So after 1 year free what?

[Jay Brown]

I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not Upgrade.

[Big_Al[_4_]]

Jay Brown wrote on 1/22/2015 5:34 PM:
> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>
There are a few other threads on this newsgroup already talking about it.
You're welcome to a new thread by me, but you could look for similar subjects.

Basically I don't think anyone KNOWS. We think but the wording in any news I've seen is a bit vague. IMO

[Big_Al[_4_]]

Jay Brown wrote on 1/22/2015 5:34 PM:
> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>
There are a few other threads on this newsgroup already talking about it.
You're welcome to a new thread by me, but you could look for similar subjects.

Basically I don't think anyone KNOWS. We think but the wording in any news I've seen is a bit vague. IMO

[Jay Brown]

Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.

"Big_Al" > escreveu na mensagem ...
> Jay Brown wrote on 1/22/2015 5:34 PM:
>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>>
> There are a few other threads on this newsgroup already talking about it.
> You're welcome to a new thread by me, but you could look for similar subjects.
>
> Basically I don't think anyone KNOWS. We think but the wording in any news I've seen is a bit vague. IMO
>

[Jay Brown]

Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.

"Big_Al" > escreveu na mensagem ...
> Jay Brown wrote on 1/22/2015 5:34 PM:
>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>>
> There are a few other threads on this newsgroup already talking about it.
> You're welcome to a new thread by me, but you could look for similar subjects.
>
> Basically I don't think anyone KNOWS. We think but the wording in any news I've seen is a bit vague. IMO
>

[Drew[_8_]]

On 1/22/2015 2:34 PM, Jay Brown wrote:
> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>
From what I read although it seems a little vague, win7 and 8 users get
the upgrade free for as long as you have that device.You must upgrade
the first year after its release. If you wait and try upgrading after
the first year then it will cost you. Maybe I am reading it wrong but I
hope not.I run win 7 pro on 2 different pc's and win 8.1 on another
although using Start8 to make it work like 7. All 3 of these work great
and I am in no rush to upgrade so. I might even wait most of the first
year before upgrading.

A side note. All of this could be wishful thinking because it is not
like Microsoft made win 7 free to cover Vista like they should have.It
will probably change 5 times before win 10 official release!

[Drew[_8_]]

On 1/22/2015 2:34 PM, Jay Brown wrote:
> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>
From what I read although it seems a little vague, win7 and 8 users get
the upgrade free for as long as you have that device.You must upgrade
the first year after its release. If you wait and try upgrading after
the first year then it will cost you. Maybe I am reading it wrong but I
hope not.I run win 7 pro on 2 different pc's and win 8.1 on another
although using Start8 to make it work like 7. All 3 of these work great
and I am in no rush to upgrade so. I might even wait most of the first
year before upgrading.

A side note. All of this could be wishful thinking because it is not
like Microsoft made win 7 free to cover Vista like they should have.It
will probably change 5 times before win 10 official release!

[Big_Al[_4_]]

Jay Brown wrote on 1/22/2015 6:21 PM:
> Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.
>
> "Big_Al" > escreveu na mensagem ...
>> Jay Brown wrote on 1/22/2015 5:34 PM:
>>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>>>
>> There are a few other threads on this newsgroup already talking about it.
>> You're welcome to a new thread by me, but you could look for similar subjects.
>>
>> Basically I don't think anyone KNOWS. We think but the wording in any news I've seen is a bit vague. IMO
>>
No inconvenience, I don't run the news server nor do I buy the hardware to support the traffic be it valid or not.
I've done the same thing, so we're in the same boat.

Have fun. Stick around, people will reply for sure.

[Big_Al[_4_]]

Jay Brown wrote on 1/22/2015 6:21 PM:
> Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.
>
> "Big_Al" > escreveu na mensagem ...
>> Jay Brown wrote on 1/22/2015 5:34 PM:
>>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>>>
>> There are a few other threads on this newsgroup already talking about it.
>> You're welcome to a new thread by me, but you could look for similar subjects.
>>
>> Basically I don't think anyone KNOWS. We think but the wording in any news I've seen is a bit vague. IMO
>>
No inconvenience, I don't run the news server nor do I buy the hardware to support the traffic be it valid or not.
I've done the same thing, so we're in the same boat.

