened to the databased file system
(WinFS)? NTFS can't be the end-all be-all file system. Oh wow, a new
Task View button, big deal. Oooh, they added multiple virtual desktops
to reduce clutter on any one of them; however, I've been using Dexpot
(and for free) for a long time now in Windows 7. What new features
Microsoft adds is often already available and often for quite some time
from other software vendors. Does Win10 have something like Infinite
Screen where the display is a viewer into a larger screen (for those
that want all windows on one desktop)? I was hoping Microsoft would
come up with something that isn't already available from 3rd party
software much of which is free. Oh look, an enhanced Snap mode. Yawn.
Nope, just belated fizz. Where's that big gotta-have thing in Win10?
Where's that "something better" that hasn't already been around before?
I'm still waiting to be wowed.

Nope, only a program that I really want or am required to use that
demands a minimal version of Windows is the only reason for me (and lots
of others) to upgrade. If it weren't that I got Windows 7 Home Edition
for free (as an OEM license on a broke computer that I got for free and
fixed), I'd still be back on Windows XP along with all those other
enduring XP users. Now that I'm on Windows7, I won't even bother
considering leaving it until sometime - and probably long after -
extended support ends (2022) UNLESS there some program I really want or
must use that demands a later version of Windows (and then I'll get the
latest at that time and skip the intervening versions - so Microsoft
might have Windows 11 or 12 out by then).

I don't choose an OS and then go looking for apps that provide solutions
to my tasks. I see what apps will meet my criteria and then see what OS
they will run on. I choose the content before deciding on the player.
For some apps, Linux is the smarter choice. For others, Windows is the
smarter (and perhaps only) choice.

Unlike Microsoft using Windows 7 to cover their debacle with Vista, I
don't think Windows 10 is going to erase the Windows 8 debacle.

[VanguardLH[_2_]]

philo wrote:

> The only reason I've ever upgraded or changed operating systems is:
>
> 1) Lack of support
>
> 2) The new OS will do something better

An additional reason:

3) An application you want or need to use demands a particular OS
version as a minimal requirement.

So far, for me, this means games that require a later version of some
library included in Windows, like supporting technology that provides a
required function to the game. For example, back when I was still using
Windows XP, there were games that I was interested in but demanded a
later version of DirectX. My response: put off those games until
whenever I later moved to Windows 7 (and skipped Vista). Games aren't
critical to my choice of OS (but is critical to avid rabid gamers).

Applications can require specific support from an OS which is only
available on and after some version of that OS. Lack of support would
never be a reason for me to leave an OS. I never get any support from
Microsoft on any of their products. Lack of updates is insufficient
reason to change. Just because a product is no longer support does not
mean it is no longer usable. I'm still using 40tude Dialog to post here
and its author abandoned that back around 2005. On occasion, I still
use SamSpade (instead of Linx) that died back in 2002 to give me a
text-only web browser or to check headers.

The "something better" too often is too little bang-for-the-buck for me
to waste my money. Often the enhancements are available from 3rd party
software developers and many times they are free. What major
functionality or technology was added to Windows 10 that cannot be
accomplished with 3rd party software added to Windows 7 or 8? GUI
changes do not constitute major functionality change, and 3rd party
software exists to allow choices in the GUI. Painting your car a
different color doesn't change what is your car. Do you "really" need
Internet Explorer 12 with its UI changes and further minimalization, or
would using something else (Firefox, Google Chrome, their variants, or
others) provide you with whatever IE12 would add, and more, above IE10
or IE11? I'm still waiting to hear about some big bang gotta have
wowser evolutionary feature in Windows 10. Changed GUI and enhanced
search engine, is that it? What happened to the databased file system
(WinFS)? NTFS can't be the end-all be-all file system. Oh wow, a new
Task View button, big deal. Oooh, they added multiple virtual desktops
to reduce clutter on any one of them; however, I've been using Dexpot
(and for free) for a long time now in Windows 7. What new features
Microsoft adds is often already available and often for quite some time
from other software vendors. Does Win10 have something like Infinite
Screen where the display is a viewer into a larger screen (for those
that want all windows on one desktop)? I was hoping Microsoft would
come up with something that isn't already available from 3rd party
software much of which is free. Oh look, an enhanced Snap mode. Yawn.
Nope, just belated fizz. Where's that big gotta-have thing in Win10?
Where's that "something better" that hasn't already been around before?
I'm still waiting to be wowed.

