Annoying Pop Ups

[John [MNVP]]

Yeh! And Microsoft can't control allowing pop-ups to be
disabled with IE 6! What a joke they could easily remove
them by coming out with a new version of IE like the
superior Mozilla, and Opera browsers have. But we will
probably have to wait 2 more f...g years for that to
happen!. Because MS "allows" companies to put pop-ups in
the browser to annoy us IE users!. And hey what a better
reason to upgrade to the next operating system coming out
in 2005 to get the new IE with a built in pop-up
remover!. Another great way to make a buck!.
>-----Original Message-----
>Recently, I am receiving a lot of annoying Pop Ups from
>company, asking me to go to blockmessenger.com to stop
>such an intrusion.
>How do I get rid of these annoying pop-ups? Please help.
>
>.
>

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

John;
Maybe you don't know how to use the firewall to control the Messenger
Service ads, that does not mean Microsoft can't control them.
You can stop Messenger Service ads by simply using the provided
firewall.
There are no upgrades or updates needed.
Since you don't know how, here it is again:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283673

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"John [MNVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Yeh! And Microsoft can't control allowing pop-ups to be
> disabled with IE 6! What a joke they could easily remove
> them by coming out with a new version of IE like the
> superior Mozilla, and Opera browsers have. But we will
> probably have to wait 2 more f...g years for that to
> happen!. Because MS "allows" companies to put pop-ups in
> the browser to annoy us IE users!. And hey what a better
> reason to upgrade to the next operating system coming out
> in 2005 to get the new IE with a built in pop-up
> remover!. Another great way to make a buck!.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Recently, I am receiving a lot of annoying Pop Ups from
> >company, asking me to go to blockmessenger.com to stop
> >such an intrusion.
> >How do I get rid of these annoying pop-ups? Please help.
> >
> >.
> >

[Alun Jones [MS MVP]]

In article >, "John [MNVP]"
> wrote:
>Yeh! And Microsoft can't control allowing pop-ups to be
>disabled with IE 6!

Okay, let's rock.

1. Chandroo's messages come from the Messenger Service. Removing IE
completely wouldn't help. These messages can be blocked either by disabling
Messenger Service (bad idea), or enabling a firewall (good idea).

>What a joke they could easily remove
>them by coming out with a new version of IE like the
>superior Mozilla, and Opera browsers have.

2. Want to see what happened last time they did anything like that?
<URL:http://infoeagle.bc.
edu/bc_org/avp/law/st_org/iptf/headlines/content/1999031702.html>

Put simply, Microsoft added spam filters to Outlook Express, and a company
(bluemountain.com) took them to court and got an injunction to have
Microsoft remove those spam filters on the grounds that they were
"anti-competitive" (even in the face of objections that what the filter did
to BlueMountain's "e-cards", it also did to Microsoft's similar offering).

If MS put a popup blocker into IE, you'd likely get a number of court-cases
resulting in its removal before we ever got to see the technology. Granted,
I'd like to see them try it, just in case they win this time.

>But we will
>probably have to wait 2 more f...g years for that to
>happen!. Because MS "allows" companies to put pop-ups in
>the browser to annoy us IE users!. And hey what a better
>reason to upgrade to the next operating system coming out
>in 2005 to get the new IE with a built in pop-up
>remover!. Another great way to make a buck!.

3. Actually, if you want to blame anyone for the ability to add pop-ups, you
might want to blame the inventors of, oh, Javascript. Now, who would that
be? Oh, yes, Netscape.

Now, whether future versions of IE will include popup blockers or not, I
can't say (haven't researched the issue) - but I can suggest numerous
reasons why they don't, the biggest of which would be the threats of
lawsuits from advertisers and from existing popup blocker manufacturers.

Not every undesired result comes from well thought-out evil plans in
Redmond. In fact, very few do.