Have fun. Stick around, people will reply for sure.

[PAS]

>"Jay Brown" > wrote in message
...
I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free
year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10
upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not
Upgrade.
>

Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free. That doesn't
mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's not subscription-based.
If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you can upgrade for free within one
year of the release of Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay
for the upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the OS
is not subscription based and you can use it as long as you wish.

[PAS]

>"Jay Brown" > wrote in message
...
I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free
year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10
upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not
Upgrade.
>

Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free. That doesn't
mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's not subscription-based.
If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you can upgrade for free within one
year of the release of Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay
for the upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the OS
is not subscription based and you can use it as long as you wish.

[A]

PAS wrote:
>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>> ...
> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free
> year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10
> upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>>
>
> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free. That doesn't
> mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's not subscription-based.
> If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you can upgrade for free within one
> year of the release of Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay
> for the upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the OS
> is not subscription based and you can use it as long as you wish.

Really? Truly?

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html

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[A]

PAS wrote:
>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>> ...
> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free
> year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10
> upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>>
>
> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free. That doesn't
> mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's not subscription-based.
> If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you can upgrade for free within one
> year of the release of Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay
> for the upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the OS
> is not subscription based and you can use it as long as you wish.

Really? Truly?

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html

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[Tigger]

A writted thus

> PAS wrote:
>>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free
>> year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10
>> upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>>>
>>
>> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free. That doesn't
>> mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's not subscription-based.
>> If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you can upgrade for free within one
>> year of the release of Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay
>> for the upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the OS
>> is not subscription based and you can use it as long as you wish.
>
> Really? Truly?
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-
monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html

Seems to me the whole thing is a giant cluster**** at the moment.

Nobody knows for sure, everyone is piecing bits of guesswork together
and even M$ seem to contradict themselves month on month about pricing.

I'll leave it, thanks...



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[Tigger]

A writted thus

> PAS wrote:
>>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free
>> year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10
>> upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>>>
>>
>> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free. That doesn't
>> mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's not subscription-based.
>> If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you can upgrade for free within one
>> year of the release of Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay
>> for the upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the OS
>> is not subscription based and you can use it as long as you wish.
>
> Really? Truly?
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-
monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html

Seems to me the whole thing is a giant cluster**** at the moment.

Nobody knows for sure, everyone is piecing bits of guesswork together
and even M$ seem to contradict themselves month on month about pricing.

I'll leave it, thanks...



--
Free Dropbox: http://db.tt/aI6WBZ7w

[PAS]

"A" > wrote in message ...
> PAS wrote:
>>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first
>> free
>> year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows
>> 10
>> upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not
>> Upgrade.
>>>
>>
>> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free. That
>> doesn't
>> mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's not
>> subscription-based.
>> If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you can upgrade for free within one
>> year of the release of Windows 10. After one year, you will have to
>> pay
>> for the upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the
>> OS
>> is not subscription based and you can use it as long as you wish.
>
> Really? Truly?
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html

Yes, really. This article you linked to is for Enterprise users, we're
not talking about Enterprise users here. It's very simple, within the
first year of release, Windows 7 and 8 users can upgrade free to Windows
10. If they wait longer than a year, they pay for the upgrade. It's
not subscription-based.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7866679/windows-10-will-be-a-free-upgrade-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users
http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/21/microsoft-to-provide-free-upgrades-to-windows-10/
http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/

[PAS]

"A" > wrote in message ...
> PAS wrote:
>>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first
>> free
>> year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows
>> 10
>> upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not
>> Upgrade.
>>>
>>
>> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free. That
>> doesn't
>> mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's not
>> subscription-based.
>> If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you can upgrade for free within one
>> year of the release of Windows 10. After one year, you will have to
>> pay
>> for the upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the
>> OS
>> is not subscription based and you can use it as long as you wish.
>
> Really? Truly?
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html