Nope, only a program that I really want or am required to use that
demands a minimal version of Windows is the only reason for me (and lots
of others) to upgrade. If it weren't that I got Windows 7 Home Edition
for free (as an OEM license on a broke computer that I got for free and
fixed), I'd still be back on Windows XP along with all those other
enduring XP users. Now that I'm on Windows7, I won't even bother
considering leaving it until sometime - and probably long after -
extended support ends (2022) UNLESS there some program I really want or
must use that demands a later version of Windows (and then I'll get the
latest at that time and skip the intervening versions - so Microsoft
might have Windows 11 or 12 out by then).

I don't choose an OS and then go looking for apps that provide solutions
to my tasks. I see what apps will meet my criteria and then see what OS
they will run on. I choose the content before deciding on the player.
For some apps, Linux is the smarter choice. For others, Windows is the
smarter (and perhaps only) choice.

Unlike Microsoft using Windows 7 to cover their debacle with Vista, I
don't think Windows 10 is going to erase the Windows 8 debacle.

[Bob Henson[_2_]]

On 20/01/2015 11:28 pm, philo wrote:
> On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>
>> Thanks
>> charliec
>>
>
>
> I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>
> If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
> classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>

Not in any usable form - you still need Classic Shell or similar.

> Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>

Now there we agree wholeheartedly. I don't have a phone or a spare
tablet to test it on - (and it could be quite good on a touch screen
device) but Windows 10 has no advantages over Windows 7 whatever on a
desktop or laptop, and quite a few disadvantages. Let's just hope the
final version has some big changes.

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

Critic - a person who knows the way, but can't drive the car. - Kenneth
Tynan

[Bob Henson[_2_]]

On 20/01/2015 11:28 pm, philo wrote:
> On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>
>> Thanks
>> charliec
>>
>
>
> I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>
> If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
> classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>

Not in any usable form - you still need Classic Shell or similar.

> Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>

Now there we agree wholeheartedly. I don't have a phone or a spare
tablet to test it on - (and it could be quite good on a touch screen
device) but Windows 10 has no advantages over Windows 7 whatever on a
desktop or laptop, and quite a few disadvantages. Let's just hope the
final version has some big changes.

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

Critic - a person who knows the way, but can't drive the car. - Kenneth
Tynan

[philo]

On 01/20/2015 10:54 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
>


<snip>
>>>>
>>>> The only reason I've ever upgraded or changed operating systems is:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Lack of support
>>>>
>>>> 2) The new OS will do something better
>>>>
>>>> Though my main operating system now is Linux...I still do use Windows
>>>> from time to time...and Win7 does absolutely everything I need so do not
>>>> use Win8 or Win10 other than for testing purposes.
>>>
>>> The OP replied to you with "I'm a Win7 User, not Win8...", so I was just
>>> pointing out to the OP that you had explicitly recognized that he has
>>> Win7.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, and I don't know what he expects to gain by going with Win 10
>
> Rare few end users compile a list of why they think they need to migrate
> to a new version of any OS. If they were to compile such a list, the
> only item on it that they go by is "It's new".
>



Yep...although *one* of my friends likes those Win8 tiles

[philo]

On 01/20/2015 10:54 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
>


<snip>
>>>>
>>>> The only reason I've ever upgraded or changed operating systems is:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Lack of support
>>>>
>>>> 2) The new OS will do something better
>>>>
>>>> Though my main operating system now is Linux...I still do use Windows
>>>> from time to time...and Win7 does absolutely everything I need so do not
>>>> use Win8 or Win10 other than for testing purposes.
>>>
>>> The OP replied to you with "I'm a Win7 User, not Win8...", so I was just
>>> pointing out to the OP that you had explicitly recognized that he has
>>> Win7.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, and I don't know what he expects to gain by going with Win 10
>
> Rare few end users compile a list of why they think they need to migrate
> to a new version of any OS. If they were to compile such a list, the
> only item on it that they go by is "It's new".
>



Yep...although *one* of my friends likes those Win8 tiles

[philo]

