Re: voice, whiteboard, and the likes

[Admiral Picard]

"Admiral Picard" > wrote in message
...
> the most I know is how it is hooked up but here it goes.
>
> Computer from ethernet port to Arescom DSL modem. modem to wall jack, then
> off to msn (qwest) and that is about all I know, but.
> Also my aunt is hooked up the same way.
"except not to qwest"
>
> Admiral Picard
>
> Trekkie :)
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Greetings,
> >
> > A few things could be causing this. Routers, firewalls, ISPs which NAT
> the connection etc.
> > If you respond back with the exact networking configuration (to the best
> of your knowledge
> > anyway), it would be much easier to determine what the problem is.
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> > "Admiral Picard" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > hi
> > >
> > > I can voice chat and whiteboard with a friend which is in town
here
> on a
> > > different system, but I can't do the same thing with an aunt on a
> different
> > > system.
> > > anyone know why?
> > >
> > > Admiral Picard
> > >
> > > trekkie:)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi,

Oh I see -- if it does work, it'll work in the background after installation -- I'm sure you
can walk her through it though =).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Admiral Picard" > wrote in message
...
> you misunderstood I haven't tried it yet but I was wondering if it would
> work if I just used cause my aunt doesn't like installing things.
>
> Admiral Picard
>
> Trekkie :)
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Then I guess that model doesn't have a NAT afterall =).
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> > "Admiral Picard" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > What if I just used it?
> > >
> > > Admiral Picard
> > >
> > > Trekkie :)
> > >
> > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I know some, if not all Arescom DSL modem's have a built-in NAT
> firewall.
> > > What this does is
> > > > supply an internal address to the PC, which allows it to be
> "protected"
> > > from outside
> > > > connections. The only problem with this is the features in Messenger
> > > don't work over NATs
> > > > which don't support Universal Plug and Play (UPnP), which the Arescom
> does
> > > not.
> > > >
> > > > You may have better luck using another application that supports NATs
> > > without UPnP (Yahoo
> > > > Messenger, and others), or telling her to try ENat for Messenger:
> > > > http://www.easyfp.com/msn-messenger-directtalk/
> > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > >
> > > > "Admiral Picard" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > the most I know is how it is hooked up but here it goes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Computer from ethernet port to Arescom DSL modem. modem to wall
> jack,
> > > then
> > > > > of to msn (qwest) and that is about all I know, but.
> > > > > Also my aunt is hooked up the same way.
> > > > >
> > > > > Admiral Picard
> > > > >
> > > > > Trekkie :)
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in
> message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A few things could be causing this. Routers, firewalls, ISPs
> which
> > > NAT
> > > > > the connection etc.
> > > > > > If you respond back with the exact networking configuration (to
> the
> > > best
> > > > > of your knowledge
> > > > > > anyway), it would be much easier to determine what the problem is.
> > > > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Admiral Picard" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > hi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I can voice chat and whiteboard with a friend which is in
> town
> > > here
> > > > > on a
> > > > > > > different system, but I can't do the same thing with an aunt on
> a
> > > > > different
> > > > > > > system.
> > > > > > > anyone know why?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Admiral Picard
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > trekkie:)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Admiral Picard]

but She just doesn't want to install didleysquat. you understand.

Admiral Picard

trekkie :)

