MSN Msnger and Messenger Conflicts

[nooneyouknow]

Using XP Pro SP1 all patched up todate. I had at one point in past
installed MSN Messenger 5, and then uninstalled it, and realized the MSN
version is what is required to actually share/do things utilizing UPnP.

Problem now is the two programs are fighting each other, they keep
alternating between logging and logging off. I am continaully getting the
pop up mesages sayin to effect your login has changed etc.. Never had this
before.

How do I get things to behave again?

-- I did sign up for the beta MSN - I hope the beta will toss out 4.7 and
not need 2 different Messengers - what a pain this is!

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Greetings,

If you're using the latest version of Windows Messenger (4.7.2005), it will automatically try
to connect, even with MSN Messenger 5 installed (this was changed in .2005).

As a fix, you can stop Windows Messenger 4.x from loading at boot-up time (assuming you're
using MSN Messenger 5 exclusively) -- just open it up, click Tools, Options, Preferences tab
and uncheck 'Run this program when Windows starts'. As well, if you're an Outlook Express
user, run this .reg file:
http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_oe.reg

or, you could just remove the automatic login -- click the Start Button, then click the
Control Panel. Then, click User Accounts in the Control Panel. Select your account name,
and then on the left side of the screen, under Related Tasks, click 'Manage my Network
Passwords'. In the window that opens, click the Passport.Net\* (Passport) entry and click
'Remove'. Of course you'll then have to type your login and password everytime you attempt
to sign in.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"nooneyouknow" > wrote in message
. ..
> Using XP Pro SP1 all patched up todate. I had at one point in past
> installed MSN Messenger 5, and then uninstalled it, and realized the MSN
> version is what is required to actually share/do things utilizing UPnP.
>
> Problem now is the two programs are fighting each other, they keep
> alternating between logging and logging off. I am continaully getting the
> pop up mesages sayin to effect your login has changed etc.. Never had this
> before.
>
> How do I get things to behave again?
>
> -- I did sign up for the beta MSN - I hope the beta will toss out 4.7 and
> not need 2 different Messengers - what a pain this is!
>
>
>

[nooneyouknow]

Thanks Jonathan
Humm. I already did that in Messenger the tools/options/prefs and had
deselected everything

I am at the manage my network passswords and I see 2 entries
(Passport)
Passport.Net\* (Passport)

I do use the hotmail one - but the 2nd one is the net "profile" do I need
this??

thanks

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings,
>
> If you're using the latest version of Windows Messenger (4.7.2005), it
will automatically try
> to connect, even with MSN Messenger 5 installed (this was changed in
..2005).
>
> As a fix, you can stop Windows Messenger 4.x from loading at boot-up time
(assuming you're
> using MSN Messenger 5 exclusively) -- just open it up, click Tools,
Options, Preferences tab
> and uncheck 'Run this program when Windows starts'. As well, if you're an
Outlook Express
> user, run this .reg file:
> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_oe.reg
>
> or, you could just remove the automatic login -- click the Start Button,
then click the
> Control Panel. Then, click User Accounts in the Control Panel. Select
your account name,
> and then on the left side of the screen, under Related Tasks, click
'Manage my Network
> Passwords'. In the window that opens, click the Passport.Net\* (Passport)
entry and click
> 'Remove'. Of course you'll then have to type your login and password
everytime you attempt
> to sign in.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> "nooneyouknow" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Using XP Pro SP1 all patched up todate. I had at one point in past
> > installed MSN Messenger 5, and then uninstalled it, and realized the MSN
> > version is what is required to actually share/do things utilizing UPnP.
> >
> > Problem now is the two programs are fighting each other, they keep
> > alternating between logging and logging off. I am continaully getting
the
> > pop up mesages sayin to effect your login has changed etc.. Never had
this
> > before.
> >
> > How do I get things to behave again?
> >
> > -- I did sign up for the beta MSN - I hope the beta will toss out 4.7
and
> > not need 2 different Messengers - what a pain this is!
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi,