Yes, really. This article you linked to is for Enterprise users, we're
not talking about Enterprise users here. It's very simple, within the
first year of release, Windows 7 and 8 users can upgrade free to Windows
10. If they wait longer than a year, they pay for the upgrade. It's
not subscription-based.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7866679/windows-10-will-be-a-free-upgrade-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users
http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/21/microsoft-to-provide-free-upgrades-to-windows-10/
http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/

[A]

PAS wrote:
> "A" > wrote in message ...
>> PAS wrote:
>>>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free
>>> year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10
>>> upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not
>>> Upgrade.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free. That doesn't
>>> mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's not subscription-based.
>>> If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you can upgrade for free within one
>>> year of the release of Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay
>>> for the upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the OS
>>> is not subscription based and you can use it as long as you wish.
>>
>> Really? Truly?
>>
>> http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html
>>
>
> Yes, really. This article you linked to is for Enterprise users, we're
> not talking about Enterprise users here. It's very simple, within the
> first year of release, Windows 7 and 8 users can upgrade free to Windows
> 10. If they wait longer than a year, they pay for the upgrade. It's
> not subscription-based.
>
> http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7866679/windows-10-will-be-a-free-upgrade-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users
>
> http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/21/microsoft-to-provide-free-upgrades-to-windows-10/
>
> http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/
>

It's a sign of things to come. Today Enterprise, tomorrow everything.

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[A]

PAS wrote:
> "A" > wrote in message ...
>> PAS wrote:
>>>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free
>>> year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10
>>> upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not
>>> Upgrade.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free. That doesn't
>>> mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's not subscription-based.
>>> If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you can upgrade for free within one
>>> year of the release of Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay
>>> for the upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the OS
>>> is not subscription based and you can use it as long as you wish.
>>
>> Really? Truly?
>>
>> http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html
>>
>
> Yes, really. This article you linked to is for Enterprise users, we're
> not talking about Enterprise users here. It's very simple, within the
> first year of release, Windows 7 and 8 users can upgrade free to Windows
> 10. If they wait longer than a year, they pay for the upgrade. It's
> not subscription-based.
>
> http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7866679/windows-10-will-be-a-free-upgrade-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users
>
> http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/21/microsoft-to-provide-free-upgrades-to-windows-10/
>
> http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/
>

It's a sign of things to come. Today Enterprise, tomorrow everything.

--
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[Big_Al[_4_]]

A wrote on 1/23/2015 11:17 AM:
> PAS wrote:
>> "A" > wrote in message ...
>>> PAS wrote:
>>>>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free
>>>> year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10
>>>> upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not
>>>> Upgrade.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free. That doesn't
>>>> mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's not subscription-based.
>>>> If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you can upgrade for free within one
>>>> year of the release of Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay
>>>> for the upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the OS
>>>> is not subscription based and you can use it as long as you wish.
>>>
>>> Really? Truly?
>>>
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html
>>>
>>
>> Yes, really. This article you linked to is for Enterprise users, we're
>> not talking about Enterprise users here. It's very simple, within the
>> first year of release, Windows 7 and 8 users can upgrade free to Windows
>> 10. If they wait longer than a year, they pay for the upgrade. It's
>> not subscription-based.
>>
>> http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7866679/windows-10-will-be-a-free-upgrade-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users
>>
>> http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/21/microsoft-to-provide-free-upgrades-to-windows-10/
>>
>> http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/
>>
>
> It's a sign of things to come. Today Enterprise, tomorrow everything.
>
I've seen writers hint also to the pay as you go process for home users. Something that MS 'wants' to do but no clear
definition that they are. So like others have said, there are hints, but no concrete evidence. It wouldn't surprise
me though.

Try running Linux Mint Cinnamon 17 one day on a live boot CD. If you don't have a ton of unique programs, any linux
system has a huge collection of software. Plays music, videos, VLC, Thunderbird, Firefox, Opera?, Chrome, burns CDs,
chat and more I just can't find time to do yet. I've been playing with it dual boot for years, getting to know it.
Just keeping options open. It's favorable to me now that I'm older and not pushing the envelope like I did years ago.

