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Chris Bowman
December 14th 03, 02:24 PM
Am on Windows XP. Trying to install the firewall,
although don't think I've been unlucky enough to get bug
at moment. Following instructions from your website, and
when I get to right clicking on the Dial up, Lan or High
Speed Internet Connection, I have problems. We are on
dial up, so I right click on that and then click on
Properties and nothing seems to happen. On the Advanced
tab, I do not have a heading 'Internet Connection
Firewall' so cannot proceed any further. In desperation
I right clicked on 1394 Net Adapter (although I don't
know what that really means!) and I seem to have
installed a firewall on that - can somebody tell me if I
have actually installed the firewall or not? I'm
confused!

Chris

Bruce Chambers
December 14th 03, 02:25 PM
Greetings --

You'll either need to find a 3rd party firewall that is compatible
with AOL, or switch to a real ISP that is compatible with the real
Internet..

AOL is an on-line content provider that ignores international
Internetworking standards in favor of its own proprietary products,
and has deliberately made its connection software incompatible with
both WinXP's built-in firewall and WinXP's Internet Connection Sharing
feature. AOL's proprietary connection applet is deliberately designed
to preclude your setting/adjusting any of its properties, to include
enabling/disabling WinXP's ICF and ICS.


Bruce Chambers

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"Chris Bowman" > wrote in message
...
> Am on Windows XP. Trying to install the firewall,
> although don't think I've been unlucky enough to get bug
> at moment. Following instructions from your website, and
> when I get to right clicking on the Dial up, Lan or High
> Speed Internet Connection, I have problems. We are on
> dial up, so I right click on that and then click on
> Properties and nothing seems to happen. On the Advanced
> tab, I do not have a heading 'Internet Connection
> Firewall' so cannot proceed any further. In desperation
> I right clicked on 1394 Net Adapter (although I don't
> know what that really means!) and I seem to have
> installed a firewall on that - can somebody tell me if I
> have actually installed the firewall or not? I'm
> confused!
>
> Chris

Kylee Jones
December 14th 03, 02:25 PM
Bruce,

I am on MSN and having the same problem as Chris. Does
this mean that Microsoft is deliberatly keeping people
from enabling the firewall to protect themselves - even
though they tell us to?

Do you know if is this a new feature? A friend of mine
has an older version of MSN Explorer, and he did not have
a problem enabling his firewall.

Any help you can offer would be very welcome.

In the meantime, I'm off on a quest for more answers...

Thanks,
Kylee

Bruce Chambers
December 14th 03, 02:25 PM
Greetings --

I'm afraid I've no knowledge of MSN, but I wouldn't think that
Microsoft would do something so foolish as to copy AOL's deplorable
programming habits. What does MSN's support folks have to say about
this?

Bruce Chambers

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http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH


"Kylee Jones" > wrote in message
...
> Bruce,
>
> I am on MSN and having the same problem as Chris. Does
> this mean that Microsoft is deliberatly keeping people
> from enabling the firewall to protect themselves - even
> though they tell us to?
>
> Do you know if is this a new feature? A friend of mine
> has an older version of MSN Explorer, and he did not have
> a problem enabling his firewall.
>
> Any help you can offer would be very welcome.
>
> In the meantime, I'm off on a quest for more answers...
>
> Thanks,
> Kylee

Kylee
December 14th 03, 02:28 PM
Bruce,

They tell me to delete this, restart that, the connection
must be corrupted, it's a problem with XP....

I've spoken with them 4 times, and the best information
I've had so far has come from a Microsoft Tech on one of
the Newsgroups.

He said it was a design decision made by MSN to prevent
people from changing their settings. However, when I
even hinted at that with one of the techs, they very
sternly told me they were not allowed to prevent people
from accessing their settings.

UGH!

Thanks for your help.

Kylee
>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings --
>
> I'm afraid I've no knowledge of MSN, but I wouldn't
think that
>Microsoft would do something so foolish as to copy AOL's
deplorable
>programming habits. What does MSN's support folks have
to say about
>this?
>
>Bruce Chambers
>
>--
>Help us help you:
>http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't
ever count on
>having both at once. -- RAH
>
>
>"Kylee Jones" > wrote in message
...
>> Bruce,
>>
>> I am on MSN and having the same problem as Chris. Does
>> this mean that Microsoft is deliberatly keeping people
>> from enabling the firewall to protect themselves - even
>> though they tell us to?
>>
>> Do you know if is this a new feature? A friend of mine
>> has an older version of MSN Explorer, and he did not
have
>> a problem enabling his firewall.
>>
>> Any help you can offer would be very welcome.
>>
>> In the meantime, I'm off on a quest for more answers...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kylee
>
>
>.
>

Bruce Chambers
December 14th 03, 02:28 PM
Greetings --

Sorry to hear that. I guess, since Microsoft is trying to woo AOL
users away with MSN, they felt they also needed to dumb-down the
connection applet. I consider such a course deplorable; but I'm not
chasing the lowest common denominator, like businesses often feel they
must.


Bruce Chambers

--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH


"Kylee" > wrote in message
...
> Bruce,
>
> They tell me to delete this, restart that, the connection
> must be corrupted, it's a problem with XP....
>
> I've spoken with them 4 times, and the best information
> I've had so far has come from a Microsoft Tech on one of
> the Newsgroups.
>
> He said it was a design decision made by MSN to prevent
> people from changing their settings. However, when I
> even hinted at that with one of the techs, they very
> sternly told me they were not allowed to prevent people
> from accessing their settings.
>
> UGH!
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Kylee

Kylee
December 14th 03, 02:56 PM
Bruce,

MSN still will not take credit for the block on their
connection. The last representative I spoke with asked
me WHY I wanted to enable my firewall. When I told her I
was only trying to do what Microsoft & MSN had told me to
do in order to protect my computer, she said "Oh..."
From that point she was very helpful and gave me the
information I needed to create my own connection and
enable my firewall.

I'm still bothered by the whole thing, but at least I
have a little more control over my computer now.

Thanks for your help.

Kylee

Bruce Chambers
December 14th 03, 02:57 PM
Greetings --

You're welcome. I'm glad to hear that you've finally received a
solution. Too bad that it had to come in the form of a work-around.
It does sadden me a bit to learn that MSN is apparently very little
better than AOL, but it's not really surprising.

Bruce Chambers

--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH


"Kylee" > wrote in message
...
> Bruce,
>
> MSN still will not take credit for the block on their
> connection. The last representative I spoke with asked
> me WHY I wanted to enable my firewall. When I told her I
> was only trying to do what Microsoft & MSN had told me to
> do in order to protect my computer, she said "Oh..."
> From that point she was very helpful and gave me the
> information I needed to create my own connection and
> enable my firewall.
>
> I'm still bothered by the whole thing, but at least I
> have a little more control over my computer now.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Kylee

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