The Passport.Net\* (Passport) entry is the automatic login -- if you remove that one, then
you have to enter your login/password when you want to login.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"nooneyouknow" > wrote in message
. ..
> Thanks Jonathan
> Humm. I already did that in Messenger the tools/options/prefs and had
> deselected everything
>
> I am at the manage my network passswords and I see 2 entries
> (Passport)
> Passport.Net\* (Passport)
>
> I do use the hotmail one - but the 2nd one is the net "profile" do I need
> this??
>
> thanks
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Greetings,
> >
> > If you're using the latest version of Windows Messenger (4.7.2005), it
> will automatically try
> > to connect, even with MSN Messenger 5 installed (this was changed in
> .2005).
> >
> > As a fix, you can stop Windows Messenger 4.x from loading at boot-up time
> (assuming you're
> > using MSN Messenger 5 exclusively) -- just open it up, click Tools,
> Options, Preferences tab
> > and uncheck 'Run this program when Windows starts'. As well, if you're an
> Outlook Express
> > user, run this .reg file:
> > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_oe.reg
> >
> > or, you could just remove the automatic login -- click the Start Button,
> then click the
> > Control Panel. Then, click User Accounts in the Control Panel. Select
> your account name,
> > and then on the left side of the screen, under Related Tasks, click
> 'Manage my Network
> > Passwords'. In the window that opens, click the Passport.Net\* (Passport)
> entry and click
> > 'Remove'. Of course you'll then have to type your login and password
> everytime you attempt
> > to sign in.
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> > "nooneyouknow" > wrote in message
> > . ..
> > > Using XP Pro SP1 all patched up todate. I had at one point in past
> > > installed MSN Messenger 5, and then uninstalled it, and realized the MSN
> > > version is what is required to actually share/do things utilizing UPnP.
> > >
> > > Problem now is the two programs are fighting each other, they keep
> > > alternating between logging and logging off. I am continaully getting
> the
> > > pop up mesages sayin to effect your login has changed etc.. Never had
> this
> > > before.
> > >
> > > How do I get things to behave again?
> > >
> > > -- I did sign up for the beta MSN - I hope the beta will toss out 4.7
> and
> > > not need 2 different Messengers - what a pain this is!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

[nooneyouknow]

ok cool got that one.. Any ideas how to make the 2 behave? It saying you
been logged out because you logged in at another location. So I sort of
watch the 2 taking turns logging in and logging out back and forth LOL.

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> The Passport.Net\* (Passport) entry is the automatic login -- if you
remove that one, then
> you have to enter your login/password when you want to login.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
> "nooneyouknow" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Thanks Jonathan
> > Humm. I already did that in Messenger the tools/options/prefs and had
> > deselected everything
> >
> > I am at the manage my network passswords and I see 2 entries
> > (Passport)
> > Passport.Net\* (Passport)
> >
> > I do use the hotmail one - but the 2nd one is the net "profile" do I
need
> > this??
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > If you're using the latest version of Windows Messenger (4.7.2005), it
> > will automatically try
> > > to connect, even with MSN Messenger 5 installed (this was changed in
> > .2005).
> > >
> > > As a fix, you can stop Windows Messenger 4.x from loading at boot-up
time
> > (assuming you're
> > > using MSN Messenger 5 exclusively) -- just open it up, click Tools,
> > Options, Preferences tab
> > > and uncheck 'Run this program when Windows starts'. As well, if
you're an
> > Outlook Express
> > > user, run this .reg file:
> > > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_oe.reg
> > >
> > > or, you could just remove the automatic login -- click the Start
Button,
> > then click the
> > > Control Panel. Then, click User Accounts in the Control Panel.
Select
> > your account name,
> > > and then on the left side of the screen, under Related Tasks, click
> > 'Manage my Network
> > > Passwords'. In the window that opens, click the Passport.Net\*
(Passport)
> > entry and click
> > > 'Remove'. Of course you'll then have to type your login and password
> > everytime you attempt
> > > to sign in.
> > > ____________________________________________
> > > Jonathan Kay
> > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > >
> > > "nooneyouknow" > wrote in message
> > > . ..
> > > > Using XP Pro SP1 all patched up todate. I had at one point in past
> > > > installed MSN Messenger 5, and then uninstalled it, and realized the
MSN
> > > > version is what is required to actually share/do things utilizing
UPnP.
> > > >
> > > > Problem now is the two programs are fighting each other, they keep
> > > > alternating between logging and logging off. I am continaully
getting
> > the
> > > > pop up mesages sayin to effect your login has changed etc.. Never
had
> > this
> > > > before.
> > > >
> > > > How do I get things to behave again?
> > > >
> > > > -- I did sign up for the beta MSN - I hope the beta will toss out
4.7
> > and
> > > > not need 2 different Messengers - what a pain this is!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi,

