Advice on Windows 10

[Peter Jason]

When it comes to installing this, is it better to buy a new HDD & load
Windows 10 on to this & then reload programs & transfer data....

or better to upgrade directly on to my existing Windows 7?

I'd prefer to upgrade because I have umpteen programs & tons of data.

Peter

[Paul]

Peter Jason wrote:
> When it comes to installing this, is it better to buy a new HDD & load
> Windows 10 on to this & then reload programs & transfer data....
>
> or better to upgrade directly on to my existing Windows 7?
>
> I'd prefer to upgrade because I have umpteen programs & tons of data.
>
> Peter

Take a new drive, clone Windows 7 from existing drive,
upgrade Win7 clone disk to Win10. Combining both
of your ideas.

Paul

[. . .winston]

Peter Jason wrote:
> When it comes to installing this, is it better to buy a new HDD & load
> Windows 10 on to this & then reload programs & transfer data....
>
> or better to upgrade directly on to my existing Windows 7?
>
> I'd prefer to upgrade because I have umpteen programs & tons of data.
>
> Peter
>
Unless you follow Paul's advice your two questions will yield two
different economic scenarios - the second free, the first will require a
contribution from your pocketbook.



--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

[Roderick Stewart]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:05:19 +1000, Peter Jason > wrote:

>When it comes to installing this, is it better to buy a new HDD & load
>Windows 10 on to this & then reload programs & transfer data....
>
>or better to upgrade directly on to my existing Windows 7?

Best to keep Windows 7. It'll be another 5 years before they stop
supporting it, and by that time there may be something better with
which to replace it. In the meantime, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Rod.

[philo]

On 04/28/2015 08:05 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
> When it comes to installing this, is it better to buy a new HDD & load
> Windows 10 on to this & then reload programs & transfer data....
>
> or better to upgrade directly on to my existing Windows 7?
>
> I'd prefer to upgrade because I have umpteen programs & tons of data.
>
> Peter
>



Windows 10 has not been released yet.

What is available now is a pre-release version

[Big_Al[_4_]]

Peter Jason wrote on 4/28/2015 9:05 PM:
> When it comes to installing this, is it better to buy a new HDD & load
> Windows 10 on to this & then reload programs & transfer data....
>
> or better to upgrade directly on to my existing Windows 7?
>
> I'd prefer to upgrade because I have umpteen programs & tons of data.
>
> Peter
>
And possible the last suggestion:
I prefer a fresh reload. It's a bother I'm sure, but something like ninite might help in getting most of the initial
programs loaded.
If you have the money, a new drive does make it easy to do the reload without killing Windows 7. Then again, if you
had space you could shrink Windows 7 and dual boot Windows 10. Run them side by side and slowly migrate programs and
data. I did that with win7->win8.

[T]

On 04/28/2015 06:31 PM, Paul wrote:
> Peter Jason wrote:
>> When it comes to installing this, is it better to buy a new HDD & load
>> Windows 10 on to this & then reload programs & transfer data....
>>
>> or better to upgrade directly on to my existing Windows 7?
>>
>> I'd prefer to upgrade because I have umpteen programs & tons of data.
>>
>> Peter
>
> Take a new drive, clone Windows 7 from existing drive,
> upgrade Win7 clone disk to Win10. Combining both
> of your ideas.
>
> Paul



Hi Peter,

First, wait for the general release of Windows Nein,
sorry, Windows 10.

It depends. Is there some particular reason why to leave
Windows 7? Windows 10 is only going to be more buggy
and a lot more confounding.

If your really want to move to 10, Paul's advice it good. It
give you a fall back. Plus hard drives do wear out and starting
over on your useful life span is a good idea.

If wiping is the question, sometimes that is a good idea, as
it removes all the sins of past. You will have to reinstall
everything (you still use) and you may have to purchase new
editions to get it to work under Nein. Also, some older
software might not be available.

The upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 "seems" (watch
the weasel words) like it will work okay. It would save
all you stuff, including Junkware and Malware (viruses).
Well, stuff that also works under 10. Be careful, you
may lose something you really rely on.

So, lay out your reasons for staying with 7 and your
reason for upgrading to Nein (10). Weight the pro
and cons. You can also run them by us if you like.
(If you haven't noticed, we do tend to run at the
mouth somewhat, but not me!)

-T

[Peter Jason]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:02:38 -0700, T > wrote:

>On 04/28/2015 06:31 PM, Paul wrote:
>> Peter Jason wrote:
>>> When it comes to installing this, is it better to buy a new HDD & load
>>> Windows 10 on to this & then reload programs & transfer data....
>>>
>>> or better to upgrade directly on to my existing Windows 7?
>>>
>>> I'd prefer to upgrade because I have umpteen programs & tons of data.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>
>> Take a new drive, clone Windows 7 from existing drive,
>> upgrade Win7 clone disk to Win10. Combining both
>> of your ideas.
>>
>> Paul
>
>
>
>Hi Peter,
>
>First, wait for the general release of Windows Nein,
>sorry, Windows 10.
>
>It depends. Is there some particular reason why to leave
>Windows 7? Windows 10 is only going to be more buggy
>and a lot more confounding.
>
>If your really want to move to 10, Paul's advice it good. It
>give you a fall back. Plus hard drives do wear out and starting
>over on your useful life span is a good idea.
>
>If wiping is the question, sometimes that is a good idea, as
>it removes all the sins of past. You will have to reinstall
>everything (you still use) and you may have to purchase new
>editions to get it to work under Nein. Also, some older
>software might not be available.
>
>The upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 "seems" (watch
>the weasel words) like it will work okay. It would save
>all you stuff, including Junkware and Malware (viruses).
>Well, stuff that also works under 10. Be careful, you
>may lose something you really rely on.
>
>So, lay out your reasons for staying with 7 and your
>reason for upgrading to Nein (10). Weight the pro
>and cons. You can also run them by us if you like.
>(If you haven't noticed, we do tend to run at the
>mouth somewhat, but not me!)
>
>-T
>
Thanks, I have a Seagate "surveillance" HDD as my system drive because
they're supposed to be more rugged (military grade?) and it cost a
lot.
I'll probably clone this drive to another, then wipe it, then install
Win10 on it. Does MS have a site to see if Win7 programs will work
on Win10? Peter