On 01/20/2015 10:54 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
> philo wrote:
>
>> The only reason I've ever upgraded or changed operating systems is:
>>
>> 1) Lack of support
>>
>> 2) The new OS will do something better
>
> An additional reason:
>
> 3) An application you want or need to use demands a particular OS
> version as a minimal requirement.
>
> So far, for me, this means games that require a later version of some
> library included in Windows, like supporting technology that provides a
> required function to the game. For example, back when I was still using
> Windows XP, there were games that I was interested in but demanded a
> later version of DirectX. My response: put off those games until
> whenever I later moved to Windows 7 (and skipped Vista). Games aren't
> critical to my choice of OS (but is critical to avid rabid gamers).
>
> Applications can require specific support from an OS which is only
> available on and after some version of that OS. Lack of support would
> never be a reason for me to leave an OS. I never get any support from
> Microsoft on any of their products. Lack of updates is insufficient
> reason to change. Just because a product is no longer support does not
> mean it is no longer usable. I'm still using 40tude Dialog to post here
> and its author abandoned that back around 2005. On occasion, I still
> use SamSpade (instead of Linx) that died back in 2002 to give me a
> text-only web browser or to check headers.
>
> The "something better" too often is too little bang-for-the-buck for me
> to waste my money. Often the enhancements are available from 3rd party
> software developers and many times they are free. What major
> functionality or technology was added to Windows 10 that cannot be
> accomplished with 3rd party software added to Windows 7 or 8? GUI
> changes do not constitute major functionality change, and 3rd party
> software exists to allow choices in the GUI. Painting your car a
> different color doesn't change what is your car. Do you "really" need
> Internet Explorer 12 with its UI changes and further minimalization, or
> would using something else (Firefox, Google Chrome, their variants, or
> others) provide you with whatever IE12 would add, and more, above IE10
> or IE11? I'm still waiting to hear about some big bang gotta have
> wowser evolutionary feature in Windows 10. Changed GUI and enhanced
> search engine, is that it? What happened to the databased file system
> (WinFS)?

If they were going to implement WinFS I think they would have done so by now



NTFS can't be the end-all be-all file system. Oh wow, a new
> Task View button, big deal. Oooh, they added multiple virtual desktops
> to reduce clutter on any one of them; however, I've been using Dexpot
> (and for free) for a long time now in Windows 7. What new features
> Microsoft adds is often already available and often for quite some time
> from other software vendors. Does Win10 have something like Infinite
> Screen where the display is a viewer into a larger screen (for those
> that want all windows on one desktop)? I was hoping Microsoft would
> come up with something that isn't already available from 3rd party
> software much of which is free. Oh look, an enhanced Snap mode. Yawn.
> Nope, just belated fizz. Where's that big gotta-have thing in Win10?
> Where's that "something better" that hasn't already been around before?
> I'm still waiting to be wowed.
>
> Nope, only a program that I really want or am required to use that
> demands a minimal version of Windows is the only reason for me (and lots
> of others) to upgrade. If it weren't that I got Windows 7 Home Edition
> for free (as an OEM license on a broke computer that I got for free and
> fixed), I'd still be back on Windows XP along with all those other
> enduring XP users. Now that I'm on Windows7, I won't even bother
> considering leaving it until sometime - and probably long after -
> extended support ends (2022) UNLESS there some program I really want or
> must use that demands a later version of Windows (and then I'll get the
> latest at that time and skip the intervening versions - so Microsoft
> might have Windows 11 or 12 out by then).
>
> I don't choose an OS and then go looking for apps that provide solutions
> to my tasks. I see what apps will meet my criteria and then see what OS
> they will run on. I choose the content before deciding on the player.
> For some apps, Linux is the smarter choice. For others, Windows is the
> smarter (and perhaps only) choice.


I just sue what does the job best.

Mostly , I use Linux but do not hesitate to boot to Win7 if there is an
application I need to use that does not work on Linux.


I even bought a Macbook a few years back because at the time, a Lytro
would only run on OSX.




>
> Unlike Microsoft using Windows 7 to cover their debacle with Vista, I
> don't think Windows 10 is going to erase the Windows 8 debacle.
>

[philo]

On 01/20/2015 10:54 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
> philo wrote:
>
>> The only reason I've ever upgraded or changed operating systems is:
>>
>> 1) Lack of support
>>
>> 2) The new OS will do something better
>
> An additional reason:
>
> 3) An application you want or need to use demands a particular OS
> version as a minimal requirement.
>
> So far, for me, this means games that require a later version of some
> library included in Windows, like supporting technology that provides a
> required function to the game. For example, back when I was still using
> Windows XP, there were games that I was interested in but demanded a
> later version of DirectX. My response: put off those games until
> whenever I later moved to Windows 7 (and skipped Vista). Games aren't
> critical to my choice of OS (but is critical to avid rabid gamers).
>
> Applications can require specific support from an OS which is only
> available on and after some version of that OS. Lack of support would
> never be a reason for me to leave an OS. I never get any support from
> Microsoft on any of their products. Lack of updates is insufficient
> reason to change. Just because a product is no longer support does not
> mean it is no longer usable. I'm still using 40tude Dialog to post here
> and its author abandoned that back around 2005. On occasion, I still
> use SamSpade (instead of Linx) that died back in 2002 to give me a
> text-only web browser or to check headers.
>
> The "something better" too often is too little bang-for-the-buck for me
> to waste my money. Often the enhancements are available from 3rd party
> software developers and many times they are free. What major
> functionality or technology was added to Windows 10 that cannot be
> accomplished with 3rd party software added to Windows 7 or 8? GUI
> changes do not constitute major functionality change, and 3rd party
> software exists to allow choices in the GUI. Painting your car a
> different color doesn't change what is your car. Do you "really" need
> Internet Explorer 12 with its UI changes and further minimalization, or
> would using something else (Firefox, Google Chrome, their variants, or
> others) provide you with whatever IE12 would add, and more, above IE10
> or IE11? I'm still waiting to hear about some big bang gotta have
> wowser evolutionary feature in Windows 10. Changed GUI and enhanced
> search engine, is that it? What happened to the databased file system
> (WinFS)?

