Full shutdown/restart...

[Dave Doe]

Wondering how one achieves this.

In Windows 8, you can set the power up/down to perform without
'special' hybernation. (After time, the OS seem to need clean undies).

Is this an option in Windows 10? It seems to be absent, yet I think
hybrid hypernation is 'set' - as the boot/reboot time is pretty quick -
as in, too quick to be true.

???


--
Duncan.

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Dave Doe" > wrote in message
...
> Wondering how one achieves this.
>
> In Windows 8, you can set the power up/down to perform without
> 'special' hybernation. (After time, the OS seem to need clean undies).
>
> Is this an option in Windows 10? It seems to be absent, yet I think
> hybrid hypernation is 'set' - as the boot/reboot time is pretty quick -
> as in, too quick to be true.
>
> ???
>
>
CAP from a January post:

"It does, and you can turn it off the same way as in Win8/8.1.

Go to Control Panel . . . Power Options. Click on "Choose what the power
buttons do." Click on "Change settings that are currently unavailable" near
the top of the page, then uncheck "Turn on fast startup (recommended)"
under the Shutdown settings. Save Changes and that's it.

I have fast startup disabled on both my Win8.1 and Win10 setups (separate
HDD in the same machine) and see hardly any difference in boot-up times as
opposed to when it is enabled."
--
SC Tom

[Dave Doe]

In article >, , SC Tom says...
>
> "Dave Doe" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Wondering how one achieves this.
> >
> > In Windows 8, you can set the power up/down to perform without
> > 'special' hybernation. (After time, the OS seem to need clean undies).
> >
> > Is this an option in Windows 10? It seems to be absent, yet I think
> > hybrid hypernation is 'set' - as the boot/reboot time is pretty quick -
> > as in, too quick to be true.
> >
> > ???
> >
> >
> CAP from a January post:
>
> "It does, and you can turn it off the same way as in Win8/8.1.
>
> Go to Control Panel . . . Power Options. Click on "Choose what the power
> buttons do." Click on "Change settings that are currently unavailable" near
> the top of the page, then uncheck "Turn on fast startup (recommended)"
> under the Shutdown settings. Save Changes and that's it.
>
> I have fast startup disabled on both my Win8.1 and Win10 setups (separate
> HDD in the same machine) and see hardly any difference in boot-up times as
> opposed to when it is enabled."

Ah it's been moved into there. Found it, finally, cheers.

--
Duncan.

[Dave Doe]

In article >, , SC Tom says...
>
> "Dave Doe" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Wondering how one achieves this.
> >
> > In Windows 8, you can set the power up/down to perform without
> > 'special' hybernation. (After time, the OS seem to need clean undies).
> >
> > Is this an option in Windows 10? It seems to be absent, yet I think
> > hybrid hypernation is 'set' - as the boot/reboot time is pretty quick -
> > as in, too quick to be true.
> >
> > ???
> >
> >
> CAP from a January post:
>
> "It does, and you can turn it off the same way as in Win8/8.1.
>
> Go to Control Panel . . . Power Options. Click on "Choose what the power
> buttons do." Click on "Change settings that are currently unavailable" near
> the top of the page, then uncheck "Turn on fast startup (recommended)"
> under the Shutdown settings. Save Changes and that's it.
>
> I have fast startup disabled on both my Win8.1 and Win10 setups (separate
> HDD in the same machine) and see hardly any difference in boot-up times as
> opposed to when it is enabled."

Actually, re-reading that, no I don't have that option. If I click on
"change settings that are currently available", all I get is a "lock"
checkbox at the bottom.

In Win8, I'd see the turn off fast startup - but not on my Win 10.

--
Duncan.

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Dave Doe" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, , SC Tom says...
>>
>> "Dave Doe" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Wondering how one achieves this.
>> >
>> > In Windows 8, you can set the power up/down to perform without
>> > 'special' hybernation. (After time, the OS seem to need clean undies).
>> >
>> > Is this an option in Windows 10? It seems to be absent, yet I think
>> > hybrid hypernation is 'set' - as the boot/reboot time is pretty quick -
>> > as in, too quick to be true.
>> >
>> > ???
>> >
>> >
>> CAP from a January post:
>>
>> "It does, and you can turn it off the same way as in Win8/8.1.
>>
>> Go to Control Panel . . . Power Options. Click on "Choose what the power
>> buttons do." Click on "Change settings that are currently unavailable"
>> near
>> the top of the page, then uncheck "Turn on fast startup (recommended)"
>> under the Shutdown settings. Save Changes and that's it.
>>
>> I have fast startup disabled on both my Win8.1 and Win10 setups (separate
>> HDD in the same machine) and see hardly any difference in boot-up times
>> as
>> opposed to when it is enabled."
>
> Actually, re-reading that, no I don't have that option. If I click on
> "change settings that are currently available", all I get is a "lock"
> checkbox at the bottom.
>
> In Win8, I'd see the turn off fast startup - but not on my Win 10.
>
I do on mine. That's where I turned it off. I did that on the first build
and it would be reinstated with each new one, so I'd turn it off again. I
forgot until I read your post that I had just installed the latest build and
hadn't turned it off. I actually had to go back to the post I copied to
remember how, and it was still the same as the earlier builds, and in Win
8/8.1. Did you click on the "Change settings that are currently unavailable"
line? You may need to be admin; not sure about that since I am.
--
SC Tom

