Windows 10 download strangeness, comments please.

[Mike Swift]

I agreed to download Windows 10 but thought I could then wait until a
time of my choosing to instal.

Last night before I went to bed I switched to my wife's account as
normal and happened to notice Windows 10 was downloading, I didn't want
to interrupt so stuck with it for 45 minutes, it then gave me the choice
of starting the upgrade immediately or waiting one or two days only.

I chose Saturday so I could ask here if this was normal, this morning
I've got a message that to instal I need to reboot, I would rather wait
a while before updating so any problems could be sorted out.

Is this route normal, is there a way to postpone the update, any
comments would be appreciated.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange

[P Robson]

I didn't agree to download W10 but that didn't stop it!

Stop auto updates in Windows 7 go to:

Control Panel

Windows Update

Change settings

under "Important updates"
choose "Download updates but let me choose whether to install them"

You then can select the updates you want.

"Mike Swift" wrote in message ...


I agreed to download Windows 10 but thought I could then wait until a
time of my choosing to instal.

Last night before I went to bed I switched to my wife's account as
normal and happened to notice Windows 10 was downloading, I didn't want
to interrupt so stuck with it for 45 minutes, it then gave me the choice
of starting the upgrade immediately or waiting one or two days only.

I chose Saturday so I could ask here if this was normal, this morning
I've got a message that to instal I need to reboot, I would rather wait
a while before updating so any problems could be sorted out.

Is this route normal, is there a way to postpone the update, any
comments would be appreciated.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange

[Mike Swift]

In article >, P Robson
> writes
>I didn't agree to download W10 but that didn't stop it!
>
>Stop auto updates in Windows 7 go to:
>
>Control Panel
>
>Windows Update
>
>Change settings
>
>under "Important updates"
>choose "Download updates but let me choose whether to install them"
>
>You then can select the updates you want.

Cheers, that's how I'm set up but the 10 download didn't appear in the
updates.

I assumed, wrongly, that the 10 update would download and there would be
an icon to click if and when I decided to instal.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange

[Paul]

Mike Swift wrote:
> In article >, P Robson
> > writes
>> I didn't agree to download W10 but that didn't stop it!
>>
>> Stop auto updates in Windows 7 go to:
>>
>> Control Panel
>>
>> Windows Update
>>
>> Change settings
>>
>> under "Important updates"
>> choose "Download updates but let me choose whether to install them"
>>
>> You then can select the updates you want.
>
> Cheers, that's how I'm set up but the 10 download didn't appear in the
> updates.
>
> I assumed, wrongly, that the 10 update would download and there would be
> an icon to click if and when I decided to instal.
>
> Mike
>

If it is asking you to reboot, it has probably done the
copy phase already. See if your C: has

C:\Windows
C:\Windows.old

as that would be evidence an upgrade install was
in progress.

At this point, you can do whatever you want, once it
is finished.

1) If the install fails, it rolls back.
2) If the install succeeds, you can undo it.
There is a "GUI way" to undo it in the
next 30 days. After 30 days, C:\Windows.old
is automatically erased.

It's better to have a backup before it begins,
but the nature of the installer has improved.
On one of the previous modern Windows, you could
"get stuck" during the final reboot, and it
couldn't roll back. As far as I know, the
rollback logic is better now. And it can roll
back much later in the process.

HTH,
Paul

[Mike Swift]

In article >, Paul > writes
>> I assumed, wrongly, that the 10 update would download and there would be
>> an icon to click if and when I decided to instal.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>If it is asking you to reboot, it has probably done the
>copy phase already. See if your C: has
>
> C:\Windows
> C:\Windows.old
>
>as that would be evidence an upgrade install was
>in progress.
>
>At this point, you can do whatever you want, once it
>is finished.
>
>1) If the install fails, it rolls back.
>2) If the install succeeds, you can undo it.
> There is a "GUI way" to undo it in the
> next 30 days. After 30 days, C:\Windows.old
> is automatically erased.
>
>It's better to have a backup before it begins,
>but the nature of the installer has improved.
>On one of the previous modern Windows, you could
>"get stuck" during the final reboot, and it
>couldn't roll back. As far as I know, the
>rollback logic is better now. And it can roll
>back much later in the process.

Thanks for the reply, I think I've got it sussed now.

I bit the bullet and clicked the restart icon, came back to Windows 7,
nothing changed but the restart warning is still there.

