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George
December 5th 03, 12:30 PM
Not to name any names, but hey has anyone, besides myself, thought about the
fact that maybe a certain company or companies paid someone to create this
worm. Think about it, how many people are scurrying to buy firewall and
anti virus software right now? And, how many people are all of a sudden
dependant on the Firewall that is built into XP after being told for months
now that it isn't even a safe firewall to begin with? How many times have
you heard, "download all of the security fixes that come out", and how many
people do you think will "NOT" do that now? How many support people are
making a killing off of this situation?

Sounds like a darn good scam all around to me!!! Maybe a certain governing
body is behind this?

Maybe its an inside job :-)
--
George

L. A. Powell
December 5th 03, 12:30 PM
Maybe Elvis still lives. Sort of hard to not be paranoid these days,
huh?


"George" > wrote in message
...
> Not to name any names, but hey has anyone, besides myself, thought
about the
> fact that maybe a certain company or companies paid someone to create
this
> worm. Think about it, how many people are scurrying to buy firewall
and
> anti virus software right now? And, how many people are all of a
sudden
> dependant on the Firewall that is built into XP after being told for
months
> now that it isn't even a safe firewall to begin with? How many times
have
> you heard, "download all of the security fixes that come out", and how
many
> people do you think will "NOT" do that now? How many support people
are
> making a killing off of this situation?
>
> Sounds like a darn good scam all around to me!!! Maybe a certain
governing
> body is behind this?
>
> Maybe its an inside job :-)
> --
> George
>
>

Rifleman
December 5th 03, 12:30 PM
In article >,
says...
> Not to name any names, but hey has anyone, besides myself, thought about the
> fact that maybe a certain company or companies paid someone to create this
> worm. Think about it, how many people are scurrying to buy firewall and
> anti virus software right now? And, how many people are all of a sudden
> dependant on the Firewall that is built into XP after being told for months
> now that it isn't even a safe firewall to begin with?


Who's said its "not safe"?


> How many times have
> you heard, "download all of the security fixes that come out", and how many
> people do you think will "NOT" do that now? How many support people are
> making a killing off of this situation?
>
> Sounds like a darn good scam all around to me!!! Maybe a certain governing
> body is behind this?
>
> Maybe its an inside job :-)
>

I'm Probably Not Here
December 5th 03, 12:30 PM
On 15/8/2003 13:01, L. A. Powell wrote:

> Maybe Elvis still lives. Sort of hard to not be paranoid these days,
> huh?

<==censored==>

Enclosed please find one pair of noids.

kurttrail
December 5th 03, 12:30 PM
Rifleman wrote:

> Who's said its "not safe"?

Only blocks inbound, and lets programs listen to ports that the worm
come in thru. It's like having sex with a condom full of holes!

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kurttrail
December 5th 03, 12:30 PM
George wrote:

> Not to name any names, but hey has anyone, besides myself, thought
> about the fact that maybe a certain company or companies paid someone
> to create this worm. Think about it, how many people are scurrying
> to buy firewall and anti virus software right now? And, how many
> people are all of a sudden dependant on the Firewall that is built
> into XP after being told for months now that it isn't even a safe
> firewall to begin with? How many times have you heard, "download
> all of the security fixes that come out", and how many people do you
> think will "NOT" do that now? How many support people are making a
> killing off of this situation?
>
> Sounds like a darn good scam all around to me!!! Maybe a certain
> governing body is behind this?
>
> Maybe its an inside job :-)

Dept. of Homeland Security & MS.

They had to get their backdoor into everybodies' computer, and the scare
tactics weren't working to get everbody to download the patch. Why do
you think the worm was coded to attack the old address for WinUpdate?
;-)

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Peace!
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http://microscum.kurttrail.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

ConiferComputerGuy
December 5th 03, 12:30 PM
I am one of those people who has been saying "download all of the security
fixes that come out" and "Keep Norton Antivirus updated!" and "Use Norton
Internet Security or ZoneAlarm if you are on in the Internet".

Well, I am fine, but it is great to see how many people followed my advice.
:-)

I have seen a number of junk mail messages looking to profit off this whole
mess. I agree, it is convenient. I suppose I have a lighter view on this,
because I keep updating! :-)


"George" > wrote in message
...
> Not to name any names, but hey has anyone, besides myself, thought about
the
> fact that maybe a certain company or companies paid someone to create this
> worm. Think about it, how many people are scurrying to buy firewall and
> anti virus software right now? And, how many people are all of a sudden
> dependant on the Firewall that is built into XP after being told for
months
> now that it isn't even a safe firewall to begin with? How many times
have
> you heard, "download all of the security fixes that come out", and how
many
> people do you think will "NOT" do that now? How many support people are
> making a killing off of this situation?
>
> Sounds like a darn good scam all around to me!!! Maybe a certain
governing
> body is behind this?
>
> Maybe its an inside job :-)
> --
> George
>
>

Larc
December 5th 03, 12:30 PM
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 14:56:44 -0400, George pondered exceedingly, then took quill
in hand and carefully composed...