[Big_Al[_4_]]

A wrote on 1/23/2015 11:17 AM:
> PAS wrote:
>> "A" > wrote in message ...
>>> PAS wrote:
>>>>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after first free
>>>> year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or we can have Windows 10
>>>> upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like to have Full Version, not
>>>> Upgrade.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free. That doesn't
>>>> mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's not subscription-based.
>>>> If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you can upgrade for free within one
>>>> year of the release of Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay
>>>> for the upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the OS
>>>> is not subscription based and you can use it as long as you wish.
>>>
>>> Really? Truly?
>>>
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html
>>>
>>
>> Yes, really. This article you linked to is for Enterprise users, we're
>> not talking about Enterprise users here. It's very simple, within the
>> first year of release, Windows 7 and 8 users can upgrade free to Windows
>> 10. If they wait longer than a year, they pay for the upgrade. It's
>> not subscription-based.
>>
>> http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7866679/windows-10-will-be-a-free-upgrade-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users
>>
>> http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/21/microsoft-to-provide-free-upgrades-to-windows-10/
>>
>> http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/
>>
>
> It's a sign of things to come. Today Enterprise, tomorrow everything.
>
I've seen writers hint also to the pay as you go process for home users. Something that MS 'wants' to do but no clear
definition that they are. So like others have said, there are hints, but no concrete evidence. It wouldn't surprise
me though.

Try running Linux Mint Cinnamon 17 one day on a live boot CD. If you don't have a ton of unique programs, any linux
system has a huge collection of software. Plays music, videos, VLC, Thunderbird, Firefox, Opera?, Chrome, burns CDs,
chat and more I just can't find time to do yet. I've been playing with it dual boot for years, getting to know it.
Just keeping options open. It's favorable to me now that I'm older and not pushing the envelope like I did years ago.

[A]

Big_Al wrote:
> A wrote on 1/23/2015 11:17 AM:
>> PAS wrote:
>>> "A" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> PAS wrote:
>>>>>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after
>>>>> first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or
>>>>> we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like
>>>>> to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free.
>>>>> That doesn't mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's
>>>>> not subscription-based. If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you
>>>>> can upgrade for free within one year of the release of
>>>>> Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay for the
>>>>> upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the
>>>>> OS is not subscription based and you can use it as long as
>>>>> you wish.
>>>>
>>>> Really? Truly?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
Yes, really. This article you linked to is for Enterprise users, we're
>>> not talking about Enterprise users here. It's very simple,
>>> within the first year of release, Windows 7 and 8 users can
>>> upgrade free to Windows 10. If they wait longer than a year,
>>> they pay for the upgrade. It's not subscription-based.
>>>
>>> http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7866679/windows-10-will-be-a-free-upgrade-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users
>>>
>>>
>>>
http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/21/microsoft-to-provide-free-upgrades-to-windows-10/
>>>
>>> http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
It's a sign of things to come. Today Enterprise, tomorrow everything.
>>
> I've seen writers hint also to the pay as you go process for home
> users. Something that MS 'wants' to do but no clear definition that
> they are. So like others have said, there are hints, but no
> concrete evidence. It wouldn't surprise me though.
>
> Try running Linux Mint Cinnamon 17 one day on a live boot CD. If
> you don't have a ton of unique programs, any linux system has a huge
> collection of software. Plays music, videos, VLC, Thunderbird,
> Firefox, Opera?, Chrome, burns CDs, chat and more I just can't find
> time to do yet. I've been playing with it dual boot for years,
> getting to know it. Just keeping options open. It's favorable to
> me now that I'm older and not pushing the envelope like I did years
> ago.
>
>

I have Linux Mint on another computer. I got into Linux back in 03. I
started out with Ubuntu, then Mint, then Net Runner and ended up with Mint.

