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Chris Waters
March 25th 03, 08:24 PM
I will try that. I'm working on my desktop computer today. By occasional
testing of re-logging into WinXP, I've actually seen Messenger log in twice
on its own....out of about 10 times. So it may be a intermittent problem
somewhere, though mostly chronic. ;^)


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Chris,
>
> Have you tried a reinstall of Windows Messenger? To do so, close down
Messenger (right click
> the messenger icon in the notification area/system tray and click close).
Then click the
> start button, then click Run and type in (copy-paste if you like):
> RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove
> Then click OK.
> Messenger will then be uninstalled. For more detailed instructions and
screenshots, go to,
> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/problem.aspx?ID=7
>
> Reboot, click "Yes" to remove your preferences, then reinstall from
> http://messenger.msn.com/download/download.asp?client=0
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> "Chris Waters" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I finally had a chance to remove all the Passport data. I logged back in
to
> > WinXP, but Messenger didn't automatically log in. I tried logging in to
> > WinXP six times; Messenger didn't automatically log in.
> >
> > I disabled Messenger protection in NAV2003 and logged back in to WinXP
> > again; Messenger still didn't automatically log in. I went one step
farther
> > and disabled NAV2003 Auto-Protect and logged back in to WinXP again;
> > Messenger still didn't automatically log in. I'm seeing the same problem
on
> > my WinXP laptop.
> >
> > Just to be clear: I can manually log in to Messenger in all of these
> > scenarios. Any other ideas?
> >
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Greetings Chris,
> > >
> > > Have you tried removing all the Passport data and then starting again?
To
> > do so, first close
> > > Messenger (right-click its icon, and choose Exit). Then click the
Start
> > Button, then click
> > > the Control Panel. Then, click User Accounts in the Control Panel.
Select
> > the currently
> > > logged in account, and then on the left side of the screen, under
Related
> > Tasks, click
> > > 'Manage my Network Passwords'. Remove everything that has is denoted
by
> > (Passport) --
> > > including Passport.Net\*, by using the 'Remove' button.
> > >
> > > Finally, restart Messenger and see if it then automatically logs in.
> > > ____________________________________________
> > > Jonathan Kay
> > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > >
> > > "Chris Waters" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > MSN Messenger 5.0.0543 is no longer automatically logging on when
users
> > log
> > > > on to WinXP on our PCs. "Run Messenger when Windows Starts" and
"Allow
> > > > automatic sign in when connected to the Internet" is selected. No
errors
> > are
> > > > displayed. Users can thereafter click on the Sign In to .NET button
to
> > > > login, without difficulty. Any ideas? Why isn't it logging on when
users
> > log
> > > > on to WinXP?
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > > --
> > > > To send me email remove NOSPAM from my email address.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Jonathan Kay [MVP]
March 25th 03, 08:46 PM
Hi Chris,