| Not to name any names, but hey has anyone, besides myself, thought about the
| fact that maybe a certain company or companies paid someone to create this
| worm. Think about it, how many people are scurrying to buy firewall and
| anti virus software right now? And, how many people are all of a sudden
| dependant on the Firewall that is built into XP after being told for months
| now that it isn't even a safe firewall to begin with? How many times have
| you heard, "download all of the security fixes that come out", and how many
| people do you think will "NOT" do that now? How many support people are
| making a killing off of this situation?
|
| Sounds like a darn good scam all around to me!!! Maybe a certain governing
| body is behind this?
|
| Maybe its an inside job :-)

It's little green men doing it all. I've seen 'em!!! ;-)

Larc



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Tom Lake
December 5th 03, 12:30 PM
> > Who's said its "not safe"?
>
> Only blocks inbound, and lets programs listen to ports that the worm
> come in thru. It's like having sex with a condom full of holes!

It's good enough to have prevented the MSblast worm! Even Steve Gibson's
Website says it's good.

Tom Lake

I'm Probably Not Here
December 5th 03, 12:30 PM
On 15/8/2003 15:15, Tom Lake wrote:

>>>Who's said its "not safe"?
>>
>>Only blocks inbound, and lets programs listen to ports that the worm
>>come in thru. It's like having sex with a condom full of holes!
>
>
> It's good enough to have prevented the MSblast worm! Even Steve Gibson's
> Website says it's good.
>
> Tom Lake
>
>
Yes, and Steve's ShieldsUp claims that I have an open port that is
demonstrably shut. How do I know it is closed? By the log of the number
of attempted accesses through it, especially over the past few days. I'd
take quite a bit of what he says quite cautiously.

Among others, take a look at this site: http://grcsucks.com/

Frank
December 5th 03, 12:31 PM
"ConiferComputerGuy" > wrote in message
...
| I am one of those people who has been saying "download all of the
security
| fixes that come out" and "Keep Norton Antivirus updated!" and "Use
Norton
| Internet Security or ZoneAlarm if you are on in the Internet".
|
| Well, I am fine, but it is great to see how many people followed my
advice.
| :-)
|
| I have seen a number of junk mail messages looking to profit off this
whole
| mess. I agree, it is convenient. I suppose I have a lighter view on
this,
| because I keep updating! :-)

Well I don't have any of that over priced FUDWARE installed on any
of my PC's and I am fine. Of course my Linux and Windows PC's
are patched and updated and I am setup behind a quality firewall.

Malvern
December 5th 03, 12:34 PM
Where were *your* kids on August 11th? Word going around among the
professionals is that this was the work of mischievous teenagers. Little
brats !!

Malv

"George" > wrote in message
...
> Not to name any names, but hey has anyone, besides myself, thought about
the
> fact that maybe a certain company or companies paid someone to create this
> worm. Think about it, how many people are scurrying to buy firewall and
> anti virus software right now? And, how many people are all of a sudden
> dependant on the Firewall that is built into XP after being told for
months
> now that it isn't even a safe firewall to begin with? How many times
have
> you heard, "download all of the security fixes that come out", and how
many
> people do you think will "NOT" do that now? How many support people are
> making a killing off of this situation?
>
> Sounds like a darn good scam all around to me!!! Maybe a certain
governing
> body is behind this?
>
> Maybe its an inside job :-)
> --
> George
>
>

baker
December 5th 03, 12:34 PM
George, get a life. They have reported that about 350,000 (people?)
have gotten the Worm. Lets see thats leave what 2 Billion computer users
that didn't get it. Now why would a company pay anybody for such a Worm
that hasn't affected 1% of the world. I suggest you sell your computer
and buy a play station. But first read the manual! :-(

I'm Probably Not Here
December 5th 03, 12:35 PM
On 16/8/2003 9:24, baker wrote:

> George, get a life. They have reported that about 350,000 (people?)
> have gotten the Worm. Lets see thats leave what 2 Billion computer users
> that didn't get it. Now why would a company pay anybody for such a Worm
> that hasn't affected 1% of the world. I suggest you sell your computer
> and buy a play station. But first read the manual! :-(
>

However, would he not need to buy the Playstation in order to get the
manual in order to read same?

Reminds me of Apple several years ago: On some model(s), you had to
unpack several layers of "whatever" in the packing carton in order to
get to the instructions on how to unpack the carton.

Bruce Chambers
December 5th 03, 12:35 PM
Greetings --

Better check your tin foil hat. I think it's come loose and
letting stray thoughts into you head. Oh. and the black helicopter
hovering over your house is an illusion; ignore it.

