Re: How to forbid others opening my backup *.bkf file? How to set

[Rob Schneider]

Can't you with Novell's utilties make this file/folder accessible only
to your id? Have you setup private "home" folders for all users? It
would be natural to put it there.

Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:

> Hello
> I know this. The file isn't on an NTFS disk, but in a Novel NetWare network.
> Thanks for your reply anyway.
> "Andrej Budja [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>You cannot set a password for a file in Windows XP. You can protect
>>your files by using the NTFS file system. This file system allows you
>>to define what users can do with your files. In your case you could
>>deny access to all users for this file. This is done by right clicking
>>the file, selecting properties and then going to the Security tab.
>>
>>Andrej
>>
>>On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:29:18 +0400, "Dmitriy Kopnichev"
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello
>>>How to forbid others opening my backup *.bkf file? How to set a password
>
> for
>
>>>opening my backup *.bkf file?
>>
>
>

[Rob Schneider]

I'll put your three points into one to improve the thread of this
discussion:


==============
Thanks for your reply.
The file is in an assigned to me folder. But a Netware network administrator
can open the *.bkf file. How to forbid him opening? How to with Novell's
utilities make this file accessible only to my id?

The Netware network administrator can open the *.bkf file because he knows
my password.

Can a Netware network administrator know my password which was set from my
workstation? Can he open files or folders in my private "home" folder?
================


You've given new information now to say that "others" is the network
admininstrator ... that's different.

I am puzzled why your network admin knows our password. That doesn't
sound secure in the base case. Normall network admins should not know
that. And by policy, they should be prevented from accesing people's
folders. This would be a *policy* enforceable by management. I've seen
companies where network admins get fired if they do this.

It is possible that yokur network admin cannot get into your
workstation, but it all depends on how your organisation setup your
workstation and access to network. It certainly is possible they know
the admin password or otherwise can access.

There is probably nothing preventing network admins, or someone with
admin id/password from seeing anything on your computer. With physical
access to your computer, one can get in.

To hide the backup file, you should consider encrypting it with some
encryption too with a password known only to you. You can buy such a
program, or get free by download downlaod somehere.

That being said the network admin can probaably access the source data,
so what's the point of protecting the backup? For you to consider.

Talk to your network admin and find out from him/her the company
policies, if they can access, and the degree of privacy you actually
have and are allowed.


Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:

> Can a Netware network administrator know my password which was set from my
> workstation? Can he open files or folders in my private "home" folder?
> "Rob Schneider" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Can't you with Novell's utilties make this file/folder accessible only
>>to your id? Have you setup private "home" folders for all users? It
>>would be natural to put it there.
>>
>>Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello
>>>I know this. The file isn't on an NTFS disk, but in a Novel NetWare
>
> network.
>
>>>Thanks for your reply anyway.
>>>"Andrej Budja [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>You cannot set a password for a file in Windows XP. You can protect
>>>>your files by using the NTFS file system. This file system allows you
>>>>to define what users can do with your files. In your case you could
>>>>deny access to all users for this file. This is done by right clicking
>>>>the file, selecting properties and then going to the Security tab.
>>>>
>>>>Andrej
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:29:18 +0400, "Dmitriy Kopnichev"
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello
>>>>>How to forbid others opening my backup *.bkf file? How to set a
>
> password
>
>>>for
>>>
>>>
>>>>>opening my backup *.bkf file?
>>>>
>>>
>
>

[Rob Schneider]

Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:

*snip*

> Where to download free encryption program?
>
*snip*

Sorry, I have no recommendations on that, but I've snipped out the
extraneous stuff on this thread so that others can more easily see this
question and possibly give guidance.

If you have XP Pro with NTFS encryption of files and file systems is
possible.

[Rob Schneider]

Guess that won't work for you, then. I didn't now that NTFS encryptoin
worked like that. Sounds like an interesting research task to figure out
why this would be...I sort of thought a file was a file. Points even
further to the solution for you being some sort of standalone utilty
that encrypts the file for separate storage.

I've done no encryption on XP, and when I've experimented with such
things it was on Linux using standard Linux utilities. Sorry I can't be
more help.

Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:

> Yes. I have XP Pro.
> "Encrypted files can become decrypted if you copy or move the file to a
> volume that is not an NTFS volume" is written in the Help and Support.
> The NetWare volume has NWFS file system.
> Will encrypted in NTFS files be encrypted in NWFS?
> "Rob Schneider" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>>
>>*snip*
>>
>>
>>>Where to download free encryption program?
>>>
>>
>>*snip*
>>
>>Sorry, I have no recommendations on that, but I've snipped out the
>>extraneous stuff on this thread so that others can more easily see this
>>question and possibly give guidance.
>>
>>If you have XP Pro with NTFS encryption of files and file systems is
>>possible.
>>
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