10 over 7 or 8.1

[Drew[_8_]]

Is it just me or is 10 slower? Running a bleeding edge yr old Intel core
i5, 16gigs of ram, decent graphics... Win 10 definitely seems to be
slower and less responsive than win 7 pro on same equipment. Only added
software to core system is office 2014. Objective responses would be
appreciated. Curious as to why it might be slower? Boots definitely
slower and resumes slower as well.

[Sjouke Burry[_2_]]

On 10.08.15 2:00, Drew wrote:
> Is it just me or is 10 slower? Running a bleeding edge yr old Intel core
> i5, 16gigs of ram, decent graphics... Win 10 definitely seems to be
> slower and less responsive than win 7 pro on same equipment. Only added
> software to core system is office 2014. Objective responses would be
> appreciated. Curious as to why it might be slower? Boots definitely
> slower and resumes slower as well.
>
Each new WIN was slower than the previous one.
Things like transparent borders, re-re-re directed directories,
lots of extra control software, all eat the processor time
you would like to use.
So win3.1 on 486 felt faster than vista with a quad core.

Programmers can waste resources faster than hardware designers
can improve them.

[mechanic]

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 04:32:02 +0200, Sjouke Burry wrote:

> Programmers can waste resources faster than hardware designers
> can improve them.

Moore's Law works for hardware, not software, so in the end hardware
wins!

[Paul]

Drew wrote:
> Is it just me or is 10 slower? Running a bleeding edge yr old Intel core
> i5, 16gigs of ram, decent graphics... Win 10 definitely seems to be
> slower and less responsive than win 7 pro on same equipment. Only added
> software to core system is office 2014. Objective responses would be
> appreciated. Curious as to why it might be slower? Boots definitely
> slower and resumes slower as well.

Try this.

Notice something with a big delay on windows ?

Check Task Manager. Is the CPU pinned ? Nope, it's idle.

Check disk drive light.
Is the disk drive light flashing ? Nope.

what does that leave ?

Artificial delay.

And while there are a large number of things
you could try and adjust, my guess would be
you would be wasting your time trying.

Paul

[Brian Gregory]

On 10/08/2015 14:20, Paul wrote:
> Drew wrote:
>> Is it just me or is 10 slower? Running a bleeding edge yr old Intel
>> core i5, 16gigs of ram, decent graphics... Win 10 definitely seems to
>> be slower and less responsive than win 7 pro on same equipment. Only
>> added software to core system is office 2014. Objective responses
>> would be appreciated. Curious as to why it might be slower? Boots
>> definitely slower and resumes slower as well.
>
> Try this.
>
> Notice something with a big delay on windows ?
>
> Check Task Manager. Is the CPU pinned ? Nope, it's idle.
>
> Check disk drive light.
> Is the disk drive light flashing ? Nope.
>
> what does that leave ?

Waiting for I/O such as disk I/O is the obvious answer.


>
> Artificial delay.
>
> And while there are a large number of things
> you could try and adjust, my guess would be
> you would be wasting your time trying.
>
> Paul


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[Char Jackson]

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 10:38:46 +0100, mechanic > wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 04:32:02 +0200, Sjouke Burry wrote:
>
>> Programmers can waste resources faster than hardware designers
>> can improve them.
>
>Moore's Law works for hardware, not software, so in the end hardware
>wins!

Huh?

[Bucky Breeder[_4_]]

Drew > posted this via
:

> Is it just me or is 10 slower? Running a bleeding edge yr old Intel core
> i5, 16gigs of ram, decent graphics... Win 10 definitely seems to be
> slower and less responsive than win 7 pro on same equipment. Only added
> software to core system is office 2014. Objective responses would be
> appreciated. Curious as to why it might be slower? Boots definitely
> slower and resumes slower as well.

When you upgraded, Windows 10 kept a lot of your installed 3rd-party
software, yeah?

3rd-party anti-virus could certainly cause this... even 3rd-party
firewalls. Even so; even no: You might examine your 3rd-party software
inventory and decide to either uninstall it on Windows 10, or go back to
your Windows 7 image backup (I don't know how the Windows 10 roll-back
would effect this process) and once it's restored, then uninstall
everything in your 3rd-party software inventory that you can either do
without, or can easily upgrade/reinstall later (also, you'd still have your
backed up image with the installed software intact - which you could
quickly and easily restore). Then after all the reboots, use your Windows
10 media to upgrade... then see if your speeds and response times are on
par with your expectations.

Windows 10 isn't supposed to be "faster" than Windows 7/8/8.1... It's just
a different user interface. Edge is supposed to faster than IE or
Firefox... but it's badly crippled, lacking many features most surfers use.

From the information you've provided, it could be any number of things. In
my case, I had several software, incl. AV & FW, which worked just fine, if
not excellently, all the way through Win8.1. My first attempts at
upgrading to Win10 were frustrated by these software... uninstalling them
first, then upgrading to Win10 was successful - and IMO, resulted in
quicker response times because I'm using the issued Windows Defender and
Windows Firewalls (for now) with Windows 10. This did make a big
difference and improvement in my perception of system response speeds.

Like I implied, it could be any number of software impeding your
operations, and only you would know best how to approach that.

There is nothing inherent in Windows 10 which would make it "slower" than
Windows 7... The user/usage experience would hold the predominant factors.

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[Gary Heston]

In article >, Paul > wrote:
>Drew wrote:
[ ... ]
>what does that leave ?

>Artificial delay.

>And while there are a large number of things
>you could try and adjust, my guess would be
>you would be wasting your time trying.

Wouldn't be the first time; delay loops were added to NT4 for the Alpha
CPU to choke it back the the same responsiveness as the Intel version
because the Alpha version was running circles around it and Microsoft
didn't want to embarass Intel. Dirty tricks are nothing new for the
folks in Redmond.


Gary