my Windows 10 Technical Preview

[Lynn McGuire]

OK, I was a good software developer this week and installed Windows 10
Technical preview on my new 480 GB SSD. I ran with it for a day,
installed our software and tested it, and fragged that Windows 10 piece
of crap off my pc. I am back on Windows 7 x64 Ultimate with all my stuff
reinstalled and plenty of breathing room.

Windows 10 is just Windows 8 with pretty lipstick. Real pretty lipstick,
on a pig. The start button brings up this huge window (half of my 27
inch monitor) of your preferred apps, all your apps and about a dozen
postage stamp sized windows that are constantly changing (weather,
stocks, etc). I also do not like the new razor thin window margins as I
have to look twice (or thrice) to see where one window ends and another
window starts. And who is the moron who decided to alphabetize all the
apps with an ABC list? If you are going to alphabetize, just do it and
do not put A, B, C, …

The install of Windows 10 was marginally better than Windows 7 since I
did not have to load my motherboard CD to get internet, etc.

The EOL of Windows 7 is January 14 of 2020. I suspect that we will see
this date together, me and my old fashioned buddy, Windows 7 x64. Ultimate.

I cannot remember if I posted this before but here it again:

“Windows 10 won’t save the PC”
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2914152/microsoft-windows/windows-10-wont-save-the-pc.html

“Let me be clear: Windows 10 is a decent OS. Its problem is that it only
partially repairs the damage done by Windows 8 while offering no
compelling capabilities for those who wisely skipped Windows 8. That
means demand will be low, both as OS upgrades and — more critical — for
new PCs running it. Basically, if you have a decent Windows 7 PC, you’re
fine as is.”

Lynn

[Big_Al[_4_]]

Lynn McGuire wrote on 5/2/2015 9:19 PM:
> OK, I was a good software developer this week and installed Windows 10 Technical preview on my new 480 GB SSD. I ran
> with it for a day, installed our software and tested it, and fragged that Windows 10 piece of crap off my pc. I am back
> on Windows 7 x64 Ultimate with all my stuff reinstalled and plenty of breathing room.
>
> Windows 10 is just Windows 8 with pretty lipstick. Real pretty lipstick, on a pig. The start button brings up this huge
> window (half of my 27 inch monitor) of your preferred apps, all your apps and about a dozen postage stamp sized windows
> that are constantly changing (weather, stocks, etc). I also do not like the new razor thin window margins as I have to
> look twice (or thrice) to see where one window ends and another window starts. And who is the moron who decided to
> alphabetize all the apps with an ABC list? If you are going to alphabetize, just do it and do not put A, B, C, …
>
> The install of Windows 10 was marginally better than Windows 7 since I did not have to load my motherboard CD to get
> internet, etc.
>
> The EOL of Windows 7 is January 14 of 2020. I suspect that we will see this date together, me and my old fashioned
> buddy, Windows 7 x64. Ultimate.
>
> I cannot remember if I posted this before but here it again:
>
> “Windows 10 won’t save the PC”
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/2914152/microsoft-windows/windows-10-wont-save-the-pc.html
>
> “Let me be clear: Windows 10 is a decent OS. Its problem is that it only partially repairs the damage done by Windows 8
> while offering no compelling capabilities for those who wisely skipped Windows 8. That means demand will be low, both as
> OS upgrades and — more critical — for new PCs running it. Basically, if you have a decent Windows 7 PC, you’re fine as is.”
>
> Lynn
You can unpin from start menu all or any of those apps. If you unpin all of them, you wind up with a slim semi-windows
7 style menu. Still it's not as good, but not as gaudy as what they ship it with.

[Paul]

Lynn McGuire wrote:
> OK, I was a good software developer this week and installed Windows 10
> Technical preview on my new 480 GB SSD. I ran with it for a day,
> installed our software and tested it, and fragged that Windows 10 piece
> of crap off my pc. I am back on Windows 7 x64 Ultimate with all my stuff
> reinstalled and plenty of breathing room.
>
> Windows 10 is just Windows 8 with pretty lipstick. Real pretty lipstick,
> on a pig. The start button brings up this huge window (half of my 27
> inch monitor) of your preferred apps, all your apps and about a dozen
> postage stamp sized windows that are constantly changing (weather,
> stocks, etc). I also do not like the new razor thin window margins as I
> have to look twice (or thrice) to see where one window ends and another
> window starts. And who is the moron who decided to alphabetize all the
> apps with an ABC list? If you are going to alphabetize, just do it and
> do not put A, B, C, …
>
> The install of Windows 10 was marginally better than Windows 7 since I
> did not have to load my motherboard CD to get internet, etc.
>
> The EOL of Windows 7 is January 14 of 2020. I suspect that we will see
> this date together, me and my old fashioned buddy, Windows 7 x64. Ultimate.
>
> I cannot remember if I posted this before but here it again:
>
> “Windows 10 won’t save the PC”
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/2914152/microsoft-windows/windows-10-wont-save-the-pc.html
>
>
> “Let me be clear: Windows 10 is a decent OS. Its problem is that it only
> partially repairs the damage done by Windows 8 while offering no
> compelling capabilities for those who wisely skipped Windows 8. That
> means demand will be low, both as OS upgrades and — more critical — for
> new PCs running it. Basically, if you have a decent Windows 7 PC, you’re
> fine as is.”
>
> Lynn