[Dave Doe]

In article >, , SC Tom says...
>
> "Dave Doe" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, , SC Tom says...
> >>
> >> "Dave Doe" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Wondering how one achieves this.
> >> >
> >> > In Windows 8, you can set the power up/down to perform without
> >> > 'special' hybernation. (After time, the OS seem to need clean undies).
> >> >
> >> > Is this an option in Windows 10? It seems to be absent, yet I think
> >> > hybrid hypernation is 'set' - as the boot/reboot time is pretty quick -
> >> > as in, too quick to be true.
> >> >
> >> > ???
> >> >
> >> >
> >> CAP from a January post:
> >>
> >> "It does, and you can turn it off the same way as in Win8/8.1.
> >>
> >> Go to Control Panel . . . Power Options. Click on "Choose what the power
> >> buttons do." Click on "Change settings that are currently unavailable"
> >> near
> >> the top of the page, then uncheck "Turn on fast startup (recommended)"
> >> under the Shutdown settings. Save Changes and that's it.
> >>
> >> I have fast startup disabled on both my Win8.1 and Win10 setups (separate
> >> HDD in the same machine) and see hardly any difference in boot-up times
> >> as
> >> opposed to when it is enabled."
> >
> > Actually, re-reading that, no I don't have that option. If I click on
> > "change settings that are currently available", all I get is a "lock"
> > checkbox at the bottom.
> >
> > In Win8, I'd see the turn off fast startup - but not on my Win 10.
> >
> I do on mine. That's where I turned it off. I did that on the first build
> and it would be reinstated with each new one, so I'd turn it off again. I
> forgot until I read your post that I had just installed the latest build and
> hadn't turned it off. I actually had to go back to the post I copied to
> remember how, and it was still the same as the earlier builds, and in Win
> 8/8.1. Did you click on the "Change settings that are currently unavailable"
> line? You may need to be admin; not sure about that since I am.

Aren't we all Admins in the Tech Preview by default install? I am.
There's surely no 'run as admin' required for power settings - any
elevation would be notified - and I'd have accepted it.
I just don't have that setting. Happy to post a SS.

--
Duncan.

[Disguised]

On 22-Mar-2015 23:24, SC Tom wrote:
>
>
> "Dave Doe" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >, , SC Tom says...
>>>
>>> "Dave Doe" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > Wondering how one achieves this.
>>> >
>>> > In Windows 8, you can set the power up/down to perform without
>>> > 'special' hybernation. (After time, the OS seem to need clean undies).
>>> >
>>> > Is this an option in Windows 10? It seems to be absent, yet I think
>>> > hybrid hypernation is 'set' - as the boot/reboot time is pretty quick -
>>> > as in, too quick to be true.
>>> >
>>> > ???
>>> >
>>> >
>>> CAP from a January post:
>>>
>>> "It does, and you can turn it off the same way as in Win8/8.1.
>>>
>>> Go to Control Panel . . . Power Options. Click on "Choose what the power
>>> buttons do." Click on "Change settings that are currently
>>> unavailable" near
>>> the top of the page, then uncheck "Turn on fast startup (recommended)"
>>> under the Shutdown settings. Save Changes and that's it.
>>>
>>> I have fast startup disabled on both my Win8.1 and Win10 setups
>>> (separate
>>> HDD in the same machine) and see hardly any difference in boot-up
>>> times as
>>> opposed to when it is enabled."
>>
>> Actually, re-reading that, no I don't have that option. If I click on
>> "change settings that are currently available", all I get is a "lock"
>> checkbox at the bottom.
>>
>> In Win8, I'd see the turn off fast startup - but not on my Win 10.
>>
> I do on mine. That's where I turned it off. I did that on the first
> build and it would be reinstated with each new one, so I'd turn it off
> again. I forgot until I read your post that I had just installed the
> latest build and hadn't turned it off. I actually had to go back to the
> post I copied to remember how, and it was still the same as the earlier
> builds, and in Win 8/8.1. Did you click on the "Change settings that are
> currently unavailable" line? You may need to be admin; not sure about
> that since I am.