If they were going to implement WinFS I think they would have done so by now



NTFS can't be the end-all be-all file system. Oh wow, a new
> Task View button, big deal. Oooh, they added multiple virtual desktops
> to reduce clutter on any one of them; however, I've been using Dexpot
> (and for free) for a long time now in Windows 7. What new features
> Microsoft adds is often already available and often for quite some time
> from other software vendors. Does Win10 have something like Infinite
> Screen where the display is a viewer into a larger screen (for those
> that want all windows on one desktop)? I was hoping Microsoft would
> come up with something that isn't already available from 3rd party
> software much of which is free. Oh look, an enhanced Snap mode. Yawn.
> Nope, just belated fizz. Where's that big gotta-have thing in Win10?
> Where's that "something better" that hasn't already been around before?
> I'm still waiting to be wowed.
>
> Nope, only a program that I really want or am required to use that
> demands a minimal version of Windows is the only reason for me (and lots
> of others) to upgrade. If it weren't that I got Windows 7 Home Edition
> for free (as an OEM license on a broke computer that I got for free and
> fixed), I'd still be back on Windows XP along with all those other
> enduring XP users. Now that I'm on Windows7, I won't even bother
> considering leaving it until sometime - and probably long after -
> extended support ends (2022) UNLESS there some program I really want or
> must use that demands a later version of Windows (and then I'll get the
> latest at that time and skip the intervening versions - so Microsoft
> might have Windows 11 or 12 out by then).
>
> I don't choose an OS and then go looking for apps that provide solutions
> to my tasks. I see what apps will meet my criteria and then see what OS
> they will run on. I choose the content before deciding on the player.
> For some apps, Linux is the smarter choice. For others, Windows is the
> smarter (and perhaps only) choice.


I just sue what does the job best.

Mostly , I use Linux but do not hesitate to boot to Win7 if there is an
application I need to use that does not work on Linux.


I even bought a Macbook a few years back because at the time, a Lytro
would only run on OSX.




>
> Unlike Microsoft using Windows 7 to cover their debacle with Vista, I
> don't think Windows 10 is going to erase the Windows 8 debacle.
>

[Seth]

was thinking very hard :
> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users -
> probably done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to
> Win10).

I'm designing\planning the Win7\Win10 in-place upgrade for my 200,000
seat installation. Pretty smooth process so far. Very few apps that
trip the block\rollback function, none of the ones I've seen are
commonly used on the consumer side.

[Seth]

was thinking very hard :
> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users -
> probably done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to
> Win10).

I'm designing\planning the Win7\Win10 in-place upgrade for my 200,000
seat installation. Pretty smooth process so far. Very few apps that
trip the block\rollback function, none of the ones I've seen are
commonly used on the consumer side.

[Seth]

formulated on Tuesday :
>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:28:11 -0600, philo > wrote:
>
>> On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon
>>> release. Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7
>>> users - probably done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just
>>> Win8 to Win10).
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> charliec
>>>
>>
>>
>> I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>>
>> If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>> classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>>
>> Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>
> Thanks for the reply. I'm a Win7 User, not Win8, so was looking more for
> comparison to Win7. I read earlier that MS decided to retain the Win7 GUI in
> Win10, which is great! But, was wondering what advancements were being
> offered to prompt Win7 users to moved when Win10 is released.
>
> But, again, thanks for your reply.

They didn't retain the Win7 gui as much as they are offering the Win10
Start screen in a more compressed "Win7 Start menu like" format. It's
still the new Start screen, just compressed to a menu format anchored
to the location of the Start button. All the new code.

[Seth]

formulated on Tuesday :
>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:28:11 -0600, philo > wrote:
>
>> On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon
>>> release. Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7
>>> users - probably done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just
>>> Win8 to Win10).
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> charliec
>>>
>>
>>
>> I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>>
>> If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>> classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>>
>> Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>
> Thanks for the reply. I'm a Win7 User, not Win8, so was looking more for
> comparison to Win7. I read earlier that MS decided to retain the Win7 GUI in
> Win10, which is great! But, was wondering what advancements were being
> offered to prompt Win7 users to moved when Win10 is released.
>
> But, again, thanks for your reply.