If you have Windows 7, at this point there is no reason
to even be interested in Windows 10.

(I hope you hid the update that greases the rails for
the Win10 upgrade :-) There was a Windows Update file
recently, that added some things, and at this point,
they haven't been activated.)

Greasing the rails...

http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-updates-activation/365788-update-enables-additional-capabilities-windows-broken.html#post3035831

"Looks like these new functions will be enabled
----------
151 Get Windows 10
152 Get Windows 7 SP1
153 Get Windows 8.1
154 Show &Advertisements
155 Show &Compatibility Report
156 E&xit
157 Install &Now
158 &Version
159 &Help
160 &Reserve your free upgrade
161 Get to know &Windows 10
162 Go to Windows &Update
163 &Check your upgrade status
164 &Unreserve
165 &Get Windows 10
166 &Show reservation information

*******

However, as a developer, you know that Microsoft has a
habit of "coaxing you off the old OS", by making new
packages (Visual Studio) "require" some version of .NET
that won't run on your Windows 7. So while you can
pretend to sit back and relax, drink coffee until 2020,
there will be "people poking at you", one way or another,
to get you to upgrade.

On my Win2K installation, I was basically pretty happy
playing games there. Then, when WinXP came along,
Microsoft started putting kernel checks of some sort
into DirectX. I was successful at hex editing one of
those checks out, proving the checking being done
was purely to force me to upgrade. But the writing
was on the wall, and months later I had a copy of
WinXP.

Just about every "camp" of users, Microsoft has a
"wedge" to use against them.

As for Windows 10, i have nothing against the interface.
If you don't like it, one of the replacement shells
such as ClassicShell, can bring back a different menu.
And I certainly agree, that the alphabetized menu is
a disaster. I've been navigating to "Program Files" and
running programs from there :-) What worries me more
about Windows 10, is whether the ineffectual nature of
Task Manager in Windows 8, will be fixed in Windows 10.
And I don't see any obvious visual clues that it's
been changed. Task Manager seems to run as an ordinary
process, and it can either stop responding entirely
(time display stops updating), or it can lapse into
a state where any form of HID input to the Task Manager
pane, might as well not even exist. On Windows 8,
I had to hit the power button a couple times, because
of "ordinary" (not gaming) problems. If you exhaust
the Pool memory, it makes the OS "very angry".

Paul

[Andy Burns[_3_]]

Lynn McGuire wrote:

> I also do not like the new razor thin window margins

I don't like the too thick borders on Win8.x, unlike every version of
windows since time immemorial you can't change them via the GUI,
thankfully the settings under HKCU\Control Panel\Desktop\Window Metrics
still allow you to alter the thickness - do they still work in Win10?

[. . .winston]

Lynn McGuire wrote:
> OK, I was a good software developer this week and installed Windows 10
> Technical preview on my new 480 GB SSD. I ran with it for a day,
> installed our software and tested it, and fragged that Windows 10 piece
> of crap off my pc. I am back on Windows 7 x64 Ultimate with all my stuff
> reinstalled and plenty of breathing room.
>
> Windows 10 is just Windows 8 with pretty lipstick. Real pretty lipstick,
> on a pig. The start button brings up this huge window (half of my 27
> inch monitor) of your preferred apps, all your apps and about a dozen
> postage stamp sized windows that are constantly changing (weather,
> stocks, etc). I also do not like the new razor thin window margins as I
> have to look twice (or thrice) to see where one window ends and another
> window starts. And who is the moron who decided to alphabetize all the
> apps with an ABC list? If you are going to alphabetize, just do it and
> do not put A, B, C, …
>
> The install of Windows 10 was marginally better than Windows 7 since I
> did not have to load my motherboard CD to get internet, etc.
>
> The EOL of Windows 7 is January 14 of 2020. I suspect that we will see
> this date together, me and my old fashioned buddy, Windows 7 x64. Ultimate.
>
> I cannot remember if I posted this before but here it again:
>
> “Windows 10 won’t save the PC”
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/2914152/microsoft-windows/windows-10-wont-save-the-pc.html
>
>
> “Let me be clear: Windows 10 is a decent OS. Its problem is that it only
> partially repairs the damage done by Windows 8 while offering no
> compelling capabilities for those who wisely skipped Windows 8. That
> means demand will be low, both as OS upgrades and — more critical — for
> new PCs running it. Basically, if you have a decent Windows 7 PC, you’re
> fine as is.”
>
> Lynn