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[A]

Big_Al wrote:
> A wrote on 1/23/2015 11:17 AM:
>> PAS wrote:
>>> "A" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> PAS wrote:
>>>>>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after
>>>>> first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or
>>>>> we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like
>>>>> to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free.
>>>>> That doesn't mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's
>>>>> not subscription-based. If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you
>>>>> can upgrade for free within one year of the release of
>>>>> Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay for the
>>>>> upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the
>>>>> OS is not subscription based and you can use it as long as
>>>>> you wish.
>>>>
>>>> Really? Truly?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
Yes, really. This article you linked to is for Enterprise users, we're
>>> not talking about Enterprise users here. It's very simple,
>>> within the first year of release, Windows 7 and 8 users can
>>> upgrade free to Windows 10. If they wait longer than a year,
>>> they pay for the upgrade. It's not subscription-based.
>>>
>>> http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7866679/windows-10-will-be-a-free-upgrade-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users
>>>
>>>
>>>
http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/21/microsoft-to-provide-free-upgrades-to-windows-10/
>>>
>>> http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
It's a sign of things to come. Today Enterprise, tomorrow everything.
>>
> I've seen writers hint also to the pay as you go process for home
> users. Something that MS 'wants' to do but no clear definition that
> they are. So like others have said, there are hints, but no
> concrete evidence. It wouldn't surprise me though.
>
> Try running Linux Mint Cinnamon 17 one day on a live boot CD. If
> you don't have a ton of unique programs, any linux system has a huge
> collection of software. Plays music, videos, VLC, Thunderbird,
> Firefox, Opera?, Chrome, burns CDs, chat and more I just can't find
> time to do yet. I've been playing with it dual boot for years,
> getting to know it. Just keeping options open. It's favorable to
> me now that I'm older and not pushing the envelope like I did years
> ago.
>
>

I have Linux Mint on another computer. I got into Linux back in 03. I
started out with Ubuntu, then Mint, then Net Runner and ended up with Mint.

--
A

[Jay Brown]

"A" > escreveu na mensagem ...
> Big_Al wrote:
>> A wrote on 1/23/2015 11:17 AM:
>>> PAS wrote:
>>>> "A" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> PAS wrote:
>>>>>>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after
>>>>>> first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or
>>>>>> we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like
>>>>>> to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free.
>>>>>> That doesn't mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's
>>>>>> not subscription-based. If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you
>>>>>> can upgrade for free within one year of the release of
>>>>>> Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay for the
>>>>>> upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the
>>>>>> OS is not subscription based and you can use it as long as
>>>>>> you wish.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? Truly?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
> Yes, really. This article you linked to is for Enterprise users, we're
>>>> not talking about Enterprise users here. It's very simple,
>>>> within the first year of release, Windows 7 and 8 users can
>>>> upgrade free to Windows 10. If they wait longer than a year,
>>>> they pay for the upgrade. It's not subscription-based.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7866679/windows-10-will-be-a-free-upgrade-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
> http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/21/microsoft-to-provide-free-upgrades-to-windows-10/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
> It's a sign of things to come. Today Enterprise, tomorrow everything.
>>>
>> I've seen writers hint also to the pay as you go process for home
>> users. Something that MS 'wants' to do but no clear definition that
>> they are. So like others have said, there are hints, but no
>> concrete evidence. It wouldn't surprise me though.
>>
>> Try running Linux Mint Cinnamon 17 one day on a live boot CD. If
>> you don't have a ton of unique programs, any linux system has a huge
>> collection of software. Plays music, videos, VLC, Thunderbird,
>> Firefox, Opera?, Chrome, burns CDs, chat and more I just can't find
>> time to do yet. I've been playing with it dual boot for years,
>> getting to know it. Just keeping options open. It's favorable to
>> me now that I'm older and not pushing the envelope like I did years
>> ago.
>>
>>
>
> I have Linux Mint on another computer. I got into Linux back in 03. I
> started out with Ubuntu, then Mint, then Net Runner and ended up with Mint.
>
> --
> A

Is it easy to install periphericals like a printer in Linux?