Not really -- what kind of connection are you using anyway?
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Chris Waters" > wrote in message
...
> I removed and re-installed MM5.0. Same problem. Seems like a timing issue to
> me; occasionally it logs in automatically; usually it fails--resulting in my
> having to log in manually.
>
> Is there a way to increase the 'timeout' value so that the sign-in process
> will try just a little longer?
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > Have you tried a reinstall of Windows Messenger? To do so, close down
> Messenger (right click
> > the messenger icon in the notification area/system tray and click close).
> Then click the
> > start button, then click Run and type in (copy-paste if you like):
> > RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove
> > Then click OK.
> > Messenger will then be uninstalled. For more detailed instructions and
> screenshots, go to,
> > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/problem.aspx?ID=7
> >
> > Reboot, click "Yes" to remove your preferences, then reinstall from
> > http://messenger.msn.com/download/download.asp?client=0
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> > "Chris Waters" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I finally had a chance to remove all the Passport data. I logged back in
> to
> > > WinXP, but Messenger didn't automatically log in. I tried logging in to
> > > WinXP six times; Messenger didn't automatically log in.
> > >
> > > I disabled Messenger protection in NAV2003 and logged back in to WinXP
> > > again; Messenger still didn't automatically log in. I went one step
> farther
> > > and disabled NAV2003 Auto-Protect and logged back in to WinXP again;
> > > Messenger still didn't automatically log in. I'm seeing the same problem
> on
> > > my WinXP laptop.
> > >
> > > Just to be clear: I can manually log in to Messenger in all of these
> > > scenarios. Any other ideas?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Greetings Chris,
> > > >
> > > > Have you tried removing all the Passport data and then starting again?
> To
> > > do so, first close
> > > > Messenger (right-click its icon, and choose Exit). Then click the
> Start
> > > Button, then click
> > > > the Control Panel. Then, click User Accounts in the Control Panel.
> Select
> > > the currently
> > > > logged in account, and then on the left side of the screen, under
> Related
> > > Tasks, click
> > > > 'Manage my Network Passwords'. Remove everything that has is denoted
> by
> > > (Passport) --
> > > > including Passport.Net\*, by using the 'Remove' button.
> > > >
> > > > Finally, restart Messenger and see if it then automatically logs in.
> > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > >
> > > > "Chris Waters" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > MSN Messenger 5.0.0543 is no longer automatically logging on when
> users
> > > log
> > > > > on to WinXP on our PCs. "Run Messenger when Windows Starts" and
> "Allow
> > > > > automatic sign in when connected to the Internet" is selected. No
> errors
> > > are
> > > > > displayed. Users can thereafter click on the Sign In to .NET button
> to
> > > > > login, without difficulty. Any ideas? Why isn't it logging on when
> users
> > > log
> > > > > on to WinXP?
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
> > > > > --
> > > > > To send me email remove NOSPAM from my email address.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Chris Waters
March 25th 03, 08:51 PM
DSL; 768/100. And every time the auto login fails, it *always* works if I
manually connect. :^(

Chris

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Chris,
>
> Not really -- what kind of connection are you using anyway?
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> "Chris Waters" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I removed and re-installed MM5.0. Same problem. Seems like a timing
issue to
> > me; occasionally it logs in automatically; usually it fails--resulting
in my
> > having to log in manually.
> >
> > Is there a way to increase the 'timeout' value so that the sign-in
process
> > will try just a little longer?
> >
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Hi Chris,
> > >
> > > Have you tried a reinstall of Windows Messenger? To do so, close down
> > Messenger (right click
> > > the messenger icon in the notification area/system tray and click
close).
> > Then click the
> > > start button, then click Run and type in (copy-paste if you like):
> > > RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection
%windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove
> > > Then click OK.
> > > Messenger will then be uninstalled. For more detailed instructions
and
> > screenshots, go to,
> > > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/problem.aspx?ID=7
> > >
> > > Reboot, click "Yes" to remove your preferences, then reinstall from
> > > http://messenger.msn.com/download/download.asp?client=0
> > > ____________________________________________
> > > Jonathan Kay
> > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > >
> > > "Chris Waters" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I finally had a chance to remove all the Passport data. I logged
back in
> > to
> > > > WinXP, but Messenger didn't automatically log in. I tried logging in
to
> > > > WinXP six times; Messenger didn't automatically log in.
> > > >
> > > > I disabled Messenger protection in NAV2003 and logged back in to
WinXP
> > > > again; Messenger still didn't automatically log in. I went one step
> > farther
> > > > and disabled NAV2003 Auto-Protect and logged back in to WinXP again;
> > > > Messenger still didn't automatically log in. I'm seeing the same
problem
> > on
> > > > my WinXP laptop.
> > > >
> > > > Just to be clear: I can manually log in to Messenger in all of these
> > > > scenarios. Any other ideas?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in
message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Greetings Chris,
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you tried removing all the Passport data and then starting
again?
> > To
> > > > do so, first close
> > > > > Messenger (right-click its icon, and choose Exit). Then click the
> > Start
> > > > Button, then click
> > > > > the Control Panel. Then, click User Accounts in the Control Panel.
> > Select
> > > > the currently
> > > > > logged in account, and then on the left side of the screen, under
> > Related
> > > > Tasks, click
> > > > > 'Manage my Network Passwords'. Remove everything that has is
denoted
> > by
> > > > (Passport) --
> > > > > including Passport.Net\*, by using the 'Remove' button.
> > > > >
> > > > > Finally, restart Messenger and see if it then automatically logs
in.
> > > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > > >
> > > > > "Chris Waters" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > MSN Messenger 5.0.0543 is no longer automatically logging on
when
> > users
> > > > log
> > > > > > on to WinXP on our PCs. "Run Messenger when Windows Starts" and
> > "Allow
> > > > > > automatic sign in when connected to the Internet" is selected.
No
> > errors
> > > > are
> > > > > > displayed. Users can thereafter click on the Sign In to .NET
button
> > to
> > > > > > login, without difficulty. Any ideas? Why isn't it logging on
when
> > users
> > > > log
> > > > > > on to WinXP?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chris
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > To send me email remove NOSPAM from my email address.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Jonathan Kay [MVP]
March 25th 03, 09:00 PM
Hi Chris,