They didn't retain the Win7 gui as much as they are offering the Win10
Start screen in a more compressed "Win7 Start menu like" format. It's
still the new Start screen, just compressed to a menu format anchored
to the location of the Start button. All the new code.

[Brian Gregory]

On 21/01/2015 09:25, Bob Henson wrote:
> On 20/01/2015 11:28 pm, philo wrote:
>> On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
>>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
>>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> charliec
>>>
>>
>>
>> I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>>
>> If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>> classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>>
>
> Not in any usable form - you still need Classic Shell or similar.
>
>> Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>>
>
> Now there we agree wholeheartedly. I don't have a phone or a spare
> tablet to test it on - (and it could be quite good on a touch screen
> device) but Windows 10 has no advantages over Windows 7 whatever on a
> desktop or laptop, and quite a few disadvantages. Let's just hope the
> final version has some big changes.
>

There are quite big internal changes that may or may not make any real
difference in practice.

For instance in Win10 you can now do a chkdsk /f type operation without
dismounting the drive!

--

Brian Gregory (in the UK).
To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address.

[Brian Gregory]

On 21/01/2015 09:25, Bob Henson wrote:
> On 20/01/2015 11:28 pm, philo wrote:
>> On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon release.
>>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users - probably
>>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> charliec
>>>
>>
>>
>> I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>>
>> If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>> classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>>
>
> Not in any usable form - you still need Classic Shell or similar.
>
>> Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>>
>
> Now there we agree wholeheartedly. I don't have a phone or a spare
> tablet to test it on - (and it could be quite good on a touch screen
> device) but Windows 10 has no advantages over Windows 7 whatever on a
> desktop or laptop, and quite a few disadvantages. Let's just hope the
> final version has some big changes.
>

There are quite big internal changes that may or may not make any real
difference in practice.

For instance in Win10 you can now do a chkdsk /f type operation without
dismounting the drive!

--

Brian Gregory (in the UK).
To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address.

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Brian Gregory" > wrote in message
...
> On 21/01/2015 09:25, Bob Henson wrote:
>> On 20/01/2015 11:28 pm, philo wrote:
>>> On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>>>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon
>>>> release.
>>>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users -
>>>> probably
>>>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> charliec
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>>>
>>> If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>>> classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>>>
>>
>> Not in any usable form - you still need Classic Shell or similar.
>>
>>> Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>>>
>>
>> Now there we agree wholeheartedly. I don't have a phone or a spare
>> tablet to test it on - (and it could be quite good on a touch screen
>> device) but Windows 10 has no advantages over Windows 7 whatever on a
>> desktop or laptop, and quite a few disadvantages. Let's just hope the
>> final version has some big changes.
>>
>
> There are quite big internal changes that may or may not make any real
> difference in practice.
>
> For instance in Win10 you can now do a chkdsk /f type operation without
> dismounting the drive!

Not on my installation. It still has to reboot to run it.
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SC Tom

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Brian Gregory" > wrote in message
...
> On 21/01/2015 09:25, Bob Henson wrote:
>> On 20/01/2015 11:28 pm, philo wrote:
>>> On 01/20/2015 04:56 PM, wrote:
>>>> Anyone exploring the possibilities of moving from Win7 to Win10 upon
>>>> release.
>>>> Anyone with experience with Win10 can share insights for Win7 users -
>>>> probably
>>>> done before, but haven't seen much lately (mainly just Win8 to Win10).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> charliec
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm evaluating Win10 and believe it will be well received.
>>>
>>> If you want the Win8 "tiles" you can get them, but if you prefer a
>>> classic GUI similar to Win7, it's there by default.
>>>
>>
>> Not in any usable form - you still need Classic Shell or similar.
>>
>>> Since Win7 is still supported I don't see any real reason to upgrade.
>>>
>>
>> Now there we agree wholeheartedly. I don't have a phone or a spare
>> tablet to test it on - (and it could be quite good on a touch screen
>> device) but Windows 10 has no advantages over Windows 7 whatever on a
>> desktop or laptop, and quite a few disadvantages. Let's just hope the
>> final version has some big changes.
>>
>
> There are quite big internal changes that may or may not make any real
> difference in practice.
>
> For instance in Win10 you can now do a chkdsk /f type operation without
> dismounting the drive!

Not on my installation. It still has to reboot to run it.
--
SC Tom