[Jay Brown]

"A" > escreveu na mensagem ...
> Big_Al wrote:
>> A wrote on 1/23/2015 11:17 AM:
>>> PAS wrote:
>>>> "A" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> PAS wrote:
>>>>>>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after
>>>>>> first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or
>>>>>> we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like
>>>>>> to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free.
>>>>>> That doesn't mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's
>>>>>> not subscription-based. If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you
>>>>>> can upgrade for free within one year of the release of
>>>>>> Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay for the
>>>>>> upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the
>>>>>> OS is not subscription based and you can use it as long as
>>>>>> you wish.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? Truly?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
> Yes, really. This article you linked to is for Enterprise users, we're
>>>> not talking about Enterprise users here. It's very simple,
>>>> within the first year of release, Windows 7 and 8 users can
>>>> upgrade free to Windows 10. If they wait longer than a year,
>>>> they pay for the upgrade. It's not subscription-based.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7866679/windows-10-will-be-a-free-upgrade-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
> http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/21/microsoft-to-provide-free-upgrades-to-windows-10/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
> It's a sign of things to come. Today Enterprise, tomorrow everything.
>>>
>> I've seen writers hint also to the pay as you go process for home
>> users. Something that MS 'wants' to do but no clear definition that
>> they are. So like others have said, there are hints, but no
>> concrete evidence. It wouldn't surprise me though.
>>
>> Try running Linux Mint Cinnamon 17 one day on a live boot CD. If
>> you don't have a ton of unique programs, any linux system has a huge
>> collection of software. Plays music, videos, VLC, Thunderbird,
>> Firefox, Opera?, Chrome, burns CDs, chat and more I just can't find
>> time to do yet. I've been playing with it dual boot for years,
>> getting to know it. Just keeping options open. It's favorable to
>> me now that I'm older and not pushing the envelope like I did years
>> ago.
>>
>>
>
> I have Linux Mint on another computer. I got into Linux back in 03. I
> started out with Ubuntu, then Mint, then Net Runner and ended up with Mint.
>
> --
> A

Is it easy to install periphericals like a printer in Linux?

[Paul]

Jay Brown wrote:
> "A" > escreveu na mensagem ...
>> Big_Al wrote:
>>> A wrote on 1/23/2015 11:17 AM:
>>>> PAS wrote:
>>>>> "A" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> PAS wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after
>>>>>>> first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or
>>>>>>> we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like
>>>>>>> to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>>>>>>> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free.
>>>>>>> That doesn't mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's
>>>>>>> not subscription-based. If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you
>>>>>>> can upgrade for free within one year of the release of
>>>>>>> Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay for the
>>>>>>> upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the
>>>>>>> OS is not subscription based and you can use it as long as
>>>>>>> you wish.
>>>>>> Really? Truly?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> Yes, really. This article you linked to is for Enterprise users, we're
>>>>> not talking about Enterprise users here. It's very simple,
>>>>> within the first year of release, Windows 7 and 8 users can
>>>>> upgrade free to Windows 10. If they wait longer than a year,
>>>>> they pay for the upgrade. It's not subscription-based.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7866679/windows-10-will-be-a-free-upgrade-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/21/microsoft-to-provide-free-upgrades-to-windows-10/
>>>>> http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/
>>>>>
>>>>
>> It's a sign of things to come. Today Enterprise, tomorrow everything.
>>> I've seen writers hint also to the pay as you go process for home
>>> users. Something that MS 'wants' to do but no clear definition that
>>> they are. So like others have said, there are hints, but no
>>> concrete evidence. It wouldn't surprise me though.
>>>
>>> Try running Linux Mint Cinnamon 17 one day on a live boot CD. If
>>> you don't have a ton of unique programs, any linux system has a huge
>>> collection of software. Plays music, videos, VLC, Thunderbird,
>>> Firefox, Opera?, Chrome, burns CDs, chat and more I just can't find
>>> time to do yet. I've been playing with it dual boot for years,
>>> getting to know it. Just keeping options open. It's favorable to
>>> me now that I'm older and not pushing the envelope like I did years
>>> ago.
>>>
>>>
>> I have Linux Mint on another computer. I got into Linux back in 03. I
>> started out with Ubuntu, then Mint, then Net Runner and ended up with Mint.
>>
>> --
>> A
>
> Is it easy to install periphericals like a printer in Linux?
>