Opened the Windows 10 icon and got :-

Reservation - Confirmed
Download - Complete
Upgrade - Available

Here's what happens next

1 Expect a 10 second preparation of your device
2 Review licence
3 Choose when to upgrade

OK LET'S CONTINUE

So I assume Windows 10 is somewhere on my hard drive and when I click OK
etc. I can upgrade.

I'm a bit confused as I've only ever done a clean instal in the past.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange

[Paul]

Mike Swift wrote:
> In article >, Paul > writes
>>> I assumed, wrongly, that the 10 update would download and there would be
>>> an icon to click if and when I decided to instal.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
>> If it is asking you to reboot, it has probably done the
>> copy phase already. See if your C: has
>>
>> C:\Windows
>> C:\Windows.old
>>
>> as that would be evidence an upgrade install was
>> in progress.
>>
>> At this point, you can do whatever you want, once it
>> is finished.
>>
>> 1) If the install fails, it rolls back.
>> 2) If the install succeeds, you can undo it.
>> There is a "GUI way" to undo it in the
>> next 30 days. After 30 days, C:\Windows.old
>> is automatically erased.
>>
>> It's better to have a backup before it begins,
>> but the nature of the installer has improved.
>> On one of the previous modern Windows, you could
>> "get stuck" during the final reboot, and it
>> couldn't roll back. As far as I know, the
>> rollback logic is better now. And it can roll
>> back much later in the process.
>
> Thanks for the reply, I think I've got it sussed now.
>
> I bit the bullet and clicked the restart icon, came back to Windows 7,
> nothing changed but the restart warning is still there.
>
> Opened the Windows 10 icon and got :-
>
> Reservation - Confirmed
> Download - Complete
> Upgrade - Available
>
> Here's what happens next
>
> 1 Expect a 10 second preparation of your device
> 2 Review licence
> 3 Choose when to upgrade
>
> OK LET'S CONTINUE
>
> So I assume Windows 10 is somewhere on my hard drive and when I click OK
> etc. I can upgrade.
>
> I'm a bit confused as I've only ever done a clean instal in the past.
>
> Mike
>

Check the size of C:\$WINDOWS.~BT folder.
If it is about 6GB in size, has an install.wim and install.esd
in there, then it's queued and ready to install.

You could look for a setup.exe in there, if you want to
initiate an Upgrade Install before the system
gets around to it.

If you were to use MediaCreationTool and attempt to make an ISO9660
on the same computer, the MediaCreationTool will erase
the C:\$WINDOWS.~BT , leaving a couple of tiny text files
in it. On my Win10 10240 machine, I've lost both C:\$WINDOWS.*
folder contents. Being "creative" at a time like this, does
not help matters :-) I have backup copies of the folders
in question, because I've played this Whack-a-Mole game
before with Microsoft :-)

Paul

[Mike Swift]

In article >, Paul > writes
>Check the size of C:\$WINDOWS.~BT folder.
>If it is about 6GB in size, has an install.wim and install.esd
>in there, then it's queued and ready to install.
>
>You could look for a setup.exe in there, if you want to
>initiate an Upgrade Install before the system
>gets around to it.
>
>If you were to use MediaCreationTool and attempt to make an ISO9660
>on the same computer, the MediaCreationTool will erase
>the C:\$WINDOWS.~BT , leaving a couple of tiny text files
>in it. On my Win10 10240 machine, I've lost both C:\$WINDOWS.*
>folder contents. Being "creative" at a time like this, does
>not help matters :-) I have backup copies of the folders
>in question, because I've played this Whack-a-Mole game
>before with Microsoft :-)

Spot on, I unhid the folder and it's 5.96 gig with the stuff you said,
also thanks for the warning about it being zapped.

Your post set to keep just in case old age dims the memory when I do
decide to upgrade :-)

Mike

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Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange

[Brian Gregory]

On 07/08/2015 10:24, Mike Swift wrote:
>
> I agreed to download Windows 10 but thought I could then wait until a
> time of my choosing to instal.
>
> Last night before I went to bed I switched to my wife's account as
> normal and happened to notice Windows 10 was downloading, I didn't want
> to interrupt so stuck with it for 45 minutes, it then gave me the choice
> of starting the upgrade immediately or waiting one or two days only.
>
> I chose Saturday so I could ask here if this was normal, this morning
> I've got a message that to instal I need to reboot, I would rather wait
> a while before updating so any problems could be sorted out.
>
> Is this route normal, is there a way to postpone the update, any
> comments would be appreciated.
>
> Mike
>

That's what happens.

YOu're not the only one. Lots of people thought they could choose a time
several months later but found it was actually a max of only several days.

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