If you remove the automatic login they'll behave (because they'll both need to have you type
in a login/password to sign in). In 4.7.0106, the automatic login in Windows Messenger was
disabled, so that MSN Messenger 5 would get the "right" to login automatically and Windows
Messenger wouldn't conflict, but this is removed in 4.7.2005.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"nooneyouknow" > wrote in message
. ..
> ok cool got that one.. Any ideas how to make the 2 behave? It saying you
> been logged out because you logged in at another location. So I sort of
> watch the 2 taking turns logging in and logging out back and forth LOL.
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Passport.Net\* (Passport) entry is the automatic login -- if you
> remove that one, then
> > you have to enter your login/password when you want to login.
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> > "nooneyouknow" > wrote in message
> > . ..
> > > Thanks Jonathan
> > > Humm. I already did that in Messenger the tools/options/prefs and had
> > > deselected everything
> > >
> > > I am at the manage my network passswords and I see 2 entries
> > > (Passport)
> > > Passport.Net\* (Passport)
> > >
> > > I do use the hotmail one - but the 2nd one is the net "profile" do I
> need
> > > this??
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Greetings,
> > > >
> > > > If you're using the latest version of Windows Messenger (4.7.2005), it
> > > will automatically try
> > > > to connect, even with MSN Messenger 5 installed (this was changed in
> > > .2005).
> > > >
> > > > As a fix, you can stop Windows Messenger 4.x from loading at boot-up
> time
> > > (assuming you're
> > > > using MSN Messenger 5 exclusively) -- just open it up, click Tools,
> > > Options, Preferences tab
> > > > and uncheck 'Run this program when Windows starts'. As well, if
> you're an
> > > Outlook Express
> > > > user, run this .reg file:
> > > > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_oe.reg
> > > >
> > > > or, you could just remove the automatic login -- click the Start
> Button,
> > > then click the
> > > > Control Panel. Then, click User Accounts in the Control Panel.
> Select
> > > your account name,
> > > > and then on the left side of the screen, under Related Tasks, click
> > > 'Manage my Network
> > > > Passwords'. In the window that opens, click the Passport.Net\*
> (Passport)
> > > entry and click
> > > > 'Remove'. Of course you'll then have to type your login and password
> > > everytime you attempt
> > > > to sign in.
> > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > >
> > > > "nooneyouknow" > wrote in message
> > > > . ..
> > > > > Using XP Pro SP1 all patched up todate. I had at one point in past
> > > > > installed MSN Messenger 5, and then uninstalled it, and realized the
> MSN
> > > > > version is what is required to actually share/do things utilizing
> UPnP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Problem now is the two programs are fighting each other, they keep
> > > > > alternating between logging and logging off. I am continaully
> getting
> > > the
> > > > > pop up mesages sayin to effect your login has changed etc.. Never
> had
> > > this
> > > > > before.
> > > > >
> > > > > How do I get things to behave again?
> > > > >
> > > > > -- I did sign up for the beta MSN - I hope the beta will toss out
> 4.7
> > > and
> > > > > not need 2 different Messengers - what a pain this is!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>