[. . .winston]

Roderick Stewart wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:05:19 +1000, Peter Jason > wrote:
>
>> When it comes to installing this, is it better to buy a new HDD & load
>> Windows 10 on to this & then reload programs & transfer data....
>>
>> or better to upgrade directly on to my existing Windows 7?
>
> Best to keep Windows 7. It'll be another 5 years before they stop
> supporting it, and by that time there may be something better with
> which to replace it. In the meantime, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>
> Rod.
>
In 5 years the replacement will be Windows 10.0.5

--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

[Paul]

Peter Jason wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:02:38 -0700, T > wrote:
>
>> On 04/28/2015 06:31 PM, Paul wrote:
>>> Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> When it comes to installing this, is it better to buy a new HDD & load
>>>> Windows 10 on to this & then reload programs & transfer data....
>>>>
>>>> or better to upgrade directly on to my existing Windows 7?
>>>>
>>>> I'd prefer to upgrade because I have umpteen programs & tons of data.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>> Take a new drive, clone Windows 7 from existing drive,
>>> upgrade Win7 clone disk to Win10. Combining both
>>> of your ideas.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> First, wait for the general release of Windows Nein,
>> sorry, Windows 10.
>>
>> It depends. Is there some particular reason why to leave
>> Windows 7? Windows 10 is only going to be more buggy
>> and a lot more confounding.
>>
>> If your really want to move to 10, Paul's advice it good. It
>> give you a fall back. Plus hard drives do wear out and starting
>> over on your useful life span is a good idea.
>>
>> If wiping is the question, sometimes that is a good idea, as
>> it removes all the sins of past. You will have to reinstall
>> everything (you still use) and you may have to purchase new
>> editions to get it to work under Nein. Also, some older
>> software might not be available.
>>
>> The upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 "seems" (watch
>> the weasel words) like it will work okay. It would save
>> all you stuff, including Junkware and Malware (viruses).
>> Well, stuff that also works under 10. Be careful, you
>> may lose something you really rely on.
>>
>> So, lay out your reasons for staying with 7 and your
>> reason for upgrading to Nein (10). Weight the pro
>> and cons. You can also run them by us if you like.
>> (If you haven't noticed, we do tend to run at the
>> mouth somewhat, but not me!)
>>
>> -T
>>
> Thanks, I have a Seagate "surveillance" HDD as my system drive because
> they're supposed to be more rugged (military grade?) and it cost a
> lot.
> I'll probably clone this drive to another, then wipe it, then install
> Win10 on it. Does MS have a site to see if Win7 programs will work
> on Win10? Peter

If the installation logic on the new (Preview) DVD is working,
then it should run the Upgrade Assistant as the first step.
I understand that they might be using the Windows 8.1 Assistant
for the Windows 10 DVD. You can probably find the 8.1 Assistant
as a separate download. There's no reason for Win10 to have
an Assistant offered separately quite yet.

"Windows 8.1 Upgrade Assistant"
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=261871

The Assistant usually has pretty steep .NET requirements,
so you would not expect that download to run on a WinXP setup.
It's possible it'll run on Windows 7. Try it and see.

More trivia here.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/upgrade-assistant-download-online-faq

Paul

[Roderick Stewart]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:53:41 -0400, ". . .winston"
> wrote:

>>> When it comes to installing this, is it better to buy a new HDD & load
>>> Windows 10 on to this & then reload programs & transfer data....
>>>
>>> or better to upgrade directly on to my existing Windows 7?
>>
>> Best to keep Windows 7. It'll be another 5 years before they stop
>> supporting it, and by that time there may be something better with
>> which to replace it. In the meantime, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>>
>> Rod.
>>
>In 5 years the replacement will be Windows 10.0.5

Or Linux Mint 22.

Rod.

[Ann O'Nyme]

On 30/04/2015 11:45, Roderick Stewart wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:53:41 -0400, ". . .winston"
> > wrote:
>
>>>> When it comes to installing this, is it better to buy a new HDD & load
>>>> Windows 10 on to this & then reload programs & transfer data....
>>>>
>>>> or better to upgrade directly on to my existing Windows 7?
>>>
>>> Best to keep Windows 7. It'll be another 5 years before they stop
>>> supporting it, and by that time there may be something better with
>>> which to replace it. In the meantime, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>>>
>>> Rod.
>>>
>> In 5 years the replacement will be Windows 10.0.5
>
> Or Linux Mint 22.
>

Dream on. Others were making similar predictions 5 years ago. Their
fantasy OSes don't even exist now. But its good to dream.