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> Oh I see -- if it does work, it'll work in the background after
installation -- I'm sure you
> can walk her through it though =).
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> "Admiral Picard" > wrote in message
> ...
> > you misunderstood I haven't tried it yet but I was wondering if it would
> > work if I just used cause my aunt doesn't like installing things.
> >
> > Admiral Picard
> >
> > Trekkie :)
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Then I guess that model doesn't have a NAT afterall =).
> > > ____________________________________________
> > > Jonathan Kay
> > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > >
> > > "Admiral Picard" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > What if I just used it?
> > > >
> > > > Admiral Picard
> > > >
> > > > Trekkie :)
> > > >
> > > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in
message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I know some, if not all Arescom DSL modem's have a built-in NAT
> > firewall.
> > > > What this does is
> > > > > supply an internal address to the PC, which allows it to be
> > "protected"
> > > > from outside
> > > > > connections. The only problem with this is the features in
Messenger
> > > > don't work over NATs
> > > > > which don't support Universal Plug and Play (UPnP), which the
Arescom
> > does
> > > > not.
> > > > >
> > > > > You may have better luck using another application that supports
NATs
> > > > without UPnP (Yahoo
> > > > > Messenger, and others), or telling her to try ENat for Messenger:
> > > > > http://www.easyfp.com/msn-messenger-directtalk/
> > > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > > >
> > > > > "Admiral Picard" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > the most I know is how it is hooked up but here it goes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Computer from ethernet port to Arescom DSL modem. modem to wall
> > jack,
> > > > then
> > > > > > of to msn (qwest) and that is about all I know, but.
> > > > > > Also my aunt is hooked up the same way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Admiral Picard
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Trekkie :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in
> > message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A few things could be causing this. Routers, firewalls, ISPs
> > which
> > > > NAT
> > > > > > the connection etc.
> > > > > > > If you respond back with the exact networking configuration
(to
> > the
> > > > best
> > > > > > of your knowledge
> > > > > > > anyway), it would be much easier to determine what the problem
is.
> > > > > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Admiral Picard" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > hi
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I can voice chat and whiteboard with a friend which is
in
> > town
> > > > here
> > > > > > on a
> > > > > > > > different system, but I can't do the same thing with an aunt
on
> > a
> > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > system.
> > > > > > > > anyone know why?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Admiral Picard
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > trekkie:)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi,

I understand that, but unfortunately without the exact requirements (non NAT or NAT with
UPnP, etc.), this really can't be avoided. Although we're slowly moving closer to it, these
types of "rich experiences" like voice/video, whiteboard, etc. over many different networking
configurations, modems, etc. don't always work "out of the box".
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Admiral Picard" > wrote in message
...
> but She just doesn't want to install didleysquat. you understand.
>
> Admiral Picard
>
> trekkie :)
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Oh I see -- if it does work, it'll work in the background after
> installation -- I'm sure you
> > can walk her through it though =).
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> > "Admiral Picard" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > you misunderstood I haven't tried it yet but I was wondering if it would
> > > work if I just used cause my aunt doesn't like installing things.
> > >
> > > Admiral Picard
> > >
> > > Trekkie :)
> > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Then I guess that model doesn't have a NAT afterall =).
> > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > >
> > > > "Admiral Picard" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > What if I just used it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Admiral Picard
> > > > >
> > > > > Trekkie :)
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in
> message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know some, if not all Arescom DSL modem's have a built-in NAT
> > > firewall.
> > > > > What this does is
> > > > > > supply an internal address to the PC, which allows it to be
> > > "protected"
> > > > > from outside
> > > > > > connections. The only problem with this is the features in
> Messenger
> > > > > don't work over NATs
> > > > > > which don't support Universal Plug and Play (UPnP), which the
> Arescom
> > > does
> > > > > not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You may have better luck using another application that supports
> NATs
> > > > > without UPnP (Yahoo
> > > > > > Messenger, and others), or telling her to try ENat for Messenger:
> > > > > > http://www.easyfp.com/msn-messenger-directtalk/
> > > > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Admiral Picard" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > the most I know is how it is hooked up but here it goes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Computer from ethernet port to Arescom DSL modem. modem to wall
> > > jack,
> > > > > then
> > > > > > > of to msn (qwest) and that is about all I know, but.
> > > > > > > Also my aunt is hooked up the same way.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Admiral Picard
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Trekkie :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in
> > > message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A few things could be causing this. Routers, firewalls, ISPs
> > > which
> > > > > NAT
> > > > > > > the connection etc.
> > > > > > > > If you respond back with the exact networking configuration
> (to
> > > the
> > > > > best
> > > > > > > of your knowledge
> > > > > > > > anyway), it would be much easier to determine what the problem
> is.
> > > > > > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > > > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > > > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > > > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Admiral Picard" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > hi
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I can voice chat and whiteboard with a friend which is
> in
> > > town
> > > > > here
> > > > > > > on a
> > > > > > > > > different system, but I can't do the same thing with an aunt
> on
> > > a
> > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > > system.
> > > > > > > > > anyone know why?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Admiral Picard
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > trekkie:)
> > > > > > > > >
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