Alun.
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[John]

Ok than WHY is "Opera and Mozilla" allowed to have pop-up
blockers in their browsers and not Microsoft. Is IE sent
from God himself. Than Opera and Mozilla should be sued!.
What about Earthlink with it's pop-up blocker and spam
remover. Blue mountain should sue them!. Do you think
people really want spam or pop-up adds. No!. That is why
the government should now begin to crack down on
spamers.People want IE to have a built in pop-up remover
plain and simple, like the other browsers do!. Even
Safari from Apple has a pop-up remover. Let them sue!.
They'll be as popular with Windows users as SCO is with
Linux users. And SCO will loose that battle!.
>-----Original Message-----
>In article <047601c35346$933f2130
>, "John [MNVP]"
> wrote:
>>Yeh! And Microsoft can't control allowing pop-ups to be
>>disabled with IE 6!
>
>Okay, let's rock.
>
>1. Chandroo's messages come from the Messenger Service.
Removing IE
>completely wouldn't help. These messages can be blocked
either by disabling
>Messenger Service (bad idea), or enabling a firewall
(good idea).
>
>>What a joke they could easily remove
>>them by coming out with a new version of IE like the
>>superior Mozilla, and Opera browsers have.
>
>2. Want to see what happened last time they did anything
like that?
><URL:http://infoeagle.bc.
>edu/bc_org/avp/law/st_org/iptf/headlines/content/19990317
02.html>
>
>Put simply, Microsoft added spam filters to Outlook
Express, and a company
>(bluemountain.com) took them to court and got an
injunction to have
>Microsoft remove those spam filters on the grounds that
they were
>"anti-competitive" (even in the face of objections that
what the filter did
>to BlueMountain's "e-cards", it also did to Microsoft's
similar offering).
>
>If MS put a popup blocker into IE, you'd likely get a
number of court-cases
>resulting in its removal before we ever got to see the
technology. Granted,
>I'd like to see them try it, just in case they win this
time.
>
>>But we will
>>probably have to wait 2 more f...g years for that to
>>happen!. Because MS "allows" companies to put pop-ups
in
>>the browser to annoy us IE users!. And hey what a
better
>>reason to upgrade to the next operating system coming
out
>>in 2005 to get the new IE with a built in pop-up
>>remover!. Another great way to make a buck!.
>
>3. Actually, if you want to blame anyone for the ability
to add pop-ups, you
>might want to blame the inventors of, oh, Javascript.
Now, who would that
>be? Oh, yes, Netscape.
>
>Now, whether future versions of IE will include popup
blockers or not, I
>can't say (haven't researched the issue) - but I can
suggest numerous
>reasons why they don't, the biggest of which would be
the threats of
>lawsuits from advertisers and from existing popup
blocker manufacturers.
>
>Not every undesired result comes from well thought-out
evil plans in
>Redmond. In fact, very few do.
>
>Alun.
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>

[Alun Jones [MS MVP]]

In article >, "John" >
wrote:
>Ok than WHY is "Opera and Mozilla" allowed to have pop-up
>blockers in their browsers and not Microsoft. Is IE sent
>from God himself.

Close. IE comes from the suppliers of the operating system. It is
installed on every system. Other vendors' software is installed as a matter
of the user's choice.

>Than Opera and Mozilla should be sued!.

Can't be sued for monopolistic, anti-competitive behaviours if you're the
small-fry competitor - only if you're the big monopoly.

>What about Earthlink with it's pop-up blocker and spam
>remover. Blue mountain should sue them!. Do you think
>people really want spam or pop-up adds. No!.

It's not a matter of what I think, unfortunately - the courts are ruled over
by people who are quite significantly removed from the world we live in.
Even more so when it comes to computers, in many cases. How many judges do
you think do their own surfing, or read their own email? How many judges
have ever _seen_ a spam, or an unwanted popup? Let alone the numbers that
the rest of us have to deal with.

Once we get legislators and judges that have faced the problem on a
first-hand basis, we'll get something other than the fawning "anti-spam
bills" that do nothing more than say "I'm an anti-spam bill, and I say it's
okay to spam as long as you don't lie when you do so." No more anti-spam
than NASA's swimming pool is an anti-gravity room.

>That is why
>the government should now begin to crack down on
>spamers.People want IE to have a built in pop-up remover
>plain and simple, like the other browsers do!. Even
>Safari from Apple has a pop-up remover. Let them sue!.

And they may do so (but Apple isn't a monopoly, so they'll have to find
different laws) - what you should do is to contact your representatives in
the two houses of Congress, and get them to write some legislation that
isn't funded by the DMA. Let them know that you will vote them out of
office, even if you have to vote Green in order to do so, if they do not
stop spam. Remind them that you want it stopped, not just labeled, because
noone has the right to plant their message in your inbox - they have to be
invited first.

>They'll be as popular with Windows users as SCO is with
>Linux users. And SCO will loose that battle!.

I'd really like to see spam stopped. But I think you're barking up the
wrong tree assuming that Microsoft are in league with spammers. [They may
be, but not from the evidence you've suggested]

Alun.
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