View Full Version : Pop ups through Messanger Service
Chris B
December 14th 03, 11:20 AM
It's sent to via the NET SEND service to disable it
1. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Services
2. Find the service "Alerter" and double click it
3. where it says "Startup type" on the first tab select
"Disable"
4. press "stop"
and exit, no more pop-ups!
Miha Pihler
December 14th 03, 11:20 AM
Chris,
This is not true... Stopping Alerter service will not stop Messenger
Pop-Ups.
--
Mike
MCSA 2K, MCSE 2K, MCT, ...
"Chris B" > wrote in message
...
> It's sent to via the NET SEND service to disable it
>
> 1. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Services
>
> 2. Find the service "Alerter" and double click it
>
> 3. where it says "Startup type" on the first tab select
> "Disable"
>
> 4. press "stop"
>
> and exit, no more pop-ups!
Chris Brocheré
December 14th 03, 11:21 AM
oh yeah it's the "messenger" service
sorry
"Miha Pihler" > wrote in message
...
> Chris,
>
> This is not true... Stopping Alerter service will not stop Messenger
> Pop-Ups.
>
> --
> Mike
> MCSA 2K, MCSE 2K, MCT, ...
>
> "Chris B" > wrote in message
> ...
> > It's sent to via the NET SEND service to disable it
> >
> > 1. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Services
> >
> > 2. Find the service "Alerter" and double click it
> >
> > 3. where it says "Startup type" on the first tab select
> > "Disable"
> >
> > 4. press "stop"
> >
> > and exit, no more pop-ups!
>
>
Miha Pihler
December 14th 03, 11:21 AM
Well Stopping Messenger service might stop Pop-Ups but it won't stop anyone
from internet accessing your PC. Personal firewall stops Pop-Ups and any
uninvited guests from internet... It is up to you what you want do...
--
Mike
MCSA 2K, MCSE 2K, MCT, ...
"Chris Brocheré" > wrote in message
...
> oh yeah it's the "messenger" service
>
> sorry
>
>
> "Miha Pihler" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Chris,
> >
> > This is not true... Stopping Alerter service will not stop Messenger
> > Pop-Ups.
> >
> > --
> > Mike
> > MCSA 2K, MCSE 2K, MCT, ...
> >
> > "Chris B" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > It's sent to via the NET SEND service to disable it
> > >
> > > 1. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Services
> > >
> > > 2. Find the service "Alerter" and double click it
> > >
> > > 3. where it says "Startup type" on the first tab select
> > > "Disable"
> > >
> > > 4. press "stop"
> > >
> > > and exit, no more pop-ups!
> >
> >
>
>
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
December 14th 03, 11:21 AM
Chris;
This is a BAD solution.
You need to install or enable a firewall:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=330904
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
Disabling Messenger Service can be a good idea, but it does not solve
the real problem.
The ads are not the real problem, the ads are only a symptom.
The real problem is open ports that allow unwanted traffic into the
computer.
Disabling Messenger does nothing for the open ports.
The firewall controls the traffic.
--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
http://dts-l.org/index.html
"Chris B" > wrote in message
...
> It's sent to via the NET SEND service to disable it
>
> 1. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Services
>
> 2. Find the service "Alerter" and double click it
>
> 3. where it says "Startup type" on the first tab select
> "Disable"
>
> 4. press "stop"
>
> and exit, no more pop-ups!
Chris Brocheré
December 14th 03, 11:21 AM
I agree all ports not being used should be closed, This is this just the
service that recieves the messages, if your a single user not behind a
router or network, it has no use to you and may as well be turned off,
there are a number of services running which are useless to the average
desktop user, ie UPnP, Help and support etc which are loading and chewing
resoources for nothing, it won't hurt to disable a few(albeit a minor
performance increase)
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Chris;
> This is a BAD solution.
> You need to install or enable a firewall:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=330904
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
> Disabling Messenger Service can be a good idea, but it does not solve
> the real problem.
> The ads are not the real problem, the ads are only a symptom.
> The real problem is open ports that allow unwanted traffic into the
> computer.
> Disabling Messenger does nothing for the open ports.
> The firewall controls the traffic.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>
>
> "Chris B" > wrote in message
> ...
> > It's sent to via the NET SEND service to disable it
> >
> > 1. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Services
> >
> > 2. Find the service "Alerter" and double click it
> >
> > 3. where it says "Startup type" on the first tab select
> > "Disable"
> >
> > 4. press "stop"
> >
> > and exit, no more pop-ups!
>
>
Kevin Davis³
December 14th 03, 11:21 AM
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 05:17:07 +1200, "Chris Brocheré"
> wrote:
>there are a number of services running which are useless to the average
>desktop user, ie UPnP, Help and support etc which are loading and chewing
>resoources for nothing, it won't hurt to disable a few(albeit a minor
>performance increase)
EXACTLY!!!
And not only that, who knows what undiscovered
vulnerabilities/exploits that this service may be or is susceptable to
or will be in the future. Unless you have a very good reason to have
this service running, there is NO REASON to have it running. To
disable it not only gives back some of your system resources
(admittedly in this case it is not a huge return) but also allows you
to totally avoid being vulnerable to this service.
Remember sendmail? It is installed and running as a daemon by default
(or used to be) on Linux systems and had been regarded as very secure.
And this last year they found a serious vulnerability that had been
there for over 15 years. Who knows how long the hackers knew about
it. How many people left themselves vulnerable by leaving that
service on and didn't need it?. Relying on one and only one line of
defense (a firewall) is foolish. You should harden your system as
well as install a firewall. Doing one does not mean that you
shouldn't do the other.
It takes 20 seconds to turn it off. What have you lost? Nothing.
What have you gained? See above.
---------------------------------------
What could possibly go wrong?
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
December 14th 03, 11:22 AM
Chris;
If you agree, why do you not mention a firewall at all?
The omission of the necessity of a firewall in your post makes it look
like a complete solution.
Without a firewall, it is NOT.
People may be better off doing both, but it is far worse being without
a firewall and Messenger Service than having both functional.
Especially since there is a legitimate use for Messenger Service.
I know of many that use Messenger Service as a "canary".
If they get a message, they know something is wrong with the firewall.
--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
http://dts-l.org/index.html
"Chris Brocheré" > wrote in message
...
> I agree all ports not being used should be closed, This is this just
the
> service that recieves the messages, if your a single user not behind
a
> router or network, it has no use to you and may as well be turned
off,
> there are a number of services running which are useless to the
average
> desktop user, ie UPnP, Help and support etc which are loading and
chewing
> resoources for nothing, it won't hurt to disable a few(albeit a
minor
> performance increase)
>
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Chris;
> > This is a BAD solution.
> > You need to install or enable a firewall:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=330904
> >
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
> > Disabling Messenger Service can be a good idea, but it does not
solve
> > the real problem.
> > The ads are not the real problem, the ads are only a symptom.
> > The real problem is open ports that allow unwanted traffic into
the
> > computer.
> > Disabling Messenger does nothing for the open ports.
> > The firewall controls the traffic.
> >
> > --
> > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> >
> >
> > "Chris B" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > It's sent to via the NET SEND service to disable it
> > >
> > > 1. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Services
> > >
> > > 2. Find the service "Alerter" and double click it
> > >
> > > 3. where it says "Startup type" on the first tab select
> > > "Disable"
> > >
> > > 4. press "stop"
> > >
> > > and exit, no more pop-ups!
> >
> >
>
>
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