Ah -- well, I admit I'm baffled. I'll let you know if I think of anything else.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Chris Waters" > wrote in message
...
> DSL; 768/100. And every time the auto login fails, it *always* works if I
> manually connect. :^(
>
> Chris
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > Not really -- what kind of connection are you using anyway?
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> > "Chris Waters" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I removed and re-installed MM5.0. Same problem. Seems like a timing
> issue to
> > > me; occasionally it logs in automatically; usually it fails--resulting
> in my
> > > having to log in manually.
> > >
> > > Is there a way to increase the 'timeout' value so that the sign-in
> process
> > > will try just a little longer?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Hi Chris,
> > > >
> > > > Have you tried a reinstall of Windows Messenger? To do so, close down
> > > Messenger (right click
> > > > the messenger icon in the notification area/system tray and click
> close).
> > > Then click the
> > > > start button, then click Run and type in (copy-paste if you like):
> > > > RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection
> %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove
> > > > Then click OK.
> > > > Messenger will then be uninstalled. For more detailed instructions
> and
> > > screenshots, go to,
> > > > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/problem.aspx?ID=7
> > > >
> > > > Reboot, click "Yes" to remove your preferences, then reinstall from
> > > > http://messenger.msn.com/download/download.asp?client=0
> > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > >
> > > > "Chris Waters" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > I finally had a chance to remove all the Passport data. I logged
> back in
> > > to
> > > > > WinXP, but Messenger didn't automatically log in. I tried logging in
> to
> > > > > WinXP six times; Messenger didn't automatically log in.
> > > > >
> > > > > I disabled Messenger protection in NAV2003 and logged back in to
> WinXP
> > > > > again; Messenger still didn't automatically log in. I went one step
> > > farther
> > > > > and disabled NAV2003 Auto-Protect and logged back in to WinXP again;
> > > > > Messenger still didn't automatically log in. I'm seeing the same
> problem
> > > on
> > > > > my WinXP laptop.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just to be clear: I can manually log in to Messenger in all of these
> > > > > scenarios. Any other ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in
> message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Greetings Chris,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have you tried removing all the Passport data and then starting
> again?
> > > To
> > > > > do so, first close
> > > > > > Messenger (right-click its icon, and choose Exit). Then click the
> > > Start
> > > > > Button, then click
> > > > > > the Control Panel. Then, click User Accounts in the Control Panel.
> > > Select
> > > > > the currently
> > > > > > logged in account, and then on the left side of the screen, under
> > > Related
> > > > > Tasks, click
> > > > > > 'Manage my Network Passwords'. Remove everything that has is
> denoted
> > > by
> > > > > (Passport) --
> > > > > > including Passport.Net\*, by using the 'Remove' button.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Finally, restart Messenger and see if it then automatically logs
> in.
> > > > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Chris Waters" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > MSN Messenger 5.0.0543 is no longer automatically logging on
> when
> > > users
> > > > > log
> > > > > > > on to WinXP on our PCs. "Run Messenger when Windows Starts" and
> > > "Allow
> > > > > > > automatic sign in when connected to the Internet" is selected.
> No
> > > errors
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > displayed. Users can thereafter click on the Sign In to .NET
> button
> > > to
> > > > > > > login, without difficulty. Any ideas? Why isn't it logging on
> when
> > > users
> > > > > log
> > > > > > > on to WinXP?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Chris
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > To send me email remove NOSPAM from my email address.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Jonathan Kay [MVP]
March 25th 03, 09:10 PM
Hi Chris,

It happens =).

You're very welcome =).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"Chris Waters" > wrote in message
...
> > Ah -- well, I admit I'm baffled. I'll let you know if I think of anything
> else.
>
> I didn't think it possible. ;^)
>
> BTW, thanks for all your help on this newsgroup! You make it a truly
> worthwhile resource.
>
> Chris
>
>

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