I have WP 10 build 10041 installed in VMware and the only options avail
are: *Sleep* and *Lock*

[SC Tom[_3_]]

"Dave Doe" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, , SC Tom says...
>>
>> "Dave Doe" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >, , SC Tom says...
>> >>
>> >> "Dave Doe" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > Wondering how one achieves this.
>> >> >
>> >> > In Windows 8, you can set the power up/down to perform without
>> >> > 'special' hybernation. (After time, the OS seem to need clean
>> >> > undies).
>> >> >
>> >> > Is this an option in Windows 10? It seems to be absent, yet I think
>> >> > hybrid hypernation is 'set' - as the boot/reboot time is pretty
>> >> > quick -
>> >> > as in, too quick to be true.
>> >> >
>> >> > ???
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> CAP from a January post:
>> >>
>> >> "It does, and you can turn it off the same way as in Win8/8.1.
>> >>
>> >> Go to Control Panel . . . Power Options. Click on "Choose what the
>> >> power
>> >> buttons do." Click on "Change settings that are currently unavailable"
>> >> near
>> >> the top of the page, then uncheck "Turn on fast startup (recommended)"
>> >> under the Shutdown settings. Save Changes and that's it.
>> >>
>> >> I have fast startup disabled on both my Win8.1 and Win10 setups
>> >> (separate
>> >> HDD in the same machine) and see hardly any difference in boot-up
>> >> times
>> >> as
>> >> opposed to when it is enabled."
>> >
>> > Actually, re-reading that, no I don't have that option. If I click on
>> > "change settings that are currently available", all I get is a "lock"
>> > checkbox at the bottom.
>> >
>> > In Win8, I'd see the turn off fast startup - but not on my Win 10.
>> >
>> I do on mine. That's where I turned it off. I did that on the first build
>> and it would be reinstated with each new one, so I'd turn it off again. I
>> forgot until I read your post that I had just installed the latest build
>> and
>> hadn't turned it off. I actually had to go back to the post I copied to
>> remember how, and it was still the same as the earlier builds, and in Win
>> 8/8.1. Did you click on the "Change settings that are currently
>> unavailable"
>> line? You may need to be admin; not sure about that since I am.
>
> Aren't we all Admins in the Tech Preview by default install? I am.
> There's surely no 'run as admin' required for power settings - any
> elevation would be notified - and I'd have accepted it.
> I just don't have that setting. Happy to post a SS.
>

I would think so. I believe you- just telling you how I did it. Here's what
mine looks like:

<http://tinypic.com/m/iml3lx/3>

Don't know what else I can say :-(
--
SC Tom

[Paul]

Disguised wrote:
> On 22-Mar-2015 23:24, SC Tom wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Dave Doe" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In article >, , SC Tom says...
>>>>
>>>> "Dave Doe" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> > Wondering how one achieves this.
>>>> >
>>>> > In Windows 8, you can set the power up/down to perform without
>>>> > 'special' hybernation. (After time, the OS seem to need clean
>>>> undies).
>>>> >
>>>> > Is this an option in Windows 10? It seems to be absent, yet I think
>>>> > hybrid hypernation is 'set' - as the boot/reboot time is pretty
>>>> quick -
>>>> > as in, too quick to be true.
>>>> >
>>>> > ???
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> CAP from a January post:
>>>>
>>>> "It does, and you can turn it off the same way as in Win8/8.1.
>>>>
>>>> Go to Control Panel . . . Power Options. Click on "Choose what the
>>>> power
>>>> buttons do." Click on "Change settings that are currently
>>>> unavailable" near
>>>> the top of the page, then uncheck "Turn on fast startup (recommended)"
>>>> under the Shutdown settings. Save Changes and that's it.
>>>>
>>>> I have fast startup disabled on both my Win8.1 and Win10 setups
>>>> (separate
>>>> HDD in the same machine) and see hardly any difference in boot-up
>>>> times as
>>>> opposed to when it is enabled."
>>>
>>> Actually, re-reading that, no I don't have that option. If I click on
>>> "change settings that are currently available", all I get is a "lock"
>>> checkbox at the bottom.
>>>
>>> In Win8, I'd see the turn off fast startup - but not on my Win 10.
>>>
>> I do on mine. That's where I turned it off. I did that on the first
>> build and it would be reinstated with each new one, so I'd turn it off
>> again. I forgot until I read your post that I had just installed the
>> latest build and hadn't turned it off. I actually had to go back to the
>> post I copied to remember how, and it was still the same as the earlier
>> builds, and in Win 8/8.1. Did you click on the "Change settings that are
>> currently unavailable" line? You may need to be admin; not sure about
>> that since I am.
>
> I have WP 10 build 10041 installed in VMware and the only options avail
> are: *Sleep* and *Lock*

Maybe you could use the "powercfg" utility to get more info ?

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/PowerCfgTheHiddenEnergyAndBatteryToolForWindowsYou reNotUsing.aspx

It's pretty hard to tell what it's good for, from the help page.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh824902.aspx

The features might also vary as a function of the Power Schema
selected in the Power control panel. Or, the list of supported
options could change if you'd done a "powercfg -h off" at
some point, which turns off Hibernate and Fast Start. As it
prevents usage of a hibernate state, and is good for
multi-boot users (like me).

Paul

[T]

On 03/23/2015 04:01 AM, Disguised wrote:
>
> I have WP 10 build 10041 installed in VMware and the only options avail
> are: *Sleep* and *Lock*

On my VM (KVM), I do not even have those options. That is
because my fake hardware does not include the stuff
necessary for the guest to do power management. This
is normal.