Bruce Chambers

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"George" > wrote in message
...
> Not to name any names, but hey has anyone, besides myself, thought
about the
> fact that maybe a certain company or companies paid someone to
create this
> worm. Think about it, how many people are scurrying to buy firewall
and
> anti virus software right now? And, how many people are all of a
sudden
> dependant on the Firewall that is built into XP after being told for
months
> now that it isn't even a safe firewall to begin with? How many
times have
> you heard, "download all of the security fixes that come out", and
how many
> people do you think will "NOT" do that now? How many support
people are
> making a killing off of this situation?
>
> Sounds like a darn good scam all around to me!!! Maybe a certain
governing
> body is behind this?
>
> Maybe its an inside job :-)
> --
> George
>
>

Bruce Chambers
December 5th 03, 12:35 PM
Greetings --

Remember: "Just 'cause you're paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't
out to get you." ;-}

Bruce Chambers

--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH


"L. A. Powell" > wrote in message
...
> Maybe Elvis still lives. Sort of hard to not be paranoid these days,
> huh?
>
>
> "George" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Not to name any names, but hey has anyone, besides myself, thought
> about the
> > fact that maybe a certain company or companies paid someone to
create
> this
> > worm. Think about it, how many people are scurrying to buy
firewall
> and
> > anti virus software right now? And, how many people are all of a
> sudden
> > dependant on the Firewall that is built into XP after being told
for
> months
> > now that it isn't even a safe firewall to begin with? How many
times
> have
> > you heard, "download all of the security fixes that come out", and
how
> many
> > people do you think will "NOT" do that now? How many support
people
> are
> > making a killing off of this situation?
> >
> > Sounds like a darn good scam all around to me!!! Maybe a certain
> governing
> > body is behind this?
> >
> > Maybe its an inside job :-)
> > --
> > George
> >
> >
>
>

george
December 5th 03, 12:35 PM
I've got a life and a playstation 2 :-) I guess it must be against the
rules to think out loud around here? BTW, I didn't get hit neither but sure
have been working on a lot of PCs that didn't, thank you!!! Read, how do
you do that...is it on the computer because I don't read......unless it is
on my PC ;-) and I sure hope it is bit and bytes so I can understand
it.....how did you know about the helicopter anyway????? You guys are
freaking me out!!!!!

George

"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings --
>
> Better check your tin foil hat. I think it's come loose and
> letting stray thoughts into you head. Oh. and the black helicopter
> hovering over your house is an illusion; ignore it.
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> --
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> having both at once. -- RAH
>
>
> "George" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Not to name any names, but hey has anyone, besides myself, thought
> about the
> > fact that maybe a certain company or companies paid someone to
> create this
> > worm. Think about it, how many people are scurrying to buy firewall
> and
> > anti virus software right now? And, how many people are all of a
> sudden
> > dependant on the Firewall that is built into XP after being told for
> months
> > now that it isn't even a safe firewall to begin with? How many
> times have
> > you heard, "download all of the security fixes that come out", and
> how many
> > people do you think will "NOT" do that now? How many support
> people are
> > making a killing off of this situation?
> >
> > Sounds like a darn good scam all around to me!!! Maybe a certain
> governing
> > body is behind this?
> >
> > Maybe its an inside job :-)
> > --
> > George
> >
> >
>
>

Unknown
December 5th 03, 12:35 PM
Who's George?
"baker" > wrote in message
. ..
> George, get a life. They have reported that about 350,000 (people?)
> have gotten the Worm. Lets see thats leave what 2 Billion computer users
> that didn't get it. Now why would a company pay anybody for such a Worm
> that hasn't affected 1% of the world. I suggest you sell your computer
> and buy a play station. But first read the manual! :-(
>

Maureen Goldman
December 5th 03, 12:36 PM
>"Malvern" > wrote:
>Where were *your* kids on August 11th? Word going around among the
>professionals is that this was the work of mischievous teenagers. Little
>brats !!

It could be the work of teenagers. Until charges have been laid,
though I see no reason to make that assumption. This might be a plot
to lure the culprit out of hiding, screaming "No, it wasn't a
teenager, you fools! IT WAS ME!!!"

Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]
December 5th 03, 12:37 PM
It's "Just because you aren't paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get
you". Notice the "aren't"

--
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http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site :-)
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask for, it will be
deleted without reading.


"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings --
>
> Remember: "Just 'cause you're paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't
> out to get you." ;-}
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> --
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> having both at once. -- RAH
>
>
> "L. A. Powell" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Maybe Elvis still lives. Sort of hard to not be paranoid these days,
> > huh?
> >
> >
> > "George" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Not to name any names, but hey has anyone, besides myself, thought
> > about the
> > > fact that maybe a certain company or companies paid someone to
> create
> > this
> > > worm. Think about it, how many people are scurrying to buy
> firewall
> > and
> > > anti virus software right now? And, how many people are all of a
> > sudden
> > > dependant on the Firewall that is built into XP after being told
> for
> > months
> > > now that it isn't even a safe firewall to begin with? How many
> times
> > have
> > > you heard, "download all of the security fixes that come out", and
> how
> > many
> > > people do you think will "NOT" do that now? How many support
> people
> > are
> > > making a killing off of this situation?
> > >
> > > Sounds like a darn good scam all around to me!!! Maybe a certain
> > governing
> > > body is behind this?
> > >
> > > Maybe its an inside job :-)
> > > --
> > > George
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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