The ABC list has been common on a few other MSFT app or web UI services.
It was actually one of the most requested options for the web UI People
(Contact) UI quite some time ago.

Also not too far from a similar approach (column of alphabet) on some
smart devices (e.g. music album storage)...some of those devices
continue to be the benchmark.

Win7 will survive as viable o/s until is EOL, but the future will be
more Win10 like than Win7 like.

Win10 is still an unfinished product thus imo it would be premature to
discard it today based on what is currently avaialable.

--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

[Michael Logies]

On Sun, 03 May 2015 03:33:45 -0400, ". . .winston"
> wrote:

>Also not too far from a similar approach (column of alphabet) on some
>smart devices (e.g. music album storage)...

My Samsung Ace3 (Android 4.2.2) organizes its App along a alphabetic
column (one of 3 options). This column is interactive. I can jump to
apps starting with the touched letter. Gliding on the column magnifies
the touched letter. Is this possible with Win 10 on the desktop? Or on
Windows Phone 10?
Screenshots of that feature on the Ace3:
https://plus.google.com/photos/114072187707025361516/albums/6144568483025882881

Thanks

M.

[Big_Al[_4_]]

.. . .winston wrote on 5/3/2015 3:33 AM:
>
> Win10 is still an unfinished product thus imo it would be premature to discard it today based on what is currently
> avaialable.

I was fast to poo poo Windows 8 when the previews came out. They were focused on the metro screen and the first
download I ran on a VM with the wrong res screen making the metro screen even worse. Of about 6 close computer friends,
I was the only one to see and play with it for a month or so and I hated it. I advised them all to stay away and MS had
done it's worst turn in programming.

I love windows 8.1 now. I've been using it for years now and have minimal to no complaints with it. I can understand
that Windows 10 may mellow out a bit, not change drastic, but mellow. And then there are the 3rd party tools that will
follow, so who knows.

[Disguised]

On 03-May-2015 07:29, Big_Al wrote:
> . . .winston wrote on 5/3/2015 3:33 AM:
>>
>> Win10 is still an unfinished product thus imo it would be premature to
>> discard it today based on what is currently
>> avaialable.
>
> I was fast to poo poo Windows 8 when the previews came out. They were
> focused on the metro screen and the first download I ran on a VM with
> the wrong res screen making the metro screen even worse. Of about 6
> close computer friends, I was the only one to see and play with it for a
> month or so and I hated it. I advised them all to stay away and MS had
> done it's worst turn in programming.
>
> I love windows 8.1 now. I've been using it for years now and have
> minimal to no complaints with it. I can understand that Windows 10 may
> mellow out a bit, not change drastic, but mellow. And then there are
> the 3rd party tools that will follow, so who knows.
>

....and the sky is not falling after all. :-)

[Big_Al[_4_]]

Disguised wrote on 5/3/2015 10:06 AM:
> On 03-May-2015 07:29, Big_Al wrote:
>> . . .winston wrote on 5/3/2015 3:33 AM:
>>>
>>> Win10 is still an unfinished product thus imo it would be premature to
>>> discard it today based on what is currently
>>> avaialable.
>>
>> I was fast to poo poo Windows 8 when the previews came out. They were
>> focused on the metro screen and the first download I ran on a VM with
>> the wrong res screen making the metro screen even worse. Of about 6
>> close computer friends, I was the only one to see and play with it for a
>> month or so and I hated it. I advised them all to stay away and MS had
>> done it's worst turn in programming.
>>
>> I love windows 8.1 now. I've been using it for years now and have
>> minimal to no complaints with it. I can understand that Windows 10 may
>> mellow out a bit, not change drastic, but mellow. And then there are
>> the 3rd party tools that will follow, so who knows.
>>
>
> ...and the sky is not falling after all. :-)
:-) +1