Some printers do actually have Linux support - from the manufacturer.
Shocking. But I wouldn't say that was a dominant thing yet, more
an exception.

http://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux/en/index.html?c=us_ot&lang=en&comple=on&redirect=on

Paul

[Paul]

Jay Brown wrote:
> "A" > escreveu na mensagem ...
>> Big_Al wrote:
>>> A wrote on 1/23/2015 11:17 AM:
>>>> PAS wrote:
>>>>> "A" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> PAS wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after
>>>>>>> first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or
>>>>>>> we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like
>>>>>>> to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>>>>>>> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free.
>>>>>>> That doesn't mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's
>>>>>>> not subscription-based. If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you
>>>>>>> can upgrade for free within one year of the release of
>>>>>>> Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay for the
>>>>>>> upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the
>>>>>>> OS is not subscription based and you can use it as long as
>>>>>>> you wish.
>>>>>> Really? Truly?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> Yes, really. This article you linked to is for Enterprise users, we're
>>>>> not talking about Enterprise users here. It's very simple,
>>>>> within the first year of release, Windows 7 and 8 users can
>>>>> upgrade free to Windows 10. If they wait longer than a year,
>>>>> they pay for the upgrade. It's not subscription-based.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7866679/windows-10-will-be-a-free-upgrade-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/21/microsoft-to-provide-free-upgrades-to-windows-10/
>>>>> http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/
>>>>>
>>>>
>> It's a sign of things to come. Today Enterprise, tomorrow everything.
>>> I've seen writers hint also to the pay as you go process for home
>>> users. Something that MS 'wants' to do but no clear definition that
>>> they are. So like others have said, there are hints, but no
>>> concrete evidence. It wouldn't surprise me though.
>>>
>>> Try running Linux Mint Cinnamon 17 one day on a live boot CD. If
>>> you don't have a ton of unique programs, any linux system has a huge
>>> collection of software. Plays music, videos, VLC, Thunderbird,
>>> Firefox, Opera?, Chrome, burns CDs, chat and more I just can't find
>>> time to do yet. I've been playing with it dual boot for years,
>>> getting to know it. Just keeping options open. It's favorable to
>>> me now that I'm older and not pushing the envelope like I did years
>>> ago.
>>>
>>>
>> I have Linux Mint on another computer. I got into Linux back in 03. I
>> started out with Ubuntu, then Mint, then Net Runner and ended up with Mint.
>>
>> --
>> A
>
> Is it easy to install periphericals like a printer in Linux?
>

Some printers do actually have Linux support - from the manufacturer.
Shocking. But I wouldn't say that was a dominant thing yet, more
an exception.

http://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux/en/index.html?c=us_ot&lang=en&comple=on&redirect=on

Paul

[A]

Jay Brown wrote:
>
> "A" > escreveu na mensagem ...
>> Big_Al wrote:
>>> A wrote on 1/23/2015 11:17 AM:
>>>> PAS wrote:
>>>>> "A" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> PAS wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after
>>>>>>> first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or
>>>>>>> we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like
>>>>>>> to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free.
>>>>>>> That doesn't mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's
>>>>>>> not subscription-based. If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you
>>>>>>> can upgrade for free within one year of the release of
>>>>>>> Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay for the
>>>>>>> upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the
>>>>>>> OS is not subscription based and you can use it as long as
>>>>>>> you wish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? Truly?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> Yes, really. This article you linked to is for Enterprise users, we're
>>>>> not talking about Enterprise users here. It's very simple,
>>>>> within the first year of release, Windows 7 and 8 users can
>>>>> upgrade free to Windows 10. If they wait longer than a year,
>>>>> they pay for the upgrade. It's not subscription-based.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7866679/windows-10-will-be-a-free-upgrade-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/21/microsoft-to-provide-free-upgrades-to-windows-10/
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>> It's a sign of things to come. Today Enterprise, tomorrow everything.
>>>>
>>> I've seen writers hint also to the pay as you go process for home
>>> users. Something that MS 'wants' to do but no clear definition that
>>> they are. So like others have said, there are hints, but no
>>> concrete evidence. It wouldn't surprise me though.
>>>
>>> Try running Linux Mint Cinnamon 17 one day on a live boot CD. If
>>> you don't have a ton of unique programs, any linux system has a huge
>>> collection of software. Plays music, videos, VLC, Thunderbird,
>>> Firefox, Opera?, Chrome, burns CDs, chat and more I just can't find
>>> time to do yet. I've been playing with it dual boot for years,
>>> getting to know it. Just keeping options open. It's favorable to
>>> me now that I'm older and not pushing the envelope like I did years
>>> ago.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I have Linux Mint on another computer. I got into Linux back in 03. I
>> started out with Ubuntu, then Mint, then Net Runner and ended up with Mint.
>>
>> --
>> A
>
> Is it easy to install periphericals like a printer in Linux?
>

Some printers are easy, others impossible. My HP all in one works perfectly.

--
A

[A]

Jay Brown wrote:
>
> "A" > escreveu na mensagem ...
>> Big_Al wrote:
>>> A wrote on 1/23/2015 11:17 AM:
>>>> PAS wrote:
>>>>> "A" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> PAS wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Jay Brown" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> I've read MS Windows 10 news. Do you know what happens after
>>>>>>> first free year? Will it be like Office 365 subscription? Or
>>>>>>> we can have Windows 10 upgrade for free? In my case, I'd like
>>>>>>> to have Full Version, not Upgrade.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows 7 and 8 users have one year to upgrade for free.
>>>>>>> That doesn't mean that you have one year to use the OS. It's
>>>>>>> not subscription-based. If you are a Windows 7 or 8 user, you
>>>>>>> can upgrade for free within one year of the release of
>>>>>>> Windows 10. After one year, you will have to pay for the
>>>>>>> upgrade. In either case, free upgrade or paid upgrade, the
>>>>>>> OS is not subscription based and you can use it as long as
>>>>>>> you wish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? Truly?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts-7-per-user-monthly-pricing-for-windows-subscriptions.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> Yes, really. This article you linked to is for Enterprise users, we're
>>>>> not talking about Enterprise users here. It's very simple,
>>>>> within the first year of release, Windows 7 and 8 users can
>>>>> upgrade free to Windows 10. If they wait longer than a year,
>>>>> they pay for the upgrade. It's not subscription-based.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7866679/windows-10-will-be-a-free-upgrade-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/21/microsoft-to-provide-free-upgrades-to-windows-10/
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>> It's a sign of things to come. Today Enterprise, tomorrow everything.
>>>>
>>> I've seen writers hint also to the pay as you go process for home
>>> users. Something that MS 'wants' to do but no clear definition that
>>> they are. So like others have said, there are hints, but no
>>> concrete evidence. It wouldn't surprise me though.
>>>
>>> Try running Linux Mint Cinnamon 17 one day on a live boot CD. If
>>> you don't have a ton of unique programs, any linux system has a huge
>>> collection of software. Plays music, videos, VLC, Thunderbird,
>>> Firefox, Opera?, Chrome, burns CDs, chat and more I just can't find
>>> time to do yet. I've been playing with it dual boot for years,
>>> getting to know it. Just keeping options open. It's favorable to
>>> me now that I'm older and not pushing the envelope like I did years
>>> ago.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I have Linux Mint on another computer. I got into Linux back in 03. I
>> started out with Ubuntu, then Mint, then Net Runner and ended up with Mint.
>>
>> --
>> A
>
> Is it easy to install periphericals like a printer in Linux?
>

Some printers are easy, others impossible. My HP all in one works perfectly.

--
A